Bitter hate

[stevey14/88]

Iam a 16 year old german man, my grandfarther fought the russians onthe eastern front, he lost his brother and best friend there. Iam very proud of my grandfarther (he died inthe 80s) he is my hero, my farther has told me my grandfarthers war stories and also that really my grandfarther never spoke of the war much only now again and even then he would burst into tears sometimes. I have read much on the war inthe eastern front to learn what he must of went through and the more i read about the russian army and stalin the more and more i hate. Russian soldiers mutilating german corpses, mass rapes of german women and children, shooting POWs, shooting there own men etc etc. I really do wish the german army had won inthe east and wiped it clean of that slav scum and made it into something great. Even today russians are not to be trusted look at the killings they are doing at the moment. The world will never be safe until this sub-human vermin is wiped off the face of the earth !

[Sergej]

You are a 16 year old child, who didn't understand any shit of life.
Think about what you write!

[stevey14/88]

iam thinking and iam a man not a child, i think the world can never be at peace until this country full of sub-human murdering rapists is wiped clean. They are a major threat to the world you will see in years to come when this vermin starts WW3

[Churchill]

Cripes man, I'm 15 and I know that if I wrote that, I would be a racist. You need to think before you write and use a little thing called COMMON SENSE. What you're saying is that you are a neo-nazi.

[Sergej]

Hier ein Tipp, Stevey: Steck dir deine Meinung in deinen Faschistenarsch, bleib in deinem Keller und halt deine Fresse! Würdes du nach Deutschland kommen würdest du keinne Fünf Minuten überleben. Und zum Thema Mann: Du bist ein Mann weil du einmal gefickt hast? Hast jemals ein Toten gesehen? Hast je jemaden sterben sehen?
Ich sags noch mal überlege was du schreibst.
Ich werde meine Zeit nicht weiter mit dir verschwenden.

[flamethrowerguy]

Stevey, I know you are very young but I hope you didn't go too far this time...

[Rising Sun*]

I really do wish the german army had won inthe east and wiped it clean of that slav scum and made it into something great.

The Nazis tried that. Read up on Einsatzgruppen and the Nazi treatment of Russian POWs, among other things. The hatred the Nazis' conduct created in the Russians produced the violence towards Germans, Nazis or not, that upsets you. If the Nazis hadn't attacked Poland, Czechoslovakia and Russia, you'd have nothing to be upset about, and neither would your grandfather.

Even today russians are not to be trusted look at the killings they are doing at the moment.

On that basis, the Americans are to be trusted a lot, lot less.

The world will never be safe until this sub-human vermin is wiped off the face of the earth !

It may surprise you to learn that that is exactly how a very large part of the world felt about Nazis 1939-45 and, thank Christ, for all practical purposes they did wipe out the Nazis.

As for sub-human vermin, show me a Russian extermination program that went anywhere near the institutionalised race murder in the Nazi death camps.

[Sergej]

You mean my post?
"Here a advice stevey: take your opinion in your fashists ass, keep in your cellar and shut up. If you would come to Germany you wouldn't survive five minutes. Man? You are a man cause you f***ed ones? You ever seen a dead? You ever seen somebody dieing.
Once again: think what you write.
I won't waste my time with you."

[Rising Sun*]

Iam a 16 year old german man

No, you are a 16 year old German boy who lacks the maturity and knowledge to understand that both sides were guilty of appalling conduct on the eastern front; that all Germans suffered because of the actions of the Nazis who never gained more than about a third of the German vote; that the Nazis stole power and took Germany on a mad path to war; that the Nazis were responsible for the destruction of Germany and the deaths of and injuries to millions of non-Nazi Germans; and that the opinion you expressed is the same sort of mindless race hatred which the Nazis expressed, which leads to ill-informed idiots like you taking a one-eyed view of the past and expressing moronic views which threaten to repeat the past you're whining about.

[Rising Sun*]

You mean my post?
"Here a advice stevey: take your opinion in your fashists ass, keep in your cellar and shut up. If you would come to Germany you wouldn't survive five minutes. Man? You are a man cause you f***ed ones? You ever seen a dead? You ever seen somebody dieing.
Once again: think what you write.
I won't waste my time with you."

Yes.

Thanks.

I deleted the request for translation when I realised it wasn't flamethrowerguy's, and then I got carried away giving stevey a bit more advice before re-posting it to you, but you'd already posted.

stevey would do well to heed your advice.

[Sergej]

Normally this is not my style of communication, but sometimes I'm a bit too emotional.

[Churchill]

Heck, If he was French, I would be yelling at him in French, so don't worry.

[Sergej]

International teamwork;)

[Rising Sun*]

Normally this is not my style of communication, but sometimes I'm a bit too emotional.

There's a difference between being emotional and having proper contempt for ignorant race hatred. ;)

[Churchill]

Oh yeah, things are changing.

[Nickdfresh]

Iam a 16 year old german man, my grandfarther fought the russians onthe eastern front, he lost his brother and best friend there. Iam very proud of my grandfarther (he died inthe 80s) he is my hero, my farther has told me my grandfarthers war stories and also that really my grandfarther never spoke of the war much only now again and even then he would burst into tears sometimes. I have read much on the war inthe eastern front to learn what he must of went through and the more i read about the russian army and stalin the more and more i hate. Russian soldiers mutilating german corpses, mass rapes of german women and children, shooting POWs, shooting there own men etc etc. I really do wish the german army had won inthe east and wiped it clean of that slav scum and made it into something great. Even today russians are not to be trusted look at the killings they are doing at the moment. The world will never be safe until this sub-human vermin is wiped off the face of the earth !


Um, you're going to be on a very short rope with this sort of bollocks. I can tell you that...

But, please read Anthony Beaver's "Stalingrad" chocked full of tales such as the lovely German custom of throwing entire Russian families out of their houses and into subzero temperatures. But of course only after robbing them of their winter clothing...

