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aly j
10-06-2008, 09:00 PM
Where they a big part of the Allies?

Churchill
10-06-2008, 09:21 PM
Mostly in North Africa. The famed Rats of Tobruk were an Aussie unit. Most of the Dardanelles troops in WWI were ANZAC in the beginning, then they were somewhat replaced by regular troops. I may be wrong on some of that, so, you know, don't take this as law... ;)

aly j
10-07-2008, 12:02 AM
Mostly in North Africa. The famed Rats of Tobruk were an Aussie unit. Most of the Dardanelles troops in WWI were ANZAC in the beginning, then they were somewhat replaced by regular troops. I may be wrong on some of that, so, you know, don't take this as law... ;)

Hey i knew i was right about an aussie unit being called Rats bye Rommel.
Thats Winston Churchill :D

Rising Sun*
10-07-2008, 03:44 AM
Where they a big part of the Allies?

No. .......

aly j
10-07-2008, 07:39 AM
No. .......

Have i tamed the Rising Sun already!:D

Rising Sun*
10-07-2008, 07:51 AM
Have i tamed the Rising Sun already!:D

No.

You are just pissing me, and others, off with your idiotic trolling posts which, I suspect, you won't be indulging in much longer in view of your negative contribution to the board.

And your question merely confirms my suspicion that you are associated with someone else on the board whose principal contributions are feigned stupidity; generating conflict; and playing stupid games with other members without contributing anything of value to the historical, fun or any other threads on the board.

aly j
10-07-2008, 08:10 AM
No.

You are just pissing me, and others, off with your idiotic trolling posts which, I suspect, you won't be indulging in much longer in view of your negative contribution to the board.

And your question merely confirms my suspicion that you are associated with someone else on the board whose principal contributions are feigned stupidity; generating conflict; and playing stupid games with other members without contributing anything of value to the historical, fun or any other threads on the board.
Oh really,so youre telling me my ww2 history book in front of me right now, which i use for my information is wrong. :D And you accused Herman and i ,of being the same person, Whats wrong with you, and how do you know who put that information on the internet of ww2, it could of been anyone, with ww2 books its real, so how does the internet gets its information from?

Rising Sun*
10-07-2008, 08:26 AM
Oh really,so youre telling me my ww2 history book in front of me right now, which i use for my information is wrong.

What's the title?

"The Little Golden Book of WWII" (or "How 'The Little Engine That Could' Smashed the Panzers")? Or "The How and Why Wonder Book of WWII"?

Tell us what the title is of this magnificent book that is the source of your vast knowledge on WWII, kitten.


so how does the internet gets its information from?

As this may be a severe shock to you, please be seated and take a deep breath before reading further.











Any idiot can post anything on the interet.

And, alas, far too often do.

navyson
10-07-2008, 08:31 AM
Oh really,so youre telling me my ww2 history book in front of me right now, which i use for my information is wrong. :D And you accused Herman and i ,of being the same person, Whats wrong with you, and how do you know who put that information on the internet of ww2, it could of been anyone, with ww2 books its real, so how does the internet gets its information from?

Aly, how about quoting the source from which you have gotten information. If you have the book in front of you, name it when you post information from it. Such as: Germany attacked France. Source: German Military Records Volume 1. Then people can see and verify your sources, and maybe even read the same book.

aly j
10-07-2008, 08:32 AM
What's the title?

"The Little Golden Book of WWII" (or "How 'The Little Engine That Could' Smashed the Panzers")? Or "The How and Why Wonder Book of WWII"?

Tell us what the title is of this magnificent book that is the source of your vast knowledge on WWII, kitten.



As this may be a severe shock to you, please be seated and take a deep breath before reading further.











Any idiot can post anything on the interet.

And, alas, far too often do.
And where are you getting youre information from the internet?
Youre ww2 information could of came from Idiots. Cheers

Rising Sun*
10-07-2008, 08:48 AM
Youre ww2 information could of came from Idiots. Cheers

Which information would that be?

Or are we going to see more ducking and weaving?

BTW, in case you haven't realised what's going on between us tonight, I'm just taunting you to encourage you to respond with more crap to demonstrate why it's time that the mods dropped the hammer on you for being a troll, and you're playing right into my hands.

So now you are confronted with the dilemma of responding to me and dropping the trapdoor on your own gallows or shutting up and proving my point. Either way, you could end up doing us all a favour by not posting any more crap, kitten.

aly j
10-07-2008, 09:00 AM
Which information would that be?

