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RifleMan20
03-09-2008, 06:53 PM
Hey I was on yesterday and I noticed something new, it was a forum area for mods and admins, then I came back today and its gone, I was wondering if I was suppose to see that, just asking because I didnt want to be in something I wasnt supposed to be in

MayberrySaint
03-09-2008, 07:12 PM
It would appear that we were able to see an area that is off-limits to members. Unfortunately, I didn't have the same qualms as you and spent most of the morning snooping around and reading the behind-the-scenes threads...they were very entertaining...;)

Moreheaddriller
03-09-2008, 07:51 PM
like what?

mike M.
03-09-2008, 08:22 PM
Not a stupid question at all. Yes...this is the second time it has happened, first time was a year or so ago. Very interesting what the mods talk about and think of members who have differences of opinions. A word of advise to new members..never have a different opinion than a mod..or a member who may become a mod, agree with everything they say and kiss up whenever you can and youll get along just fine.

Major Walter Schmidt
03-09-2008, 09:49 PM
Not a stupid question at all. Yes...this is the second time it has happened, first time was a year or so ago. Very interesting what the mods talk about and think of members who have differences of opinions. A word of advise to new members..never have a different opinion than a mod..or a member who may become a mod, agree with everything they say and kiss up whenever you can and youll get along just fine.

Agreed.

Gutkowski
03-09-2008, 09:53 PM
I wish I saw that LOL I want to know whats in there about me

pdf27
03-10-2008, 02:51 AM
A word of advise to new members..never have a different opinion than a mod..or a member who may become a mod, agree with everything they say and kiss up whenever you can and youll get along just fine.
In public, mods have to act according to the site rules - even when someone is a complete moron who we all know the site would be better off without. The War Room allows us to discuss people like that and blow off a bit of steam without affecting our job.
As far as we're concerned, if you obey the site rules you're welcome to stay here indefinately...

Rising Sun*
03-10-2008, 04:29 AM
Not a stupid question at all. Yes...this is the second time it has happened, first time was a year or so ago. Very interesting what the mods talk about and think of members who have differences of opinions. A word of advise to new members..never have a different opinion than a mod..or a member who may become a mod, agree with everything they say and kiss up whenever you can and youll get along just fine.

I didn't see the mod thread, nor do I care what's on it because that's their business, but my rather substantial and fairly recent experience contradicts your view.

After two major conflicts to which I made a major contribution by fighting back in my unrestrained ball kicking fashion, because that's my unfortunate nature when under attack, I couldn't fault the process or the result.

If you have a halfway reasonable complaint and pursue it vigorously but half way reasonably, the majority of the mods will see that you have a fair complaint and the admins will make a just decision.

However, in my cases, I was completely unreasonable and the mods and admins were still fair. ;)

Panzerknacker
03-17-2008, 07:09 PM
Hey I was on yesterday and I noticed something new, it was a forum area for mods and admins, then I came back today and its gone, I was wondering if I was suppose to see that, just asking because I didnt want to be in something I wasnt supposed to be in


I am sorry, I had no use always my best languaje there.

Now this is another not so stupid question...why a person could be "Chief Moderator" when is hardly seen here ?

RifleMan20
03-17-2008, 09:12 PM
Who WW2mod, no offense to him

Panzerknacker
03-18-2008, 11:12 AM
Firefly actually, his only two actions as moderatos has been to block The Dresden bombing topic and the one related with Falklands/Malvinas crimes, considering that he is involved with the british military that does not sound like impartial actions :rolleyes:

Nickdfresh
03-19-2008, 01:55 PM
Firefly actually, his only two actions as moderatos has been to block The Dresden bombing topic and the one related with Falklands/Malvinas crimes, considering that he is involved with the british military that does not sound like impartial actions :rolleyes:

Sorry PK, but sometimes its the posts you don't edit that make the Mod, not how much he makes his presence felt by intimidation and editing...

And since you have such a long memory apparently, perhaps you'll recall something regarding the Dresden thread. That you took upon yourself to later ban the single biggest protagonist (or antagonist, depending on how you look at it) in that thread for "trolling and anti-semitism." So I take it that you concurred that the thread was more about nationalist flaming that it was about learning and the sharing of knowledge...