[Moreheaddriller]

Wow stevo that was the one of the most stupid rants i can honestly say that i had the misfortune of reading i mean gee's talk about retarded logic you think the russians treated the germans bad well then maybe you should read up on zoya kosmodemyanskaya who after the germans hung they cut her body down and mutilated it

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/wwii/baltic_nazis/latvia/images/index%20-%200072-1b.jpg

[Chevan]

Iam a 16 year old german man..... I really do wish the german army had won inthe east and wiped it clean of that slav scum and made it into something great. !
WTF is gooing on?
Where do our mods look at?
Bann this f...ng Nazic racist kid right now.
I/m not joking:(

The race hate is disgusting

[Major Walter Schmidt]

Its so F&'&'ed up its not even funny.

[Egorka]

For Haven's sake....

[stevey14/88]

wow you want to ban me because i said my grandfather fought inthe war,ban me because i said i dont like russians and ban me because i have have a different opinion to yours ..............................

[Rising Sun*]

wow you want to ban me because i said my grandfather fought inthe war,ban me because i said i dont like russians and ban me because i have have a different opinion to yours ..............................

No, it's because of the disgusting Nazi race hatred in this statement:

I really do wish the german army had won inthe east and wiped it clean of that slav scum and made it into something great. Even today russians are not to be trusted look at the killings they are doing at the moment. The world will never be safe until this sub-human vermin is wiped off the face of the earth !

I wasn't in favour of banning you until you'd had a chance to demonstrate that you could behave properly after being warned, making allowances for youthful stupidity and ignorance.

You've now demonstrated that not only can't you behave properly but also that you show the tedious characteristics of a troll who makes inflammatory statements and tries to play dumb cute when challenged about them, as well as being too stupid to realise you're running a losing 'argument'.

Why do I suspect that your grandfather was Waffen SS, who were chief among the real scum on the eastern front?

Time for you to go back to jerkin your gherkin over those sheilas in your profile, sonny, and let the grown ups have a sensible conversation.

[stevey14/88]

First off iam no "troll". Everytime someone posts something others disagree with there branded a troll. iam entitled to my opinions if you didnt agree with them iam open to debate but all you have done is insult and call for me to be banned. I hate russians and always will if you dont like it thats tough.I have inthe past admitted i was wrong about the jews, not that they are totally innocent but they did not deserve to be treated that way and i was upset seeing pictures of murdered jew children.

[stevey14/88]

on another note im not going to tell you if my grandfather was waffen ss or not it is none of your business. He fought bravely for his country to stop the communists,is a hero but was no nazi as you seem to imply

[Rising Sun*]

First off iam no "troll". Everytime someone posts something others disagree with there branded a troll. iam entitled to my opinions if you didnt agree with them iam open to debate but all you have done is insult and call for me to be banned. I hate russians and always will if you dont like it thats tough.I have inthe past admitted i was wrong about the jews, not that they are totally innocent but they did not deserve to be treated that way and i was upset seeing pictures of murdered jew children.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1070/20050818howaboutanicecubm6.jpg

[stevey14/88]

lol very mature now who is the troll rising sun, truely pathetic. i would of respected you more if you had argued that the russains did what they did because of what german did to them or even that bad things happen in war but no im told to shut the f@ck up. I get the feeling im alot wiser and mature than you could ever be rising sun

[Rising Sun*]

on another note im not going to tell you if my grandfather was waffen ss or not it is none of your business.

It is, actually.

You're the one who proudly advertised his war service for the Nazis in a public forum, so why don't you tell us what unit he served in?


He fought bravely for his country to stop the communists,

Would this be stopping the communists when the Nazis invaded the USSR and were pushing the communists back behind their own border, or stopping the communists when the Nazis buggered up their brilliant invasion of the USSR and got their arses kicked all the way back to Berlin?

... is a hero but was no nazi as you seem to imply

Then it must be a great disappointment to him to have a grandson who is.

[Rising Sun*]

i would of respected you more if you had argued that the russains did what they did because of what german did to them

If you'd read my #7 instead of wearing yourself out hating the Russians and ignoring a lot of good advice from other members, you'd see I already have.

Sport, you are the Trollmeister.

[Nickdfresh]

First off iam no "troll". Everytime someone posts something others disagree with there branded a troll. iam entitled to my opinions if you didnt agree with them iam open to debate but all you have done is insult and call for me to be banned. I hate russians and always will if you dont like it thats tough.I have inthe past admitted i was wrong about the jews, not that they are totally innocent but they did not deserve to be treated that way and i was upset seeing pictures of murdered jew children.


Oh come on man, you're totally a troll!

[Rising Sun*]

Cop this
http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/album.php?albumid=24&pictureid=237
from stevey's album of Cool Pictures
http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/album.php?albumid=24

Rather ironic from someone who lives in the UK but gets off on SS bayonets being thrust at a Union Jack on a crudely drawn unarmed Jewish untermensch by two well armed heroes of the Third Reich, neither of whom is stevey's grandfather heroically defending the Reich from its enemies as he was busy on the Ostfront.

And just in case the junior Nazi deletes it, here it is taken from the above link.

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7589/user7060pic237121806694se9.jpg




Here's my favourite SS image, about ten years too late.


http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3065/himm205hg4.jpg

[32Bravo]

wow you want to ban me because i said my grandfather fought inthe war,ban me because i said i dont like russians and ban me because i have have a different opinion to yours ..............................

Fair comment. There is some maturity in that.

What a world! :(

[phatTurtle]

Stevey, I am sure your grandfather would not want to hear that you are carrying such hate in your heart. At this point, I would urge you to do a lot of reading before passing such harsh judgments. Education is very freeing. I hope you find the peace you so very much need. Times have changed greatly from the times your grandfather was at war. Please be so very careful with such a powerful emotion.