Or are we going to see more ducking and weaving?

BTW, in case you haven't realised what's going on between us tonight, I'm just taunting you to encourage you to respond with more crap to demonstrate why it's time that the mods dropped the hammer on you for being a troll, and you're playing right into my hands.

So now you are confronted with the dilemma of responding to me and dropping the trapdoor on your own gallows or shutting up and proving my point. Either way, you could end up doing us all a favour by not posting any more crap, kitten.
The information that every one is using to proof there point. Where does it come from? Do you know where? The crap that you are going on about is that what you are talking about. What point are you talking about.
Ive got 30 third rench hitler books , 1 ww2 book and the history channel- docomentries at home - Why would i put fake information up there. I just think you men dont want a girl to out class you sometimes so you all say im wrong.

Rising Sun*
10-07-2008, 09:00 AM
Aly, how about quoting the source from which you have gotten information. If you have the book in front of you, name it when you post information from it. Such as: Germany attacked France. Source: German Military Records Volume 1. Then people can see and verify your sources, and maybe even read the same book.

Mate, she (claims to be a she, but who knows?) is just playing games.

She can't quote from her book because her book is in her room.


I didt really have a ww2 book with me, its in my room and most of my information came from the History channel. #82 at http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?p=137993#post137993

Ranks with "The dog ate my homework."

She (supposedly she) is playing another game which has nothing to do with what most of the rest of us are here for.

The time is long past to take her seriously.

aly j
10-07-2008, 09:09 AM
Mate, she (claims to be a she, but who knows?) is just playing games.

She can't quote from her book because her book is in her room.

#82 at http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?p=137993#post137993

Ranks with "The dog ate my homework."

She (supposedly she) is playing another game which has nothing to do with what most of the rest of us are here for.

The time is long past to take her seriously.
I actually read my books not in front of the computer. Im here for ww2 but you men hate the thought of a girl sometimes out smarting you guys.If i was a man why would i pretend to be a young female, and do you want me too type some information out of my book so i can proof it to you.

navyson
10-07-2008, 09:13 AM
I actually read my books not in front of the computer. Im here for ww2 but you men hate the thought of a girl sometimes out smarting you guys.If i was a man why would i pretend to be a young female, and do you want me too type some information out of my book so i can proof it to you.
No offense aly, but I don't think you've outsmarted anyone on here, gender notwithstanding. As for quoting sources, that's what you should have been doing this whole time.

Rising Sun*
10-07-2008, 09:22 AM
do you want me too type some information out of my book so i can proof it to you.

Yes.

Start with the title, author, publisher, place of publication, date of publication, (they're up the front of that collection of paper between the harder things called covers) and show how it proves that Germany had only 3,000 more soldiers than Britain at the start of WWI.

We're waiting.

Or will this be more ducking and weaving like your inability to post a link to prove earlier points because you don't know how to post a link, FFS!, kitten?

aly j
10-07-2008, 09:26 AM
No offense aly, but I don't think you've outsmarted anyone on here, gender notwithstanding. As for quoting sources, that's what you should have been doing this whole time.

Well thats what u think,i made a coment about aussies being called Dersert rats by rommell ,but i got my head blowen off maybe 5 days are go.
Today i made a thread : the anzacs: and guess what one of the members said- The Desert Rats was one of the Aussie units, what the hell is going on here. And i will start using the internet source if some one tells me were it comes from first. And i wish i was a man cause i would of been respected.Females know about ww2 aswell as you men do.

Rising Sun*
10-07-2008, 09:33 AM
Well thats what u think,i made a coment about aussies being called Dersert rats by rommell ,but i got my head blowen off maybe 5 days are go.
Today i made a thread : the anzacs: and guess what one of the members said- The Desert Rats was one of the Aussie units, what the hell is going on here. And i will start using the internet source if some one tells me were it comes from first. And i wish i was a man cause i would of been respected.Females know about ww2 aswell as you men do.

Ducking and weaving, darling, just ducking and weaving.

