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Thread: Junkers G.38 - Completed!

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    Default Re: Junkers G.38 - Completed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Librarian View Post
    Not necessarily, my dear Mr. Panzerknacker. After all – just call to your mind all those positive experiences connected with the second prototype of the Focke-Wulf F 19 Ente.
    You did a fine selection of words, because the first proto of the Fw 19 went down with Heinrich Focke inside, mister Heinrich didnt make it as probably knew.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM6wdwnzey0

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    Thank you very much, my dear Mr. Panzerknacker. As you know, carefulness is my middle name.

    Personally, I got some very useful hints about this peculiar design variant from a tall, highly unusual Californian with muttonchops sideburns, who advanced aviation technology seemingly all by himself back there in mid eighties. Once upon a time he had a small building at the Mojave airport and employed three people.

    His airplanes seemed a little bit odd, because the horizontal "tail" was in the front, while the propeller was usually in the rear, leading some guys to wonder which way they fly. They still fly very well, but the most remarkable thing with his airplanes was that they didn't stall. A stall, as you know, occurs when the angle between airflow and the wing becomes so grat that the wing loses lift and stops flying. But Burt (that was his name) successfully explained to me that the horizontal tale in front is functioning as a sort of an auxiliary wing. The canard, mounted at a greater angle on the fuselage than the main wing, does indeed stall and stops lifting. Then it drops a little bit and starts flying again. Meanwhile – and that is the point – the main wing has never approached the angle of attack at which it would stall.

    As far as i remeber, old Joe Chambers, head of the dynamic stability branch at NASA’s Langley Research Center in Hampton (Virginia), was absolutely delighted with that contraption as well.

    Both of them (and Burt's brother ****, a former Air Force fighter pilot, too!) didn't let convention to fuzz up their thinking. Canard equipped airplanes indeed may look a little bit odd to those who’ve made up their minds how an airplane should look. Nevertheless, an old, largely self-taught fool like me still thinks that - aerodynamic excellence aside - those unusual airplanes do have an elegance and a simplicity. Like in those good old days, when airplanes - like beefsteaks ! - were bought by the pound...

    BTW: If you do like some old magazines, here you have a very interesting one:

    http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchi...0-%200005.html

    In the meantime, as always – all the best.
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    Default Re: Junkers G.38 - Completed!

    Wonderful! Well done my friend, it is beautiful.

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    Default Re: Junkers G.38 - Completed!

    What medium do you use?

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    Default Re: Junkers G.38 - Completed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Librarian View Post
    Thank you very much, my dear Mr. Panzerknacker. As you know, carefulness is my middle name.

    Personally, I got some very useful hints about this peculiar design variant from a tall, highly unusual Californian with muttonchops sideburns, who advanced aviation technology seemingly all by himself back there in mid eighties. Once upon a time he had a small building at the Mojave airport and employed three people.

    His airplanes seemed a little bit odd, because the horizontal "tail" was in the front, while the propeller was usually in the rear, leading some guys to wonder which way they fly. They still fly very well, but the most remarkable thing with his airplanes was that they didn't stall. A stall, as you know, occurs when the angle between airflow and the wing becomes so grat that the wing loses lift and stops flying. But Burt (that was his name) successfully explained to me that the horizontal tale in front is functioning as a sort of an auxiliary wing. The canard, mounted at a greater angle on the fuselage than the main wing, does indeed stall and stops lifting. Then it drops a little bit and starts flying again. Meanwhile – and that is the point – the main wing has never approached the angle of attack at which it would stall.

    As far as i remeber, old Joe Chambers, head of the dynamic stability branch at NASA’s Langley Research Center in Hampton (Virginia), was absolutely delighted with that contraption as well.

    Both of them (and Burt's brother ****, a former Air Force fighter pilot, too!) didn't let convention to fuzz up their thinking. Canard equipped airplanes indeed may look a little bit odd to those who’ve made up their minds how an airplane should look. Nevertheless, an old, largely self-taught fool like me still thinks that - aerodynamic excellence aside - those unusual airplanes do have an elegance and a simplicity. Like in those good old days, when airplanes - like beefsteaks ! - were bought by the pound...

    BTW: If you do like some old magazines, here you have a very interesting one:

    http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchi...0-%200005.html

    In the meantime, as always – all the best.
    I do miss Librarian.

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