[pdf27]

First off iam no "troll". Everytime someone posts something others disagree with there branded a troll.
The objection isn't that you are posting something that others disagree with, but rather you are posting things which are both offensive and disagree with reality (e.g. your comment about all SS divisions being perfect). That makes you either a troll (posting rubbish to upset/bait people) or a moron (posting rubbish because you genuinely believe it). I have rather charitably assumed you had a modicum of intelligence and hence placed you as a troll. It appears I was mistaken.

iam entitled to my opinions if you didnt agree with them iam open to debate but all you have done is insult and call for me to be banned.
If so, I suggest you start participating in debates rather than your normal modus operandi of drive-by postings. Posting evidence in support of your contentions would be a good start.

I hate russians and always will if you dont like it thats tough.
And if you post such stuff on here, you will be given the boot. Racism/Anti-Semitism and other similar -isms are one of the very few things we ban for on here, largely due to the utterly vile nature of the Nazi regime which perpetuated them in WW2. Those who support such ideologies, as well as those who for instance deny the Holocaust in it's various forms (not just against the Jews but against Gypsies, Russian PoWs, etc.) are usually given the boot as soon as we are convinced they are beyond redemption. You yourself are very, very close to being perma-banned for your statements in this thread.

I have inthe past admitted i was wrong about the jews, not that they are totally innocent but they did not deserve to be treated that way and i was upset seeing pictures of murdered jew children.
All right, I'll bite.
1) Of the 6 million people murdered for having "Jewish blood" (note that they were murdered for being related to Jews, not for anything they did or for their religious beliefs) what fraction were "totally innocent"? As an addendum, of those who were not what crimes had they committed and what sentence do you think they deserved for these crimes.
Note again that the Nazis did not carry out any form of judicial process, so that they were not being punished for any such crimes when they were murdered.
2) Why were you not upset by pictures of murdered Jewish adults?
3) Why do the pictures upset you and yet there is no mention of the fact that millions of people were murdered in cold blood upsetting you in the least?
4) Why would it take pictures of murdered children to change your mind about mass murder?

[stevey14/88]

The objection isn't that you are posting something that others disagree with, but rather you are posting things which are both offensive and disagree with reality (e.g. your comment about all SS divisions being perfect). That makes you either a troll (posting rubbish to upset/bait people) or a moron (posting rubbish because you genuinely believe it). I have rather charitably assumed you had a modicum of intelligence and hence placed you as a troll. It appears I was mistaken.


If so, I suggest you start participating in debates rather than your normal modus operandi of drive-by postings. Posting evidence in support of your contentions would be a good start.


And if you post such stuff on here, you will be given the boot. Racism/Anti-Semitism and other similar -isms are one of the very few things we ban for on here, largely due to the utterly vile nature of the Nazi regime which perpetuated them in WW2. Those who support such ideologies, as well as those who for instance deny the Holocaust in it's various forms (not just against the Jews but against Gypsies, Russian PoWs, etc.) are usually given the boot as soon as we are convinced they are beyond redemption. You yourself are very, very close to being perma-banned for your statements in this thread.


All right, I'll bite.
1) Of the 6 million people murdered for having "Jewish blood" (note that they were murdered for being related to Jews, not for anything they did or for their religious beliefs) what fraction were "totally innocent"? As an addendum, of those who were not what crimes had they committed and what sentence do you think they deserved for these crimes.
Note again that the Nazis did not carry out any form of judicial process, so that they were not being punished for any such crimes when they were murdered.
2) Why were you not upset by pictures of murdered Jewish adults?
3) Why do the pictures upset you and yet there is no mention of the fact that millions of people were murdered in cold blood upsetting you in the least?
4) Why would it take pictures of murdered children to change your mind about mass murder?

Well i recently read a book onthe mass murder of the jews and i find no real reason for it, i have looked at both sides of the arguement and i decided that it was wrong i think seeing the pictures of the murdered kids finally showed me it was bullshit. I could find no real reason for the jews to be murdered none what so ever. But the russians i have found reason after reason but if only to "keep the peace" i will stay silent as it is quite clear freedom of speach no longer matters on this site

[stevey14/88]

also pdf26 russians murdered members of my family what would you have me do................................................ .

[Egorka]

Well i recently read a book onthe mass murder of the jews and i find no real reason for it.
What about your granddad? What did he think about the mass murder of jews?

[stevey14/88]

What about your granddad? What did he think about the mass murder of jews?

Dont really know he died inthe 1980s so didnt ever meet him, just really know what my dad told me and the stuff my grandad wrote in his diary about the war inthe east. didnt say much about jews

[Rising Sun*]

also pdf26 russians murdered members of my family what would you have me do................................................ .

Get over it, like most people who were actually there a few generations ago have managed to do.

Not least because they have the sense not to want to see anything like it happen again, as distinct from your desire to wipe out 'slav scum'. You are just endorsing and reviving unreasoning genocidal WWII Nazi race hatred and bestiality, yet you whine about some of your ancestors dying in a war that saw over 70 million people killed, including upwards of 23 million Soviets and upwards of 7 million Germans. In all those incomprehensible numbers and the even more incomprehensible suffering and grief they represent for thousands of millions of survivors and descendants, there's nothing special about your family. And certainly nothing that justifies wiping out all Slavs to atone for your family's loss.

You clearly see Slavs as less than human. You believe there is nothing wrong with wiping them all out. You want them wiped out. Yet you think that you and the members of your family who died in the war are superior beings and worthy of the life you would take from all Slavs. That, sonny boy, is pure Nazi ubermensch and untermensch thinking.

There is no place for people who think like that on this board.

Or on this planet for that matter, where you continue to stay alive to spread your venom only because the majority of other people grant contemptible people like you the right to life that you would deny to others if you ever get into power again.

