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Panzerknacker
02-23-2009, 06:24 AM
Topic locked.
PK, when talking about a subject you know nothing about I **STRONGLY** suggest you stop acting like a cretin and listen to people who actually know what they're talking about.


What is problem with PDF lately ? What is the reason to lock the mines topic ?

Where is the violence? were are the insults in that topic ? if you think i dont now nothing about...well...then just let the people who REALLY knows educate me.

I dont care for a milisecond if you think I am a cretin wathever that word means, I think is a lot more "cretin" to act as a pocket dictator and to lock a topic simply because is a bit of irony there, or maybe because you had a discussion with your girlfriend and you were in bad mood, after more than 5000 post you should know my stile of posting.

Calling Firefly here.

Rising Sun*
02-23-2009, 07:23 AM
What is problem with PDF lately ? What is the reason to lock the mines topic ?

Where is the violence? were are the insults in that topic ? if you think i dont now nothing about...well...then just let the people who REALLY knows educate me.

I dont care for a milisecond if you think I am a cretin wathever that word means, I think is a lot more "cretin" to act as a pocket dictator and to lock a topic simply because is a bit of irony there, or maybe because you had a discussion with your girlfriend and you were in bad mood, after more than 5000 post you should know my stile of posting.

Calling Firefly here.

Do you realise that you are now making exactly the same sort of complaint that many members made against you when you were a mod?

Have you forgotten how prissy you could be about members using '****' and other forms of vulgarity, about which when used judiciously for emphasis I couldn't give a ****?

I can understand your frustration in having a thread you were interested in closed, but it's rather less bad and erratic than some of the rest of us experienced under your reign as a mod.

What it comes down to is: Do you think that current mods should treat you the same as you treated other members when you were a mod, particularly when you have repeatedly complained about the standard of modding having fallen since your resignation, or do you think that mods should give you special treatment which they don't give to other members?

herman2
02-23-2009, 07:31 AM
WOW!....I came to work tired with a hangover but this is interesting!!Shazam!

Rising Sun*
02-23-2009, 07:51 AM
WOW!....I came to work tired with a hangover but this is interesting!!Shazam!

Gomer, you have gone up immeasurably in my estimation upon learning that you are drinker, and one who can get a hangover.

Keep up the good work! ;) :D

navyson
02-23-2009, 07:59 AM
Shazam!
Wow...that brings back memories.;) Hadn't heard that one in while!

Digger
02-23-2009, 11:58 AM
Wow...that brings back memories.;) Hadn't heard that one in while!

Worse still I was channel surfing yesterday and up popped Gomer Pyle USMC. What a load of corn;)

digger

herman2
02-23-2009, 12:07 PM
Worse still I was channel surfing yesterday and up popped Gomer Pyle USMC. What a load of corn;)

digger

Long Live Gomer Pyle!!!!yeaaaaa!!!!!

3220

pdf27
02-23-2009, 12:36 PM
Well, PK, since you're so upset about it I've hit the "Report" button on this thread to ensure Firefly is emailed your concerns. Needless to say, I personally think they're totally groundless.

Panzerknacker
02-23-2009, 03:27 PM
Do you realise that you are now making exactly the same sort of complaint that many members made against you when you were a mod?

Have you forgotten how prissy you could be about members using '****' and other forms of vulgarity, about which when used judiciously for emphasis I couldn't give a ****?

Perharps I am suffereing the same injustices that allegedly I commited agaist those members ( I dont remeber any but could be)

And my prissiness doesnt liked anybody, you included, why you worry about it now ? You should rejoice that I joined the club.

Dont come to me with vulgarity lessons, dont fit you well.



What it comes down to is: Do you think that current mods should treat you the same as you treated other members when you were a mod, particularly when you have repeatedly complained about the standard of modding having fallen since your resignation, or do you think that mods should give you special treatment which they don't give to other members?

The standar of moderation are very poor and Pdf 27 is the worst sad exponent of that, never, never, never ever I saw in any forum before a Moderator changing the name of a topic and encouraging the banter/trolling. That is a good sample of "erratic modding".