Panzerknacker
03-19-2008, 06:04 PM
Sorry Nick but after your late post about my country in the "Too late for England" topic I think you are not qualified to talk about this matters, if you want we cant talk about issues within your reach like...hummm...dogshit, goatshit and bullshit.

MayberrySaint
03-19-2008, 06:17 PM
I don't think we really need another goat shit, dog shit or bull shit thread...;)

Nickdfresh
03-19-2008, 07:43 PM
Sorry Nick but after your late post about my country in the "Too late for England" topic I think you are not qualified to talk about this matters, if you want we cant talk about issues within your reach like...hummm...dogshit, goatshit and bullshit.

We'll leave the last sentence for you --to throw at the walls...And ignore the rest...

Rising Sun*
03-20-2008, 05:16 AM
Sorry Nick but after your late post about my country in the "Too late for England" topic I think you are not qualified to talk about this matters, if you want we cant talk about issues within your reach like...hummm...dogshit, goatshit and bullshit.

Always you come on with the dogship, goatship, and bullship language, like that other pucking foulmouth from Austria. ;)

(To avoid any misunderstanding, this is being funny, and you are expected to be funny in response, particularly as you're working on your sense of humour. ;) If you don't, pdf27 will crack the ships again ;) ( http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crack+the+shits ) and lock the thread, so say something funny. :))

Gen. Sandworm
03-20-2008, 08:55 PM
Seriously kill the insults ppl!!!!!!!!!

1000ydstare
03-21-2008, 03:12 AM
I am sorry, I had no use always my best languaje there.

Now this is another not so stupid question...why a person could be "Chief Moderator" when is hardly seen here ?

"If you do it right, people will question whether you are there at all".

Reaching back to my politics study there are several sorts of leadership. Firefly seems to use the Laissez Faire approach. Little nudges to keep things on track, but allows teh members to control the thread.

Your approach boardered on right wing, tyranical dictator. Although you fell short of PMing members the posts they were to put up.

It is more a difference in style and you're still bitter that you have lost the mantel of Moderator, and are cast down with us peons, that you thought were lesser than you whilst you were a mod.

Rising Sun*
03-21-2008, 05:08 AM
"If you do it right, people will question whether you are there at all".

Reaching back to my politics study there are several sorts of leadership. Firefly seems to use the Laissez Faire approach. Little nudges to keep things on track, but allows teh members to control the thread.

Exactly.

It's entirely possible that that's why he's an uber-moderator. ;)

Rising Sun*
03-21-2008, 05:11 AM
Seriously kill the insults ppl!!!!!!!!!

For a moment there I thought this was an admin flame urging us to kill the people making insults, which it has to be conceded would contribute to harmony on the board, but then understanding dawned. :D

pdf27
03-21-2008, 06:51 AM
It is more a difference in style and you're still bitter that you have lost the mantel of Moderator, and are cast down with us peons, that you thought were lesser than you whilst you were a mod.
Just to reiterate, PK was NOT kicked out of being a mod - he resigned as he felt he could not in good conscience apply board policies he fundamentally disagreed with, and after giving him some days to reconsider GS regretfully accepted his resignation.
Just because he is no longer a mod should not mean open season on PK - you may disagree with him, but he's done a hell of a lot for this board, and far more than most of you. So leave it out, OK?

1000ydstare
03-21-2008, 07:32 AM
Apologies, I know he resigned.

Rising Sun*
03-21-2008, 08:02 AM
Just to reiterate, PK was NOT kicked out of being a mod - he resigned as he felt he could not in good conscience apply board policies he fundamentally disagreed with, and after giving him some days to reconsider GS regretfully accepted his resignation.
Just because he is no longer a mod should not mean open season on PK - you may disagree with him, but he's done a hell of a lot for this board, and far more than most of you. So leave it out, OK?