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4673/gradeabullshitalerttrannz5.gif

navyson
10-07-2008, 09:41 AM
Well thats what u think,i made a coment about aussies being called Dersert rats by rommell ,but i got my head blowen off maybe 5 days are go.
Today i made a thread : the anzacs: and guess what one of the members said- The Desert Rats was one of the Aussie units, what the hell is going on here. And i will start using the internet source if some one tells me were it comes from first. And i wish i was a man cause i would of been respected.Females know about ww2 aswell as you men do.
I'm not trying to "blow your head off", I'm just trying to help so you don't get broadsided all of the time. Using internet sources is usually easy, just be prepared to read a lot. For instance: I wanted to find out what ship my dad was on in ww2, so I typed in the name of the ship on Yahoo search and google search. Lots of web sites came up that had information regarding the ship. I went to the websites that looked like they had good information and found out a lot about the ship and its activities during the war. If you're interested in a topic, type it in and start searching. I've told you before that it's great to see women on this site because most women aren't even remotely interested in ww2 or any war for that matter. Respect has nothing to do with being man or woman on this site, it's about knowledge in what you're discussing. (That's why you don't see my name popping up in a lot of these threads, I try to read and learn before entering in.) But you need to tell your source when you get info from the internet just as you should from books.

aly j
10-07-2008, 09:41 AM
Ducking and weaving, darling, just ducking and weaving.

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4673/gradeabullshitalerttrannz5.gif

its no use talking about youre self. You got a bit worried before when you thought i had ww2 history book in front of me. Why did you get worried?
Did you think youre information was wrong?
The information that members use to proof there point, who puts it up there.
Histroians?i just want to know. dont call me darling,thats another one i like being called.

Rising Sun*
10-07-2008, 09:50 AM
its no use talking about youre self. You got a bit worried before when you thought i had ww2 history book in front of me. Why did you get worried?
Did you think youre information was wrong?
The information that members use to proof there point, who puts it up there.
Histroians?i just want to know. dont call me darling,thats another one i like being called.

All doubt has been removed.


http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2056/trollsprayvv0.jpg

navyson
10-07-2008, 10:00 AM
I'm not trying to "blow your head off", I'm just trying to help so you don't get broadsided all of the time. Using internet sources is usually easy, just be prepared to read a lot. For instance: I wanted to find out what ship my dad was on in ww2, so I typed in the name of the ship on Yahoo search and google search. Lots of web sites came up that had information regarding the ship. I went to the websites that looked like they had good information and found out a lot about the ship and its activities during the war. If you're interested in a topic, type it in and start searching. I've told you before that it's great to see women on this site because most women aren't even remotely interested in ww2 or any war for that matter. Respect has nothing to do with being man or woman on this site, it's about knowledge in what you're discussing. (That's why you don't see my name popping up in a lot of these threads, I try to read and learn before entering in.) But you need to tell your source when you get info from the internet just as you should from books.
Try again.

aly j
10-07-2008, 10:04 AM
I'm not trying to "blow your head off", I'm just trying to help so you don't get broadsided all of the time. Using internet sources is usually easy, just be prepared to read a lot. For instance: I wanted to find out what ship my dad was on in ww2, so I typed in the name of the ship on Yahoo search and google search. Lots of web sites came up that had information regarding the ship. I went to the websites that looked like they had good information and found out a lot about the ship and its activities during the war. If you're interested in a topic, type it in and start searching. I've told you before that it's great to see women on this site because most women aren't even remotely interested in ww2 or any war for that matter. Respect has nothing to do with being man or woman on this site, it's about knowledge in what you're discussing. (That's why you don't see my name popping up in a lot of these threads, I try to read and learn before entering in.) But you need to tell your source when you get info from the internet just as you should from books.Why you being so nice to me? Thanks but i know how to look on the internet for ww2 information, the problem is how do i get the information on 2 my post, and is the internet trussfull. Yeah i know i think its me and D502 are the only girls here,i think D502 is a girl. I read a book or watch a docomentrie than put the information on the post and most times people are down my throat, its not like im making up the information. cheers

aly j
10-07-2008, 10:06 AM
All doubt has been removed.


http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2056/trollsprayvv0.jpg

You got worried cause you knew i had real information. i think you need to spray youre self

navyson
10-07-2008, 10:23 AM
Why you being so nice to me? Thanks but i know how to look on the internet for ww2 information, the problem is how do i get the information on 2 my post, and is the internet trussfull. Yeah i know i think its me and D502 are the only girls here,i think D502 is a girl. I read a book or watch a docomentrie than put the information on the post and most times people are down my throat, its not like im making up the information. cheers
Well, I'm just trying to be helpful. You live too far away for any other motives!:D As for posting internet sources, I'll have to PM you. (You have to use advanced reply). It's plain and simple, you read a book and post information then quote your source like Rising Sun said. I suppose for documentaries, quote what documentary the information came from. Lot's of them can be viewed via internet for other people to see where you got your info.