I never made a topic called "Falklands malvinas Flagging Match" my topic name a was "War crimes in Malvinas ?", the other was Pdf acting, in my view that attitute is such low that honestly I dont have enough english language knowledge to really express my feelings, is a coward, moronic, uninteligible, stupid, disturbing attitude, there is no explanation and there is no justification for that in the same way there is no justification for locking the Mines topic.



Well, PK, since you're so upset about it I've hit the "Report" button on this thread to ensure Firefly is emailed your concerns.
Needless to say, I personally think they're totally groundless.


Needless to say I already dont give a damn about any of your opinions but your continue sabotaging of my topics and the forum is really annoying.

I you are so messed up that cannont make your work as Moderator properly, well , take a couple of valiums and rest for 2 months, let other, less paranoic persons do the job.

Rising Sun*
02-24-2009, 05:16 AM
Dont come to me with vulgarity lessons, dont fit you well.

I wasn't criticising you for using vulgarity.

I was merely pointing out the inconsistency in you as a mod censoring vulgarity but since then using it when it suits you.

As for me, I haven't changed a ****ing bit in my attitude to vulgarity.


The standar of moderation are very poor and Pdf 27 is the worst sad exponent of that,

It appears that pdf27 has risen considerably in your estimation. You used to accord that honour to Firefly.

Can we take it that this constitutes your endorsement of pdf27 as suitable for appointment as SuperMod?


never, never, never ever I saw in any forum before a Moderator changing the name of a topic

You need to visit more forums.

It's rather better than your mod practice of deleting posts and threads which offended your unique and erratic standards.

Anyway, I don't think your original thread title Compulsive topic locking...**** !! accurately expresses your intent and the content of this thread, so I've taken the liberty of renaming it Compulsive bitching by failed mod ... ****!!


...and encouraging the banter

You need to visit more forums. And grasp that a bit of fun and diversion adds to the life of a forum, such as with pictures of soccer lovelies and Argentinian barbeques which you happily posted and which were well received.



and encouraging the ...trolling.

That is demonstrably dishonest, as well as being just plain ****ing stupid. As you well know, no current moderators tolerate trolls.

You might do well to recognise that trolling takes many forms.



That is a good sample of "erratic modding".

No, it is just a good sample of your erratic thoughts on modding that doesn't agree with your uniquely erratic modding standards.


I never made a topic called "Falklands malvinas Flagging Match" my topic name a was "War crimes in Malvinas ?", the other was Pdf acting, in my view that attitute is such low that honestly I dont have enough english language knowledge to really express my feelings, is a coward, moronic, uninteligible, stupid, disturbing attitude, there is no explanation and there is no justification for that in the same way there is no justification for locking the Mines topic.

There is considerably more justification for pdf27's actions than there was for many of yours as a mod, and much more consistency in his actions than yours as a mod.

This field, being your contempt for all mods other than yourself, has been thoroughly ploughed over again and again since you resigned as a mod until it is less than dust. The field is barren. There is nothing new left to reveal by ploughing it again.

You've had a dream run criticising mods for all the faults you imagine they have, but the difference is that the mods under Firefly are a much more tolerant lot than you were in your intermittently dictatorial and erratic reign. You would have banned any member who made about you even a small fraction of the contemptuous comments you have made about mods since you resigned. And there are bugger-all boards that would have tolerated your childish and spiteful bullshit in that area. You would have been banned for life after your first whinge on most of them.

It is only the tolerant spirit under Firefly, which is the opposite of your dictatorial modding approach, which has allowed you to continue on this board, which tolerance and goodwill you have repaid by shitting on the moderation policy which allows you to continue to post. It just makes you look like a self-centred, arrogant, spiteful, and childish **** who routinely bites the hand which feeds it.

If you are in any doubt about how isolated you are in your deluded belief that you are God's gift to the board and modding and that anyone else shares your views, think back on how your great post-resignation revolution against the new regime failed to attract any followers.

As has been said to you several times before, although not as bluntly, accept the way things are or **** off.


Needless to say I already dont give a damn about any of your opinions but your continue sabotaging of my topics and the forum is really annoying.

As you repeatedly express contempt for other members' opinions which disagree with yours, even when they know what they're talking about and you don't, and as you find the forum really annoying, see my preceding sentence for guidance on the best way for you to deal with it.


I you are so messed up that cannont make your work as Moderator properly, well , take a couple of valiums and rest for 2 months, let other, less paranoic persons do the job.

