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Rising Sun*
01-02-2009, 08:53 AM
American (male) cops with no hair.

Why are men with hair on their heads excluded from police service in America?

Rising Sun*
01-02-2009, 09:03 AM
Women who are surprised by the novel concept of paying at supermarket checkouts.

After the checkout chick has put through a couple of hundred dollars of groceries and announces the total, THEN the customer, usually fat and stupid, starts searching for her wallet / purse / a passing stranger who might give her the price of a trolley of groceries for a toothless head job in the car park.

After finally locating her purse or other receptacle for her funds, such as the bottomless depths of her freckled, weathered cleavage, she becomes obsessed with finding the five cent piece for the exact money. This is accompanied by endless protestations of "The lining in my purse is torn, but I know there's a five cent piece in there."

The lining of her brain is also torn, but there ain't no money in there.

How often have you felt like saying "Here's the five cents, fatso, now piss off!" ?

herman2
01-02-2009, 09:32 AM
Things that piss me off, is when I have to struggle to start the car in the snow, get salt all over the car, wash it, get salted again, freeze my *** off walking from the parking lot to work, sweating in the car and freezing when I get out………………when them dam peoples In Ozzie Land get to live in beautiful weather year round and never ever have to worry about the frigin Snow!..It just ain’t human I tell ya! Dem bastarrds!

3099

Rising Sun*
01-02-2009, 09:42 AM
Things that piss me off, is when I have to struggle to start the car in the snow, get salt all over the car, wash it, get salted again, freeze my *** off walking from the parking lot to work, sweating in the car and freezing when I get out………………when them dam peoples In Ozzie Land get to live in beautiful weather year round and never ever have to worry about the frigin Snow!..It just ain’t human I tell ya! Dem bastarrds!

3099


Well, it ain't all beer and skittles down here. :rolleyes: :D

When we go surfing we have to wash off the salt, and the sunblock, after we've finished.

How'd you like to have your bikini clad girlfriend smear sunblock cream all over you before you could risk your life in shark infested waters? :D

32Bravo
01-02-2009, 10:02 AM
Having to break the ice on the Serpentine before I can swim! :(

herman2
01-02-2009, 12:44 PM
Ok, Now this really pisses me off. I planned a vacation for 5 weeks and now my boss is telling me I only have 4 weeks. Now that REALLY pisses me off, cause I already bought the airline tickets for 5 week period. Dam! ...hard to beleive I could be so stupid!
( No comment is required thank you!)

Egorka
01-02-2009, 12:45 PM
It posses me off that there are no bold policewomen around. I would not mind getting caught by one. I would even commit a moderate crime for that sake.

Churchill
01-02-2009, 01:33 PM
What bothers the crap out of me...

1. The naivety of many people.

2. How Americans(in the USA, mostly) think that everyone in the world is interested/centred around (in) The States.

3. The lack of leg room in economy class on trans-Atlantic flights(Houston to Paris)

4. Stars who think they are the centre of the universe.

5. People who complain that it is cold when its 10 degrees Celcius(it really isn't, I promise). People who wear the cloths you are supposed to wear at -20 degrees Celcuis at 10 degrees Celcius.

More to come later!!!

herman2
01-02-2009, 01:53 PM
Something that pisses me off (well not really-sorta more like a curiosity thing);;Why does Mr.Churchill always use Cuts phrase at the end of his posts: Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuts
Like it or lump it.

Cyber Nations - A fun game, join my alliance and have fun!
...and when you click on the quote it reverts back to an old post i had with cuts.
Wazz up with that??.. Iam dying to know and it pisses me off that I don't know
Why not just say Like it or Lump it?...why say CUTS-Like it or Lump it
..it doesn't make sense to me??
..and what is with Cyber nations promo thing?
Aughhh...i'm confused??

Churchill
01-02-2009, 05:16 PM
I have "Like it or lump it" because when I first saw it after Cuts posted it, I thought it was one of the more humorous things posted on this forum.

As for the Cyber Nations link, you can chalk that up to shameless advertising. I'm trying to get people to join the game, and then join my alliance. It has worked halfway so far: MoreHeadDriller joined the game, but he joined a different alliance. So... Join please! :)

Hope that floats your boat Herman!

herman2
01-05-2009, 12:02 PM
Ok Churchill, thanks for that input, I like it.
..Ok so now another thing that pisses me off. I go to the bank to exchange some money for my Big trip and they tell me that they can only change me $200 American. They say unless I have a bank acct that's all they can change for me. It's bad enough the dam Green back is like 27 % higher than my dollar, but waz up with the limit?. I mean there making interest in service charge so whats it to them if I change $1000 or $200. Oh, and another thing, they copy down my drivers license number, name and dob on a log sheet, as if it is such a crime to exchange for American Money. And one last thing. They never have any small bills. They give me these dam 100 bills that nobody wants or cash's....this pisses me off!

pdf27
01-05-2009, 12:41 PM
I go to the bank to exchange some money for my Big trip and they tell me that they can only change me $200 American. They say unless I have a bank acct that's all they can change for me.
Money laundering regulations. People shifting large amounts of cash around who don't want to be identified (and in an era when bank accounts are pretty much universal, anyone trying to change large amounts of cash without a bank account most likely is doing so to remain anonymous) are very often doing it for nefarious purposes, frequently linked to organised crime or terrorism. To make life difficult for them, these regulations got introduced.


Oh, and another thing, they copy down my drivers license number, name and dob on a log sheet, as if it is such a crime to exchange for American Money.
Money laundering regulations again - if they want to build a case against you, they can use these log sheets to prove you have been shifting cash about.


And one last thing. They never have any small bills. They give me these dam 100 bills that nobody wants or cash's....this pisses me off!
Economy - it essentially costs the same to move any type of banknote from one place to another, so the cost per dollar is lowest with the highest denomination notes. Hence the incentive to give you $100 notes rather than say $20 - it's 5 times cheaper for the bank.

herman2
01-05-2009, 01:04 PM
[QUOTE=pdf27;146524]Money laundering regulations. People shifting large amounts of cash around who don't want to be identified
Money laundering regulations again - if they want to build a case against you, they can use these log sheets to prove you have been shifting cash about.


Shit PDF, Your not going to tell anyone are you? I don't want them catching on to my ploy!

Major Walter Schmidt
01-13-2009, 10:18 PM
Things that piss me off:
People who think the nuclear bombs are completely justified and is stupid to argue that they were bad

People who say that Japan killed every POW
(there is a guy that does the last two and he happens to be one of my best friends :D)

Not having tea in the morning

Not being on the internet

Kovalski
01-14-2009, 12:17 AM
People who proved to be useless and hopeless at work. After they were told to improve or their mistakes were pointed out, their only and the deadly answer is accusing the others of being the racists. It reminds me the Soviet courts: after you were accused, you got to prove that you are innocent.

saffer
01-14-2009, 02:53 AM
First pet hate - People who knowingly turn posted threads into flame wars then threaten to leave the forum when the shit hits the fan. Second pet hate - people who ask people who threaten to leave the forum to stay. This is not aimed here guys just another site that I visit that has this crap going on all the time.

Geoff

Cuts
01-14-2009, 04:38 AM
People who proved to be useless and hopeless at work. After they were told to improve or their mistakes were pointed out, their only and the deadly answer is accusing the others of being the racists. It reminds me the Soviet courts: after you were accused, you got to prove that you are innocent.

The 'racism' - or rather bigotry - call can be annoying. While there are undoubtedly people who have a general dislike for others of a different skin hue, nationality, culture or even accent, it has taken on a life of it's own.

People make decisions because, consciously or not, they are frightened of attracting a non-pc label so things get actioned for the weirdest reasons. That said, it can have it's amusing side. For example, at present all British troops are issued a fleece mid-layer for use in the cold, There is also an excellent 'Softie'-type suit, (jacket and trs,) which is presently on issue mainly to those deploying to Afghanistan or Iraq.

A recent intake at the Royal Military Academy, Sandhurst, (RMAS,) consisted as usual of British and foreign students. These latter are almost exclusively from warmer climes and have obviously different skin tones so they receive the 'Softie.'

This intake was no different, amongst the attendees were two men from Kenya. The first, had already been in the UK for about five years and was no stranger to the vagaries of UK weather,* the second had been in-country for less than twelve months and had yet to experience a British January.

The first received the newer suit and was toasty, the second was issued the fleece. An odd decision you might rightly think until one looks at the two gentlemen.
The acclimatised student who received the suit was at the other, (darker,) end of the reflective scale to he that received the fleece.
It's not where you're from, but how you're perceived !
This might have been due to the Norman guessing or perhaps higher authority was testing the students.



As a post script to those who have not served, yes, the second student could have asked for the situation to be remedied but then he'd have brought attention upon himself and might possibly be seen as a whinger. By uncomplainingly cracking on with the kit he had been issued he showed himself in a far better light to the Academy Staff.
Summed up in the phrase, "It's all character building stuff !" :D




* In Britain there is no climate, just 'weather' ! ;)

Rising Sun*
01-14-2009, 06:39 AM
The 'racism' - or rather bigotry - call can be annoying. While there are undoubtedly people who have a general dislike for others of a different skin hue, nationality, culture or even accent, it has taken on a life of it's own.

Frequently for the purpose of enforcing conformity with the views of arrogant arseholes who are the self-appointed guardians of the public conscience and morals, who have levered themselves into positions with 'equal opportunity' and 'anti-discrimination' titles in government and corporate offices where they work remorselessly to ensure that everyone is free to agree with their dogma.

Sling about terms such as 'racist' and 'chauvinist' (which has altered its original jingoistic meaning to be now a derogatory term referring to a 'male chauvinist' while 'feminist' has been elevated to a level of unimpeachable sainthood several degrees above Mother Teresa, who was a bit of a bitch in her own right like a lot of feminists but we're not allowed to say that :rolleyes:) and most of the accused back off because they know they're on a hiding to nothing.

Well, among the vast constellation of things that piss me off is people who allow themselves to cowed by such bullshit.

What pisses me off even more is when I allow myself to be cowed by it because I know I'm on a hiding to nothing in certain situations where the fight just isn't worth the candle.

Quite seriously, I think it's the same sort of enforced conformity which, in a more extreme form, allowed the likes of the Nazis to come to power and to consolidate their power because nobody is willing to challenge the lie because it is just easier not to do so.

For example, who now challenges the endlessly repeated bullshit that, for example, women are still oppressed because they are paid less than men for the same work? Really? Not in any graded position in the public service, teaching service, military and so on here, which are all bastions of lesbians producing such 'research' when not moaning about how badly women are treated while, as in my wife's case a couple of decades ago when the big arsed, dangly earring, carpenter's overall brigade were in the ascendant, berating women who (a) conceived a child without a turkey baster and then (b) dared, while supported by a chauvanist male (being in my wife's case, and this will come as a shock, me :D ), to stay at home for six or seven years to care full time for the child they willingly brought into the world with love instead of handing it over five days a week to an overworked, unqualified sixteen year old in a profit-making child care centre which couldn't give a stuff about the kid as long as the exorbitant fees are paid on time. And all this vitriol came my wife's, and other women's, way from their feminist sisters because women who don't hand the kid over to uninterested strangers at six weeks and return to work were letting the (dominated by lesbians) feminist side down. :rolleyes:

But try saying any of that, as I (and, even worse, my rather more annoyed if more diplomatic but less forgiving wife) unwisely have even when sober in hostile company, and after a while you just learn to let it go because you won't change anyone's opinion and it upsets social occasions. And we live in a free society with none of the issues that applied in Nazi Germany, yet we've been cowed into silence by the strident advocates of what has become the dominant social and political view, even if it offends experience and common sense and has no reliable independent research to support it.

Schuultz
01-14-2009, 07:24 PM
For example, who now challenges the endlessly repeated bullshit that, for example, women are still oppressed because they are paid less than men for the same work? Really? Not in any graded position in the public service, teaching service, military and so on here, which are all bastions of lesbians producing such 'research' when not moaning about how badly women are treated while, as in my wife's case a couple of decades ago when the big arsed, dangly earring, carpenter's overall brigade were in the ascendant, berating women who (a) conceived a child without a turkey baster and then (b) dared, while supported by a chauvanist male (being in my wife's case, and this will come as a shock, me :D ), to stay at home for six or seven years to care full time for the child they willingly brought into the world with love instead of handing it over five days a week to an overworked, unqualified sixteen year old in a profit-making child care centre which couldn't give a stuff about the kid as long as the exorbitant fees are paid on time. And all this vitriol came my wife's, and other women's, way from their feminist sisters because women who don't hand the kid over to uninterested strangers at six weeks and return to work were letting the (dominated by lesbians) feminist side down. :rolleyes:

But try saying any of that, as I (and, even worse, my rather more annoyed if more diplomatic but less forgiving wife) unwisely have even when sober in hostile company, and after a while you just learn to let it go because you won't change anyone's opinion and it upsets social occasions. And we live in a free society with none of the issues that applied in Nazi Germany, yet we've been cowed into silence by the strident advocates of what has become the dominant social and political view, even if it offends experience and common sense and has no reliable independent research to support it.

The big problem with feminism is that no guy dares to tell feminists when they go to far out of the fear of a social stigma as chauvinist/macho - and not less important, if they oppose the escapades of some feminists, they aren't going to get laid anymore.:mrgreen:

Moreheaddriller
01-14-2009, 07:53 PM
The big problem with feminism is that no guy dares to tell feminists when they go to far out of the fear of a social stigma as chauvinist/macho - and not less important, if they oppose the escapades of some feminists, they aren't going to get laid anymore.:mrgreen:

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO:lol:

flamethrowerguy
01-15-2009, 02:20 AM
As it matches the last posts (a bit):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWEjJfjNu44

Rising Sun*
01-15-2009, 03:57 AM
As it matches the last posts (a bit):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWEjJfjNu44

Combining the elements in the video, I guess it's a metrosexual thing to drink grog out of a woman's shoe? :D

Chevan
01-15-2009, 04:07 AM
...I guess it's a metrosexual thing to drink grog out of a woman's shoe? :D
I think this is rather sort of ...fetishism:)

Panzerknacker
01-23-2009, 05:23 PM
Several things but lately is this:

Our goverment paying for yellow fever vaccines to the people who travel to vacationate in Brazil...:rolleyes:

If that people had enough money to go at a foreigh country, should pay their own medicines. But of course with our mad goverment that is hardly a surprize.

Moreheaddriller
01-25-2009, 08:24 AM
Well at the moment there is a idiot with no experience wanting to close down gitmo thats what is pissing me off this week

Rising Sun*
01-25-2009, 08:48 AM
Well at the moment there is a idiot with no experience wanting to close down gitmo thats what is pissing me off this week

I'd prefer that idiot to an idiot who invaded Iraq for no good reason and caused vastly more deaths to no good purpose than 9/11 and authorised crimes against humanity which offend everything his office was supposed to protect and support.

That, however, ranks low on my scale compared with what is pissing me off mightily tonight which, having been reduced to Boredom Factor Ten with Crisis Alert, has seen me watching the tennis and being seriously pissed of with grunters and squealers. I mean, FFS, can't these *****s hit a frigging ball with their big empty round bat without sounding like someone has stuck a finger up their bum every time?

Schuultz
01-25-2009, 09:25 AM
I'd prefer that idiot to an idiot who invaded Iraq for no good reason and caused vastly more deaths to no good purpose than 9/11 and authorised crimes against humanity which offend everything his office was supposed to protect and support.

QFT


That, however, ranks low on my scale compared with what is pissing me off mightily tonight which, having been reduced to Boredom Factor Ten with Crisis Alert, has seen me watching the tennis and being seriously pissed of with grunters and squealers. I mean, FFS, can't these *****s hit a frigging ball with their big empty round bat without sounding like someone has stuck a finger up their bum every time?

It's Upper-Class Porn :D

Moreheaddriller
01-25-2009, 03:12 PM
Those aussies now how to get it on :lol:

Digger
01-31-2009, 06:39 AM
I'm pissed off by the mindless idiots lighting bushfires in the murderous heatwave conditions in Victoria and South Australia. Tougher, rougher penalties are long overdue.

Good thread by the way RS.

digger

navyson
01-31-2009, 07:00 AM
I'm pissed off by the mindless idiots lighting bushfires in the murderous heatwave conditions in Victoria and South Australia. Tougher, rougher penalties are long overdue.

What pisses me off, (along diggers lines), is people throwing their cigarette butts out the windows of their cars. Knowing...KNOWING... that Texas is in a horrible drought with water restrictions in place. Yet they would rather start grass/brush fires than smell up their car by putting them in the ashtray. There...I feel a little better now.

Rising Sun*
01-31-2009, 07:03 AM
I'm pissed off by the mindless idiots lighting bushfires in the murderous heatwave conditions in Victoria and South Australia. Tougher, rougher penalties are long overdue.

Good thread by the way RS.

digger



Digger,

Mate,

Good to see you back.

You've been missed.

As for lighting fires, yeah, slam them, and slam them about a hundred times as hard if it's intentional.

Strange thing is that, in many instances, the firebugs are members of the local fire brigades getting their rocks off in some way.

But there's no shortage of random ****heads like several I followed today out in the flat grass western suburbs flicking their cigarette butts out of their hoon Holdens and Fords. (Okay, I was in my XR6, but I don't smoke and I'm not a hoon. Mostly. ;) :D )

Rising Sun*
01-31-2009, 07:06 AM
What pisses me off, (along diggers lines), is people throwing their cigarette butts out the windows of their cars. Knowing...KNOWING... that Texas is in a horrible drought with water restrictions in place. Yet they would rather start grass/brush fires than smell up their car by putting them in the ashtray. There...I feel a little better now.

I was writing while you were posting, but we're singing from the same page.

