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    Re: The Budapest Siege

    Hm,hmm,hmm... I can tell you, Chevan, but then I'll have to kill you, ya know... Duty is duty...
    Strictly speaking, these are not NKVD reports, but reports of Military Justice departments, i.e....
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    From the report of Military tribunal of the 3nd Ukrainian front for the period February and March 1945.
    69 sentences of which 2 (app. 3%) are for rape and murder of Hungarian civilians.

    Examples:...
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    From the report of Military tribunal of the 3nd Ukrainian front for February 1945.
    27 sentences of which 4 (app. 15%) are for rape. Sentences: 1 - 7 years; 1 - 8 years; 2 - 10 years of correctional...
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    Imi, here is a gift for you.

    From the report of Military tribunal of the 2nd Ukrainian front for the period 20 Jan - 1 Feb 1945.
    Out of 48 cases 4 (app. 8%) cover rape and violence against...
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    Re: The Budapest Siege

    Well, some of them did indeed drink perfumes and other funny smelling liquids.
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    So now we will get some references of the quotes you posted, right?
    I mean those "eyewitnesses","commanders", "students" and even a "private detective" - do they at least have names and age?
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    IMI, seriously, what on Earth are you talking about!?!?
    I only asked for the source of your information. Does that sound unreasonable to you?
    If you have problem with such question, then maybe you...
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    Because these statements a made like quotes from someone/somewhere, but no information is provided for the origin.
    It is impossible to think that IMI knows them from his own experience either. I...
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    Re: The Budapest Siege

    "Trusted" by whom?
    Where do these stories come from? Why are you so sure they are not made up?

    Then post exactly what you have been personally told by your relatives, instead of anonymous fables.
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    Common, imi! That is not good enough. Every story has a source. And even then they require scrutiny.
    But you posted tons of completely anonimous and faceless statements with no backing info what so...
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    I am talking of rear troops (тыловые соединения) which were not involved directly in combat. And that is what they also mean here by saying that combat troops were no bad, but the rear troops were...
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    @imi,

    You have quoted lots of accounts and statements.
    Unfortunately none of them are referenced! How come?
    Or did I miss something?
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    Re: The Budapest Siege

    But don't forget that all Soviet Commisars were world champions in both sprint and marathon running. So they could easily outrun any front-line soldier. In fact some Commissars had to fill their...
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    Stop it! If you keep doing it I will be fired from my job for laughing loudly and disturbing the office... Have mercy!
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    I salyte you, Andrey!!! :)
    The aforementioned could happen during the offensives when troups woupd swiftly move across. So it could be that on the 2nd or 3rd day the second echelon or rear areas...
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    Ohh, for God's sake! Not again!!!
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    Re: The Budapest Siege

    yes, I have heard it many times. There is something there that doesn't click though.
    F.ex allegedly the Soviet atrocities on German soil begun immidiately after entering (remember Nemmersdorf case)....
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