That would be a good prescription for you.


Now, and you may find this strange in view of my strong comments above which are merely responding to your strong comments, as has been said on many other occasions I and others value your knowledge when you post on matters where you have great knowledge and we enjoy your banter and fun on off topic matters, and we'd like to see you continue to contribute.

But your unfounded and poisonous comments about moderators' standards and performance have more than run their course, so it's time to stop making a **** of yourself by repeating them to no purpose.

If you want to stay here, accept things as they are and stop whingeing about things you can't change, and which are acceptable to every member other than you.

To avoid any misunderstanding due to your claimed difficulties with English: The forum isn't going to change to meet your requirements so, if you're not happy with the way the forum is run, **** off.

Nickdfresh
02-24-2009, 07:31 AM
Do you realise that you are now making exactly the same sort of complaint that many members made against you when you were a mod?

Have you forgotten how prissy you could be about members using '****' and other forms of vulgarity, about which when used judiciously for emphasis I couldn't give a ****?

I can understand your frustration in having a thread you were interested in closed, but it's rather less bad and erratic than some of the rest of us experienced under your reign as a mod.

What it comes down to is: Do you think that current mods should treat you the same as you treated other members when you were a mod, particularly when you have repeatedly complained about the standard of modding having fallen since your resignation, or do you think that mods should give you special treatment which they don't give to other members?

I agree with these sentiments totally. While it can be frustrating to have a thread closed, it also seems some make continual series of sarcastic comments designed more for irritating and thread-jacking, which after review of that thread, you are surely guilty of (PK). You seemed far less interested in learning and more interested in carrying on the mantle of a stupid War that's been over for 27 years now..

If people started questioning your knowledge of all things panzer, you would have been severally irritated too, and most certainly would have either banned the poster or at least deleted the equivalent posts...

Panzerknacker
02-24-2009, 08:51 AM
Anyway, I don't think your original thread title Compulsive topic locking...**** !! accurately expresses your intent and the content of this thread, so I've taken the liberty of renaming it Compulsive bitching by failed mod ... ****!!



Ah...is do it again. :rolleyes:


You need to visit more forums. And grasp that a bit of fun and diversion adds to the life of a forum, such as with pictures of soccer lovelies and Argentinian barbeques which you happily posted and which were well received.

My gallery is a topic that does not pretend to be serious or extremely accurate, that is why is in off-topic. All the topics in the F/M area are extremely serious, at list to me.



If you want to stay here, accept things as they are and stop whingeing about things you can't change, and which are acceptable to every member other than you.

To avoid any misunderstanding due to your claimed difficulties with English: The forum isn't going to change to meet your requirements so, if you're not happy with the way the forum is run, **** off.



I never, ever going to accept topic locked for nothing, or somebody calling me cretin for free just because I used irony, never, ever, ever.
If somebody doesnt like this kind of comments, wel...they should think twice before moddind bad.

I could be the nicest person of earth or the nastiest, that depend on the amount of respect I receive.

An by the way I have no intentions to leave the forum whatsoever, the wrong doers must leave, not me. If you really want that I leave ( honestly I dont think you really want :rolleyes: ) you should ban me for good.



If people started questioning your knowledge of all things panzer, you would have been severally irritated too, and most certainly would have either banned the poster or at least deleted the equivalent posts...


In this case other closed the topic in wich some member questioned my knowledge...logic on that..where is it?

Egorka
02-24-2009, 12:10 PM
Guys, I you went a bit too far with mobing Panzeknacker.
We are all boys here and it's OK to be a bit spiky and hooliganish, but this is way too much.

Nickdfresh
02-24-2009, 12:24 PM
And he's a Lieutenant Colonel? How'd that happen? He's nearly ready to take over the gov't I suppose...:D

herman2
02-24-2009, 12:27 PM
All I can say is that Panze has got a lot of Balls!..We need good men like Him. Without Panze, the cat fights on this Forim would be mediocrae. Panze Rules!

Egorka
02-24-2009, 01:52 PM
And he's a Lieutenant Colonel? How'd that happen? He's nearly ready to take over the gov't I suppose...:D
I surrender: That was a good one! :mrgreen:

Firefly
02-25-2009, 03:40 AM
Blah blah blah blah............