Although I have to confess that it had never occurred to me that bushfires were a big issue in Texas,

navyson
01-31-2009, 07:17 AM
Although I have to confess that it had never occurred to me that bushfires were a big issue in Texas,

The area around where I live (San Antonio) has a lot of "scrub land" with undergrowth and trees that grow I dunno like 6-12 feet high. So, the grass and undergrowth, and trees for that matter, have been dry and krinkly(?) for several months now. Just ripe for fires to take place. Last I heard, we in San Antonio area were 16 inches below normal rain fall for 2008. And haven't had any rain worth speaking of in January this year.

32Bravo
01-31-2009, 07:24 AM
Just ripe for fires to take place. Last I heard, we in San Antonio area were 16 inches below normal rain fall for 2008. And haven't had any rain worth speaking of in January this year.

That's because some twat with a clipboard sent it in the wrong direction - it all fell on my garden! :evil:

Rising Sun*
01-31-2009, 07:28 AM
The area around where I live (San Antonio) has a lot of "scrub land" with undergrowth and trees that grow I dunno like 6-12 feet high. So, the grass and undergrowth, and trees for that matter, have been dry and krinkly(?) for several months now. Just ripe for fires to take place. Last I heard, we in San Antonio area were 16 inches below normal rain fall for 2008. And haven't had any rain worth speaking of in January this year.

Perhaps not too different to us.

Our water resources are down to buggery under the pressure of declining rainfalls.

We have unnecessary fire risks caused by 'environmentalist' idiots in and out of the government departments which are supposed to manage our fire risks, but the dumb shits insist on preserving the scrub under the tree canopy which will ensure a glorious fire.

As happens every year. :(

And then they wonder why it happens! :evil:

navyson
01-31-2009, 07:42 AM
That's because some twat with a clipboard sent it in the wrong direction - it all fell on my garden! :evil:
I wish I had a garden, my yard is either dirt or dried up grass.:(

Nickdfresh
01-31-2009, 08:01 AM
One of the things that pisses me off is people in a long line at a store or market that can't read nor comprehend the stipulations listed in a coupon or rebate, or intentionally try to con their way to getting more or something better than promised when I just want to grab the proverbial quart of milk. So they argue or pretend to be dumber than they actually are and as the line increases, they hope that they can get their way by holding things up or causing a scene until a manager comes and tells them is a nice way what complete, cheap assholes they are and they need to GTFO...

P.S.: that is not to say that a lot of stores make things intentionally confusing and there are a lot of incompetents working at these places. But still!

Schuultz
01-31-2009, 09:18 AM
Too little rain? I wish. Last summer was the rainiest in 30 years where I live, and we have to fight with constant freezing rain and snowfall around here, too.

I, too, can't see my garden, but that's because of a 5 inch ice layer topped with snow :(

That actually pisses me off quite a bit...

RifleMan20
01-31-2009, 10:34 AM
You know what grinds my gears: When people think there right and always think there right and never admit that they are wrong when they are wrong

Plus

I hate when people act all different when they are around "cool" people.

Thats what pisses me off.

Churchill
01-31-2009, 12:07 PM
Construction in the bathroom pisses me off... =(

Schuultz
01-31-2009, 01:50 PM
Construction in the bathroom pisses me off... =(

I know how you feel, mate. We had a 3 month construction in our bathroom once...

RifleMan20
01-31-2009, 02:06 PM
and you had to use a bush.

Schuultz
01-31-2009, 02:35 PM
Not quite. We have a second, but much smaller one...

RifleMan20
01-31-2009, 04:30 PM
Let me guess, the fat lady of the complex uses it and she comes out all calm and when you get to use it, it smells like she dumped an atomic bomb filled with crap in the toilet.

HAWKEYE
01-31-2009, 04:55 PM
Ok, what pisses me off??.....WTF rule came down that when you are talking on a cell phone in your car you have to move to the fast lane and drop down 10 miles under the posted speed limit??? Now those idiots piss me off...

RifleMan20
01-31-2009, 05:57 PM
This thread needs to be changed to a steaming room so everybody can just say what they want without getting in trouble (with some exceptions, of course)

Schuultz
01-31-2009, 08:26 PM
You know who really pisses me off? That RifleMan20 guy. Who the heck does he think he is?

jk :mrgreen:

namvet
01-31-2009, 09:12 PM
somebody who makes a turn then stops dead in the street before turning. dodging cell phone users..............

namvet
01-31-2009, 09:15 PM
Things that piss me off, is when I have to struggle to start the car in the snow, get salt all over the car, wash it, get salted again, freeze my *** off walking from the parking lot to work, sweating in the car and freezing when I get out………………when them dam peoples In Ozzie Land get to live in beautiful weather year round and never ever have to worry about the frigin Snow!..It just ain’t human I tell ya! Dem bastarrds!

3099

oh me to. BTY the photo brings back bad memories of my slow drives in snow to work. glad im retired !!!!! HA!!!!!:mrgreen:

namvet
01-31-2009, 09:16 PM
What bothers the crap out of me...

1. The naivety of many people.

2. How Americans(in the USA, mostly) think that everyone in the world is interested/centred around (in) The States.

3. The lack of leg room in economy class on trans-Atlantic flights(Houston to Paris)

4. Stars who think they are the centre of the universe.

5. People who complain that it is cold when its 10 degrees Celcius(it really isn't, I promise). People who wear the cloths you are supposed to wear at -20 degrees Celcuis at 10 degrees Celcius.

More to come later!!!


2. How Americans(in the USA, mostly) think that everyone in the world is interested/centred around (in) The States.



I resemble that remark !!!!!:mrgreen:

RifleMan20
01-31-2009, 10:08 PM
You know who really pisses me off? That RifleMan20 guy. Who the heck does he think he is?

jk :mrgreen:

That kinda hurt man, you know. lol

32Bravo
02-01-2009, 02:49 AM
I wish I had a garden, my yard is either dirt or dried up grass.:(

Mine is Eden - with a tad too much rain over the past two years. so I'm unable to enjoy it as much as I would normally. :(

Rising Sun*
02-01-2009, 05:25 AM
Ok, what pisses me off??.....WTF rule came down that when you are talking on a cell phone in your car you have to move to the fast lane and drop down 10 miles under the posted speed limit??? Now those idiots piss me off...

Also people who use mobile phones in public places and need to speak at about 140 decibels.

Apparently mobile phones rely on audio power and won't work if the user doesn't shout.

Also people who use mobile phones to talk to idiots instead of bringing the idiots with them, as with sheilas in shops trying to describe furniture or bathroom fittings or power tools or whatever to their dopey partner on the other end of the sonic powered phone at home. Or, even more stupid, about two aisles away.

pdf27
02-01-2009, 05:34 AM
Colonel Hogan.
Well, at least that's someone we can do something about :D

navyson
02-01-2009, 06:42 AM
Ok, what pisses me off??.....WTF rule came down that when you are talking on a cell phone in your car you have to move to the fast lane and drop down 10 miles under the posted speed limit??? Now those idiots piss me off...

YES! Why can't people be bothered to get a handsfree device.:evil: And they're so concentrated on their conversation they don't see the ten cars in a line behind them.

flamethrowerguy
02-01-2009, 07:47 AM
YES! Why can't people be bothered to get a handsfree device.:evil: And they're so concentrated on their conversation they don't see the ten cars in a line behind them.

Isn't using a cell phone while driving illegal in the US anyway? All over Europe it is, in Italy it could cost you up to 600 Euro (775 $) if busted by the cops.

navyson
02-01-2009, 08:01 AM
Isn't using a cell phone while driving illegal in the US anyway? All over Europe it is, in Italy it could cost you up to 600 Euro (775 $) if busted by the cops.

Hi FTG,
Well, in Texas it isn't illegal. Yet. I've heard that the state government is debating about it. Fortunately, I can hook up to the car via Bluetooth or use the earpiece in my truck. Yes, I have a truck.... I'm from TX!;)

Nickdfresh
02-01-2009, 08:02 AM
Isn't using a cell phone while driving illegal in the US anyway? All over Europe it is, in Italy it could cost you up to 600 Euro (775 $) if busted by the cops.


In most states it is, but the laws vary state by state, and are not nationally uniform.

But cell phones are one thing, but, the epidemic here of retarded teen girls TEXTING while driving is a real problem. Sadly, I think three were killed locally in a tragic accident last year..

navyson
02-01-2009, 08:08 AM
In most states it is, but the laws vary state by state, and are not nationally uniform.

But cell phones are one thing, but, the epidemic here of retarded teen girls TEXTING while driving is a real problem. Sadly, I think three were killed locally in a tragic accident last year..

Here locally, we had a prominent Emergency Room doctor get hit by a car and killed while jogging because someone was distracted by their cell phone.

HAWKEYE
02-02-2009, 01:40 AM
Yeah, had a kid take out my mailbox and 200 ft of fence texting while driving about 70 MPH and ran off the road, foggy and dark (about 10PM). Lucky bugger flew 200 feet flipped once and walked away without a scratch.

32Bravo
02-02-2009, 01:49 AM
Mine is Eden - with a tad too much rain over the past two years. so I'm unable to enjoy it as much as I would normally. :(

Speaking of the weather, we had ten inches of snow overnight and it's still falling. Looks as if I'll have to Tab it to the office as the transport system is up the creak, surprise, surprise!

Schuultz
02-02-2009, 06:44 AM
Yeah, we had roughly 10 inches of snow on Saturday, and we'll have another 10-15 inches on Tuesday... talk about shitty weather...

Rising Sun*
02-02-2009, 07:06 AM
Speaking of the weather, we had ten inches of snow overnight and it's still falling. Looks as if I'll have to Tab it to the office as the transport system is up the creak, surprise, surprise!

We've had successive days of temperatures well into the 40s (centigrade, not fahrenheit) which doesn't help our lousy public transport system either, as the people trapped at peak hour in our standing-room-only trains with no airconditioning and locked doors would testify when the heat buckles the rails, as would those trapped in lifts when the power goes out. If they live.


http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2628/svtrain420x0gw5.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=svtrain420x0gw5.jpg) http://www.theage.com.au/national/tracks-buckle-and-so-does-rail-system-20090128-7s0h.html

32Bravo
02-02-2009, 07:30 AM
We've had successive days of temperatures well into the 40s (centigrade, not fahrenheit) which doesn't help our lousy public transport system either, as the people trapped at peak hour in our standing-room-only trains with no airconditioning and locked doors would testify when the heat buckles the rails, as would those trapped in lifts when the power goes out. If they live.


http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2628/svtrain420x0gw5.jpg (http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=svtrain420x0gw5.jpg) http://www.theage.com.au/national/tracks-buckle-and-so-does-rail-system-20090128-7s0h.html

Know exactly what you mean...happens all of the time, here. :lol:

I took a walk to the station, this morning, the tracks couldn't be seen, completely concealed by deep snow.

Decided to skip work and go for a walk instead. I have a couple of pics of the neighbourhood which I'll post when I figure out how to do so.:)

jcompton
02-02-2009, 08:03 AM
Things that are pissing me off right now.... My possesed alarm clock that has decided to go off whenever it feels and make me late for work, the GD Pittsburgh Steelers for having won the Super Bowl.
People who take out thier whole family when they become depressed from losing their job. I understand times are tough but what goes thru these people's mind when they decide it would be best to take the lives of innocent children who still have a future?

pdf27
02-02-2009, 08:31 AM
80% of the people at work have taken the day off today due to being "snowed in". There are about 2 inches of snow locally, with the roads all being very well salted & gritted - I didn't even see a snowflake on the road until the last 50m to my factory.

Still, I can't complain too much - spent an extended lunch in the pub to celebrate a guy I work with becoming a grandfather, and just got back to find out we're being sent home an hour and a half early "because of the snow" :D.

Schuultz
02-02-2009, 08:33 AM
Decided to skip work and go for a walk instead. I have a couple of pics of the neighbourhood which I'll post when I figure out how to do so.:)

Use Photobucket.com or a similar picture-hosting site, then just copy & paste the image link.

And apparently the Superbowl ended up being a lot closer than I thought? I went to bed with roughly 9min still to go, and the score being 20-7, I thought they had it. I must've missed a lot. That pisses me off...

Nickdfresh
02-02-2009, 09:27 AM
Use Photobucket.com or a similar picture-hosting site, then just copy & paste the image link.

And apparently the Superbowl ended up being a lot closer than I thought? I went to bed with roughly 9min still to go, and the score being 20-7, I thought they had it. I must've missed a lot. That pisses me off...


It was a very good game, not as good as last years. I didn't care all that much who won, but I'm a little pissed that Arizona didn't win to be honest. But then if they had, they might have been the worst championship team ever...

namvet
02-02-2009, 09:34 AM
Know exactly what you mean...happens all of the time, here. :lol:

I took a walk to the station, this morning, the tracks couldn't be seen, completely concealed by deep snow.

Decided to skip work and go for a walk instead. I have a couple of pics of the neighbourhood which I'll post when I figure out how to do so.:)

I use either image shack or photobucket.

http://www.imageshack.us/

http://photobucket.com/ you have to create an account here.

namvet
02-02-2009, 09:36 AM
super bowl highlights

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80e86d72

Schuultz
02-02-2009, 10:04 AM
Thanks for the link, namvet - the video won't play for me, though, I'll have to try that again at home.

namvet
02-02-2009, 11:39 AM
http://i44.tinypic.com/2qszear.jpg
James Harrison after his record setting 100 yard INT return............gassed !!!!



http://i43.tinypic.com/2dj3qiu.jpg
Holmes game winning TD catch. What an awesome catch!!


piss's me off. people at drive thru banks. I swear some are there so long they have enough time to take out a home loan !!!!

stop light light sleepers. it turns green they don't move !!!!! and that's the pisser's for today !!!!

Richie B
02-02-2009, 01:24 PM
Things that piss me off -

Not having that clever chap Col Hogan around to lower the tone of proceedings :mrgreen:;):lol:

flamethrowerguy
02-02-2009, 01:29 PM
-Standing in line (or "in a queue" for the Brits;)) at the supermarket's cash register with a granny up front who likes to hand out the amount right on the cent. After 5 minutes of shuffling in her ancient wallet she notices that two cents are still missing, just to pay then with the largest bank note imaginable.

-Cable clutter of any kind.

-Knocking my "funny bone" (this would be in the elbow region)

Schuultz
02-02-2009, 01:56 PM
Ooooh, I hate those Grannies :evil:

What pisses me off, too: Hard-core vegetarians/vegans who try to force their idiocy up on you.
Obviously the way pigs and cows are farmed and slaughtered isn't the nicest thing to look at, but they still taste bloody (pun intended) good.

Humans are omnivores, live with it!

If you want to be a herbivore, become a Hindu and be reborn as a cow, or sheep or something...

Just watch out you don't get eaten.

namvet
02-02-2009, 05:53 PM
Ooooh, I hate those Grannies :evil:

What pisses me off, too: Hard-core vegetarians/vegans who try to force their idiocy up on you.
Obviously the way pigs and cows are farmed and slaughtered isn't the nicest thing to look at, but they still taste bloody (pun intended) good.

Humans are omnivores, live with it!

If you want to be a herbivore, become a Hindu and be reborn as a cow, or sheep or something...

Just watch out you don't get eaten.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/21/24204504_e143536a2e.jpg

screw them. chows ready :mrgreen:

Nickdfresh
02-02-2009, 06:00 PM
I sometimes like to remind people that Adolf was a salad-eater and teetotaler... :)

Nighthawk
02-02-2009, 06:25 PM
Ouch you got it right there mate

Nighthawk
02-02-2009, 06:29 PM
Vegetarians are shitty hunters !:lol:

namvet
02-02-2009, 06:59 PM
I sometimes like to remind people that Adolf was a salad-eater and teetotaler... :)

strange. he was flatulent. for real

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGWHFa1Sk90

Schuultz
02-02-2009, 07:08 PM
These just aren't enjoyable when you speak German... I can't concentrate on the subtitles while I hear what he actually says in the background...

Also, teetotal I knew, but vegetarian, too? No wonder that guy had serious issues...

navyson
02-02-2009, 07:44 PM
A couple of bumper stickers I've seen:

PETA- People Eating Tasty Animals.
Vegetarian- Indian word for lousy hunter.

Rising Sun*
02-02-2009, 10:40 PM
strange. he was flatulent. for real

He was addicted to pastries, which created other gut problems as well as flatulence. His doctor tried to get him to give them up, to no avail.

dbloge
02-03-2009, 02:18 AM
1.being overqualified for jobs when you need one

2.people that cut across parking lots in their cars


doug

Cuts
02-03-2009, 04:59 AM
These just aren't enjoyable when you speak German... I can't concentrate on the subtitles while I hear what he actually says in the background...

Top tip - and I won't even charge for this one:

Turn the bloody sound down !

Schuultz
02-03-2009, 06:32 AM
I've thought of that, too - but again it's just boring, because you can't hear him rage around like you would with sound on.

The joke comes from him raging around and non-German speakers imagining that that's really what he's saying.

Take away either of the two and it's really not that funny anymore...

Nickdfresh
02-03-2009, 03:08 PM
These just aren't enjoyable when you speak German... I can't concentrate on the subtitles while I hear what he actually says in the background...

Also, teetotal I knew, but vegetarian, too? No wonder that guy had serious issues...

I find most of them to be not that interesting, even as someone who speaks minimal German in that I can catch a couple of words here and there....

The the "Silentwulf" one is by far the funniest, mainly because the writing is so clever and makes the actual dialogue parodied even funnier:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfgn2lOSx6M

tankgeezer
02-03-2009, 08:31 PM
I sometimes like to remind people that Adolf was a salad-eater and teetotaler... :)
his Dr's were also shooting him up with benzedrine a few times a day.

saffer
02-04-2009, 01:51 AM
After this mornings nightmare trip to the office, my top 2 off-pissers are -
a) Those ignorent cows that lay in bed smelling farts until they're late and then feel it's their right to f..k the traffic up by sitting at robots (stop lights for everyone else in the world) putting their make-up on and getting so ingrossed trying turn shit into gold that they only realise that the light changed - for the third time - only when somebody like me has had to get out his car bang on their window and embarrass myself by using the foulest language at the Bitch.
b) Those impatient SOB's that can't wait in the traffic like the rest of humanity, so they use the emergency lanes to speed up ahead and cause the shit in the first place by then pushing in, in front of some old lady that they know won't get out the car and knock the stupidity out of them. I need to start a business so's I can work at home, or I won't see 50!!

