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pdf27
12-03-2008, 02:54 PM
First they were accused of not wanting to fight. Then they were blamed for failing in their main mission to train the Afghan police.

Now Germany’s battered military reputation has received a further humiliating blow. According to official reports the 3,500 troops in northern Afghanistan drink too much and are too fat to fight.

A German parliamentary report has revealed that in 2007 German forces in Afghanistan consumed about 1.7 million pints of beer and 90,000 bottles of wine. During the first six months of this year 896,000 pints of beer were shipped to German forces in Afghanistan. British and US bases in the country enforce a strict ban on alcohol.

The physical condition of the soldiers was already in question after a German armed forces report found that 40 per cent of its soldiers aged 18-29 were overweight, compared to 35 per cent of the civilian population of the same age.

The report, published in March, concluded that the Bundeswehr lived on beer and sausages while shunning fruit and vegetables. It said that an overdeveloped bureaucracy was also contributing to a “passive lifestyle” on the part of the soldiers.

Reinhold Robbe, the parliamentary commissioner for the German armed forces, concluded: “Plainly put, the soldiers are too fat, exercise too little and take little care of their diet.”

“Yes, it is true, the German soldiers in Kunduz are allowed to drink two cans of beer per day,” Lieutenant-Colonel Rainer Zaude, a spokesman for the forces, confirmed.

Even more damning is the allegation from a senior officer that Germany is failing in its main mission to train the Afghan police. General Hans-Christoph Ammon, the commander of the special commando unit, the KSK, described the efforts as “a miserable failure”.

The Government is also reported to have banned any reference to Krieg (war), in press statements on Afghanistan. Caveats imposed by the German Government limit the forces to operations in the relatively passive north.

Twenty-eight German soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan since 2001, including two in a suicide bomb attack in Kunduz province last month.

German Tornado aircraft are limited to unarmed reconaissance

German Medevac helicopters have to be back at base by dusk

German forces limited to the northern areas of the country where there is a lower level of fighting (though the level of fighting there is now beginning to change)

US forces have been very frustrated by the caution of German rules of engagement - German troops operating alongside US forces have refused to open fire on occasion for fear of causing civilian casualties.

A trial is currently underway in the German courts following an incident in which German soldiers opened fire on a car that approached a checkpoint believing it contained a suicide bomb - several civilians died in the incident.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5277034.ece

flamethrowerguy
12-03-2008, 03:40 PM
See? I had my reasons for not joining when it was my time....

Panzerknacker
12-03-2008, 04:37 PM
A German parliamentary report has revealed that in 2007 German forces in Afghanistan consumed about 1.7 million pints of beer and 90,000 bottles of wine


That is just to cure the homesick.:)

Good report by the way.

Kovalski
12-03-2008, 05:22 PM
Was there any explanation or reason why they were officially allowed to drink so much?

Panzerknacker
12-03-2008, 05:50 PM
I suppose is a old custom in the german army, but not everybody drink beer as you see here :mrgreen:

http://kotare.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/05/german276.jpg

navyson
12-04-2008, 08:07 AM
"A trial is currently underway in the German courts following an incident in which German soldiers opened fire on a car that approached a checkpoint believing it contained a suicide bomb - several civilians died in the incident."

They are on trial for defending themselves? Unbelievable!

P.S. I thought Americans were the "fat ones":mrgreen:
Maybe it's the southern Germany cooking;)

herman2
12-04-2008, 10:38 AM
Its not McDonalds that is doing it...its the Shnitzel! I love it!

Panzerknacker
12-04-2008, 05:33 PM
Maybe it's the southern Germany cooking


Hmmm. delicious, honestly the quantity of wine consumed according to the report is still amazing, I am a wine lover so I already know which is the best army to sign in :mrgreen:

http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/18727/99858/f/655071-Knackwurst-und-bier-0.jpg

By the way I find something related in the infamous The sun tabloid.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article577388.ece?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News

flamethrowerguy
12-04-2008, 05:35 PM
I just read an article about german frigate "Mecklenburg-Vorpommern" which was able to prevent a pirates' attack on german cruise liner "MS Astor" in the Gulf of Oman by machine gun fire (sighted or unsighted I don't know).
At least the german Navy seems to be halfway sharp...

navyson
12-04-2008, 05:39 PM
Hmmm. delicious, honestly the quantity of wine consumed accoding to the report is still amazing, I am a wine lover so I already know which is the best army to sign in :mrgreen:

http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/18727/99858/f/655071-Knackwurst-und-bier-0.jpg

By the way I find something related in the infamosu The sun tabloid.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article577388.ece?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News
Yum! Making me hungry, especially just getting home and wanting supper!:)

navyson
12-04-2008, 07:27 PM
I just read an article about german frigate "Mecklenburg-Vorpommern" which was able to prevent a pirates' attack on german cruise liner "MS Astor" in the Gulf of Oman by machine gun fire (sighted or unsighted I don't know).
At least the german Navy seems to be halfway sharp...
That's sad if the navies are starting to accompany the cruise ships around. I would say "yeah...kriegsmarine!" but apparently the German government has banned the use of the word "krieg".

Firefly
12-10-2008, 06:25 AM
I suppose is a old custom in the german army, but not everybody drink beer as you see here :mrgreen:

http://kotare.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/05/german276.jpg

Yes, he looks like more of a wine man!