All Mods from UK = Very Bad. All Mods from S America = Excellent. Heard it all before.

All of the Mods we have right now are the best team this site has had and they have the full backing of the Supermods.

Cheers.

herman2
02-25-2009, 07:39 AM
....and they have the full backing from their fans....ME!...God Bless Our Mods!:D

Firefly
02-25-2009, 04:05 PM
....and they have the full backing from their fans....ME!...God Bless Our Mods!:D

No offence meant here Herman, but this sucking up to Mods lark is getting boring, be yourself for a wee while.

Churchill
02-25-2009, 06:14 PM
No offence meant here Herman, but this sucking up to Mods lark is getting boring, be yourself for a wee while.

I agree with the above.


All I can say is that Panze has got a lot of Balls!..We need good men like Him. Without Panze, the cat fights on this Forim would be mediocrae. Panze Rules!

That was unneeded, IMO.

Major Walter Schmidt
02-25-2009, 06:29 PM
I second what Firefly says.

Churchill
02-25-2009, 06:55 PM
You mean triple right?

RifleMan20
02-25-2009, 10:43 PM
As Churchill and Major, I agree with Firefly, don't suck up. For the many years of have been on this site, I never meant to suck up, its no fun especially when people get pissy and think your trolling (not pointing out anyone, not even saying it even happened to me) but do what you want, all I was doing was expressing my opinion like PK here, this is a free (as in rights) site afterall, right. And on the issue my dear PK, mods will be mods and if they think its not worth being on the site, its not going to.

tankgeezer
02-26-2009, 12:02 AM
If you want him to take you seriously, you might not want to call him Panze.

Chevan
02-26-2009, 12:19 AM
Do you realise that you are now making exactly the same sort of complaint that many members made against you when you were a mod?

Have you forgotten how prissy you could be about members using '****' and other forms of vulgarity, about which when used judiciously for emphasis I couldn't give a ****?

That's holy true.

Chevan
02-26-2009, 12:24 AM
All Mods from UK = Very Bad. All Mods from S America = Excellent. Heard it all before.
.
All mods from UK are tolerant, but that one from S.America WAS really sick:)
Hey , lets' demote the Panzerknacker to PanzerGrenadire:mrgreen:

Rising Sun*
02-26-2009, 04:10 AM
All I can say is that Panze has got a lot of Balls!..We need good men like Him. Without Panze, the cat fights on this Forim would be mediocrae. Panze Rules!

Under current circumstances you'd be well advised not to pursue that line.

There is a difference between cat fights and maintaining forum discipline.

This is not a cat fight.

Rising Sun*
02-26-2009, 05:12 AM
Ah...is do it again. :rolleyes:

It was done for a purpose.

And the purpose was to remind you that the current mods, not you, have control of the board and that they are applying the current standards and policies of the board, and that your blinkered personal opinions about how the board should be run are irrelevant and have no effect on how it is, and will be, run.

Your past and considerable service as a mod is acknowledged and the forum is grateful for it, but that does not give you the right to spit poison at the mods and their modding just because you disagree with them or it.

You are a long-serving and valued member. But no member is so valuable that he or she is entitled to persist with publicly expressed contempt for the mods who, as you did in your time, keep this board functioning.

As I said before, you wouldn't have tolerated a fraction of what you have been doing, and have been doing ever since you quit as a mod. It is long past time to accept that things have changed and that your opinions on mods and modding are irrelevant and, usually, sufficiently offensively expressed to earn you some penalties.

If the current mods applied penalties as you did, you would have been banned a few days after you quit. You survived largely as an acknowledgement of your prior service to the board.

But, as far as I am concerned, you have long since exhausted that goodwill and tolerance and there is no reason to treat you any differently to any other member who engages in obnoxious or disruptive behaviour.


I could be the nicest person of earth or the nastiest, that depend on the amount of respect I receive.

Respect is earned, and lost, by conduct.

Respect is also a mutual exercise.

You have shat on the mods from the moment you quit as a mod. What makes you think that people for whom you continually express contempt, purely because they do not share your unique and erratic views of proper modding, should respect you?


An by the way I have no intentions to leave the forum whatsoever, the wrong doers must leave, not me.