Nickdfresh
02-04-2009, 06:28 AM
his Dr's were also shooting him up with benzedrine a few times a day.

It's funny when people who are "straight and narrow" or upright in their own minds are addicted to prescrips, or in this case, a yiffing speed addict...

Rising Sun*
02-04-2009, 06:42 AM
It's funny when people who are "straight and narrow" or upright in their own minds are addicted to prescrips, or in this case, a yiffing speed addict...

Goering put them all to shame in that area, both as a morphine addict and as someone with the strength of character to stop it.

He was about the only one of the Nazi leadership with an impressive war service record and with demonstrated serious guts. Not that he lacked a good range of undesirable qualities and behaviours, but compared with Hitler, Himmler and Goebbels he was at least very much alive and enjoying life to the limit.

Schuultz
02-04-2009, 06:52 AM
I need to start a business so's I can work at home, or I won't see 50!!

Or you could become a cop and kick the shit out of those people...

Rising Sun*
02-04-2009, 07:08 AM
Or you could become a cop and kick the shit out of those people...

A cop in South Africa?

I seem to recall that South African cops, perhaps mainly the black ones in difficult areas but I'm not sure, are killed at very high rates compared with Western countries.

Rising Sun*
02-04-2009, 07:44 AM
b) Those impatient SOB's that can't wait in the traffic like the rest of humanity, so they use the emergency lanes to speed up ahead and cause the shit in the first place by then pushing in, in front of some old lady that they know won't get out the car and knock the stupidity out of them. I need to start a business so's I can work at home, or I won't see 50!!

Last weekend I was giving serious thought to ramming a queue-jumping ***** who forced his way in, slowed me down to accentuate his victory, and then gave me the finger. I was in my own time. Working from home wouldn’t have avoided it.

This brings me to my simple system for improved road behaviour. Forgive me if I've posted it before because I’ve been preaching this for thirty odd years, with a surprising lack of interest from police and traffic management authorities, but I can't recall if I've posted it here.

1. Cars.

Your annual car registration includes stamps for three kills, and sealing guns, magazines, and gun cameras plus end of year inspection of your gun camera.

As long as your gun camera shows you haven’t exceeded three kills, as distinct from unsuccessful attacks, you don’t get into trouble.

You are permitted to fit up to two .30 cal machine guns to your car, each independently controlled and firing in any direction you like.

You have 600 rounds in the sealed magazine for each gun.

You may use your rounds as you like, whether against other cars, pedestrians or, in my preferred case, thirty something arsehole cyclists dressed up like they’re in the Tour de France who have a whole frigging lane set aside for them on the left but who insist on riding in the left car lane and who get real shitty when I dare to pull up against the gutter at the lights to block them, because I’m being a ***** to repay their arrogance in holding cars down to their speed. I don’t see why I shouldn’t get out and thump them on their helmet for being knobs when they thump on my boot because I’ve dared to impede their progress to the intersection where they will go through the red light that the cars observe to ensure that knob cyclists don’t get knocked down when going through red lights.

Anyway, if every driver, cyclist and pedestrian knows that all cars can unleash 600 rpm in their direction if they piss the driver off, it is guaranteed that everyone will improve their behaviour.

If they don’t, Darwinian selection applies and we lose those of least value to the species.


2. Motor bikes.

Forget campaigns encouraging drivers to look out for suicidal maniacs who come up on the blind side of cars way above the speed limit and then complain that there wasn't a tail gunner in the car to observe their kamikaze approach before they got dumped in the gutter.

Fit all motor bikes with huge incendiary devices in their petrol tanks, sufficiently powerful to ensure, in a collision, the obliteration of the rider and anything within a ten yard radius. This will improve the behaviour of both riders and drivers.

Schuultz
02-04-2009, 08:38 AM
Hahaha, that could be interesting.

But I don't think that killing is the best way to go. Leg-Amputation sounds more reasonable, especially since the idiots will not only have to live with a constant reminder of their stupidity, but will also be a deterrent for others. :twisted:

Nickdfresh
02-04-2009, 09:01 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mxxXXxuCNq0 :lol: Warning: Some offensive language if language offends you...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ka2hsHpazZU

Schuultz
02-04-2009, 09:16 AM
Haha, George Carlin was a pretty funny guy, though, if you ask me, he pretty much jumped the shark with his 'Words you can't say on TV' routine. There was no way he could ever top that...

Nickdfresh
02-04-2009, 10:06 AM
Haha, George Carlin was a pretty funny guy, though, if you ask me, he pretty much jumped the shark with his 'Words you can't say on TV' routine. There was no way he could ever top that...

LOL I was looking for the bit he does where he talks about mounting four .50 machine guns as an option in your car as a means to deal with people that pull out right in front of you, then drive about ten miles under the speed limit. Something that personally makes me want to scream and often does...

Schuultz
02-04-2009, 10:47 AM
That's the wrong bit then. He didn't mention that a single time in the routine you posted.

tankgeezer
02-04-2009, 11:23 AM
It's funny when people who are "straight and narrow" or upright in their own minds are addicted to prescrips, or in this case, a yiffing speed addict...
Hitler had a fairly debilitating disease, parkinson's or some such, among other maladies, so the thing to keep him in motion was bennies a few times a day. i have heard that this was given to some of the troops as well, to keep them edgy. kind of like the morro? tribesmen in the Philippines.

Nickdfresh
02-04-2009, 12:16 PM
That's the wrong bit then. He didn't mention that a single time in the routine you posted.


I know, I can't find it. I think it was after the segment where he goes into driving styles of other people that piss him off...specifically, using them to shoot out oncoming cars' bright headlights for those uncourteous assholes that never switch down to low beam...

dbloge
02-04-2009, 05:18 PM
Hitler had a fairly debilitating disease, parkinson's or some such, among other maladies, so the thing to keep him in motion was bennies a few times a day. i have heard that this was given to some of the troops as well, to keep them edgy. kind of like the morro? tribesmen in the Philippines.

you may be thinking of PERVATIN.......i believe there is more in on that at dererstzug.com


also, i cant stand who mope around while the "shop".......an ex boss gave some good advice during a meeting at work once "walk with a purpose"



doug

Cuts
02-04-2009, 07:48 PM
Hahaha, that could be interesting.

But I don't think that killing is the best way to go. Leg-Amputation sounds more reasonable, especially since the idiots will not only have to live with a constant reminder of their stupidity, but will also be a deterrent for others. :twisted:

As many troops know losing limbs is not a particular hindrance, indeed two lads from Para Reg returned to duty in the Afghan after losing legs then training themselves up to Reg stds.
But then they 'only' lost one limb.
Tom Neathway (http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/3943959.Hero_who_lost_both_legs_stands_up_to_get_m edal/) went that 'little further' as the lads on their way to Samarkand are wont to say.

As to whether it will impede your chances on a motorcycle, ask Dave Barr (http://motorcyclemuseum.org/halloffame/hofbiopage.asp?id=124) late of both the USMC and SADF. ;)

Schuultz
02-04-2009, 07:56 PM
First of all, it's amazing to see how these people managed to get back 'on their feet'. I have nothing but respect for them.

And as for the amputation as punishment: Just don't give them prosthetic legs. ;)

Cuts
02-04-2009, 08:38 PM
First of all, it's amazing to see how these people managed to get back 'on their feet'. I have nothing but respect for them.

And as for the amputation as punishment: Just don't give them prosthetic legs. ;)
That would work, after all Douggie Bader's captors threatened to take his 'tin legs' away as he kept escaping !

On the other 'hand,' those amputees who had acted as planks in the traffic would surely get themselves a skateboard at the earliest opportunity so they could continue to be a pain in the rump.

Schuultz
02-04-2009, 08:44 PM
Skateboards? Really? :D

Cuts
02-04-2009, 08:52 PM
Skateboards? Really? :D

Or perhaps a soapbox go-cart. :D

http://www.edinburghdirectaid.org/Images/OorWullie.jpg

tankgeezer
02-04-2009, 11:14 PM
A bit more about Adolph's health issues, and drug regimen "It has been proved that Adolf Hitler suffered from idiopathic Parkinson's disease. No indication for postencephalitic parkinsonism was found in the clinical symptoms or the case history. Professor Max de Crinis established his diagnosis of Parkinson's disease in Hitler early in 1945 and informed the SS leadership, who decided to initiate treatment with a specially prepared 'antiparkinsonian mixture' to be administered by a physician. However, Hitler never received the mixture, this implies that the SS intended to remove the severely diseased 'Leader'.

Two different character traits can be analysed in Hitler's personality: on the one hand the typical premorbid personality of parkinsonian patients with uncorrectable mental rigidity, extreme inflexibility and insupportable pedantry. On the other an antisocial personality disorder with lack of ethical and social values, a deeply rooted tendency to betray others and to deceive himself and uncontrollable emotional reactions. This special combination in Hitler's personality resulted in the uncritical conviction of his mission and an enormous driving for recognition. The neuropsychiatric analysis of Hitler's personality could lead to a better explanation of the pathological traits of one of the most conspicuous historical personalities."

Methamphetamines were first given out in World War II under the name Pervatin. Pervatin was used to keep German World War II pilots awake and alert while flying. Hitler's physician gave him injections of Pervatin to treat his fatigue and depression. Starting in 1940, Hitler's hands and body would shake during public appearances. It is unclear whether Hitler experienced hand and body tremors as a result of the Pervatin, or whether Pervatin was given to Hitler as a treatment for what was actually Parkinson's disease.

Digger
02-05-2009, 01:28 AM
Perhaps not too different to us.

Our water resources are down to buggery under the pressure of declining rainfalls.

We have unnecessary fire risks caused by 'environmentalist' idiots in and out of the government departments which are supposed to manage our fire risks, but the dumb shits insist on preserving the scrub under the tree canopy which will ensure a glorious fire.

As happens every year. :(

And then they wonder why it happens! :evil:

Don't get me going on this one mate. During the '94 fires greenies were actively preventing fire crews from back burning, making the situation potentially more dangerous. A bit of rough justice was threatened and said Greenies melted away.

But what pisses me off is everyone crying about our hot weather and lack of water and various governments offering weird and whacky solutions, when pure and simple, sensible water management, conservation can solve many problems.

Until this is done ALL immigration should be halted.

Thanks RS, it's good to be back and hopefully I'll be able to visit once a week. Any more time would be great.

digger:)

dbloge
02-05-2009, 02:31 AM
Two different character traits can be analysed in Hitler's personality: on the one hand the typical premorbid personality of parkinsonian patients with uncorrectable mental rigidity, extreme inflexibility and insupportable pedantry. On the other an antisocial personality disorder with lack of ethical and social values, a deeply rooted tendency to betray others and to deceive himself and uncontrollable emotional reactions. This special combination in Hitler's personality resulted in the uncritical conviction of his mission and an enormous driving for recognition. The neuropsychiatric analysis of Hitler's personality could lead to a better explanation of the pathological traits of one of the most conspicuous historical personalities."


i think hitler always displayed these all of these traits.......i remember reading a book describing him by a boyhood friend named i think kubicek?........there was also a mental analysis made during the was by the US....i forgot the books name


doug

Schuultz
02-05-2009, 06:36 AM
Until this is done ALL immigration should be halted.


So, just a general question:

Your Birth Rate is an average of 1.7 kids/family.

So obviously, a halt of immigration would mean that the Australian population would decrease, not only because there's .3 (lol) of a child missing per couple, but because people would still migrate.

This would help with the water supply, but what about the social system? Your population would age, and soon you would have more retired than working people.

I know that this is a huge problem in Germany, where the birthrate is even lower (I think it's somewhere around 1.35 or so), which is why Germany has so lenient immigration policies - they don't want the country to empty itself.
Still, there's about 30,000 (IIRC) less Germans every year (that's including immigrants).

Now in Germany the big worry is that soon the young minority will have to pay the old majority's retirement payments - not a very desirable situation.

How is Australia's social system? Wouldn't the Australians **** themselves over if they had a population decrease, just the way Germany does? Or is retirement a privately financed fond there?

(I know that this is getting off-topic, but let's just say this pisses me off :D)

Rising Sun*
02-05-2009, 06:49 AM
there was also a mental analysis made during the was by the US....i forgot the books name

doug

Quite a few were made by various Allies, but the one you might be thinking of is the one by Walter Langer's team which resulted in Langer's post-war book 'The Mind of Adolf Hitler'.

It's been a few decades since I read it, but I recall that in places it drew some very long bows on quite tenuous information.

From memory, the ?main intention was to try to predict how Hitler would react to various circumstances.

Its usefulness as a portrait of Hitler's mind is further limited by the fairly rudimentary development of psychology at the time.

Nickdfresh
02-05-2009, 07:35 AM
Quite a few were made by various Allies, but the one you might be thinking of is the one by Walter Langer's team which resulted in Langer's post-war book 'The Mind of Adolf Hitler'.

It's been a few decades since I read it, but I recall that in places it drew some very long bows on quite tenuous information.

From memory, the ?main intention was to try to predict how Hitler would react to various circumstances.

Its usefulness as a portrait of Hitler's mind is further limited by the fairly rudimentary development of psychology at the time.


He was tasked by the OSS to do what would now be called "forensic psychology profiling." I believe it was sort of hit and miss, he did however predict Hitler would commit suicide rather than try to flee or become a guerrilla leader...

Nickdfresh
02-05-2009, 07:36 AM
Schuultz, that pic in your sig, is that the Heer special forces or paratroops?

Schuultz
02-05-2009, 07:44 AM
That's KSK (Kommando Spezialkräfte) during a training exercise, you're right, they're the Heer Special Forces. The Navy version would be the SEKM (called Kampfschwimmer, pretty much German Navy Seals)

I don't think the paratroopers have to wear masks during regular training...

I honestly don't remember where I found it, though. I think I just googled it, and it came up somewhere along there.
Sorry, tried to find the link, but I couldn't find it again. :neutral:
I added the flag and the Federal Eagle, they weren't part of the original image, I had to crop it, too...

EDIT: I just noticed that the soldier is using the Para-version of the G36, so I understand that you were unsure. Also, the Heer Special Forces use the same beret color as the Paras, and even their official insignia (not the sword, the spec-ops sign) looks almost like the Paratrooper insignia, except that it has an added thunderbolt.

Rising Sun*
02-05-2009, 08:28 AM
He was tasked by the OSS to do what would now be called "forensic psychology profiling." I believe it was sort of hit and miss, he did however predict Hitler would commit suicide rather than try to flee or become a guerrilla leader...

I'm hugely rusty on this, but my recollection of Langer's work is that there were some very sketchy reports upon which some of the analyses were based.

Sort of 'a mate of mine knows a bloke down the pub whose missus works in the laundry that does Hitler's sheets and she heard from the bloke who drives the truck for the laundry company that collects Hitler's sheets that there are marks on his sheets which show that ......'

Churchill
02-05-2009, 03:01 PM
Making public presentations/speaches pisses me off.

Schuultz
02-05-2009, 03:59 PM
Making public presentations/speaches pisses me off.

Ah really? I know you're still in high school, so you'll have to take my word for it: It's going to get a lot easier once (if) you go to University.
Just keep in mind that the majority doesn't even know you, your friends support you, and that you could give less than a **** about what the rest thinks. :D

Rising Sun*
02-05-2009, 04:58 PM
Making public presentations/speaches pisses me off.

This confirms my long-held suspicion that you're not the real Churchill. :D

Schuultz
02-05-2009, 05:46 PM
This confirms my long-held suspicion that you're not the real Churchill. :D

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooot??? :shock:

How could you do that to us, Churchill? We thought you were the real deal!

Though, on second thought, we should have grown suspicious when you said you were in high school...:neutral:

Churchill
02-05-2009, 06:16 PM
I know, I know...

I don't care when I'm talking about something I know, or when I've prepared, but doing improv. isn't what I was looking for...

RifleMan20
02-05-2009, 07:16 PM
^^^^^^^^^^
Imposter!!!! Though I can imagine Churchill as a high school student ( the real one )

Churchill
02-05-2009, 07:38 PM
Hahaha, me too.

Major Walter Schmidt
02-05-2009, 07:38 PM
.........the real one was disobedient and uber Pro English to the point he ditched Latin for more English....

RifleMan20
02-05-2009, 07:40 PM
He'll be the cool one on the block, with his slick greasers hair and leather jacket, yep, he was a ladies man.

tankgeezer
02-06-2009, 12:29 AM
"He'll be the cool one on the block, with his slick greasers hair and leather jacket, yep, he was a ladies man."
Thats sounds like me. (back when I had hair,,,,) :)

Schuultz
02-06-2009, 08:53 AM
Hahaha, poor tankgeezer :D

HAWKEYE
02-06-2009, 09:08 AM
What pisses me off is when people do conserve water and don't wash cars, and water lawns and all the things the govt. says we shouldn't do to save water.....then when we do save water the same govt. jacks up the water rates because...................we aren't using enough water so the water board has a budget shortfall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that a R/L Catch 22 or what.......

Rising Sun*
02-07-2009, 04:04 AM
Your Birth Rate is an average of 1.7 kids/family.

That sounds about right.

I have two children, both teenagers.

I reckon each of them is about .15 deficient in body mass, which is confined to their empty skulls where their brains should be. :D


So obviously, a halt of immigration would mean that the Australian population would decrease, not only because there's .3 (lol) of a child missing per couple, but because people would still migrate.

This would help with the water supply,

Not greatly.