If you want to find out what modern Germany and its legal system thinks of people like you, go back there and start espousing your Nazi opinions and wearing your SS symbols.

[Dietrich]

That's because the only people in high places are from the former country of East Germany. Where I bet most people loved Russians, considering they had to endure their reign of Red crap for over 60 years! The Russians never repaired the damage until years after Stalin's death, meaning German civilians were living in homes bombed out. And if you start bitching about how Russians have been living in crappy conditions all of their lives then consider that they have always been living in those conditions, Germany is a country that has given the world much, the car, FANTA, debatabley the "bicycle" yet Russian doesnt complain because they are not a civilized and cultivated land.

[Nickdfresh]

also pdf26 russians murdered members of my family what would you have me do................................................ .

Really? Exactly how? What were the circumstances?

[Rising Sun*]

That's because the only people in high places are from the former country of East Germany. Where I bet most people loved Russians, considering they had to endure their reign of Red crap for over 60 years! The Russians never repaired the damage until years after Stalin's death, meaning German civilians were living in homes bombed out. And if you start bitching about how Russians have been living in crappy conditions all of their lives then consider that they have always been living in those conditions, Germany is a country that has given the world much, the car, FANTA, debatabley the "bicycle" yet Russian doesnt complain because they are not a civilized and cultivated land.

WTF??????

I'm starting to feel like I've slipped through a worm hole into another world where Steveys are breeding.

[ptimms]

What pretend Nazi's like Stevey and Dietrich seem to forget is that there is a reason the Russians came to Germany. That is that their insane, singularly bollocked, AUSTRIAN hero brought them there. IF Hitler hadn't invaded Russia they wouldn't have come calling. After the death of 20 million plus citizens the Red Army just wasn't in a very concilliatory mood when they went on a German tour. Whilst I can never condone some of their actions, I can understand them.

You will find out little about Stevey's family, he's not good on specific facts he tends to get caught out.

[flamethrowerguy]

Agreed, except for that one sentence I am not really sure of...

IF Hitler hadn't invaded Russia they wouldn't have come calling.

[ptimms]

Well they might have one day Flame I'm not 100%, but it is a minor flaw in my argument.

[Egorka]

FANTA
Ohh! Not less than spelled with all capital letters. The world is thankfull to you! :)

Deutschland! Deutschland über alles!

[pdf27]

WTF??????

I'm starting to feel like I've slipped through a worm hole into another world where Steveys are breeding.
Different ISPs mate, this one's geniunely not on the same continent.

[Rising Sun*]

Different ISPs mate, this one's geniunely not on the same continent.

I'd suggest they're both on the same planet, which isn't the same one we're on. ;)

[stevey14/88]

Really? Exactly how? What were the circumstances?

lol why would i tell some randoms on an internet forum details about my family, you want names and addresses. How about you tell us how some of your family died... no i didnt think you would. also i have said before my grandfather lost his brother during the war as for details noway.

[Rising Sun*]

lol why would i tell some randoms on an internet forum details about my family, you want names and addresses. How about you tell us how some of your family died... no i didnt think you would. also i have said before my grandfather lost his brother during the war as for details noway.

I'm still waiting to hear which SS unit your grandfather served in.

[Dietrich]

What pretend Nazi's like Stevey and Dietrich seem to forget is that there is a reason the Russians came to Germany. That is that their insane, singularly bollocked, AUSTRIAN hero brought them there. IF Hitler hadn't invaded Russia they wouldn't have come calling. After the death of 20 million plus citizens the Red Army just wasn't in a very concilliatory mood when they went on a German tour. Whilst I can never condone some of their actions, I can understand them.

You will find out little about Stevey's family, he's not good on specific facts he tends to get caught out.

First off - It doesnt matter if Hitler was Austrian, German, or even Swiss. Have any of you heard of othe Holy Roman Empire which for over 1000 years all of these countries were in fact united? Racial purity between these nations are exactly the same! Something like you forum pinkos which spread you communist propoganda would never read because all of you are just as good as the Albanians!

[Man of Stoat]

To be fair, in the past few years the moderation team have let the odd deranged Communist post equally offensive stuff glorifying an equally vile regime without anywhere near the same censure that you are giving this chap.

[pdf27]

To be fair, in the past few years the moderation team have let the odd deranged Communist post equally offensive stuff glorifying an equally vile regime without anywhere near the same censure that you are giving this chap.
Who was that then?

[Rising Sun*]

First off - It doesnt matter if Hitler was Austrian, German, or even Swiss. Have any of you heard of othe Holy Roman Empire which for over 1000 years all of these countries were in fact united? Racial purity between these nations are exactly the same! Something like you forum pinkos which spread you communist propoganda would never read because all of you are just as good as the Albanians!

I hate to disabuse you of your racial purity fantasy, but the Holy Roman Empire actually embraced a number of Slavic areas, including what is now Czechoslovakia and Poland, all the people of which your mate Stevey wants to exterminate.

Alas, Switzerland broke away from the Holy Roman Empire in the 15th century, so it would have mattered if Hitler was Swiss, although rather more in the 20th century as Switzerland and the Swiss remained carefully neutral in the European wars.

As for people not reading, you and Stevey are shining testament to the results of that.

Have you and Stevey taken lessons in ignorance and idiocy, or is it just a natural gift? :rolleyes:

[Dietrich]

Just because these countries are now degenerate doesnt mean they were always filled with Poles and other Slavics. But of course when land opens up like that the Slavics rush in to take what is not theirs, again!

[Rising Sun*]

Just because these countries are now degenerate doesnt mean they were always filled with Poles and other Slavics. But of course when land opens up like that the Slavics rush in to take what is not theirs, again!

At least you've confirmed that your ignorance and idiocy is a gift.

Nobody could be taught to be so utterly ignorant, idiotic, and ridiculous.

