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    mkenny, I value anyone's posts on this subject...

    mkenny, I value anyone's posts on this subject and let me assure you, your contributions are welcome.

    Let me also assure you this thread is not about proving Nazi uber myths, not by any stretch....
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    Another problem with trying to clear up the...

    Another problem with trying to clear up the disputed claims of the German pilots is the loss/destruction of the entire Generalquartiemeister claims list for 1944.

    Without this record not one kill...
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    Thanks Panzerknacker, that is the correct...

    Thanks Panzerknacker, that is the correct incident. Unfortunately a lot of my research material is buried at the moment, so I can't draw on info very quickly.

    Regards digger.
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    A lot of people still dispute the figure of 307...

    A lot of people still dispute the figure of 307 victories and indeed the claims of most of the experten.

    Hartman was once challenged by a pilot from another unit over his claims and was offered to...
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    Luftwaffe Kill Claims

    So were the fantastic kill claims by the likes of Hartman, Barkhorn, Rall and the other high scoring Experten of the luftwaffe, indeed genuine? At some time or other there have been serious...
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