Our water supply problems are partly climatic but largely due to plenty of water now being in places where people aren’t (e.g. Lake Argyle in north western Australia holds about nine times the volume of (fresh) water as Sydney Harbour, but that’s no good to people in our largest city Sydney on the other side of the continent); to farming marginal land which requires irrigation; and to bad resource management, such as using the bulk of the headwaters of our major eastern continental water system to grow water-hungry cotton and rice inefficiently in essentially arid areas where the water storages are huge but shallow, so that much of the stored water is lost to evaporation. Same with thousands of miles of open water channels to irrigation farms in marginal areas.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/plea-for-cotton-farms-water/2006/11/06/1162661617879.html

http://www.cpa.org.au/garchve08/1378water.html

The bulk of our water is used to grow food for domestic consumption and export. If we lose the capacity to produce our own food, and to earn foreign dollars on exports to import the food we can’t grow, we are, and this ain't brain surgery, stuffed.

We don’t have a total failure of water supply despite being in the (allegedly, but there is evidence to the contrary less than a century ago) worst recorded drought (but it’s only about 150 years of records, which isn’t even a blink in earth time).

We do have a serious problem with the location, allocation and use of the resource, but it’s made far worse because we are governed by cloth eared, brain dead idiots who wouldn’t know if a train was up them until the passengers got out. As demonstrated by the Water Minister in my state who, upon being asked why his government opposed the installation of domestic water tanks to capture significant rainfall from house roofs in the longest and worst drought we've experienced with our metropolitan and state water storages falling every year lately, said, and I kid you not, that domestic water tanks "fill up in winter when you don't need them.” http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/to-dim-and-johnny-its-water-under-the-bridge-20081216-6zrs.html

There could not, of course, be any connection between government opposition to rainwater tanks where citizens harvest the bounty of the heavens for free as nature intended and our government relying upon privatised water companies to provide at a profit to them what a couple of decades ago was our right from the state water supply system we paid for from our water taxes, which were handed over to the private water companies for a fraction of their cost.


but what about the social system? Your population would age, and soon you would have more retired than working people.

I know that this is a huge problem in Germany, where the birthrate is even lower (I think it's somewhere around 1.35 or so), which is why Germany has so lenient immigration policies - they don't want the country to empty itself.
Still, there's about 30,000 (IIRC) less Germans every year (that's including immigrants).

Now in Germany the big worry is that soon the young minority will have to pay the old majority's retirement payments - not a very desirable situation.

That’s been predicted here for the past three decades as an imminent problem.

It worried me, and others, the first time I heard it at a conference for senior managers of the life insurance / superannuation company we worked for thirty or so years ago, when it was predicted to destroy civilisation as we knew it by the year 2000. It ain’t happened yet. Oddly enough, its greatest proponents are salespeople for superannuation funds who are trying to frighten people into paying more than the government minimum calculated to provide a reasonable retirement.

The argument assumes that the only source of income is from personal income tax. The reality is that governments here derive income from other sources such as a 10% goods and services tax (= VAT in UK); taxes on businesses; and taxes on asset transfers, notably real estate. As the population grows and engages in taxable transactions, so does the base of those other taxes.



How is Australia's social system? Wouldn't the Australians **** themselves over if they had a population decrease, just the way Germany does? Or is retirement a privately financed fond there?

I think our government social security system for retired people might be rather less generous than that in some European countries, although I haven’t seen recent comparisons. It used to be that Scandinavia and Germany had womb to tomb social security systems that ensured everyone lived reasonably well all their life, but I don’t know if that’s the case now, particularly since Germany inherited the Soviet jewel in the crown, being East Germany. ;) :rolleyes:

Here, we like to stick to the 80/20 rule, so that we spend 80% of our social security budget on the 20% of the population which causes 80% of the work for police, child welfare services, community services, courts, prisons and so on. Actually, it’s more like the 95/5 rule, but you get the idea.

By diverting our national income to these unworthy recipients, we ensure that money isn’t wasted on worthy recipients such as old servicemen and servicewomen who actually did something for the country; or on their families; or on just the vast bulk of the population being average people who worked and behaved responsibly all their lives while the shitheads just bludged and whinged and bred the next generation of shithead bludgers and whingers who will repay the nation’s misplaced largesse by destroying the government housing that’s given to them at minimal rent and whingeing about how their government benefit isn’t enough to live on as they sit stupidly before their 48 inch plasma TV while yapping on their top line mobile phone and hoeing into their take away mega meal which could have been cooked at home for a quarter of the price. Meanwhile the old soldiers and old age pensioners who lived responsibly have about the same government pension as the shitheads and wait for months or years to get into underfunded public hospitals for ‘non-urgent’ surgery to alleviate painful and debilitating ailments while the shitheads get immediate access to hospitals every time they overdose on drugs that they somehow manage to afford on the government pensions they whinge aren’t enough to exist on.

And all of that, and more in the same vein,


really pisses me off!

Digger
02-07-2009, 05:58 AM
Bloody hell RS you took the words right out of my mouth.;)

I will only add the problems of water management(mismangement) have been around since the first settlers arrived in this country. For over one hundred years various governments have paid lip service to drought proof this country, but as RS pointed out most governments could not organize a piss up in a brewery.

The simple fact is for over thirty years NO government in this country has allocated adequate funds(if any in some states excluding Queensland) to build the infrastructure to keep pace with changing conditions or the increasing levels of immigration.

digger

32Bravo
02-11-2009, 03:13 PM
One expeience which sticks in my mind was when I was first re-introduced to life as a civvie.

A few weeks earlier, I had been zipping around in the belly of a rotary-winged aricraft...So, there I was, waiting in the snow, for a bus which was half-an-hour late. Suddenly, the bus appears, I stepped aboard, the driver said "You must have the correct change!" There was I, covered in snow and more than a little miffed, I said "You can Foxtrot Oscar, Sunshine, you're half-an-hour late! This is coin-of-the-realm, I want to go home - Driver, take me there!"

Next thing I know, he's on the blower and the Bobbies are on their way...can you believe it? :(

Schuultz
02-11-2009, 07:21 PM
Haha, wow, that's quite a story. So you were a military pilot?

32Bravo
02-12-2009, 02:59 AM
Haha, wow, that's quite a story. So you were a military pilot?

No, I was cargo! :(

Rising Sun*
02-12-2009, 04:57 AM
No matter how many minor to moderate things there are to piss me off, very occasionally there is something new and outstandingly objectionable to really get up my arse, which shits me mightily rather than merely pisses me off.

And here is a spectacularly obnoxious 'shits me mightily'.

Rarely do I get a double-barrelled push up the pooper like this God-bothering and relentlessly publicity-seeking little pastor ***** exploiting our devastating bushfires and the deaths of a couple of hundred people to push his own nasty religious barrow while a major federal politician who has sucked up to that pastor and his fundamentalist Christian ****wits like a dehydrated piglet on a rubber glove suddenly distances himself from the bloke and electors who helped him and his neo-con shits into power, and who will suck up to them again when the fires have abated.


A FURIOUS Peter Costello has rounded on a Christian cult for suggesting the Victorian bushfires were divine retribution for the state's abortion laws, describing it as "beyond the bounds of decency".

Just three weeks ago, the former federal treasurer sent a video message to a special Australia Day prayer meeting organised by Catch the Fire Ministries leader Danny Nalliah.

But he reacted angrily to a statement by Mr Nalliah yesterday recalling a dream concerning the consequences of Victorian abortion legislation that became law last year.

"In my dream I saw fire everywhere with flames burning very high and uncontrollably," Mr Nalliah said.

The preacher claimed God's "conditional protection" had been "removed from the nation of Australia, particular Victoria, for approving the slaughter of innocent children in the womb".

Mr Costello rejected the claims.

"To link the death and the suffering of bushfire victims to other political events is appalling, heartless and wrong," he said. "Those who have suffered deserve every support and sympathy. It is beyond the bounds of decency to try to make moral or political points out of such a tragedy."

Catch the Fire Ministries have given their blessing to Mr Costello's leadership ambitions on several occasions.

Mr Nalliah met Mr Costello ahead of the 2007 election to "prepare" him for the prime ministership. A church member publicly recounted an episode where "the spirit of God suddenly moved me to cry out in the loud Aboriginal-like tongue followed by the shouting out several times of 'the honourable Peter Costello, prime minister-elect of Australia'."

And just ahead of an Australia Day prayer meeting, Mr Nalliah announced: "Our silent prayer is that Peter ... will be here to take the leadership of the party and lead the nation into victory as prime minister."

Mr Nalliah has attributed both the drought and the global financial crisis in part to human sin.

We need an emoticon for projectile vomiting!


And for the Catch the Fire Ministries own version of how legalising abortions causes bushfires which are predicted in dreams by pastors of self-proclaimed Christian churches, go to http://catchthefire.com.au/blog/2009/02/10/media-release-abortion-laws-to-blame-for-bush-fires/

Schuultz
02-12-2009, 06:46 AM
Well, it's the same with the Communists...

Everybody seems to try to get an advantage out of the suffering of others...

We live in a bizarre world.

Rising Sun*
02-12-2009, 07:13 AM
Well, it's the same with the Communists...

Everybody seems to try to get an advantage out of the suffering of others...

We live in a bizarre world.

Communists at least have a coherent ideology based upon the greatest good for the greatest number, even if in practice the nations which have tried it so far have been abysmal failures because the structure and operation of the state have been dictatorial antitheses of the communist ideal.

People who view natural events revealed to them in dreams as God's punishment for whatever are just patent ****ing nuts and should be locked up so they can't infect other weak minds.

Schuultz
02-12-2009, 08:11 AM
I'm talking about the Communists blaming the fires' many deaths on Capitalism...

Dixie Devil
02-12-2009, 09:55 AM
Some stupid woman in California with 6 kids and no job that is supported by government money that goes and has eight embryos implanted in her womb and now is expecting the Government to pay for her new 8 kids. :evil: And I am sure they will. I think medical cost alone were going to run $1.3 million.

Sometimes I wonder why I get defensive when people call Americans stupid….:confused:

Schuultz
02-12-2009, 10:00 AM
That's almost as good as the German Aid worker who decided it would be a great idea to adopt 50 Palestinian kids, and since he's unemployed the government will have to take care of them.

Then, according to himself, he was planning on giving them up on adoption again in Germany as soon as they have the German citizenship (through him) and will be supported exclusively by the Government.

Rising Sun*
02-12-2009, 06:33 PM
I'm talking about the Communists blaming the fires' many deaths on Capitalism...

Ah, that.

In principle they ought to be locked up for being as delusional as the idiot pastor, but the difference is that communism is dead for all practical purposes while Pastor ***** is just one of possibly millions of religious nutcases of all brands of religion who do more harm than good and hold sway over tens of millions of deluded and nasty people.

Rising Sun*
02-12-2009, 06:36 PM
Some stupid woman in California with 6 kids and no job that is supported by government money that goes and has eight embryos implanted in her womb and now is expecting the Government to pay for her new 8 kids. :evil: And I am sure they will. I think medical cost alone were going to run $1.3 million.

How did she afford the initial treatment?

Your public health system must be way more generous than it's understood to be here.

Iron Yeoman
02-13-2009, 02:10 AM
Things that piss me off -

1.Seeing my taxes fund workshys so they can watch Jeremy Kyle and Trisha.
2.Having to re-attend my 'inclusion & diversity' training again!!
3.Not getting my morning wet because the mongs can't fix the machine and we're not allowed kettles.
4.The hippo/pig thing on my bus who likes to share her deluded opinions on the world with everyone. (Apparently it's all a conspiracy by the big corporations and the Catholic Church :roll: )
5.People who spend their entire working day talking about striclty come x factor on ice and tell me about it.:evil:

Dixie Devil
02-13-2009, 07:20 AM
How did she afford the initial treatment?

Your public health system must be way more generous than it's understood to be here.

I'm really not sure how she afforded it all. They were saying that she was receiving somewhere around $4,000 a month from the government on top of food stamps, probably living in government assisted housing and of course health care was free too. (this is all just stuff they have reported on in the news so of course I can't vouch for any of it)

As far as the health care goes, there is plenty of adequate public health care. The big gripe by those people that won’t get health insurance (which has always been quite cheap through all my jobs) is that people who actually pay for it tend to receive better health care. Big shocker there :rolleyes:

Rising Sun*
02-13-2009, 07:37 AM
As far as the health care goes, there is plenty of adequate public health care. The big gripe by those people that won’t get health insurance (which has always been quite cheap through all my jobs) is that people who actually pay for it tend to receive better health care. Big shocker there :rolleyes:

We have a carefully thought out national health system here which through the tax system penalises people who don't join private (for profit) health insurance funds which results in people who don't join them getting their treatment for everything for free in public hospitals while the privately insured people getting the same treatment in the same hospital who have paid thousands of dollars every year to be in their private insurance fund get slugged with thousands of dollars more in out of pocket non-insured costs for the same service the no-hopers get for free.

As you Americans say, go figure! :confused:

Dixie Devil
02-13-2009, 08:55 AM
As you Americans say, go figure! :confused:

Yep. Reward the lazy and punish the hard working people. Guess that isn't just here in the States. :evil:

herman2
02-16-2009, 12:27 PM
What pisses me off is that with all the stealth advanced technology in the world, we are still able to collide 2 nuclear atomic subs into each other, despite being in the endless vast oceans of the world. I am referring to the collision of the French and English Sub last mth. Don't these Sub commanders have to be smart to command a sub? So then how the hell is it, that they can still smash into each other if there so smart. Hell, give me command of the dam sub as I bet I could have done no worse then the commanders who smashed the subs against one another. What is the world coming to! This pisses me off.

namvet
02-16-2009, 12:46 PM
What pisses me off is that with all the stealth advanced technology in the world, we are still able to collide 2 nuclear atomic subs into each other, despite being in the endless vast oceans of the world. I am referring to the collision of the French and English Sub last mth. Don't these Sub commanders have to be smart to command a sub? So then how the hell is it, that they can still smash into each other if there so smart. Hell, give me command of the dam sub as I bet I could have done no worse then the commanders who smashed the subs against one another. What is the world coming to! This pisses me off.

I read this. go figure

Schuultz
02-16-2009, 01:49 PM
The problem is that even though both commanders had sonar, both also had anti-sonar machinery. The big question is why they had that activated, anyway...

Who knows, maybe England and France are secretly at war under water? xD

Dixie Devil
02-16-2009, 03:31 PM
Who knows, maybe England and France are secretly at war under water? xD

That can't be the case, France hasn't surrendered yet :lol:

Churchill
02-16-2009, 03:50 PM
Boo!!! Stop hatin'! :)

Dixie Devil
02-16-2009, 04:07 PM
:lol: It was there, I had to use it. I didn't think someone in England would be the first to boo me though :lol:

Schuultz
02-16-2009, 04:12 PM
Well, maybe he's been lying to us the entire time... :D

Churchill
02-16-2009, 06:18 PM
Eh, I'm Canadian, English, and French. Good luck getting around that. =)

Schuultz
02-16-2009, 06:37 PM
Eh, I'm Canadian, English, and French. Good luck getting around that. =)

Reduce that to English and French. The Canadians half-assed their independence so much you can't really consider them an independent country :D

Churchill
02-16-2009, 08:57 PM
NEVAR!!! They'll end up saving the world one day... <_<'

tankgeezer
02-16-2009, 09:13 PM
NEVAR!!! They'll end up saving the world one day... <_<'
Stripper shock troops throwing bacon grenades will defeat the enemy. (insert "Burp" smiley)

Churchill
02-16-2009, 09:15 PM
...

Jerk...

(!)~(!)

Oh yeah, read the Hammered series, you'll see.

tankgeezer
02-16-2009, 11:38 PM
Ooooh, testy,,,

mudgrunt
02-17-2009, 12:01 AM
or they pull out a checkbook, fill it out wrong and it's their last check. Then the process starts all over.

Dixie Devil
02-17-2009, 06:31 AM
Eh, I'm Canadian, English, and French. Good luck getting around that. =)

One little wisecrack got all kinds of stuff stirred up :lol:

Of course I don't have a lot of room to make fun myself. Being American i'm a good ole mutt myself and there is a sprinkling for French in my make up. Mostly German with a lot of Irish and Native American but I have to confess a little Frog too. ;)

Schuultz
02-17-2009, 06:40 AM
90% German and 10% Huguenot...

But living in Canada... so believe me when I say that Canada-US relations are like the Scotland-England relations or the Austria-Germany relations.
The latter is one of the former's main trade partner, but neither really like each other :D

herman2
02-17-2009, 07:28 AM
90% German and 10% Huguenot...

But living in Canada... so believe me when I say that Canada-US relations are like the Scotland-England relations or the Austria-Germany relations.
The latter is one of the former's main trade partner, but neither really like each other :D

Well, ever since I got to know Nick, I have changed my opinion about Americans and I know think there really Cool...Like Nick!:lol:

Dixie Devil
02-17-2009, 09:17 AM
90% German and 10% Huguenot...

But living in Canada... so believe me when I say that Canada-US relations are like the Scotland-England relations or the Austria-Germany relations.
The latter is one of the former's main trade partner, but neither really like each other :D

Are things really that bad between Canadians and Americans? Being in the Southeastern United States we don’t really have the contact with Canadians like the Yankees do so I don’t really know how relations are. If it makes you feel better we Southerners don’t have the highest regard for the average yank either. :lol: We have been known to accept them once they prove themselves though.

I can claim to work with a few Newfies and they mesh just fine with us down here but from what they say they are regarded as the backwards, uneducated people of Canada so we have that common ground. ;)

herman2
02-17-2009, 10:18 AM
Well, all I can say is that our Newfies speak about as good english as you Southerners speal english, with the accent and all. (Although I just Love it when a girl from the South speaks, cause her accent is so very cute!..Rrrrrr

Dixie Devil
02-17-2009, 12:18 PM
Well, all I can say is that our Newfies speak about as good english as you Southerners speal english, with the accent and all. (Although I just Love it when a girl from the South speaks, cause her accent is so very cute!..Rrrrrr

You mean speak?
We have the only dialect that anyone else that speaks English can understand so how is our dialect wrong? Everyone else just needs to slow down and enjoy life a little.:mrgreen:

Schuultz
02-17-2009, 04:03 PM
Maybe the word relations was a poor choice. I guess 'Opinion' would be better. And in fact, Canadians base a lot of their bad opinions and dislike of Americans on Southerners... (Rednecks, Bush, etc)

Dixie Devil
02-17-2009, 04:22 PM
Maybe the word relations was a poor choice. I guess 'Opinion' would be better. And in fact, Canadians base a lot of their bad opinions and dislike of Americans on Southerners... (Rednecks, Bush, etc)

Ah it makes more sense now. Well people having negative opinions of Southerners dates back to the formation of this country and I am sure will continue. As long as the majority of people that form these negative opinions of us have never been here it doesn’t bother me too much.