aly j
10-07-2008, 10:32 AM
Well, I'm just trying to be helpful. You live too far away for any other motives!:D As for posting internet sources, I'll have to PM you. (You have to use advanced reply). It's plain and simple, you read a book and post information then quote your source like Rising Sun said. I suppose for documentaries, quote what documentary the information came from. Lot's of them can be viewed via internet for other people to see where you got your info.
I dont know how to quote information,I see members with proof with there post, But i dont know how to do that,Ive never been a computer wizz as you can see.

navyson
10-07-2008, 10:55 AM
I dont know how to quote information,I see members with proof with there post, But i dont know how to do that,Ive never been a computer wizz as you can see.
Aly, check your Private Messages, sent you some info.

aly j
10-07-2008, 11:11 AM
Yes.

Start with the title, author, publisher, place of publication, date of publication, (they're up the front of that collection of paper between the harder things called covers) and show how it proves that Germany had only 3,000 more soldiers than Britain at the start of WWI.

We're waiting.

Or will this be more ducking and weaving like your inability to post a link to prove earlier points because you don't know how to post a link, FFS!, kitten?
Here you go R/S- Hitlers Third Reich- Volume1 -30
Publisher- Stan Morse.
Produced by midsummer ltd.
Published by bright star publishing
Web site http://www.hitlersthirdreich.co.uk Cheers.

aly j
10-07-2008, 11:14 AM
Yes.

Start with the title, author, publisher, place of publication, date of publication, (they're up the front of that collection of paper between the harder things called covers) and show how it proves that Germany had only 3,000 more soldiers than Britain at the start of WWI.

We're waiting.

Or will this be more ducking and weaving like your inability to post a link to prove earlier points because you don't know how to post a link, FFS!, kitten?And how i found out about germany had 3000 more than england,i got information on here from a another member.

navyson
10-07-2008, 11:15 AM
Here you go R/S- Hitlers Third Reich- Volume1 -30
Publisher- Stan Morse.
Produced by midsummer ltd.
Published by bright star publishing
Web site http://www.hitlersthirdreich.co.uk Cheers.


That's the way to do it!

herman2
10-07-2008, 11:19 AM
No.

You are just pissing me, and others, off with your idiotic trolling posts which, I suspect, you won't be indulging in much longer in view of your negative contribution to the board.

And your question merely confirms my suspicion that you are associated with someone else on the board whose principal contributions are feigned stupidity; generating conflict; and playing stupid games with other members without contributing anything of value to the historical, fun or any other threads on the board.

Hey Hey Hey...I hope your not implying nor insinuating in any capacity that I am involved with your witch hunt against Aly J. Do not put my fine name nor honor in disrepute. I know what your implying and I read it before in other threads. I know you didn't mention my name but I read between the lines. Leave me out of this RS. You can PM the new Admin on your witch hunt if it makes you happier, but i am my own person, once and for all, and don't associate me with Aly J. If you have problems with her then thats fine, but keep my name out of this, once and for all. Although I am happy to see that at least one other new member has difficulty in comprehending your intolerance to freedom of speech. In a democracy we have the right to free speach. Good luck with your witch hunt and remember:Be Nice

aly j
10-07-2008, 11:31 AM
To R/S for you- WW2 IN PHOTOGRAPHS,-dont let the name fool you.
Imperial War Museum
Aurther- Richard Holmes.
2000 Carlton Books liminted.

Churchill
10-07-2008, 03:10 PM
Ok... Now... Everybody STFU! I don't want to hear it. Aly, please stop posting topics every other half hour. RS* and others... Just stop. That's enough.

herman2
10-07-2008, 03:27 PM
Mr.Churchill, you are a gentleman. I will do my part as I do not wish to create any static within this forum. I apologize for any disruption of the forum enjoyment. I am subsequently in agreement that this has to be stopped. As you had so eloquently stated, RS has to Stop it!

Churchill
10-07-2008, 05:47 PM
No. Not only RS*. Him, Aly J, and some others. All of them. Stop NAO!!! Lol.

aly j
10-07-2008, 11:22 PM
No. Not only RS*. Him, Aly J, and some others. All of them. Stop NAO!!! Lol.

