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Churchill
06-06-2008, 07:01 PM
So, this was found buried under a street in Chartres, 90 kilometres southwest of Paris. The tank may be rusted as hell and the turret is missing, but, I was wondering if this was an M3 or an M5. I know that they both look alike, but if anybody has any idea, I would appreciate it if it was posted.

If anyone has any other tank, plane, etc. pictures found it weird places( such as under a road) post them here...

(I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but you can move this elsewhere if needed)

tankgeezer
06-07-2008, 10:22 PM
Any pics to post?

Churchill
06-08-2008, 01:18 PM
The pic was there, let me try and fix it...

Nickdfresh
06-08-2008, 02:16 PM
The pic was there, let me try and fix it...

It looks like you linked to an attachment.

See if you can download it to your harddrive and upload to the site directly using "manage attachments."

Churchill
06-08-2008, 08:12 PM
Uh... What? Could you explane that to me in layman's terms?

Nickdfresh
06-09-2008, 09:58 PM
Uh... What? Could you explane that to me in layman's terms?

The link to you pic will need to end in ".jpg/.gif/" etc. When you get those long links to pics with no photo format, it's not going to work.

See if you can download the pic to your computer harddrive from the email, and then post it directly to the site from there...

Or better yet, just email it to me at nickdfresh@hotmail.com

Churchill
06-09-2008, 10:06 PM
Sure, I can do that. Here you go.

General Zod
06-13-2008, 08:39 PM
It looks like a welded hull It's either,an M5,or possibly an M3A3

RifleMan20
06-14-2008, 01:43 AM
It looks like like an m5 hull to me. I counted the gears in the treads and it matched the number I found in a picture of another m5 stuart.

Major Walter Schmidt
06-14-2008, 03:29 AM
M3 Lee photo
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/m3rus.jpg

Major Walter Schmidt
06-14-2008, 03:32 AM
M5 stuart
http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/pics/m5stuart.jpg
compare...
looks like M5 to me...

General Zod
06-14-2008, 08:01 PM
M5 stuart
http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/pics/m5stuart.jpg
compare...
looks like M5 to me...
Sorry

I should have said it may have been an M3A3 Stuart light tank That was a welded hull as well as the M5 series

redcoat
06-21-2008, 02:26 PM
I would say its a M5 Series Light tank.

On the M3A3 the rear engine decking is level with the rest of the hull. While on the M5 the rear engine decking is slightly raised.

Even with the heavy rusting and mud you can still make out the raised engine decking on the tank in the photo ;)

BearMgk
06-22-2008, 12:59 PM
M5 i think

namvet
06-23-2008, 11:37 AM
here's the story. it claims it was an M5

link (link)

Major Walter Schmidt
06-24-2008, 02:05 AM
What'll happen to it?

RifleMan20
06-25-2008, 12:40 AM
My guess will be put in a museum or maybe be bought by some rich guy that would try to restore it. But most likely a museum.

kenbu
06-25-2008, 11:06 AM
I think is definately an M5 or M5a1, the stepped up rear deck "hump" for the Cadillac twin V8 is clearly visable , the only other variant built in any great numbers to use the twin V8, was the M8 75mm Howitzer Motor Carriage, but this had a different front hull.

take care

Kenny.

colonel hogan
01-05-2009, 12:50 AM
So, this was found buried under a street in Chartres, 90 kilometres southwest of Paris. The tank may be rusted as hell and the turret is missing, but, I was wondering if this was an M3 or an M5. I know that they both look alike, but if anybody has any idea, I would appreciate it if it was posted.

If anyone has any other tank, plane, etc. pictures found it weird places( such as under a road) post them here...

(I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but you can move this elsewhere if needed)

this is definately a stewart hull but im not surew if its m3 or m5

Uyraell
03-07-2009, 09:07 AM
M5, quite plainly.
Raised rear engine deck, late series suspension volutes.
Quite possibly it had been used as a kangaroo or command vehicle.
No real way to identify that without seeing the turret ring though.

Regards, Uyraell.

tankgeezer
03-07-2009, 05:54 PM
Stuarts are a bit hard to come by, Shermans are plentiful by comparison. Any Stuart that is worth the trouble to restore will be valuable, and sought after. This one has been in the ground a long time, and that coupled with whatever damage it took beforehand will determine its fate. If the(or any) turret can be found, that will help. But it will make a good static display regardless, just needs a bath, and some paint.

Churchill
03-07-2009, 10:23 PM
Tonnes of paint. Maybe new outside accessories too...

peopleselbow
03-08-2009, 04:21 PM
is anyone restoring it

Churchill
03-08-2009, 04:58 PM
Dunno, haven't kept up with the project.

Uyraell
03-08-2009, 06:58 PM
Stuarts are a bit hard to come by, Shermans are plentiful by comparison. Any Stuart that is worth the trouble to restore will be valuable, and sought after. This one has been in the ground a long time, and that coupled with whatever damage it took beforehand will determine its fate. If the(or any) turret can be found, that will help. But it will make a good static display regardless, just needs a bath, and some paint.
TG
I know of a Stuart M3 A1(?) not far from where I am, about an hour's drive. The vehicle is in running order. The only serious lack, of course, is an ability to fire the main weapon, or have it so as to represent the process of doing so.
I'd rate the vehicle as 97% intact, in automotive terms.

Regards, Uyraell.

tankgeezer
03-09-2009, 10:12 AM
I'm surprised that no one has tried to buy it, There are not alot of them extant, as they are smaller, and more easily handled than a Sherman, or other type tank. Among the monied collectors, they are popular. Running examples are less frequently found in the militaries of the world these days, small countries might have some left over machines, and be willing to sell them in order to get something newer, or fatten the budget a bit, but those are few and far between.
The dug up may end up in the town square, or in some nearby display, even if its missing pieces, and a turret, some paint, and effort, will make it a part of the local history.

navyson
03-12-2009, 05:17 PM
http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?p=109145#post109145
This is from the Admiral Nimitz Museum of the Pacific War in Fredericksburg, TX.
There are a couple of pictures in this thread of an M5 Stuart that actually runs and is used in demonstrations. They (the museum) have actually purchased an M4 Sherman from Israel since these pictures were taken and have it for demonstrations also.

peopleselbow
04-20-2009, 05:17 PM
that tank is in need of restoration

Deaf Smith
04-20-2009, 08:09 PM
TG
I know of a Stuart M3 A1(?) not far from where I am, about an hour's drive. The vehicle is in running order. The only serious lack, of course, is an ability to fire the main weapon, or have it so as to represent the process of doing so.
I'd rate the vehicle as 97% intact, in automotive terms.

Regards, Uyraell.

If it's in the U.S., just bore the barrel out to smooth bore and I think you can make it a shotgun (ATF regs say anything above .500 dia. must be registered if it's a rifle or pistol.)

37mm would be, what, 2 bore? 1 bore? And if the barrel is choaked, it would make a real good punt gun. Noisy to drive up to the lake, but still a heck of a punt gun.

Deaf