Oh and as far as not liking Southerners because of Bush, what about Clinton or Carter? They were both southerners. Hell im going to count Regan too, he thought he was a cowboy :lol:

tankgeezer
02-17-2009, 04:27 PM
In America, Texans are not generally considered to be "Southern", That appellation is normally used to describe those who live East of texas, but south of What is popularly called the "Mason-Dixon line" basically, south of the states of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana,and Illinois.

navyson
02-17-2009, 04:33 PM
In America, Texans are not generally considered to be "Southern", That appellation is normally used to describe those who live East of texas, but south of What is popularly called the "Mason-Dixon line" basically, south of the states of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana,and Illinois.
Maybe us Texans get lumped into the "southern" description by having fought with the Confederate States of America during the US Civil War. But I have considered myself to be a southerner. Except being born in Pennsylvania, then down here I'm considered Yankee.....gets complicated.:mrgreen:

Schuultz
02-17-2009, 04:37 PM
Well, I'm afraid the Americans are alone with that. It's the same as how Europeans refer to Americans as Yanks, whereas Americans refer to Northerners as Yanks.

And I agree, Dixie. As many poor opinions as people might have of Southerners (and I include Texans in this), every Southerner I have ever personally encountered was extremely friendly and easy to be around.

Nickdfresh
02-17-2009, 07:03 PM
Ah it makes more sense now. Well people having negative opinions of Southerners dates back to the formation of this country and I am sure will continue. As long as the majority of people that form these negative opinions of us have never been here it doesn’t bother me too much.

Oh and as far as not liking Southerners because of Bush, what about Clinton or Carter? They were both southerners. Hell im going to count Regan too, he thought he was a cowboy :lol:

This is true. In fact, you could say that Bush was a fabricated cowboy southerner as he was largely raised in Yankee, blue blood Ivy League New England and probably had more in common with Kerry and the Kennedy clan than he did with Roy Rogers...

Personally, I think hicks and red necks are people who lack education and any sort of interest in getting any. And there are plenty of those everywhere...

The irony being is that the term "red neck" comes from union coal miners that wore red scarves and were socialists in many cases...

Dixie Devil
02-18-2009, 10:23 AM
This is true. In fact, you could say that Bush was a fabricated cowboy southerner as he was largely raised in Yankee, blue blood Ivy League New England and probably had more in common with Kerry and the Kennedy clan than he did with Roy Rogers...

Personally, I think hicks and red necks are people who lack education and any sort of interest in getting any. And there are plenty of those everywhere...

The irony being is that the term "red neck" comes from union coal miners that wore red scarves and were socialists in many cases...

Actually Bush wasn't much of a fabricated cowboy, hell he was born in Connecticut. Other southern states are not a strict but in Texas your not a true Texan until your a third generation Texan.

Nick the definition of "redneck" is one thing that causes some misunderstandings. See what y'all (I had to throw a y'all in there :lol: ) call a redneck is called a hick or just white trash down here. To us a redneck is just simply people who do things like hunt, fish, and ride four wheelers. Stuff like that. And by our definition I proudly claim to be a redneck

Hicks or white trash to us are the people that are broke, trashy, living in the trailer park, married to there cousin, and with no education or desire to get one. You know, the mental picture of what most people think southerners are and I can’t deny that there are *some* down here. That is a redneck by everyone else’s standards but not to us so of course southerners get all riled up about being misunderstood.

Dixie Devil
02-18-2009, 10:33 AM
Well, I'm afraid the Americans are alone with that. It's the same as how Europeans refer to Americans as Yanks, whereas Americans refer to Northerners as Yanks.

And I agree, Dixie. As many poor opinions as people might have of Southerners (and I include Texans in this), every Southerner I have ever personally encountered was extremely friendly and easy to be around.

Well it is nice to know there are still some people that actually meet people from regions before judging the entire group based on stereotypes. Though I should warn you, we still are a bit touchy about people calling us Yanks. It may not get you shot with a 1860 Colt Army anymore :lol: but you will be clarified on your mistake. It is about the same as mistakenly calling someone from Scotland or Northern Ireland English.

herman2
02-25-2009, 09:05 AM
From Toronto Star Newspaper.......
COLUMBIA, S.C. – The South Carolina sheriff who investigated Michael Phelps after he was photographed smoking from a marijuana pipe is joking about the uproar it caused, but standing by his decision to probe the superstar swimmer.

Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott wore a bulletproof vest to guard against "pot shots" at a Rotary Club speech this week that combined good humour with a sober warning about illegal drugs.

"It doesn't matter if it's Michael Phelps or who it is. If you break the law, you've got to be held to the same standard," Lott said during the Monday speech. "That's what the law's all about."

In a video posted on the (Columbia) State newspaper's website, Lott responded point-by-point to much of the criticism he heard. In response to claims that he was going after Phelps for publicity, he said he turned down interview requests from Jay Leno, Geraldo Rivera, Diane Sawyer and Larry King.

"If I wanted 15 minutes of fame, I could have got about 35 hours if I wanted to," he said. But, he decided, "This wasn't about publicity. This wasn't about me. It was about what was doing right."

Lott initially said he would look into the Olympic swimmer with 14 gold medals after a British tabloid published a picture of him smoking from a marijuana pipe at a party in Columbia last November. Last week, the sheriff announced there was not enough evidence to charge Phelps, who acknowledged using "bad judgment" after the photo appeared.

.....so what pisses me off about this is that the Sherrif has got nothing better to do then probe some guy who smoked a joint. is there no murders or rapists that this Sherrif can probe?. What is he going to do?, bug Phelps phone, intercepr his emails and speak to his neighbours if Phelps is operating a gro-op?.Jeesh!..Give the guy a frigin break already. Why do we spit on the heroes of our country when they do minor stupid things like smoking a joint. the Guy won zoodles of Gold Medals for America. Why defame him over bullshit. The Sherrif is going to look into this Big crime with a fingerdusting kit cause he thinks he is the Sherrif saviour of the world.
if an American vet who saved children from a burning building and carried fellow soldiers to safety away from flying bullets and bombing; was to smoke a joint afterwards; would the police arrest him and charge him, and invest a 10 man team of investigators to look and probe into his illegal activities??...My God, Sherrif, get a Life! Its only a frigin joint; Leave the superstar alone and let him eminate the glory that America represents and do not belittle him with nuisance crap. If Phelps was Canadian, the toronto Police would have been joining him in smoking a joint, instyead of investigating him, for this so called heinous crime. Oh brother!

Nickdfresh
02-25-2009, 09:25 AM
What pisses me off?

Idiots who take cellphone pics of people at a party when they're not hurting anyone else...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8YTKu9D7o8

Joe Rogan, American comedian, weighed in on the Kelloggs corporation's firing Phelps as a sponsor...

http://blog.joerogan.net/archives/454?%3F

Schuultz
02-25-2009, 02:22 PM
Yeah, one can only hope for him that he never hangs with that douche again.

RifleMan20
02-25-2009, 10:53 PM
That would defenitly piss me off if I was Phelps but you know what really pisses me off, people on a forum that ruin it for the others cough "colonel hogan, nazi kid, someone else that I can't think of at the moment" cough.

Rising Sun*
02-26-2009, 06:31 AM
People who don't insure their houses and then expect to have them rebuilt at public expense after a predictable event, such as a bushfire in a bushfire area, demolishes their house.

Or just a housefire in a housefire area, being an area where there is a house and things like fat fires on stoves, electrical faults, melting computer screens, sparking ceiling fans, kids with matches, and so on can cause fires.

If you gamble that you can save a few hundred bucks a year on insurance and then lose your house, then you should just live with it when you lose the gamble.

This whinge has been provoked by public discussion / demands here that uninsured bushfire victims should have the rebuilding of their houses funded out of public donations and / or public funds.

Having donated a useful sum to the Red Cross bushfire relief fund, if they use it to fund rebuilding uninsured houses then that will probably be the last time I give anything to any disaster charity, at least without knowing exactly to what they're going to apply it.

Dixie Devil
02-26-2009, 06:40 AM
Ah now you see why I stopped giving money to the American Red Cross. I know the Red Cross does lots of good things but when they started showing up at planned protest marches and handing out free food and water I had enough.

I donated money to them to help with disaster relief, not to help out at planned events because people may be thirsty or hungry. :evil:

Rising Sun*
02-26-2009, 07:12 AM
Ah now you see why I stopped giving money to the American Red Cross. I know the Red Cross does lots of good things but when they started showing up at planned protest marches and handing out free food and water I had enough.

I donated money to them to help with disaster relief, not to help out at planned events because people may be thirsty or hungry. :evil:

Which leads us into the next level of "Exactly where did my charity money go?".

I gave to one of the major international relief organisations for the tsunamai disasters.

Apart from the absence of a receipt for or other response to my rather substantial credit card payment by internet (they apparently being so busy that they could only set up systems to receive money but not receipt or acknowledge it :confused:) :rolleyes: ), I have no idea where the money went. And, given what I've read since, there's a bloody good chance that my money went somewhere else, and perhaps on funding some professional relief organisation fat cat(s) quartered in five star hotels while attending conferences attended by other fat cats on relieving poverty in the Third World etc etc, which they could do a sight more effectively if they spent their money on helping the people who need it instead of talking endlessly about how they're going to help them, some day.

I knew all about the corruption in the charity industry before I gave for the tsunamai.

What really pisses me off is not that I probably wasted my money when I should have known better but that some bloated turd or turds plus a few spunky turdettes wasted it attending a conference in some flash location when the money wasted on that could have re-built a dozen villages in Indonesia or Thailand or wherever with disease-free water systems and other improvements to make the inhabitants' lives safer, which is the sort of thing I wanted my money used for.

Dixie Devil
02-26-2009, 11:50 AM
Yep another perfect example of why I stopped donating money. People look at me like I am just the most terrible person on the planet when I refuse to donate to those types of things but until my money actually goes to people that need it I will just continue to be the jack @$$ that "doesn't care about other peoples' suffering"

herman2
02-27-2009, 09:58 AM
Which leads us into the next level of "Exactly where did my charity money go?".

I gave to one of the major international relief organisations for the tsunamai disasters.

Apart from the absence of a receipt for or other response to my rather substantial credit card payment by internet (they apparently being so busy that they could only set up systems to receive money but not receipt or acknowledge it :confused:) :rolleyes: ), I have no idea where the money went. And, given what I've read since, there's a bloody good chance that my money went somewhere else, and perhaps on funding some professional relief organisation fat cat(s) quartered in five star hotels while attending conferences attended by other fat cats on relieving poverty in the Third World etc etc, which they could do a sight more effectively if they spent their money on helping the people who need it instead of talking endlessly about how they're going to help them, some day.

I knew all about the corruption in the charity industry before I gave for the tsunamai.

What really pisses me off is not that I probably wasted my money when I should have known better but that some bloated turd or turds plus a few spunky turdettes wasted it attending a conference in some flash location when the money wasted on that could have re-built a dozen villages in Indonesia or Thailand or wherever with disease-free water systems and other improvements to make the inhabitants' lives safer, which is the sort of thing I wanted my money used for.

cough cough, sucker...cough cough...sorry I can't type when im couging , will try later......;)

tankgeezer
02-27-2009, 11:23 AM
RS, its better to be charitable, even if it means being deceived on occasion. Sandra Bullock upon learning of the disaster, gave a million USD and may have had no thought but the good of the victims. (as you did) . Giving without expectation shows that you, and Bullock have little fear. That is a trait not commonly found in today's world. After 9-11, everyone here, (kids too) donated to the different funds, some folks to all of them. There is no way really to account for the huge sum of money, but no one cared, it was the intention of helping those who were hurting that was important.

herman2
02-27-2009, 12:16 PM
RS, its better to be charitable, even if it means being deceived on occasion. Sandra Bullock upon learning of the disaster, gave a million USD and may have had no thought but the good of the victims. (as you did) . Giving without expectation shows that you, and Bullock have little fear. That is a trait not commonly found in today's world. After 9-11, everyone here, (kids too) donated to the different funds, some folks to all of them. There is no way really to account for the huge sum of money, but no one cared, it was the intention of helping those who were hurting that was important.


Ya, Good Boy, Good Boy, it is better to give than it is to receive. Tank boy say's it so eloquently....Corenthesis Pslams 2:Chapter 6, Verse-7.
We should all give and feel happy about it when we find out we get ripped off, because it doesn't always happen and we must think positive. Like Deepak Chopra and Anthony Robins say; it is divine within the heart to forsake the corruption we know not of. Good work my Boy, please continue to help those that are in need, despite the fact that news articles around the world continueousl;y report how much the directors of the Charity's make, because we shouldn't care. Give Give and be happy
Investigation: 13 Cents Of Every $1 Donated Goes To Charity
POSTED: 6:53 pm EST November 6, 2007
UPDATED: 11:05 pm EST November 6, 2007

CLEVELAND -- A 5 On Your Side investigation revealed that a group raising millions of dollars for veterans, only gives them just 13 cents of every dollar donated.
Investigator Ron Regan uncovered who's getting rich off the donations that were supposed to be helping American veterans.
More than 1 million veterans, like Jim Bores, live in Ohio.
"It meant a whole lot. You had a very deep sense of duty. I want you to understand that," said Bores.
In return, Ohioans opened their hearts and their wallets to support veterans' charities. But a 5 On Your Side undercover investigation found that while millions of people think they are donating to a local charity, instead they are making some other people rich.
It all started with one call to a home from a call center doing business with the Disabled Veterans Associations in Parma Heights.
NewsChannel5 said it was not the Disabled American Veterans (DAV) who pride themselves on a 100-year track record of helping. This is the DVA –- Disabled Veterans Associations -– and tax returns show it raised $5 million in 2005. But $4,492,340 never reached veterans like Pat Hansen, Regan reported.
"Nobody has to be a genius to figure this out. That's appalling," said Hansen, a World War II veteran.
Regan said people like Michael Coley, the founder of the Disabled Veterans Associations, got the money.
Records revealed that Coley once paid himself $100,000 from donations. And at one time, he served six months in prison for selling unregistered securities and theft, Regan reported.
He said the charity Coley founded raised millions of dollars that never reached veterans.
Regan tracked Coley down on a golf course.
"Don't you think that's a little excessive to pay yourself a $100,000?" Regan asked.
Coley responded saying, "Not for the work I did, no."
But Regan reported that even after he left the Disabled Veterans Associations, Coley still profited off the donations.
Coley's ex-girlfriend, Pamela Seman, runs the charity now. Tax returns found in Regan's investigation showed a $14,000 donation from the Disabled Veterans Associations to Coley's new charity, conveniently located in an office just a few feet away.
"Do you think that's what donors think is going on here?" Regan asked. "Do you think that's right?"
"There's nothing wrong with that," Coley said.
"What did you use it for?" Regan asked.
"I paid myself. I hadn't been paid for a couple of months," Coley said.
Seman didn't want to talk to Regan about the money either.
"OK, this interview is over," Seman said.
"Why would you give $14,000 to your boyfriend’s charity?" Regan asked.
"I didn't give anything to my boyfriend's charity. I represented the organization, you can talk to Dawn who works with me here. I did not give my boyfriend anything," Seman said.
But the group that really makes the big money is Civic Development Group, Regan reported. CDG is a telemarketing firm located just south of New York City, and its founders own multimillion dollar homes in Florida and New Jersey.
Regan reported that the Disabled Veterans Associations in Parma Heights paid CDG almost every penny donated in fundraising fees.
But when 5 On Your Side went undercover at CDG's Canton call center, the station was told "100 percent goes to the Disabled Veterans Associations."
So Regan tried to get some questions answered on camera.
"We want to ask you a couple of questions about your fundraising," Regan said.
"We have no comments, we need you to leave the building," said representatives in Canton.
Little Raised Over Phone Goes to Charity
-------------------------------------------------
16 Dec 2008
A recent investigation by Des Moines Register in Iowa found that the vast majority of donations raised by phone or mail by professional fundraisers winds up in the hands of professional fundraising companies.

These are some of the findings of the Register's examination of more than 80 professional fundraisers serving more than 500 charities:

- The median percentage of proceeds that wind up with a charity is about 24 percent, and just five charities received more than 75 percent of the proceeds from fundraising campaigns.

- One fundraiser, Aria Communications, reported charging nonprofits more than the company raised last year.