I accept that I've contributed nothing to this board, on the considered opinion of no less an authority than PK


Beside, despite your 2000 and some post I dont think you are much important or bring some special to the forum, let me say that you are an expendable member. #27 http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6374&highlight=expendable&page=2

Be that as it may, if PK hadn't repeatedly sniped at me and others without provocation to continue his vendetta from his period as a mod and subsequently, I and others wouldn't have been in any conflicts with him. He gets back what he gives out, although rather less than he gives out as, among other things, he's overdue for a big kick up the arse from Firelfly for slagging Firefly. Which hasn't happened because Firefly demonstrates in his modding all the qualities PK lacked.

It's no coincidence that PK's been slagging off and or trying to provoke conflict with Firefly, Nickdfresh, Chevan, 1000YS, and me in various threads. Yet none of us have any conflict with each other or anyone else, apart from occasional clowns like Covenanter who get back what they give out. That doesn't suggest we're the problem. So what's the common factor that causes conflict? PK. Not the rest of us

I tried to end responding to PK in this thread http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6587&page=2 , which you locked after PK chose to ignore my stated intention to ingore his provocations and couldn't resist posting another provocation and I stated that I ignored it. So who wanted to continue the vendetta there? And WTF possessed him to come back from his holiday and wind me up when there was no reason for it, as he's done elsewhere?

I've made a serious effort to try to get on with PK, over a very long period, but the simple fact is that he has a schizoid tendency to surprise me and others with sudden bursts of venom for no good reason when we fail to meet his shifting standards of correct behaviour and expression.

Nick has shown him remarkable tolerance as a mod, and a bloody sight more than PK ever showed anyone in his erratic and arbitrary reign as a mod. Now PK's engaging in intermittent inflammatory conduct as a member which he wouldn't have tolerated as a mod, and most of it is about slagging the current standard of modding and continuing his vendettas against other members from when he was a mod to a level he wouldn't have tolerated as a mod.

PK is the architect of all his own problems and the agent provacateur who provokes the problems you want to stop. If you want to stop them, instead of telling us to leave it out, how about telling him to leave it out?

P.S. PK is fine with me on anything outside these issues. I don't have any problem with him in most areas and we can have civil and rational discussions about other issues while being at each other's throats on the vendetta matters, which I'd like to bury and forget. I just wish to Christ we could do it, and if Easter ain't the best time then I don't know what is.

Rather than ordering us to leave it out, which hasn't worked despite numerous attempts, how about suggesting we all come together as men during the Easter feast which washed mankind of sin and shake hands and forget it, and lead new and better lives?

I'm willing to do it.

Rising Sun*
03-21-2008, 08:56 AM
PP. S.

I've done it. http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?p=121039#post121039

Rising Sun*
03-22-2008, 03:52 AM
PPP. S.

And it didn't work.

#6 at http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6624

At least I tried. :(

RifleMan20
03-23-2008, 10:25 PM
Can we all have peace, on this late easter day so we all can celebrate our savior, our messiah from ressurecting after he died for our sins, and if your another religion, just pass that

Firefly
03-31-2008, 05:33 PM
Firefly actually, his only two actions as moderatos has been to block The Dresden bombing topic and the one related with Falklands/Malvinas crimes, considering that he is involved with the british military that does not sound like impartial actions :rolleyes:

Lets clear a few things up here PK. The reasons I locked both of those topics, and unlocked them were nothing to do with the UK military. Both topics had descended into flaming and name calling, despite several warnings. Both situations were discussed in the Mods area.

As to your statement that the Chief mod isnt around, then thats plainly untrue. i may not be on here everyday but I do try and read every thread. I also have trust in my fellow Mods to do the right thing in a given situation.

Now you can take the following as a little bit of friendly advice for the future, or not if you wish to.

As long as Im Chief Mod here the policy of the site will remain unchanged and everyone will be treated equally. You all have the right to say what you want within the bounds of the site rules. everyone is allowed to have a voice whether they have made 20 posts or 4000 posts and no one is more valuable than another because of this. In my experience there is nothing worse than being dismissed because you are new to a site.

To do my job here I dont have to make 40 posts a day, all I have to do is provide what is asked of me. And what is asked of me now is to politely ask you to stop the obvious agenda that you are running against the Mods and certain site members here.