Churchill, where you meaning Him RS or Him Aly-J, im a Her.
I just thought of something, I think RS and I have started ww3. hehehe
Cheers.

Rising Sun*
10-08-2008, 07:12 AM
Ok... Now... Everybody STFU! I don't want to hear it. Aly, please stop posting topics every other half hour. RS* and others... Just stop. That's enough.

The choices are to let ali j crayon all over the walls with his / her nonsense to drown the forum in crap, which seems to be his / her sole mission here, or to challenge his / her endless vacuous posts.

Whether or not I or anyone else respond to him / her, the board will still be covered in plenty of his / her crap.

At least if people challenge him / her, less informed members (of whom there has been an astonishing plethora in recent weeks) and guests might grasp that, as a source of reliable military history information, he / she is not.

The only person who needs to stop is ali j, but at about seven zillion empty head posts a day there doesn't seem to be much prospect of that as, as Jung's Second Law of Cretinism states, the momentum of an idiot in a vacuum continues to accelerate until the brain collides painfully with reality.

Iron Yeoman
10-08-2008, 08:16 AM
and STOOPPP! Apply safety catches and unload!

If anyone is interested in discussing the Anzacs and not bickering I have a few thoughts;

One Anzac formation that had a significant impact in the war in North Africa was the 2nd New Zealand division they were the first to break through on Operation Supercharge (2nd El Alamein). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_El_Alamein

Use the link to look at a generic history of the battle.

Addmittedly a large proportion of the division were Brits, the reason being however, that the Kiwis had taken so many casualties in previous actions. Still an impressive fighting unit all the same.

Rising Sun*
10-08-2008, 08:54 AM
One Anzac formation that had a significant impact in the war in North Africa was the 2nd New Zealand division they were the first to break through on Operation Supercharge (2nd El Alamein). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_El_Alamein


Yes, and no.

The Australian and New Zealand forces in the Middle East were under very separate control and nothing like the WWI ANZAC version.

Moreover, Freyberg was probably a better general in some respects than some of his Australian (and British) counterparts, while New Zealand left forces in the Med which eventually fought in Italy while Australia brought its forces home to fight the Japanese, which had obvious benefits for New Zealand as well.

Churchill
10-08-2008, 03:12 PM
Churchill, where you meaning Him RS or Him Aly-J, im a Her.


Him as in RS*.

But what he says is true. You do need to stop posting posts of little value/topics of already discussed topics. This does create a deluge of useless topics. If you have a question about WWII, look in the Archives or in threads that have already been created. They're here for a reason.

herman2
10-08-2008, 03:30 PM
Yes, and no.

The Australian and New Zealand forces in the Middle East were under very separate control and nothing like the WWI ANZAC version.

Moreover, Freyberg was probably a better general in some respects than some of his Australian (and British) counterparts, while New Zealand left forces in the Med which eventually fought in Italy while Australia brought its forces home to fight the Japanese, which had obvious benefits for New Zealand as well.

RS, was Tasmania also involved in the middle east since it's close to Australia?, and if so, did they have a considerable contribution?

aly j
10-08-2008, 06:32 PM
RS, was Tasmania also involved in the middle east since it's close to Australia?, and if so, did they have a considerable contribution?

HI Herman,
Tasmania is actually part of Australia, I mean its actually a state of Australia..
Cheers

herman2
10-09-2008, 08:11 AM
I thought Tasmania was its own country. So I guess when they talk about Austraila, they include Tasmania also....Ive always wanted to go to Tasmania cause of the tasmanian devil I see in cartoons!



Romanes Eunt Domus

aly j
10-09-2008, 08:47 AM
I thought Tasmania was its own country. So I guess when they talk about Austraila, they include Tasmania also....Ive always wanted to go to Tasmania cause of the tasmanian devil I see in cartoons!



Romanes Eunt Domus
Youre funnie. Dont worry about it, most Americans and Canadians think the same thing as you did.
I want to go to Tasmania cause of the sprit of Tasmania.

herman2
10-10-2008, 03:05 PM
In WW-1, 15,485 people enlisted from Tasmania. 12,907 saw service This is 8% of the total population of the time. 2,500 died. There was no problem getting Tasmanianites to join the war. Long live Tasmania! (where ever it is)...

Churchill
10-10-2008, 06:30 PM
Its that little island under Australia. See attachment.