Nickdfresh
02-27-2009, 12:30 PM
Ya, Good Boy, Good Boy, it is better to give than it is to receive. Tank boy say's it so eloquently....Corenthesis Pslams 2:Chapter 6, Verse-7.
We should all give and feel happy about it when we find out we get ripped off, because it doesn't always happen and we must think positive. Like Deepak Chopra and Anthony Robins say; it is divine within the heart to forsake the corruption we know not of. Good work my Boy, please continue to help those that are in need, despite the fact that news articles around the world continueousl;y report how much the directors of the Charity's make, because we shouldn't care. Give Give and be happy
Investigation: 13 Cents Of Every $1 Donated Goes To Charity
POSTED: 6:53 pm EST November 6, 2007
UPDATED: 11:05 pm EST November 6, 2007

CLEVELAND -- A 5 On Your Side investigation revealed that a group raising millions of dollars for veterans, only gives them just 13 cents of every dollar donated.
Investigator Ron Regan uncovered who's getting rich off the donations that were supposed to be helping American veterans.
More than 1 million veterans, like Jim Bores, live in Ohio.
"It meant a whole lot. You had a very deep sense of duty. I want you to understand that," said Bores.
In return, Ohioans opened their hearts and their wallets to support veterans' charities. But a 5 On Your Side undercover investigation found that while millions of people think they are donating to a local charity, instead they are making some other people rich.
It all started with one call to a home from a call center doing business with the Disabled Veterans Associations in Parma Heights.
NewsChannel5 said it was not the Disabled American Veterans (DAV) who pride themselves on a 100-year track record of helping. This is the DVA –- Disabled Veterans Associations -– and tax returns show it raised $5 million in 2005. But $4,492,340 never reached veterans like Pat Hansen, Regan reported.
"Nobody has to be a genius to figure this out. That's appalling," said Hansen, a World War II veteran.
Regan said people like Michael Coley, the founder of the Disabled Veterans Associations, got the money.
Records revealed that Coley once paid himself $100,000 from donations. And at one time, he served six months in prison for selling unregistered securities and theft, Regan reported.
He said the charity Coley founded raised millions of dollars that never reached veterans.
Regan tracked Coley down on a golf course.
"Don't you think that's a little excessive to pay yourself a $100,000?" Regan asked.
Coley responded saying, "Not for the work I did, no."
But Regan reported that even after he left the Disabled Veterans Associations, Coley still profited off the donations.
Coley's ex-girlfriend, Pamela Seman, runs the charity now. Tax returns found in Regan's investigation showed a $14,000 donation from the Disabled Veterans Associations to Coley's new charity, conveniently located in an office just a few feet away.
"Do you think that's what donors think is going on here?" Regan asked. "Do you think that's right?"
"There's nothing wrong with that," Coley said.
"What did you use it for?" Regan asked.
"I paid myself. I hadn't been paid for a couple of months," Coley said.
Seman didn't want to talk to Regan about the money either.
"OK, this interview is over," Seman said.
"Why would you give $14,000 to your boyfriend’s charity?" Regan asked.
"I didn't give anything to my boyfriend's charity. I represented the organization, you can talk to Dawn who works with me here. I did not give my boyfriend anything," Seman said.
But the group that really makes the big money is Civic Development Group, Regan reported. CDG is a telemarketing firm located just south of New York City, and its founders own multimillion dollar homes in Florida and New Jersey.
Regan reported that the Disabled Veterans Associations in Parma Heights paid CDG almost every penny donated in fundraising fees.
But when 5 On Your Side went undercover at CDG's Canton call center, the station was told "100 percent goes to the Disabled Veterans Associations."
So Regan tried to get some questions answered on camera.
"We want to ask you a couple of questions about your fundraising," Regan said.
"We have no comments, we need you to leave the building," said representatives in Canton.
Little Raised Over Phone Goes to Charity
-------------------------------------------------
16 Dec 2008
A recent investigation by Des Moines Register in Iowa found that the vast majority of donations raised by phone or mail by professional fundraisers winds up in the hands of professional fundraising companies.

These are some of the findings of the Register's examination of more than 80 professional fundraisers serving more than 500 charities:

- The median percentage of proceeds that wind up with a charity is about 24 percent, and just five charities received more than 75 percent of the proceeds from fundraising campaigns.

- One fundraiser, Aria Communications, reported charging nonprofits more than the company raised last year.

Um, you can clearly research a charity on several rating factors as to the tooth to tail of how much of your money gets into the hands that need it...and if you are going to post such articles, YOU NEED to post links so we can show what made up, hyperbolic crap they are!

herman2
02-27-2009, 12:53 PM
http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=513478

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22188895/


http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/11071516.asp?gid=244

http://www.neoperspectives.com/charity.htm

http://www.surreycomet.co.uk/news/4154028.Charity_worker_Keith_Brown_steals_from_the _blind/

Brisbane man charged over alleged bushfire charity www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/12/2489310.htm
Victoria bushfires 'charity collector' charged with www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25040158-661,00.html
Utah Charity Leader Charged With Fraud http://philanthropy.com/news/philanthropytoday/5152/utah-charity-leader-charged-with-fraud

The Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) has commenced proceedings against Mr Anthony Keith Kelly, of Lawnton, Queensland, in relation to three charges of fraud involving more than $500,000. http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/asic.nsf/byheadline/05-284+Wollongong+charity+manager+charged+with+fraud? openDocument
Supreme Court Rules Charity May Be Charged With Fraud http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9502E6DD113CF935A35756C0A9659C8B 63
Charity director charged
http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2000/02/08/charitychrg000208.html




WHat are you calling my comments crap?...If you think Charities are so great then fine, give all your money to them, but the view of this thread that it is better to give than worry about fraud is not going down well with me. Too many goody 2 shoes with no backbone to see through the corrupt charities who always seem to have directors that get paid more than you and me combined because they ripp off our donations to get paid high on the hog. If Charity Directors were so concerned about helping the needy then why do they always need to get paid $200,000 a year??..because they like to rip us off, er correction, rip me off, because there obviously not ripping you off because you don't have a problem with it. Hymph!

herman2
02-27-2009, 12:59 PM
http://ydr.inyork.com/ci_11545409
Charity paid its leaders $2.5 million
One guy got 2.5 million dollars as director of a Charity.....but WHo Cares, because we shouldn't let this bother us. I guess the fact that he got paid 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS is just hyperbolic crap . Hymph!

tankgeezer
02-27-2009, 02:50 PM
Quote by Herman:"Ya, Good Boy, Good Boy, it is better to give than it is to receive. Tank boy say's it so eloquently....Corenthesis Pslams 2:Chapter 6, Verse-7.
We should all give and feel happy about it when we find out we get ripped off, because it doesn't always happen and we must think positive. Like Deepak Chopra and Anthony Robins say; it is divine within the heart to forsake the corruption we know not of. Good work my Boy, please continue to help those that are in need, despite the fact that news articles around the world continueousl;y report how much the directors of the Charity's make, because we shouldn't care. Give Give and be happy
Investigation: 13 Cents Of Every $1 Donated Goes To Charity"

Herman, my post was a response to R.S.'s post,and while it is a board for general posting I was not inviting you to make judgments about it. No need to explain Herman, I'm not interested. If all you can see in this is the money, you've already missed the point. I dont know if you are maybe socially awkward, off medication, or just trolling up some mischief, but rude responses, and judgmental attitudes will get you in trouble here.As it is, you are not welcome to respond to any post I make unless you stop being such a jerk.Finally, the name is Tank Geezer, the word boy is an appellation more suited to you.

Schuultz
02-27-2009, 02:58 PM
Woah, let's just calm down. I can understand why herman2 is frustrated, but at the same time I can also see your point that even if only a fraction of your donation goes to a good cause, that's better than nothing.

No need to jump at each others throat.

herman2
02-27-2009, 03:21 PM
Quote by Herman:"Ya, Good Boy, Good Boy, it is better to give than it is to receive. Tank boy say's it so eloquently....Corenthesis Pslams 2:Chapter 6, Verse-7.
We should all give and feel happy about it when we find out we get ripped off, because it doesn't always happen and we must think positive. Like Deepak Chopra and Anthony Robins say; it is divine within the heart to forsake the corruption we know not of. Good work my Boy, please continue to help those that are in need, despite the fact that news articles around the world continueousl;y report how much the directors of the Charity's make, because we shouldn't care. Give Give and be happy
Investigation: 13 Cents Of Every $1 Donated Goes To Charity"

Herman, my post was a response to R.S.'s post,and while it is a board for general posting I was not inviting you to make judgments about it. No need to explain Herman, I'm not interested. If all you can see in this is the money, you've already missed the point. I dont know if you are maybe socially awkward, off medication, or just trolling up some mischief, but rude responses, and judgmental attitudes will get you in trouble here.As it is, you are not welcome to respond to any post I make unless you stop being such a jerk.Finally, the name is Tank Geezer, the word boy is an appellation more suited to you.

I am glad you liked my response, because while you may be offended by my post, I am merely offering, what I think is offensive, which is/are Charities that rip us off and big fat Charity Directors that get paid oddles of money from my contributions, and yours. My response is not towards you and I have no interest in trolling with you, cause I have no beef with you. My opinion on charities is negative so that labels me as being on medication? Awkward?. You have your opinion and i have mine, but i did not go so far as to call you names.The term boy is a cute slang and I meant no offence by it. I only apologize for my slang and if you chose not to accept ot, then thats fine.I will not need an invitation to reply to your post so don't think I will ask nor sek it. nonetheless, if you find my comments about charity rip offs to be uncool or unfair then so be it, but don't call me names because I don't agree with giving to charities. And for the last time,I AM SORRY I CALLED YOU BOY, I agree it was a slang that was taken the wrong way, Sorry Sorry Sorry...but I am not sorry for my opiions on Charity cause in a free democratic society we are entitled to our opinions, and I believe, i quoted some links to support my view, which I hope may give my judgemental view some credibility.(I am in a rush to go home so excuse my typo mistakes. I have to rush home and take my MEDICATION and I find it Awkward to say this.god!

Rising Sun*
02-28-2009, 03:05 AM
RS, its better to be charitable, even if it means being deceived on occasion.

TG, it's not about being deceived. Large charities are huge corporations. Huge corporations, like governments, are inclined to engage in various forms of deception. I expect to be deceived by huge corporations and governments. I am surprised only when they don't engage in deception. I don't get surprised too often. ;)

My gripe is about donating funds to a charity for a specific purpose and not having the money applied to that purpose. Taking Dixie Devil's example, I'd be pissed off if the Red Cross used some of my bushfire money to provide drinks etc to protesters protesting about anything, whether or not I agree with their protest. If they're too stupid to bring their own drinks they deserve to be thirsty. It's not a charitable act to protect sane adults from the consequences of their own stupidity.

What seems to happen with many large charities is that money isn't necessarily applied to the purpose for which it was given, sometimes because the charity does not expend all the funds donated on that purpose even though there may have been things that still needed to be done. I regard that as unsatisfactory, but the charities will say that there are greater needs. Perhaps so, but that's not why I gave them the money, and I wouldn't have given them a cent for the other purpose they've chosen to apply it to.

On the other hand, I allow myself to be deceived when it suits me. Last Xmas I gave a goat, a pig, a bicycle, some chickens, some farming tools, immunisations, mosquito nets, education for girls, water and sanitation, and a few other bits and pieces to people in poorer countries through an aid organisation which lets you pick the items you want your money spent on. Read the fine print and it's the same as the other charities as there is no guarantee that the money will be applied to those items as some items may be oversubscribed. But it gives the donor a feeling of closer connection with what their money is being spent on, although really it's just a very clever marketing exercise by the charity.

The latter exercise raises an interesting moral issue, being: What entitles me to judge what I should give to those in need? Who am I to say that they should have a goat and not a sheep? Obviously the charity determines what is best in a given case, but sitting at my computer I'm engaging in something perhaps not far off life and death decisions for some people by selecting items from a catalogue and imposing my judgements on what people I don't know should have in circumstances I don't know.

Conversely, if this sort of targeted giving was guaranteed to get your money to purposes you want it spent on, or is quarantined from things you don't want it spent on, it might increase giving, such as by allowing people who disagree with birth control to give their money to a charity which funds birth control but also does other things.

Having said all that, about an hour ago I put a few more bucks towards the bushfire appeals in our local shopping village where a quintet of girls about ten years old started singing every time someone approached and stopped when they got money. Trust me, to shut them up it was money well spent. :D

tankgeezer
02-28-2009, 08:58 AM
Agreed, I know many large, organized charities are just grindhouses for money, with little getting to the intended beneficiaries. Being charitable should not equate to foolish.Thats why I do not give to them, Having a charitable heart is a good thing, but one needs to be sure the gift gets where its needed. (hush money for the singing petitioners is always well spent. :) ) My point was that even if one gets snagged for some dosh by a phoney, that it wouldnt jade them to the point of never again donating . Careful about giving goats, and chickens, in some societies that will get you a new Bride. (good luck explaining that one to the missus'. :shock: )

Rising Sun*
02-28-2009, 09:15 AM
Careful about giving goats, and chickens, in some societies that will get you a new Bride.

Which societies would they be?


(good luck explaining that one to the missus'. :shock: )

As I have the capacity to buy quite a few goats and chickens, if you tell me where I can swap them for shagadelic young things then, if it works out the way I'm planning in light of your helpful information, I'll be offshore and she'll be the former Mrs RS and I won't have to explain one bloody thing to her. :D

32Bravo
02-28-2009, 09:37 AM
My gripe is about donating funds to a charity for a specific purpose and not having the money applied to that purpose.

In the UK charitable donations are made to either restricted funds i.e. something which has been specifically identified for the fund raising, or to a general fund e.g. donate £2's a week to the RNIB.

Under various charities acts, any amounts raised for a restricted fund, if not used for that purpose, must be returned to the donator.


An example would be the Three Graces. About 5million was needed in order for this work to be purchased by the Victoria and Albert Museum (IIRC). They raised about four and a halff or something like that. Anyway, they hadn't raised enough funds, therefore, they put out an ad on the radio for all of the donators to contact them for their money back. The publicity from the ad generated the extra funding they needed in order to purchase the work.

http://srs.dl.ac.uk/arch/cost-g8/images/three-graces.jpg

tankgeezer
02-28-2009, 02:19 PM
Which societies would they be?



As I have the capacity to buy quite a few goats and chickens, if you tell me where I can swap them for shagadelic young things then, if it works out the way I'm planning in light of your helpful information, I'll be offshore and she'll be the former Mrs RS and I won't have to explain one bloody thing to her. :D

Off the top of my head, the Dani people of the highlands of New Guinea are one, Another would be the Igbo of Nigeria. There are a few others in Africa,and doubtless a good number of tribes in the Amazon Basin that would enjoy the goats&chickens. You may also want to include some pigs in the ark load, they like pigs alot too. Beads, and other types of jewelry items will go a long way as well, since most of these groups live off the land, something that is hand made is the only type of value added objects they may see. The raw materials are free in nature, so the effort to produce a usable item from them is why they are valued.Tools would also be a good gift for the respective in-laws, and extended families. (just dont take a load of Martini rifles along, you remember what became of Sean Connery in Man who would be king) :)

herman2
03-05-2009, 11:55 AM
What pisses me off is the price of Red Bull. I mean its almost $3.00 for a pewney can and Walmart offers it for only 40 cents cheaper. Why is it so dam expensive? In today's recession it should be cheaper. I don't know why I still but it but I do. It just seems unfair that I can buy 3 Laker beers for double the price of the tiny Red Bull. I think its a conspiricy or something!~

Schuultz
03-05-2009, 12:53 PM
It is ridiculously expensive here in Canada. Oddly enough, it's only a little bit cheaper in Germany, too. I wonder how much it costs in Switzerland...

But the main reason they can be so expensive is their name, really. There's plenty of copies out there that taste almost exactly like it.

pdf27
03-05-2009, 12:58 PM
Why is it so dam expensive?
How do you think they manage to afford two Formula 1 motor racing teams and and air racing series?

herman2
03-05-2009, 01:03 PM
Really? I never thought of it. I just read today that these high energy drinks have a vey high percentage of that material they find in plastic that may be cancerous. I think its called biosphyal..anyways, they say its below the guidelenes but extremely high compared to other cansned stuff. Also, I wish to point out that Red Bull with Vodka is the Bomb!!

Schuultz
03-05-2009, 01:07 PM
Oh 'Vodka Red Bull'... I can't even count how many alcohol poisonings I owe to that...:D

Tastes so good, but also so deceiving... One would thing that after the first 2 - 3 times I'd have realized that.
(In my defense, one time they didn't even tell me there was vodka in it. And because I had already been drinking a bit, I didn't even notice)

As for the Formula 1 racing team: They should definitely rename Red Bull in general to Toro Rosso. Sounds so much better.

jcompton
03-05-2009, 01:55 PM
Vodka and Redbull is very good. I also like the shot made with Jager and Redbull. But they are almost ten bucks at a bar around here.

pdf27
03-05-2009, 03:36 PM
As for the Formula 1 racing team: They should definitely rename Red Bull in general to Toro Rosso. Sounds so much better.
They can't do that - there already IS a Toro Rosso team, in addition to the Red Bull one. You can't have two teams with the same name!

flamethrowerguy
03-05-2009, 04:14 PM
Vodka and Redbull is very good. I also like the shot made with Jager and Redbull. But they are almost ten bucks at a bar around here.

Red Bull and Jägermeister has been the hit in clubs over here a couple of years ago (or is it still?). However I couldn't drink more than one of it without being in danger of a sugar shock.

Schuultz
03-05-2009, 04:33 PM
Yeah, there's also a thing called Jagerbombs that's the hit around here, atm.

You take a glass full of beer and drop a shot glass of jagermeister into it.

Nickdfresh
03-05-2009, 06:59 PM
You can do that with Guinness as well, using Irish whiskey of course...

jcompton
03-06-2009, 10:31 AM
You can do that with Guinness as well, using Irish whiskey of course...

Yea I"ve had that. I think they called it an Irish Car Bomb. Was very good, could only drink one tho.

BriteLite
03-10-2009, 01:15 AM
Charities that are con games have been discussed and that subject is my top ranked piss me off presently.

http://gpbnews.blogspot.com/2009/03/fbi-raid-on-food-charity-raises.html

Research will uncover the founder is a convicted criminal. He and his family have been fraudulently(my opinion) paying themselves nice salaries for years. What the article does not say is food goods are donated or purchased at heavy discount then SOLD to the needy for $25. Sounds ok but after inspecting the food for my church I found quality severely lacking. For instance, steak cuts contained much bone and in some cases were 50% fat. If put in a grocery display for sale only someone with poor eyesite would purchase. The whole family should be jailed.

