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Thirty Years' War casualties found
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Thread: Thirty Years' War casualties found

  1. #1
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    Default Thirty Years' War casualties found

    Something different for a change...

    Skeletons of Wallenstein mercenaries found

    Stralsund/Northeastern Germany. The scene back in 1628 must have been a dramatic one. Coming out of the Stralsund old town which was surrounded by a ring of fortifications Protestant mercenaries fiercely attacked the empirial troops under Wallenstein. His lansquenets (German term: Landsknechte; literally: "servants of the country" - FTG) -who had withdrawn to a trench just outside of the town- saw only one chance to save their lives. In panic they dropped their weapons and dashed to the rear. Two of them however recognized the threat too late. Still holding out in their trench they were ran over and killed by the mercs.

    Almost 400 years after this surprising attack archaeologists recovered the remains of this bloody scenery. The lansquenets still lying face down are still wearing their leather boots, pieces of cloth cover parts of the bodies. Their weapons are lying unsortedly below and next to them: six spears embattled with iron pikes and maces, six swords and three muskets. The wooden butt ends of the fire arms are labelled with the initials "W.N." and O.N.".

    "A battle scene frozen in time" says Marlies Konze, chief of the archaeological team. "This finding reveals the dramatic of the Thirty Years' War way better than any exhibition." Especially the accumulation of the historical weaponry which was typical for this armed conflict is described as spectacular. Stralsund was one of the hardest-fougt towns during the Thirty Years' War (1618-1648). Wallenstein himself is said to have once mentioned: "Even if this town was fixated to the skies with seven locks and chains I'll still get it down!" For him however the Hanseatic city remained impregnable. In mid 1628 -after a siege of several weeks- Wallenstein's troops were forced to retreat. According to historical sources about 12,000 mercenaries lost their life in course of the battle.
    Thee skeletons of the two lansquenets will now be sketched and documented, afterwards the mortal remains will be examined piece by piece. Close-by two massgraves with 10 and 25 skeletons were found lately. One of them can be related to the Thirty Years' War, the other one seems to be more recent, supposedly from the Great Northern War (1700-1721).

    Text: an-online.de
    Photo: dpa

    Additional info on Albrecht von Wallenstein: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallenstein
    Last edited by flamethrowerguy; 07-13-2010 at 04:28 PM. Reason: larger pic
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    Default Re: Thirty Years' War casualties found

    Wow, that's an impressive find!
    Reminds me of the Japanese/Australian battlefield that was found in New Guinea.
    See if this link works:http://http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/07/lost-wwii-battlefield-found-war-dead-included/

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    It seems odd that these remains have spent the last 400 years less that 1.5 metres below the current surface.
    While they are archaeologically significant, I do hope they are given decent burial soon.
    I've never really studied the late mediaeval era in Europe, there didn't seem to be too much point in it, when the Orient of the same era was (to me) far more interesting.
    However, I admit my views on the epoch are slowly changing.
    A most interesting post, FTG,
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    Default Re: Thirty Years' War casualties found


    A little while ago, there was a story of a body of a WWII pilot found hanging in the trees along the Kokoda trail...turned out to be a bunch of vines!!

    The link below tells the story:


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    Great Britain

    Default Re: Thirty Years' War casualties found

    I remember reading somewhere that 1/3 of Germany's population was killed during the 30 years war. I would recommend 'The Military Revolution: Military Innovation and the Rise of the West, 1500-1800' by Geoffrey Parker, if I remember correctly there's some shocking statistics about population decline in Sweden during Gustavus Adolphus' campaigns. I tried to specialise on the period when I was at uni.
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    The Volunteer's book of facts 1863

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