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View Poll Results: Which rifle is the best

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  • Springfield M1903A3

    18 35.29%
  • Kar98K

    28 54.90%
  • Mosin Nogant 1930

    5 9.80%
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    Quote Originally Posted by forager View Post
    Define versatile.
    '03s were quite commonly seen as sporters, even through the 60s.

    The 03A3 has the best sights of the 3.
    There are a boat load more parts,literature and experience using Peter/Paul Mauser actions for custom guns than any other. Mauser was selling top grade hunting rifles in the 1920`s competing against H&H, Purdey, etc. The Springfield was a modified Mauser action that the US government paid royalties to Mauser for the right to manufacture until 1909 I think. Read your history! There are more Mauser action rifles in the world than any other. Just about every caliber one can think off has been either factory offered or retrofitted onto a Mauser action. The `50`s-`60`s saw more sporterizing than any other era, of course Springfields were present but not nearly as desired as a Mauser action. Again do your homework. You`ll be surprised.

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    Beyond being a firearm, Mauser had little in common with Purdy, or H&H, Manton etc. Mauser's offerings were more aligned with the firearms manufactured in Belgium. Although this is just my opinion.

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    Isn't it the mosin-nagant 1890?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der Toten Kaiser View Post
    Isn't it the mosin-nagant 1890?
    1891, the 1930 may be a typo,perhaps meant to read 91/30 which is a later modification to the 1891. The Mosin-Nagant was produced in many variations, and by a few different Countries.
    Last edited by tankgeezer; 07-09-2011 at 01:27 PM.

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    Oh, thanks

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    I have read a lot of history and owned several examples of each. Plus many others.

    One reason for the use of mausers as sporters was the vast numbers in many configurations manufactured and available on the civilian market.
    Many many more than Springfields. Hence more to modify.
    I repeat that in military configuratin, the later 03s with peep sights were much more accurate. Same same the later Enfields.
    A good many 03s met the customisers ax and I see little difference in quality or performance.
    MNs are a bit up the chain from stone axes, but nothing I'd want as a personal weapon.
    I realise 03s are not german, and therefore not holy relics, but I'd use one if I had to.

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    Damn, I think I commited a mistake in this poll...

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    Der Toten Kaiser

    It is a rather limited poll anyway, just 3 rifles from the dozens used by the main combatants. No clarification either as to why and where each would be best, ie accuracy, reliability, ease of use etc
    IN the days of lace-ruffles, perukes and brocade
    Brown Bess was a partner whom none could despise
    An out-spoken, flinty-lipped, brazen-faced jade,
    With a habit of looking men straight in the eyes
    At Blenheim and Ramillies fops would confess
    They were pierced to the heart by the charms of Brown Bess.

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    yeah...

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    Default Re: Which rifle is the best of these three

    Quote Originally Posted by forager View Post
    I have read a lot of history and owned several examples of each. Plus many others.

    One reason for the use of mausers as sporters was the vast numbers in many configurations manufactured and available on the civilian market.
    Many many more than Springfields. Hence more to modify.
    I repeat that in military configuratin, the later 03s with peep sights were much more accurate. Same same the later Enfields.
    A good many 03s met the customisers ax and I see little difference in quality or performance.
    MNs are a bit up the chain from stone axes, but nothing I'd want as a personal weapon.
    I realise 03s are not german, and therefore not holy relics, but I'd use one if I had to.
    Originally Posted by forager
    Define versatile.
    '03s were quite commonly seen as sporters, even through the 60s.

    The 03A3 has the best sights of the 3.

    Listen pal not trying to get into a fight here but you asked the question "define versatile".

    I define versatile as Mauser over `03 hands down.
    Live with it.

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    This is the book definition of versatile. "adjective. Competent in many things; able to turn easily from one subject or occupation to another" I have in my time had many of each of the '03, and 98K, and tested each one before they were put on the shelf of my shop. They are in most ways neck, and neck. though I did find the '03 to be more inclined to make a tighter group than the 98, that quality being even more pronounced at greater ranges (more than 300 yds) This is for the as issued military rifle. Either action would make a good foundation for an effective sporting rifle, this depends of course on the competency of those who did the conversion work.

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    Was there ever any question? K98!!

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    Although not on the list, as a battle rifle that can be used for sniping as well I would still favour the No4 Lee Enfield.

    Rapid fire with a very smooth and quick to operate bolt, 10 round magazine charger loaded, reasonably accurate as standard with selected ones making very good snipers rifles.
    IN the days of lace-ruffles, perukes and brocade
    Brown Bess was a partner whom none could despise
    An out-spoken, flinty-lipped, brazen-faced jade,
    With a habit of looking men straight in the eyes
    At Blenheim and Ramillies fops would confess
    They were pierced to the heart by the charms of Brown Bess.

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    Default Re: Which rifle is the best of these three

    Think outside the box.


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