Related to this is the avoidance of paying income taxes. In the State of Georgia(USA) anyone can register a non-profit corporation usually a church. You are not required to provide affiliation with another orginaztion. Lets call my church Britelite Ministries Inc. My address can be my home. I can appoint anyone officers(Myself,wife and 2 brothers). Now I setup a for profit business. Any or all income from the for profit is donated to the non profit becoming a 1 for 1 tax writeoff. All the donated funds are parceled as salaries for the officers. Both business' are now free form Federal and State income tax burdens. The officers are now responsible for personal income tax. But if I have a creative accountant all the employees become self employed and can take full benefit of itemized deductions. In the end nobody will pay income tax.

Don't believe me? I am personally aware of a family that does this. The father operates a business grossing almost $1 million dollars yearly. Generates about $600K in net profit. Neither he nor his family have paid income tax in the last 5 years.

Legal but morally wrong. Come to think of it the tax issue just moved up to number 1 on my pissed off list.

Disclaimer: Not my family. I pay my taxes dutifully every year.

herman2
03-10-2009, 07:35 AM
Right On!! I totally Agree with You!!.Charities are always paying fat cats to run their gig and the money you give goes for their private golf lessons. I am 1000% in agreement with you!!!

Schuultz
03-10-2009, 07:49 AM
I am 1000% in agreement with you

That's about 900% too much.

I am more prone to agree with 32Bravo's stance, that even if only 20 cents of each Dollar actually go for charity, it's better than nothing, though I agree that charity-fraud should be considered a major offense, as the people pretty much steal twice, once from you, and once from the people who should get it.

Rising Sun*
03-10-2009, 08:06 AM
That's about 900% too much.

Herman sometimes tends to understate his position. ;) :mrgreen:


I am more prone to agree with 32Bravo's stance, that even if only 20 cents of each Dollar actually go for charity, it's better than nothing

Not for me.

I accept that every organisation has running costs, but if I give a dollar to a charity I expect nearer 80 cents to reach the people who need it than 20 cents.

If an alleged charity is siphoning off 80% before my money gets to the people who need it then the charity isn't being run as a charity or for the benefit of the people who need it, but for the people who run it.

Which, oddly enough, sounds just like most major corporations run by the executives primarily for their benefit.

BAH!

Schuultz
03-10-2009, 08:15 AM
So what to do?

I got it! Buy Microsoft products. IIRC, Bill Gates has one of the biggest charities, with a higher annual output than the WHO's budget...

Say what you want about Microsoft's other policies, but at least the guy at the top realizes he has a certain amount of social responsibility.

Rising Sun*
03-10-2009, 08:24 AM
So what to do?

I got it! Buy Microsoft products. IIRC, Bill Gates has one of the biggest charities, with a higher annual output than the WHO's budget...

Well, Microsoft is a charity in its own way.

You donate money to an organisation which provides work for people who produce products which don't work all that well for poor people who have no choice but to accept Microsoft's charity in releasing its latest cocked-up piece of shit, which has only a few hundred thousand more faults and is twice as slow as the previous version it's supposed to be an improvement upon and is about ten times as likely to be hacked by a sub-normal troglodyte.


Say what you want about Microsoft's other policies, but at least the guy at the top realizes he has a certain amount of social responsibility.

Perhaps, but that doesn't translate into making his products work properly.

If he was making bombsights in WWII, half of the bombardiers would have been looking up their own arseholes and wondering why they were in the shit when they pressed the tit. The other half would have had the same view, but no risk as pressing the tit would have given an error message.

Schuultz
03-10-2009, 08:42 AM
They'd probably have to restart the engine in order for it to accept the change of opening the bomb shafts :D

Just imagine, flying on a bomber mission over Europe, you're about to drop the bombs, and suddenly a ****ing Paper Clip showed up next to you, and asked you if you needed help bombing Hitler. And when you click to close, it freezes...

Rising Sun*
03-10-2009, 08:52 AM
So what to do?

Seriously, be very selective and well informed about the charities to which we donate.

As a rough rule of thumb, the bigger and more international and more general they are, then the less likely they are to get more of your dollar to the intended source.

And the more local and focused on a specific form of relief they are, the more likely they are to get most of your dollar to the source.

But if they have titles like 'Kids for Cancer' or 'Cancer for Kids' and flog raffle tickets for cars in shopping centres, then almost none of your money will go past the shonks running it and, surprising though it may seem as has happened repeatedly here, the cars will be won by associates of the *****s running the raffle.

So, apart from the fact which a recent survey shows pisses off 87% of people that our knob government is now giving our bushfire donations to give increased benefits to those who didn't bother to insure their houses and lesser benefits to the mugs who have paid insurance for years, I'm about done with giving anything to charities because I'm sick of supporting the crooks who run them and the bludgers who benefit from them.

Heartless, I know, but I've given more than enough to buy a front row seat in The Heartless Bastard Show to see the least competent and most selfish fritter my money away on the least deserving for the least benefit to the most deserving.

BAH!

Schuultz
03-10-2009, 08:56 AM
Cancer for Kids

The only charity that works towards preserving cancer in children!

Rising Sun*
03-10-2009, 09:01 AM
Just imagine, flying on a bomber mission over Europe, you're about to drop the bombs, and suddenly a ****ing Paper Clip showed up next to you, and asked you if you needed help bombing Hitler. And when you click to close, it freezes...

That would work alright.

It'd be a lot better than the usual "You must restart your system" because you downloaded the latest target co-ordinates, followed by "loading ... 45 seconds ... 90 seconds ... four minutes .... seven minutes ... .... ..... ...... ..... .... ..... ..... ... ... .. ... ... .... .... .... ..... ..... ..... Ctrl Alt Del ----> 'System not responding.'

Rising Sun*
03-10-2009, 09:03 AM
The only charity that works towards preserving cancer in children!

Some charities give, others receive.

herman2
03-10-2009, 09:34 AM
Ok, Ok, well for those that like to give to Charity, here is a new twist on things. You give money and the Charity collects interest on it and stock piles your donation, over many years, instead of spending it. Give me a Frigin Break!. If I donated $1000 to the Heart and Stroke Charity, I would think that I would expect my money to be put to good use like research or medical exploration to prevent or cure heart disease, BUT NO, my money sits in their bank account collecting dust doing nothing, for many years and the Charity still demands more money!! Why the hell would I give to Charity when they have $130 MILLION DOLLARS already, and their too busy to spend it so they bank it. GIVE ME A BREAK. I am 900% confident that I would be better off spending my hard earned money on Beer rather than give it to some shyster charity that only puts it in the bank collecting it like a miser! I rest my case. Beer Wins, Charity loses.

http://www.thestar.com/printArticle/280925

Heart-stroke charity builds huge war chest

STEVE RUSSELL/TORONTO STAR FILE PHOTO
Cyclists are seen in Toronto during the 20th anniversary of the Becel Heart & Stroke Ride for Heart event to raise money for the Heart and Stroke Foundation.
Has $130 million in cash as fundraising continues
November 29, 2007
KEVIN DONOVAN
STAFF REPORTER

The Heart and Stroke Foundation of Ontario has a whopping $130 million war chest of donor dollars saved up over many years.
This is by far the largest buildup of savings by a Canadian charity that raises money in the name of a disease, and the charity continues to aggressively ask for more.
Heart and Stroke donors were dismayed to learn this news.
"When I give a dollar I expect it will be put to good use," said Joyce Brown, 67, of St. Catharines, a pensioner who annually gives $100 to the charity, often as memorial donations when a friend has died of heart disease, which also killed both of Brown's parents.
"It's hard for me to say that I am going to sacrifice my pension so they have more money to play with," Brown said in an interview. She will donate again when the charity has made a significant reduction to its reserves.
The charity's chief executive officer, Rocco Rossi, acknowledged his charity needs to spend more on good works. He said the board of directors has "internally restricted" a big chunk of the war chest (charity documents say more than $60 million) for increased spending on multi-year research efforts and other programs.
In a statement to the Star, the charity said these excess funds will be "dispensed on a yearly basis allowing the Foundation to hold recipients accountable and to ensure that milestones are met before they receive the next instalment."
Rossi still intends to fundraise. He's known for his personal pitches – such as riding a bike 1,900 kilometres from Rainy River to the foot of Yonge St. in Toronto and paddling a kayak from Toronto to Ottawa. Next February he aims to climb Seven Summits (tall buildings in Toronto) to raise $1 million for life-saving defibrillators to be placed in arenas and other buildings in communities around the province.
"I am desperate to raise dollars because heart and stroke is the No. 1 killer of Canadians," Rossi said in an interview.
Heart and Stroke could easily part with $1 million to buy those defibrillators today, but won't, preferring instead to ask the public for more money.
The charity raises about $120 million yearly, mainly from donations and lottery sales. Roughly half of that amount goes to fundraising, administration and other costs. The $60-65 million left over is available for good works, but, historically, large amounts have not been spent.
Rossi was hired in 2005, studied the issue for two years, then developed a plan that focuses on long-term medical research and campaigns aimed at reducing high blood pressure and improving the diets of Ontario residents.

Rising Sun*
03-10-2009, 09:49 AM
"When I give a dollar I expect it will be put to good use," said Joyce Brown, 67, of St. Catharines, a pensioner who annually gives $100 to the charity, often as memorial donations when a friend has died of heart disease, which also killed both of Brown's parents.
"It's hard for me to say that I am going to sacrifice my pension so they have more money to play with," Brown said in an interview. She will donate again when the charity has made a significant reduction to its reserves.

I'm with Joyce, except I'd never donate to that crew again.


"The charity raises about $120 million yearly, mainly from donations and lottery sales. Roughly half of that amount goes to fundraising, administration and other costs.

Bullshit!

Don't know what you folks up the top of the planet do, but down here at a local level we have have a sausage sizzle outside various major stores (which donate the space, all cooking equipment, tent and so on) to groups like the local scouts, Country Fire Authority, Salvation Army and so on who offer store customers a sausage in bread for a couple of bucks, which costs them about a quarter of that. Apart from the cost of the food, all the money raised goes to charity.

So, how come 100% at a local level can go to charity and only half goes to it when the big 'charities' get involved?

Because, obviously, they're just commercial corporations run like every other one for the benefit of the grasping *****s who run them.

Which is one of the reasons I ain't donating to them again.

herman2
03-10-2009, 10:06 AM
Bullshit!!!.. We all know on top of the planet here that you guys only put another shrimp on the Barbee, down there; and not sausage or hot dogs!..don't think you can fool me into thinking anything otherwise. I have seen Crocodile Dundee and his commercials for Fosters!..He always say's that he puts another shrimp on the Barbee, so thats a fact, we learnt about Australia, up here in the cold cold Siberian Canada!
P.S. Tomorrow it will reach 6 degrees high..I am so excited! It's almost like summer tomorrow..yipeee!!;)

Schuultz
03-10-2009, 10:22 AM
Ha, over here at the East Coast, we're already having 5 Degrees plus today!
Tomorrow snow and freezing rain
But then it's going to go up to 10 Degrees! I'll have to buy me some T-Shirts!

Neutral
03-10-2009, 11:52 AM
20ºC and going up, sorry m8s. :)

herman2
03-10-2009, 12:00 PM
20ºc and going up, sorry m8s. :)

bastard!! :):)

Neutral
03-10-2009, 12:52 PM
Tanned and warm bastard, please... :)

herman2
03-20-2009, 11:33 AM
I read in the paper today that our Ontario flags are made in China!..Well this pisses me off!
The flag represents what a nation stands for. I can’t imagine going to WAR and raising a flag of Canada with the logo Made In China on it!..If the flag is made in China, what next??..will our money be printed in China!!..For Christ sakes, I better start learning Chinese so I can be prepared when China takes over this planet!!

www.torontosun.com

New Democrat Peter Kormos literally wrapped himself in the flag yesterday after getting a shipment of Ontario Red Ensigns with a made-in-China tag on them.
"This just boggles the mind," the MPP from the struggling manufacturing town of Welland said yesterday.
"I can't give this flag away in the riding of Welland, so many workers have lost their jobs. I would have this flag thrown back at me, thrown at my face.
"It would be an insult for me to give this flag to any community group in Welland."
Kormos said he orders flags through the Ontario legislature every year and for the past 12, they've all come from Flying Colours International Scythes Inc., on Sterling Rd. in Toronto.
Last year the locally produced, 81x162 cm version cost him $18 a pop. The new, overseas version he just received cost $13 each, feels and looks thinner and less bright in colour and has a less well-rendered version of the province's venerated maple leaf cluster.
"This is shameful, it's embarrassing, it's pathetic, it's rude, it's insulting," Kormos said.
"I just have no possible way of expressing how frustrating and angry it is for me to discover this.
"I will be attempting to return these flags and I will once again be ordering from Flying Colours International. I encourage all the other MPPs to do the same."
Ontario's manufacturing sector has been savaged over the past four years, losing an estimated 300,000. Those numbers have accelerated in the past few months as the global recession takes its toll.
Sylvia Nemanic, executive director of administrative services for the legislature, said purchasing at Queen's Park is done strictly on the basis of the best price available, and that there hasn't been any "buy Ontario" preference for years.
"We take competitive bids and award it to the company with the most competitive bid," she said.
"That's what we would look for -- the price. We would not ask where they were made. We wouldn't specify that."
MPPs don't have to buy through the legislature if they choose not to, she said.
Karman Wong, a spokesman for Premier Dalton McGuinty, said the government doesn't tell the legislative assembly how to operate.
"This is not a decision made by the government and it's not something we support," she said.
"We make sure that the flags used for the premier's events are manufactured in Ontario."
Just last week, the Liberal government sternly rapped its lottery corporation's knuckles over a plan to give away luxury Mercedes-Benz cars, even as Ontario-based automakers tottered on the edge of bankruptcy.
Observers pointed out the Benzes are made with Hamilton steel, another struggling industry, but the optics of the situation forced the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corp. into retreat.
Speaker Steve Peters, who oversees the legislature operations, conceded the flags are a similarly charged issue.

Chevan
03-20-2009, 12:56 PM
The flag represents what a nation stands for. I can’t imagine going to WAR and raising a flag of Canada with the logo Made In China on it!..If the flag is made in China, what next...

Next will be the Chinas flag , rising over Ontario.

Churchill
03-21-2009, 04:40 PM
If China deploys to Canada, more specifically Ontario(Chevan, you would need one f**king HUGE flag to raise above all Ontario :)), I think Russia would be involved and down for the count. That, or an ally of China. :mrgreen:

Uyraell
03-21-2009, 06:43 PM
If China deploys to Canada, more specifically Ontario(Chevan, you would need one f**king HUGE flag to raise above all Ontario :)), I think Russia would be involved and down for the count. That, or an ally of China. :mrgreen:
Actually, oddly enough, I can see Russia coming in as an Ally, regardless of NATO.
Reason being, Russia certainly would not want to be surrounded on two sides, so to speak.
China is in manpower terms at least sufficient of a threat to Russia for Russia to Ally herself very rapidly with the Western nations.

Regards, Uyraell.

Uyraell
03-21-2009, 07:06 PM
Next will be the Chinas flag , rising over Ontario.
China is facing huge problems, some of which would be solved by a war.
Her easiest targets are the northwest, into Siberia and Kamchatka.
If China did attack Canada though, I think Russia would align with the Western nations.
Doing so would likely serve Russian interests to a greater degree.

That's just a personal view, but seems logical, in as much as, China would replace Japan as Russia's enemy in the east. There are usually (or were usually) minor clashes on the Russian/Chinese border yearly, when I was growing up.

Regards, Uyraell.

Schuultz
03-22-2009, 12:58 AM
That's just a personal view, but seems logical, in as much as, China would replace Japan as Russia's enemy in the east. There are usually (or were usually) minor clashes on the Russian/Chinese border yearly, when I was growing up.

Regards, Uyraell.

Well, but when you were growing up, they were two Communist dictatorships fighting for the leadership of the communist world. Now it's one communist dictatorship and one phony republic.
But you're right, Russia would be better served if they allied themselves with the West, just think about how much money they're making through their Exports - almost all of which goes to Western nations!

Uyraell
03-22-2009, 01:37 AM
Well, but when you were growing up, they were two Communist dictatorships fighting for the leadership of the communist world. Now it's one communist dictatorship and one phony republic.
But you're right, Russia would be better served if they allied themselves with the West, just think about how much money they're making through their Exports - almost all of which goes to Western nations!
Ja, du hast Recht!
That was why I took the view, I do, in part.
For Russia, NATO is in effect an "old fear", whereas China is a never ending fear.
And make no mistake here: while the west has always somewhat daftly feared Russian expansion, Red China will eventually have no choice BUT to expand, which goes a VERY long way to explaining Russia's attitude towards China, since Russia is the easiest and logical target of said expansion. This is a fact long known in Russia, predating the Revolution.

Regards, Uyraell.

Schuultz
03-22-2009, 10:02 AM
Here's my view (completely etic, so if any Russians want to comment, please keep that in mind):

Putin's Russia wants to get closer to the West. In a way, it wants to achieve the same position it had in the 19th century, before the Communist revolution: A dominating player in World Politics with a sphere of influence over Eastern Europe and the Eurasian nations (Kazakhstan, Kirghistan, etc), however, still close to the Western nations in trade and culture.

Allying itself with a nation like China or North Korea might have been in the interest of the Soviets and their spread of Communism, but it would be very counterproductive to the modern Russia, as they do no longer share a common political system. Also, getting too close to those nations would force them to move away from the Western nations, on which a lot of Russia's economy is based now. I can't see the Russian elite supporting Putin in policies that would endanger their newly found wealth. And without the support of his Upper Class, even the almighty Putin would have a hard time governing...

Uyraell
03-22-2009, 02:26 PM
Here's my view (completely etic, so if any Russians want to comment, please keep that in mind):

Putin's Russia wants to get closer to the West. In a way, it wants to achieve the same position it had in the 19th century, before the Communist revolution: A dominating player in World Politics with a sphere of influence over Eastern Europe and the Eurasian nations (Kazakhstan, Kirghistan, etc), however, still close to the Western nations in trade and culture.