As for Slavs supposedly rushing in to take what is not theirs, why is that unacceptable balanced against the Nazis' excursions eastwards from 1939?

P.S. Could you insert a bit of anti-semitism into your next post instead of just skirting around the race hatred issue by slagging the poor old Albanians? The sooner you can express your real race hatred, the happier you'll be.

[Dietrich]

The sooner you can express your real race hatred, the happier you'll be.[/QUOTE]

This is true

[Rising Sun*]

Some previously unseen footage of Hitler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO88hJDnnik&feature=related

Hitler demonstrates his abilities as a commander
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCyDnj3S4bE&feature=related

And a family video of Stevey trying to say part of what's in his signature on this forum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qmpbX9vN6g

[Man of Stoat]

Who was that then?

There were a couple of "isn't communism great" threads about two years ago with a few nutty communists allowed to spout hateful nonsense. Can't remember any names, but they had hammer and sickle emblems either as Avatar pictures or in the signature block.

[Rising Sun*]

There were a couple of "isn't communism great" threads about two years ago with a few nutty communists allowed to spout hateful nonsense. Can't remember any names, but they had hammer and sickle emblems either as Avatar pictures or in the signature block.

The hammer and sickle can stand for commendable socialist ideals or the evils of Stalinism, and a lot in between.

The Nazi swastika doesn't stand for anything commendable, whatever good the Nazis might have done for Germany early on trying to rectify the consequences of Germany's previous war of aggression.

Stevey has the SS symbol as his avatar. He has 14/88 in his board name, which has been explained by Amrit and Chevan as the label adopted by neo-Nazis. He has 'Sieg Heil.... Sieg für Deutschland' as his signature. He wants all 'slav scum' wiped out.

Stevey's allegiances and desires are clear, which is why he deserves everything he gets to resist his odious beliefs. That is, after all, the whole reason the Allied common soldiers fought the Nazis in WWII.

I'm buggered if I can see why new Nazi rats crawling out of their stinking cess pits nowadays should be treated any differently.

[Man of Stoat]

What , you mean the "commendable socialist ideals" of class hatred and class warfare? Material envy? Wanting to wipe out the "bourgeoisie"? the commendable ideas which inspired terrorist campaigns in mainland Europe from the 1960s to the 1980s (RAF, Baader-Meinhof, Rode Jeugd, etc.) ? It's not sheer coincidence that whenever these "commendable socialist ideals" are applied in practice that it deteriorates into a totalitarian hellhole, it is by design.

The Nazi swastika was borrowed from previous cultures -- it was a pretty common symbol, used by North American Indians, in India, and even in Europe. It appears on the spine of Rudyard Kipling books printed pre-Second World War. So it can indeed stand for noble ideals.

Yes, his allegiances and desires are eminently clear, and he is scum. I am certainly not defending his position or his ideas. But it's funny how these things only seem to swing one way...

[phatTurtle]

Stevey, aren't there several nazi groups that you can join? You say you aren't a Nazi but your member id says otherwise. Why do you double talk? 14/88?! That is a directly from Hitler himself!

Stevey, lack of innocence doesn't make killing ok. Lack of innocence is something everyone on earth suffers from. One Jewish person killed, was too many. Just as the Germans blanketed the entire Jewish community, you are doing the same with the Russians. Have you actually met all of them?

You are being attacked because you are representing the exact qualities that most people find repulsive. If you are looking to spread words of hate you are on the wrong website. I am very happy to have Russians, Germans, French, etc here. If you have not come in peace, then you need to go.

No one wants to debate with a growing angry boy. I can understand your anger, I too lost my Grandfather to war. However, he died fighting for human rights, I am proud of him. And I do not hate the Koreans of today for what their Grandfathers did yesterday. People with no tolerance for other people not like them are called racists. You don't want to be flashing that around. It makes you appear extremely ignorant and juvenile. There is a cure for it and it is called EDUCATION.

[Rising Sun*]

.
The sooner you can express your real race hatred, the happier you'll be.[/quote]

This is true



Great work!

All you had to do was press the quote button and type your response, then you would have had the quote showing as a quote.

More evidence that you lack the intelligence expected of ubermensch.

Even the Russians on the board can manage that, and they're not even English speakers.

What does that say about where you fit into the food chain? And your fate when the ubermensch with guns and cattle wagons get into power?

Looks like you fit somewhere below Albanians, probably, who contrary to your ignorant beliefs have managed to throw up the odd person of modest attainment, such as Mother Teresa and Giovanni Francesco Albani, who was better known as Pope Clement XI who, strange to relate but true, figured large in the dying days of the Holy Roman Empire. Who would have thought Albania could have done that?

Also, don't overlook Ricciotti Garibaldi, son of the important Garibaldi about whom I am sure you are well informed and without whom Mussolini could not have existed to inflict fascism on Italy to inspire Hitler so those ideas could trickle down to you, as outdated and worthless in the modern world as Marxism and other artifacts. Ricciotti was involved in a revolution in Albania around 1910, not unlike the one his father led in Italy. People like that didn't waste their time on pointless exercises or worthless people, which is exactly the opposite of what I've been doing in this thread and elsewhere challenging fascist idiots.

[Rising Sun*]

What , you mean the "commendable socialist ideals" of class hatred and class warfare? Material envy? Wanting to wipe out the "bourgeoisie"? the commendable ideas which inspired terrorist campaigns in mainland Europe from the 1960s to the 1980s (RAF, Baader-Meinhof, Rode Jeugd, etc.) ? It's not sheer coincidence that whenever these "commendable socialist ideals" are applied in practice that it deteriorates into a totalitarian hellhole, it is by design.

I mean upholding the dignity of the worker and striving to ensure that workers get a decent wage and decent working and living conditions for them and their families in a just society. It's a tradition that goes back through a couple of centuries of shameless exploitation of the common man and woman by those few born to privilege or acquiring it through, in most cases, shameless exploitation of the common man and woman.