Thanks

Panzerknacker
03-31-2008, 06:30 PM
Lets clear a few things up here PK. The reasons I locked both of those topics, and unlocked them were nothing to do with the UK military. Both topics had descended into flaming and name calling, despite several warnings. Both situations were discussed in the Mods area


I dont remember well the Dresden Topic, but I had participate in the Malvinas one and I didnt call names to anibody. The topic is the Malvinas section so I suggest you to take a second look in order to confirmate my words.

The malvinas crimes topic was never discusse before you locked it. :rolleyes:


As to your statement that the Chief mod isnt around, then thats plainly untrue. i may not be on here everyday but I do try and read every thread. I also have trust in my fellow Mods to do the right thing in a given situation.


Well, that is the perception, that you are not here, sorry but that is the sensation.



As long as Im Chief Mod here the policy of the site will remain unchanged

The quality will not improve then :cool:


And what is asked of me now is to politely ask you to stop the obvious agenda that you are running against the Mods and certain site members here.


My problem is only with two Mods, I didnt had or have an agenda against any member of the Forum. Moreover seeing some abusive post in the off topic and feed back section seems all about the contrary.

Firefly
04-01-2008, 04:28 AM
PK, I'm not going to argue back and forth with you. You plainly dont like the way this site is run and havent for some time.

Its been obvious for a while. Your opinions are your opinions, you have registered them and I have noted them. Nothing you can do will change the way the site is run so I'm afraid you will just have to live with it or move on.

Cheers

Man of Stoat
04-01-2008, 06:01 AM
PK:

http://www.oag.state.tx.us/teens/images/screamingella.jpg

Rising Sun*
04-01-2008, 06:43 AM
PK,
...

I'm afraid you will just have to live with it or move on.

The Australian (and I suspect British) expression is 'Like it or lump it.'


PK, before you respond to any posts here, please think on this.

Despite your dissatisfaction with modding and other things since you ceased being a mod, everyone accepts that you have a great deal of knowledge in certain areas and that you make a useful contribution to the board in those areas.

Nobody wants to keep old disputes alive to no purpose.

So, how about just letting go of the past?

How about just accepting what Firefly said, as a mod giving you some very gentle but very wise advice, as the new regime?

How about just making a fresh start, and just contributing in your areas of knowledge?

This very tolerant board is about the only place you can make a fresh start without an apology, just by changing your behaviour.

So, how about doing it?

Treat this as an olive branch that doesn't require an acknowledgement of war between you and anyone else, but just as a symbol that if we all grasp it will avoid pointless bickering.

Panzerknacker
04-01-2008, 09:26 AM
PK, I'm not going to argue back and forth with you.


Humm, probably because you have no arguments.....:rolleyes:

Firefly
04-01-2008, 10:56 AM
Humm, probably because you have no arguments.....:rolleyes:

PM sent Mr rolleyes.......;)

Panzerknacker
04-01-2008, 12:08 PM
Received and replied.

Rising Sun*
04-02-2008, 07:19 AM
For 'tis the sport to have the engineer
Hoist with his own petar

Hamlet, III, iv



The word remains in modern usage in the phrase to be hoist by one's own petard, which means "to be harmed by one's own plan to harm someone else" or "to fall in one's own trap", literally implying that one could be lifted up (hoisted, or blown upward) by one's own bomb. Shakespeare used the now proverbial phrase in Hamlet. . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petard


From Robert Burns' poem To a Louse


O wad some Power the gift tae gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!
It wad frae mony a blunder free us


A modern English version would be

O would some Power the gift to give us
To see ourselves as others see us!
It would from many a blunder free us



Dear Clau as I know you probably are still around I suggest you a forum in wich you can insult twice a Moderator and still post there. #22 http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4256&page=2


L.R and Panzon, this is not the place to discuss about my perfomance as moderator and I have no apreciation whatsoever of the excesive liberties you both had taken towards my person. If somebody have a complain please direct that to the administrators, any more comments like the last 2 post I will deleted in a heartbit. #212 http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4983&page=15



Worry no more, I am passing the moderation bussines to the others Mod in this section since I am tired to deal with people who think every is against them. #44 http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4800&page=3


Apparently once some people have been a mod, they can't let it go http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=rU8KUucwQJY

Or give the current mods a fraction of the respect they demanded when they were modding.