Allying itself with a nation like China or North Korea might have been in the interest of the Soviets and their spread of Communism, but it would be very counterproductive to the modern Russia, as they do no longer share a common political system. Also, getting too close to those nations would force them to move away from the Western nations, on which a lot of Russia's economy is based now. I can't see the Russian elite supporting Putin in policies that would endanger their newly found wealth. And without the support of his Upper Class, even the almighty Putin would have a hard time governing...

Das ist stimmt.
And I certainly agree.
To my eyes, Russia is trying to regain the 1903-04 style of influence and prestige it had in the west.
The rest of your analysis follows as corollary.

However, Red China does have serious problems facing it, and those are things Mao and his early associates could not have foreseen.
Those problems could in theory push China into a conventional war with the west. I don't see China employing nukes, for the simple reason that there are at least three nuclear armed nations that would be likely to retaliate.

Thank god this is a gen off topic tho, because we're a long way off topic.:mrgreen:

Russia would be far better to not worry itself over NATO, and in fact Join it.
Reason being that the western nations have no great wish to expand eastwards, and would rather have Russian cooperation in defence matters than antithemy.

Regards, Uyraell.

Schuultz
03-22-2009, 03:52 PM
Didn't Russia try to join NATO at one point? I think they were blocked off, partially because the entire idea of NATO was a network that would protect nations from Russia, so it would be weird if they were part of it...

Uyraell
03-22-2009, 05:22 PM
Didn't Russia try to join NATO at one point? I think they were blocked off, partially because the entire idea of NATO was a network that would protect nations from Russia, so it would be weird if they were part of it...
True. And wiser heads than mine can go into detail over it.
However, Nato too can change it's focus, and to a large degree, should do so.
After all, (arguably) the Russia Nato was formed in response to is no-longer the same Russia that the modern world lives alongside.
We in the west keep saying we want the Russians to be our friends, but we then still keep them at arm's length, and don't truly give them the chance to interact with us.

How then, is the Russian populace supposed to interpret that behaviour, and what is the Russian leadership likely to conclude from it?

The west cannot continue to have it both ways. If Russia IS to be a friend to the west then the west too needs to alter its' perceptions and behaviours, or pay the eventual price of Russia feeling as alientated as certain elements of the Arab world, for example.

Frankly, I'd rather the west dealt Russia a fair hand, and stop trying to treat her as European only when it suits us, and as Oriental at any other time. If we are to live with Russia, then we need to treat her fairly, and not as some odd cousin, so to speak.

Regards, Uyraell.

herman2
03-23-2009, 12:47 PM
It pisses me off that there are goody two shoes peoples out there that believe in giving to charity because it makes them feel better. Get real people! Now I have more proof of the corruption inbread with our charity system. It just never ends. The corruption and scandal is rampant.Why give to Charity?.Rather Keep the economy going by buying Beer with the money you would have given to charity. If you give it to Charity, chances are, that some other jerk is going to buy beer with the money you donate, so why piss your money down the toilet.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:92O_2iohWiMJ:fathersforlife.org/actions/unitedway.htm+united+way+charity,+corruption&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=caThe Toronto Star reports:

Billions lost in charity scandal
One in six spends a lot, gives a little
KEVIN DONOVAN
STAFF REPORTER

More than 12,000 Canadian charities — almost one in six — spend more money on fundraising and administration than they do on charitable work, a Star investigation reveals.
Some are well-meaning but inefficient, while others run blatant scams preying on the public with aggressive, often abusive, fundraising tactics.
These troubled charities, all federally registered, spent a total of $10.5 billion of donor money on fundraising and administration in 1999 but contributed just $1.9 billion to charitable works. That's 15 cents on the dollar. (Full Story)
The article identifies that since 1999, the number of Canadian charities has grown:
Today [Nov. 2002], there are 79,000 charities in Canada, with about 1,000 new ones registered by federal authorities each year. On average, the approval time is just one month. In 1999, the most recent year for which electronic data are available, Ottawa's charity database held 73,000 organizations.

Feb. 6, 2002. Toronto Star
Abused-women charity skimmed $1MKevin Donovan

STAFF REPORTER

A charity claiming to support abused women and children was actually a scam that put most of the $1 million it raised into the pockets of its directors and their companies, an Ontario judge has ruled.

The National Society for Abused Women and Children has been stripped of its right to collect donations.

In passing judgment, Mr. Justice Ernest Loukidelis of the Ontario Superior Court of Justice said he was shocked at how easy it was for a charity to dupe the public.

According to auditors for the Ontario Public Trustee, only $1,365 of $1 million the National Society raised ever went to charitable works.

"The ability and swiftness by which the main principals (of the Society), or indeed anyone acting within the system, can extract from trusting citizens a large amount of money is rather stunning," Loukidelis stated in a Jan. 28 ruling.

Thousands of unsuspecting people donated to the National Society for Abused Women and Children, which claimed to offer domestic violence counselling, a crisis line and a library. None of that was true. Most of the money went to fundraising agencies related to the charity’s directors.

"The whole operation was a scheme whereby charity was used as a cover to raise money for the benefit of the (fundraising) agency," the judge said. He recommended that the federal government require charities to tell the public exactly what portion goes to charitable uses.

The Public Trustee took the National Society to court after a series of Toronto Star stories exposed the charity’s operations. The case against it was not a criminal action. Instead, the Trustee sought an order to stop the Society’s operations.

National Society founder Ronald Perrin had admitted in an interview with The Star that his charity was providing none of the services it told the public it was offering. He also told The Star that almost none of the money raised was going to charitable works, although he hoped that would change in five years when the organization was more established.

In his ruling, the judge lauded the Star’s "vigilance" for making the matter public.

The National Society for Abused Women and Children was first granted a charitable number from Canada Customs and Revenue in 1999.

Its application consisted of a brochure, an outdated list of shelters to which it planned to contribute, and a promise to donate at least half of funds raised to shelter work. With 70,000 charities in Canada, the federal agency does little checking.

Based in a Newmarket office, Perrin and associates sent canvassers into neighbourhoods across Ontario with a simple pitch about the plight of abused women and children in Ontario. If pressed, canvassers would tell prospective donors that some of the funds would go to a particular shelter.

The scheme began to unravel a year later, when a canvasser appeared at the door of the executive director of a legitimate domestic violence shelter. The canvasser said the organization was raising money on behalf of that shelter, which the executive director knew to be wrong. The shelter contacted The Star.

"A distinct odour emanates from the facts of this case," Mr. Justice Loukidelis stated.

He noted that neither founder Perrin nor associates Heather Dobbs and Don Corriero have any background or expertise in dealing with abuse of children or women.

The National Society raised money using three fundraising companies, each of which took about 80 per cent of funds raised to cover expenses, a share that, "if known, is bound to shock the conscience of any citizen," the judge stated.

The directors had affiliations with at least two of the agencies, and also took expense account money from the charity.

The judge ordered the directors to repay all money received from the charity if the Public Trustee demands it.

Perrin and his colleagues did not return calls yesterday.

herman2
03-26-2009, 09:17 AM
Ok, now what pisses me off is how these old people always tend to win the lottery. this guy who is almost 100 wins 4 million dollars. I mean, like whats he going to do with it? Give it to CHARITY probably, and then its the charities who will swindle his win or bank it and collect interest on it, while somebody who is young could have won it and used it . i just don't understand first of all, why someone who is like the age of Moses is playing the lottery in the first place. Every day I read about people old as a prune winning big on the lottery, and i never win. maybe I'm jealous, but it pisses me off...At least this old crouton was a WW2 Vet, so I will at least Salute him for his service to his country!



http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2009/03/26/8887066-sun.html

OAKVILLE -- This win was almost a century in the making.
Maurice Ducharme, 90, claimed a $4.4-million lottery prize Tuesday -- making him one of the oldest Lotto 6/49 winners in the game's history. But, not surprisingly, Ducharme told the Sun he's felt a whole lot younger since the win.
"I feel pretty young," he joked at his house yesterday. "It really helps you."
Shortly after quietly accepting the cheque for $4,448,017 in downtown Toronto, Ducharme went to the bank to cash the jackpot.
"It really felt good," he said. "It's hard to explain the feeling you get, it's magnanimous."
He learned of the win Sunday when he started checking the numbers he has played off and on since 6/49 started.
"I said to my son, Paul, 'I got it, I got it,' " Ducharme said, recalling the moment. "I've been trying for years but it never happened."
The Second World War veteran and retired Ford supervisor says he'll use his multi-millions to live a good life.
"I have been living a fair life so far," he said.
The Oakville father of four and grandfather of eight bought the winning ticket in town at the Hopegate Mall's Lottery Stop.
Although he plans to share the jackpot with his family there is one person he wishes he could share it with -- his wife, Pauline, who died two years ago.
"I miss her terribly," Ducharme said. "Especially at times like these."
With the winning draw happening on the same day as his late mother's birthday, he can't help but wonder if he got some heavenly help.
"I don't know if she had anything to do with it," Ducharme said. "Between her and my wife maybe they cooked something up."
The Windsor native was 22 when he went to war with the Canadian army. He spent five years fighting in France, Belgium, Holland and Germany. He came back to Canada and worked as a supervisor at Ford in Windsor and Oakville.
Ducharme won't be quitting his day job -- he retired in 1975.
"Now I won't have to cut the grass or anything anymore," he chuckled.
He's got some travel under his belt but wants to ramp it up with trips to Barbados and Florida.
Ducharme, who still drives, may replace his car with a new Ford Mustang.
Despite the win, Ducharme found time to fit in one old habit. He headed down to the Lottery Stop to make sure he had his ticket for last night's draw. At his age, why worry about pushing your luck?

Schuultz
03-26-2009, 10:10 AM
Well, he can't take his money into the Grave with him, so I guess he'll have a lot of very friendly and supportive family members for the rest of his life...:D

Joel109
03-27-2009, 04:39 AM
Far left morons, liberals, and democrats make me sick.

Rising Sun*
03-27-2009, 04:41 AM
Far left morons, liberals, and democrats make me sick.

Do you want to put a capital D on democrat, or are you just hostile to people who support democracy?

herman2
03-31-2009, 10:14 AM
Ok, so like I'm reading the Newspaper about George Galloway and I wonder, Why Does AMERICA allow this guy in their Country and Canada doesn't?? hello??...If the guy is such a threat then I assume we have better Terrorisim laws to protect us then America? This doesn't make sense. The guy is giving a speech in New York City. I don't understand why America allows this guy in their country when Canada choses not to allow him to enter Canada. America should be the one that is more stricter, not Canada! Wake up America!

http://news.sky.com/skynews
Canada blocked Mr Galloway from entering the country on national security grounds earlier in March, saying he provided money to Hamas, a banned terrorist organisation in Canada.
Federal Court Justice Luc Martineau denied a request for an emergency injunction to allow the British MP in to begin a speaking tour of the country.
Mr Galloway is well known for his ardent opposition to the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.
Earlier this month, he was awarded an honorary Palestinian passport in a secret meeting with prime minister Ismail Haniyeh, a senior Hamas figure.
Canadian immigration minister Jason Kenney has said those who support, promote and help terrorist organisations should not visit the country.


Galloway hugs Ismail Haniyeh in Gaza
A spokesman for Mr Kenney said Canadian border officials made the decision on the grounds Mr Galloway was a national security threat.
The government declined to overturn the decision because of his financial support for Hamas, Alykhan Velshi said.
In a letter to Mr Galloway, the government said he had delivered humanitarian goods to war-torn Gaza and gave $45,000 (£31,500) to Hamas.
Judge Martineau said in a written ruling he is not willing to exempt Mr Galloway from Canada's immigrations laws.
Tour organiser James Clark said the British MP will not attempt to enter Canada because he has no intention of breaking the law.
Instead, he said Mr Galloway will deliver video speeches to the Canadian cities Mississauga, Ontario, Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa this week from a studio in New York.
Mr Galloway has denied suggestions he supports terrorism, insisting he gave money and aid to help the people of Gaza, not for terrorism.
"I am not a supporter of Hamas," he said. "But I am a supporter of democracy."

Dixie Devil
03-31-2009, 10:31 AM
Well for starters, here in the States we have a group of very well funded morons who collectively call themselves the ACLU and their job is to find legal means to block common sense. In this case I am sure they would scream discrimination. To them the fact that he has ties to a terrorist group is superseded by the fact that he should have the same full rights as any citizen.

They also do lovely things like sue for illegal immigrants right to stay in this country and file lawsuits against airports for searching Arab men boarding airplanes despite the fact that the given people are acting suspicious.

herman2
03-31-2009, 10:44 AM
Well for starters, here in the States we have a group of very well funded morons who collectively call themselves the ACLU and their job is to find legal means to block common sense. In this case I am sure they would scream discrimination. To them the fact that he has ties to a terrorist group is superseded by the fact that he should have the same full rights as any citizen.

They also do lovely things like sue for illegal immigrants right to stay in this country and file lawsuits against airports for searching Arab men boarding airplanes despite the fact that the given people are acting suspicious.

Ya, I hear you!....We got this case now in the courts about this woman who insists she wear the Niqa (not sure of spelling) but its the thing that covers your entire face so only your eyes show) in court!...Well as you knowm one of the premises of our Democratic laws, is that the Accuser has the right to see his victim and vice versa, in court.....so this woman, who doesn't even wear the Niqa on her own time, CHOOSES to insist she be allowed to wear it, on religious grounds in court.....and if the judge refuses then he can be sued based on freedom of religious practice!...What is this world coming too!!!!This doubly pisses me off!!!!...

Schuultz
03-31-2009, 12:35 PM
Religion shouldn't be above the Rule of Law. The fact that she's allowed to wear it in court (obviously to hide her identity) is ridiculous.
The court is above the religion, the most they should possibly do is ban reporters/pictures from the courtroom, but not more.
If she has committed a crime and stands in court for it, she should have to face the consequences, no matter what her religion may be.

Dixie Devil
03-31-2009, 01:03 PM
Yep that is something that the ACLU would be supporting if that was in the States.

Right now in my state the ACLU is fighting a bill that would require voters to so some sort of identification before voting in elections. Now the obvious reason for this would be to help curb people from voting under the names of deceased people but according to the jack @sses at the ACLU having to show id before you vote is discrimination against minorities and the poor....how they even manage to make that type of claim I don't know but since they are so well funded and stocked full of lawyers they will probably defeat the law. :evil:

Schuultz
03-31-2009, 01:20 PM
American (male) cops with no hair.

Why are men with hair on their heads excluded from police service in America?

I think that has more to do with a certain amount of American Militarism.

Dixie Devil
03-31-2009, 03:43 PM
:lol: Of all the cops I know very, very few have shaved heads. Even most of the cops that are ex military have hair but maybe the ones that do shave their heads do it because they got used to it in the service.

Or maybe they are like me and just enjoy not having to deal with hair on your head and it keeps your head much cooler in the summer
(and no i am not a cop:D)

herman2
04-07-2009, 01:35 PM
It happens everytime I pick up the paper. ANOTHER Charity SCAM!...and for all those Bone Heads out there that believe in giving to Charity, I hope you continue to give, because without you, there would be no con artists in this world.
Someone once said…Every minute, there is a Bone Head born…and that Bone Head is the bleeding heart goody Two shoe people out there.

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/apr/06/090406kelly-denies-selling-toys-witch-hunt/?metro

April 6, 2009
SAN DIEGO — A 73-year-old San Ysidro woman accused of selling thousands of donated toys for personal profit proclaimed her innocence Monday at the steps of the downtown Hall of Justice.
Virginia Kelly, who is charged with grand theft and embezzlement, spoke briefly at a news conference held by her two attorneys.
When asked how she felt about the accusations, Kelly said, "I feel OK because I'm not guilty of anything. I'm innocent."
Authorities seized more than 11,000 toys from Kelly's home, a storage unit and her daughter's home in Chula Vista. She was arrested April 1 at her home and has pleaded not guilty.
Investigators said she collected about 1,700 toys per year for the past five years from the Marine Corps Toys for Tots program and the Child Abuse Prevention Foundation, then gave about half of them to foster parents for their children and kept the rest to sell for profit at garage sales.
Attorney Michaela Curran, who stood beside Kelly, said the items not donated were in poor condition and not usable. They included expired medicine, expired baby food, broken toys and dolls without arms and legs, she said.
The items not donated were "properly kept in a storage unit," Curran said. Some were kept in a rented unit at Kelly's daughter's house, Curran said.
"The only thing she's guilty of is being 73 years old and getting a little bit overwhelmed with the number of toys and things to be distributed," Curran said.
When asked why she kept the items instead of disposing of them, Kelly said, "I didn't have time."
Curran called the charges a "witch hunt" by the District Attorney's Office and said that the case "makes for a good story."
Kelly, president of the Latino Foster Parents Association, had about two dozen supporters standing behind her as she spoke.
She reiterated that she did not sell any toys or have anyone help her sell them.
"I never sell anything," Kelly said.

Rising Sun*
04-10-2009, 08:22 AM
Buzz words. (Ignoring the fact that the term was itself a buzz word when introduced into the language in the 1980s)


1. Iconic.

I am at the point of vomiting every time some journalist refers to something as 'iconic'.

The world isn't big enough to hold all the icons those drones accord the title 'iconic'.


2. Going forward.

Can't anyone in public life construct a sentence without that phrase in it?

I amuse myself at compulsory meetings and so on by writing down how often some ****head uses 'going forward' and its derivatives.

I do this very intently, so people think I am taking bullshit presentations seriously. I am, but not as intended.

(I did the same in the 1980s when the equally pointless phrase substituted for UMM was 'moving on'.)

Schuultz
04-10-2009, 09:05 AM
I've rarely ever heard 'Going Forward' as a replacement for 'Moving On'. I hear the latter one at leas 20 times a day, though - One would think that the Professors are into a certain routine by now.

I hate it when people try to be so annoyingly politically correct and say 'Happy Holidays' instead of 'Merry Christmas'.

That just pisses me off...