Baader-Meinhof, Red Brigades, Red Army and so on were as much socialists as the Zionists in Israel were liberators of the Palestinians or the PLA were advocates for safe air travel or Diem was working towards a unified Vietnam.

Despite the anti-communist hysteria which gripped the capitalist West well before and after WWII, socialism is neither communism nor Stalinism nor any of the other nationalistic despotic forms of allegedly socialist society implemented from Peking to Moscow to Hanoi to Havana and other centres of privileged corruption of a great ideal by a minority with its heel on the neck of the proletariat, just like the capitalists but with absolute power which would have made Henry Ford and the Du Ponts etc cream their jocks.

Yet, amazingly, all Western societies are now based on significant elements of socialist ideals, if imperfectly and haphazardly implemented.

If they weren't, for example, Britain would never have had a national health scheme and its population would now be rather smaller and sicker, while America wouldn't have a Social Security system at the heart of the land of self reliant individuality and rabid hostility to communism and socialism. It's no accident that that system is the third rail of American politics: Touch it, and you die. So much for America not having implemented any socialist ideas.


The Nazi swastika was borrowed from previous cultures -- it was a pretty common symbol, used by North American Indians, in India, and even in Europe. It appears on the spine of Rudyard Kipling books printed pre-Second World War. So it can indeed stand for noble ideals.

I know that.

Which is why I referred to the 'Nazi swastika' and what it represents. Hitler corrupted for generations any earlier good associated with that symbol.

Yes, his allegiances and desires are eminently clear, and he is scum. I am certainly not defending his position or his ideas. But it's funny how these things only seem to swing one way...

Only one way? Meaning?

[Egorka]

Can some one, please, remind me what is the topic of this thread? What are we supposed to discuss in here? I want to participate but I would not want to post off topic...

[Rising Sun*]

Can some one, please, remind me what is the topic of this thread? What are we supposed to discuss in here? I want to participate but I would not want to post off topic...

Well, here's Stevey's OP.

There's a bit to work with there. :rolleyes:

I am a 16 year old german man, my grandfarther fought the russians onthe eastern front, he lost his brother and best friend there. Iam very proud of my grandfarther (he died inthe 80s) he is my hero, my farther has told me my grandfarthers war stories and also that really my grandfarther never spoke of the war much only now again and even then he would burst into tears sometimes. I have read much on the war inthe eastern front to learn what he must of went through and the more i read about the russian army and stalin the more and more i hate. Russian soldiers mutilating german corpses, mass rapes of german women and children, shooting POWs, shooting there own men etc etc. I really do wish the german army had won inthe east and wiped it clean of that slav scum and made it into something great. Even today russians are not to be trusted look at the killings they are doing at the moment. The world will never be safe until this sub-human vermin is wiped off the face of the earth !

[herman2]

Russians are nice people like Germans. In War there are a lot of atrocities committed. There are no rules in war (well there are but the point is we break them continuously) and it is sad that these things happened. BUT, we are now a new nation and most of the old WW2 people have died off. The new generation is totally different and we think differently now with the advancement of media and democracy. You may come across some Russians even today that you may not like, but you will come across Germans that you may not like either. Life is like that. Don't stereotype people for their past. A lot of times stories are told out of proportion for the imapct effect. Atrocities did happen but it's in the past. We all committed them. The Americans had their day too. Read the Rape of Nanking and see how you feel learning about it. Peace out, and have an Atomic day.

[Egorka]

Well, here's Stevey's OP.
There's a bit to work with there. :rolleyes:
Yes, I have seen the first post. What I do not understand is what are we all doing here?
I mean the first post has nor message/info, nor question, it has nothing what-so-ever. Appart of informing us that he is 16 and his puberty does let him sleep calmly through the night.

I feel like I am missing something in here. I want to be in the debate too. But what are we actually debating?

[Rising Sun*]

Yes, I have seen the first post. What I do not understand is what are we all doing here?
I mean the first post has nor message/info, nor question, it has nothing what-so-ever. Appart of informing us that he is 16 and his puberty does let him sleep calmly through the night.

I feel like I am missing something in here. I want to be in the debate too. But what are we actually debating?

I think your mathematical brain may be forcing us to focus on something that has been eluding the rest of us in this conversation, which is a conversation rather than a debate as Stevey makes assertions rather than offers arguments.

Having given due consideration to your post, I think there might be a numerical relationship, upon which you could expound, between being sixteen years old, pubescent, and needing at least eight hours sleep a night.

I think also that this could be related to my earlier comment about Stevey jerkin his gherkin. (A gherkin is a small pickled cucumber.)

So, putting all this together for your careful mathematical analysis, I get
Stevey = ((gherkin=15cm) x (16 x 8)) = 19.2 metres. Thus, Stevey's gherkin is 19.2 metres long.

Or, Stevey = ((jerkin=n) x (16 x 8)) = 128 where n is 1. If n is greater than 1, I doubt Stevey will survive the first day.

[stevey14/88]

Some previously unseen footage of Hitler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO88hJDnnik&feature=related

Hitler demonstrates his abilities as a commander
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCyDnj3S4bE&feature=related

And a family video of Stevey trying to say part of what's in his signature on this forum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qmpbX9vN6g

LOL nice videos rising but i like this one better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkajXeVLpk4&feature=related

[Nickdfresh]

lol why would i tell some randoms on an internet forum details about my family, you want names and addresses. How about you tell us how some of your family died... no i didnt think you would. also i have said before my grandfather lost his brother during the war as for details noway.


I didn't say specifics. I said where and under what circumstances it happened. Because you know, and I know, that it DIDN'T happen, not to anyone you're directly related too anyways...

You're not German, you ain't a teenager, and this is getting boring....