Rising Sun*
04-02-2008, 07:44 AM
Humm, probably because you have no arguments.....:rolleyes:

Firefly has arguments.

You have quarrels.


Argument

2 a: a reason given in proof or rebuttal b: discourse intended to persuade

3 a: the act or process of arguing : argumentation b: a coherent series of statements leading from a premise to a conclusion


Quarrel

to find fault

1 : a ground of dispute or complaint

2 : a usually verbal conflict between antagonists :
altercation
synonyms quarrel, wrangle, altercation, squabble mean a noisy dispute usually marked by anger. quarrel implies heated verbal contention, stressing strained or severed relations which may persist beyond the contention <a quarrel nearly destroyed the relationship>. wrangle suggests undignified and often futile disputation with a noisy insistence on differing opinions <wrangle interminably about small issues>. altercation implies fighting with words as the chief weapon, although it may also connote blows <a loud public altercation>. squabble stresses childish and unseemly dispute over petty matters, but it need not imply bitterness or anger <a brief squabble over what to do next>.

Definitions from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary but, even allowing that it's an American dictionary, it fairly represents the meaning of those words.

Rising Sun*
04-02-2008, 09:37 AM
PK

A song, just for you.

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=tsEcdHj5FRo&feature=related

Digger
05-08-2008, 11:00 PM
I haven't been here for much of the year and I'm amazed at all the bitch slapping going on.

Get with the real world guys-this is a INTERNET forum dealing with subjects we love-the MILITARY, so get on with it-PLEASE.

If you want to flame someone, go outside into the real world and punch someone in the face. That will bring you back to earth very quickly in a number of ways.

Panzerknacker
05-09-2008, 08:31 AM
And your message is directed to whom ?

If you havent here for a while you are not aware that the discussion has been already let to a side, so you should think twice before wrote stuff like above that might cause trouble again.

Digger
05-09-2008, 10:01 AM
My opinion was not directed to anyone specifically, nor was it intended to cause trouble. As the thread is not closed I like any other member am entitled to an opinion.

It's my first opinion and I will stick to it thanks.

Rising Sun*
05-09-2008, 10:04 AM
And your message is directed to whom ?

If you havent here for a while you are not aware that the discussion has been already let to a side, so you should think twice before wrote stuff like above that might cause trouble again.

Yeah, Digger, mate, it's been over for a while.

P.S. This was typed while you were posting your last post.

Digger
05-09-2008, 04:36 PM
No sweat guys.;)

Rising Sun*
05-10-2008, 05:49 AM
No sweat guys.;)

No wuckers, mate. :D

herman2
01-20-2010, 09:39 AM
Maybe a stupid question, but I have wondered for siome time now....um, when I go in my profile there is a section on the right side that tells me how many people have visited my profile page, and it lists maybe up to 6 different names. The names come and go, depending on who and how many visit the profile page on any given period of time. My question is, how do I know who is the most recent visitor? is it the first name on the recent visitor list or is it the last name.?I wonder because I have had so many visitors, yet sometimes I keep seeing RS's name listed and I don't understand why he would be visiting my profile page so many times.I'm not a new member so I wonder if his name stays there forever, or does he really like me so much that he keeps visiting my profile page? I know when a new member shows up, and I view there profile page, i usually see one of the mods had previously visitied their prrofile page. Why they do that i don't know, nor care, but getting back to my question...what is the answer. Who is the most recent to visit the profile page..is it the first name or the last name? This question has been bothering me for some time....:oops:

flamethrowerguy
01-20-2010, 02:29 PM
Who is the most recent to visit the profile page..is it the first name or the last name?

No way to tell. The names of the last 10 users to visit your profile page are listed alphabetically.

herman2
01-20-2010, 02:54 PM
No way to tell. The names of the last 10 users to visit your profile page are listed alphabetically.

OHHHH...Now I get it.....so thats why You are #3 on my list.Its because its alphebetical....and all this time, I thought it was because you liked me!:D