That is just another example of your absurd conceit and contempt for everyone who does not agree with you, and especially with your somewhat extreme or ill-founded opinions on some issues, and of your paranoid belief that you are always the victim rather than someone who cannot accept the consequences his actions produce.

I don't know whether this is because of your immaturity, Latino machismo, or a mental disorder, or two or more of the above, but you need to grow up and recognise that, contrary to your often expressed contempt for others' opinions, other people may know as much or more than you and that dismissing their opinions, and them, with contempt is hardly likely to earn their respect for you or your opinions.



If you really want that I leave ( honestly I dont think you really want :rolleyes: )

No, I don't want you to leave, if you drop a small part of your conduct on the board.

I don't think anyone else wants you to leave, as long as you drop your occasional conceit, arrogance, contempt for anyone whose opinions differ from yours, and your refusal to accept that the current mods control the board and that, as you insisted upon when you were a mod, you should comply with their directions.

The question is not whether or not anyone wants you to leave, but why do you stay when you are so deeply unhappy here?

Panzerknacker
02-26-2009, 05:02 PM
All Mods from UK = Very Bad. All Mods from S America = Excellent. Heard it all before.



I can add: The F/M section being moderate only by british mods is...suspicious.

You got a german and a australian as Mods ( even the australian is not the brightest, this topic name is a sad remainder of that) you should use them in that place.



All I can say is that Panze has got a lot of Balls!..We need good men like Him. Without Panze, the cat fights on this Forim would be mediocrae. Panze Rules!


I will love to think that this is something more masculine than a catfight.

pdf27
02-26-2009, 05:48 PM
I can add: The F/M section being moderate only by british mods is...suspicious.
All modding in that section is reviewed by the other mods, and in the case of the "MINES!!!!!!!!!" topic has been gone over again by Firefly. The fact that I was the first to lock several topics is neither here nor there - the others read all of them, as evinced by their comments in the War Room thread dedicated to this very thread.


You got a german and a australian as Mods ( even the australian is not the brightest, this topic name is a sad remainder of that) you should use them in that place.
You were warned about two posts ago about slagging off the moderators. And now you go and do so again. Looking to get banned to feed your martyr complex?
Also, we are not going to play your game of saying which mods are allowed to moderate where. You will NOT be allowed to dictate who can moderate what forum in the name of "fairness". Moderators are appointed to cover the whole site, and serve for as long as the Chief Moderator (Firefly) and Site Admin (Procyon) are happy with the situation. All moderators will continue to moderate the entire site.

Schuultz
02-26-2009, 06:25 PM
I have to admit, I never experienced Panzerknackers alleged 'Terror-Regime', but I do think some of you are a bit tough on him.

You should try to avoid letting yourselves get dragged down into a yelling match.

And it is true, Panzerknacker does like to provoke at times, but I think pretty much everyone has done that at least a couple of times, myself included. That shouldn't mean that you should further provoke him by changing his threat titles...

Rising Sun*
02-26-2009, 06:40 PM
I have to admit, I never experienced Panzerknackers alleged 'Terror-Regime', but I do think some of you are a bit tough on him.

If the mods were tough on him, and even a tenth as tough as he was on other members when he was a mod, he would have been banned from the board long before you joined.

What you are witnessing is the culmination of a long period of PK behaving as the self-appointed prima donna critic of the current mods, who are thoroughly sick of his baseless and tediously repetitive attacks.

The essence of PK's position is that the current mods, and in particular the Supermod, are all shit because they don't apply PK's tough, and erratic, standards and delete threads and ban members on a whim but instead follow a much more tolerant approach, which includes allowing him to behave as he has, which would not be tolerated on most boards. I wouldn't bet on it being tolerated here much longer.

Chevan
02-27-2009, 01:39 AM
I have to admit, I never experienced Panzerknackers alleged 'Terror-Regime', but I do think some of you are a bit tough on him.

You lacky man , you have never faced the latinos dictatorship on your skin:)



And it is true, Panzerknacker does like to provoke at times, but I think pretty much everyone has done that at least a couple of times, myself included. That shouldn't mean that you should further provoke him by changing his threat titles...
The one hand is to provoke member to discussion( i do use it sometimes), the other hand - is to insult the somebodys person( that PK constantly like to do, kinda his foolish "mod's characteristic" of RS or pdf).
The discipline in the forum is the necessary for everybody.