[Nickdfresh]

The sooner you can express your real race hatred, the happier you'll be.

This is true

I call a mass troll. Though I have no idea who this might be out of Baltimore...

And for someone that hates other races, you've chosen one hell of a residence! :D

[Nickdfresh]

There were a couple of "isn't communism great" threads about two years ago with a few nutty communists allowed to spout hateful nonsense. Can't remember any names, but they had hammer and sickle emblems either as Avatar pictures or in the signature block.

That was that Jasa tool, and his wonderful Stalin-apologisms, complete with using a Canadian hack journalist and admitted communist for his main source on the Ukrainian Holomodor...

[stevey14/88]

I didn't say specifics. I said where and under what circumstances it happened. Because you know, and I know, that it DIDN'T happen, not to anyone you're directly related too anyways...

You're not German, you ain't a teenager, and this is getting boring....

so im a troll who isnt a teenager and isnt german now, i would be laughing now if you had not of just insulted my family, my country and my race. I see your going low enough to insult my family you disgust me. I would love to see you insult me face to face but i dont think you would because your a coward who only has the balls to insult over the internet and if you did insult me face to face lets just say you would never insult me again.......

You want me banned well i can see a few peoples true colours on this forum, the colour is mainly red commie red

[Rising Sun*]

so im a troll who isnt a teenager and isnt german now, i would be laughing now if you had not of just insulted my family, my country and my race.

I've been following the Olympics and I haven't seen you in any race.

Did you win something that mattered?

I see your going low enough to insult my family you disgust me.

This is understandable as, if you are representative of your family, it is both low and disgusting. Rats, even Siberian hamsters, have higher standards.

I would love to see you insult me face to face but i dont think you would because your a coward who only has the balls to insult over the internet and if you did insult me face to face lets just say you would never insult me again.......

OOOOOOOOOOOHHHH!

If someone said that to me, I'd be pissing myself.

With laughter.


You want me banned well i can see a few peoples true colours on this forum, the colour is mainly red commie red

No.

Mostly Jewish yellow.

From the Star of David some of us wear metaphorically in solidarity with those persecuted by dickbrains like you.

[Rising Sun*]

Responding to Stevey and Sepp Dietriech is fun, but it is becoming tedious. Like shooting fish in a barrel, but without finishing one of the bastards off.

Isn't it time to send both of them to the home for worn out Nazis?

[pdf27]

I would love to see you insult me face to face but i dont think you would because your a coward who only has the balls to insult over the internet and if you did insult me face to face lets just say you would never insult me again.......
Oh wow, internet hardman. Tell you what, name a time I'm free and a place and I'll turn up and insult you on his behalf (it seems hardly fair to expect him to fly over from the States specially to prove a point, and I'm in the UK so it's easy for me).
It has to be said, I rather suspect that as scary experiences in live go some random "16 year old" on the interwebnet is probably going to be somewhere below him spending time on a two-way range during Op Granby.

You want me banned well i can see a few peoples true colours on this forum, the colour is mainly red commie red
Snigger. So now people like Stoaty (a raving Minarchist if such a thing is possible) and Nick/RS* (who were both in Western armies during the Cold War) are communists. You do realise that if you are the age you claim to be the Berlin Wall fell before you were born and so you will never have lived in a world with a serious communist regime? Nick and RS* both lived with the reality that they might have to fight one. Big, big difference.

[pdf27]

Can some one, please, remind me what is the topic of this thread? What are we supposed to discuss in here? I want to participate but I would not want to post off topic...
Well I was thinking of editing the thread title to read "Nazi Moron - Watch and Shoot, Watch and Shoot", but decided those without an English speaking (and probably military too) background wouldn't get it.

[herman2]

We luv you Pdf 27!...don't take any lip from an agressor;)

[Rising Sun*]

Oh wow, internet hardman. Tell you what, name a time I'm free and a place and I'll turn up and insult you on his behalf (it seems hardly fair to expect him to fly over from the States specially to prove a point, and I'm in the UK so it's easy for me).


Bags you my nominee for sorting thingy name out. :D

[Dietrich]

Actually this is quite disgusting. To see that I have been at work from 8:30 to 3:00 and the forum pinko's here have posted three pages more clearly shows how much of external lives they have. Maybe they are shunned from their physical communities because of their peace loving hippy crap!
I've also taken the liberty to notice where all of you Red's are from, isolated and desolate countries like Austrailia! Where the only black guys exist are the aboriginals, and you're killing them off for God's sake!

[Chevan]

Nick/RS* (who were both in Western armies during the Cold War) are communists..
I always supposed Nick with his social-oriented views might be a perfect communist.:mrgreen:
And Rising Sun also pretty socialist:)

[ptimms]

You should look more closely old pal. I'm from good old blighty it bugs you pretend Nazi's that we did you twice in 30 years doesn't it. I also see the "Hitler was Austrian" quote puts your knickers in a twist.

C'mon Stevey tell us about your family in the Army. I'll tell you about mine I'm not scared.

Guardsman George Eric Timms 2660765 served with His Majesty's Coldstream Regiment of Foot Guards, 3rd Battalion 1/4/40- 16/3/47. You can go to Birdcage walk and check as you live in England.

Facts son, thats what we need.

[Chevan]

... Nick and RS* both lived with the reality that they might have to fight one. ...
If they would surrvived after the first mutual nuclear atack.:)

[pdf27]

Actually this is quite disgusting. To see that I have been at work from 8:30 to 3:00 and the forum pinko's here have posted three pages more clearly shows how much of external lives they have. Maybe they are shunned from their physical communities because of their peace loving hippy crap!
I've also taken the liberty to notice where all of you Red's are from, isolated and desolate countries like Austrailia! Where the only black guys exist are the aboriginals, and you're killing them off for God's sake!

Bye-Bye.

[Dietrich]

Clearly all of you are very well "Red" and that you cannot be swayed from your decadent and ulitimately pathetic views.

[pdf27]

If they would surrvived after the first mutual nuclear atack.:)
Or the Nerve Agents, or the conventional artillery, or the Motor-Rifle division coming their way. I've had rather a lot of instructors in the TA who spent their first 5-10 years in the army facing exactly that scenario, and why they expected to win (what army wouldn't!) they had no illusions about how hard and dangerous it would be. And yes, they are very good indeed...

[ptimms]

Ahh Dietrich, very clever play on words,but you're right I'll never be swayed from my decadent and ulitimately pathetic view that Hitler wasn't even German.

[Dietrich]

You will not have the last reply Deer Tick!

[flamethrowerguy]

...that we did you twice in 30 years...

Yo, p, but both times you brought along a lot of friends!:mrgreen:

[Nickdfresh]

....I would love to see you insult me face to face but i dont think you would because your a coward who only has the balls to insult over the internet and if you did insult me face to face lets just say you would never insult me again.......
...

http://www.shipmentoffail.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/fail-at-failing.jpg
LMFAO!! :D I haven't even insulted you yet. I only wish the Russians had spayed and neutered your non-existent relatives!

BTW, what are you doing on London?

[Dietrich]

http://www.shipmentoffail.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/fail-at-failing.jpg
LMFAO!! :D I haven't even insulted you yet. I only wish the Russians had spayed and neutered your non-existent relatives!

BTW, what are you doing on London?

Who the hell are you?

And I have finally figured out the quote system!

[Nickdfresh]

Actually this is quite disgusting. To see that I have been at work from 8:30 to 3:00 and the forum pinko's here have posted three pages more clearly shows how much of external lives they have. Maybe they are shunned from their physical communities because of their peace loving hippy crap!
I've also taken the liberty to notice where all of you Red's are from, isolated and desolate countries like Austrailia! Where the only black guys exist are the aboriginals, and you're killing them off for God's sake!

Well dummy, what about all the "black guys" in Baltimore?

And how was the breakfast and lunch shift at McDonalds?

[Dietrich]

Actually I've run out of things to say, your not a worthy opponent, also considering you live in a desolate region filled with those traitorous Canadians who hordes all of our draft-dodgers

[Moreheaddriller]

Actually I've run out of things to say, your not a worthy opponent, also considering you live in a desolate region filled with those traitorous Canadians who hordes all of our draft-dodgers

You know usually i wouldnt come to the aid of a yorker like nick but dude if you hate the people on this forum why dont you leave i mean your just being a insulting douche who ruins the fun of the site i mean god it like the site is being invaded by trolls.

[Dietrich]

Im so sorry that Im ruining your Fantasy Quest sort of false reality, if you call that load of pinko crap fun. How about all of you get individual jobs and seperate lives, or at least do something better then sit on a forum and bitch about how everyone is equal and why the Beatles shouldnt have split up.

[Nickdfresh]

Actually I've run out of things to say, your not a worthy opponent, also considering you live in a desolate region filled with those traitorous Canadians who hordes all of our draft-dodgers


Who the hell are you talking too? And why would Canadians be traitorous unless they betrayed Canada's national security?

And have you ever served? And by serve, I mean not shoving crab cakes into your pie-hole...

[Nickdfresh]

Im so sorry that Im ruining your Fantasy Quest sort of false reality, if you call that load of pinko crap fun. How about all of you get individual jobs and seperate lives, or at least do something better then sit on a forum and bitch about how everyone is equal and why the Beatles shouldnt have split up.

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg52/LtDouchebag/fail-1.gif

[Moreheaddriller]

I mean come on how the hell can a yank from maryland insult another from new york i thought all of you were united in your hate of the south:D

[Dietrich]

Hell no. Maryland is below the Mason Dixon line for God's sake, the only reason they didnt become Confederate is because of Washington D.C, as Lincoln sent in troops to protect his affairs obviously

[Moreheaddriller]

sorry for true southerners the line stops at virginia down here we dont consider you southern

[Churchill]

http://www.flippeh.de/funPics/toLazyToRename/failure%201.jpg

This is my feeling about this...

[Dietrich]

As long as that comment comes from a Southerner, and not someone from Virginia, disgusting state filled with waffle houses

[Moreheaddriller]

God im happy that a state whos mascot is a frickin turtle didnt join the confederacy

http://www.westosha.k12.wi.us/Departments/Guidance/CollegePics/Maryland_Terps.gif

Intimidating isnt it?

[Dietrich]

Its a terapin jackass!

[Moreheaddriller]

which is in fact a gay little turtle

[RifleMan20]

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/909/failurexh8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/909/failurexh8.25f97598d9.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=364&i=failurexh8.jpg)

Hey, lets be Americans and blame someone else. Haha, just kidding no really, the Canadians are cool and they were never traitors.

[Dietrich]

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8987/linuxcommunismvk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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[Churchill]

As long as that comment comes from a Southerner, and not someone from Virginia, disgusting state filled with waffle houses

How does 20 clicks from London sound?

[Dietrich]

Typing in that degenerate British slang helps no one!

[Nickdfresh]

Hell no. Maryland is below the Mason Dixon line for God's sake, the only reason they didnt become Confederate is because of Washington D.C, as Lincoln sent in troops to protect his affairs obviously

Maryland is upper middleclass yuppie-land, farmers, and inbred castoffs all rolled into one schizophrenic little state...

[Dietrich]

It's a shame, considering your kind has been bitching all day about how we havent met all of the Russians in the world before we judge, yet have you met everyone from Maryland?? Try and pick a side before you decide to create degenerate statements like that

[Moreheaddriller]

those turtles so much hate in their heart wonder why?

[Nickdfresh]

On that note, this thread has run its course and is now closed until further notice.