Egorka
02-27-2009, 01:45 AM
... the other hand - is to insult the somebodys person...
Panzerknacker called me a communist! Repeatedly! :cry:

Bad! Bad! Very bad! Very-very-very bad Panzercracker!

Rising Sun*
02-27-2009, 05:29 AM
Panzerknacker called me a communist! Repeatedly! :cry:

At least he didn't accuse you of being a poofter as well, unlike some of the Brits who got up his arse.

Ahh! Now I see why he made those accusations. ;)

As for accusing you of being a communist, I haven't worked that out yet, apart from the assumption that all Russians are communists. Which, given the feral capitalism which has exploded in Russia over the past couple of decades, seems hard to believe.

Chevan
02-27-2009, 05:59 AM
Panzerknacker called me a communist! Repeatedly! :cry:
!
Mate , me is worse.
He called me "anti-semite":mrgreen:

Chevan
02-27-2009, 06:03 AM
As for accusing you of being a communist, I haven't worked that out yet, apart from the assumption that all Russians are communists. Which, given the feral capitalism which has exploded in Russia over the past couple of decades, seems hard to believe.
If you will ONCE to see such a Wild capitalims in Australia - i promise , you will be the BEST communist the Australia ever has seen.:)

Rising Sun*
02-27-2009, 06:35 AM
If you will ONCE to see such a Wild capitalims in Australia - i promise , you will be the BEST communist the Australia ever has seen.:)

Actually, I was a bit of a commo here a long time ago.

I used to vote for the communists (Peking or Moscow line, or both, even though they were each much more interested in destroying the other lot than the capitalists) back in the 1970s and 1980s.

I did this mainly to piss off the major capitalist and social democrat parties because if the communists got just one extra vote in some electorates it could increase their vote by about 10% and the percentage made it look like the communist vote was really growing. :D

Mate, my socialist leanings have been hugely reinforced by the current "global financial crisis" which has been caused by privatising capitalist profit but, oddly enough, the solution to which apparently is to socialise capitalist losses. :rolleyes:

In a system run by this sort of grasping bastards, not unlike the US car company bosses flying in private jets to Washington to beg for public money to save their corporations, where the modern capitalists (being the highly paid workers called senior executives who manipulate corporations for their own benefit without actually putting a dollar of their own money at risk):


Malcolm Turnbull brands Pacific Brands pay move 'poor'
February 27, 2009

Article from: Australian Associated Press

A "POOR" decision by Pacific Brands' board members to give themselves a pay rise before sacking 1850 workers shows shareholders should be given more say about executive salaries, Federal Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull says.

The company's annual report shows the total remuneration for all 13 directors in 2007/08 was $15.459 million, including a $3.448 million retirement package for the outgoing CEO Paul Moore, who left at the end of December 2007.

Total remuneration for all 13 directors in 2006/07 was $7.084 million, it said.

Speaking at Cessnock in the NSW Hunter Valley, where 83 workers are being sacked from the Pacific Brands factory which makes Bonds garments, Mr Turnbull said he was "horrified" to hear the company's board had given itself a pay rise.

"It's a poor decision by Pacific Brands, and ... they're going to take a hit in terms of their public image by laying off 1850 Australians," Mr Turnbull said.

"To do that at the same time as they're jacking up their own pay is only going to make it worse - it's not a smart move on their part."

The best part is that Malcolm Turnbull is a silvertail show pony politician who was previously an investment banker who had his snout right into the same trough that he's now, for political advantage, criticising the Pacific Brands people for shoving their snouts into.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! :evil:

Firefly
02-27-2009, 07:30 AM
I wouldn't bet on it being tolerated here much longer.


Thats the truth. I find the same old lines from PK to be getting more tedious every time he spouts them.

The Mods are rubbish because they allow a bit of freedom, the Mods dont ban enough people etc etc etc.......

PK, its not my fault that The UK kicked Argentina out of the Falklands. If you cant get beyond this then your never going to enjoy yourself here mate.

Firefly
02-27-2009, 07:35 AM
Also, Im locking this thread. It is another one of those arguments that is going nowhere but round in a big circle.

Cheers.