Tanks and armor quiz (medium level)

[Sergej]

An odd vehicle with an odd name:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4745/563847xx3.jpg

[malarz_russ@hotmail.com]

Hiya, SergeJ, and all!

You picked a fairly good looking vehicle, as far as armored vehicles go! I'll give a few hints to our fellow armor advocates:

1. It's a final development of a long line of armored vehicles.
2. It was nicknamed "turtle" due to it's sloping armor.
3. The original design was developed by a car builder who was more sucessful at designing armored vehicles than cars.
4. His armored vehicles were a flop in his native country.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend and a Happy Labor Day to those of us in the US of A!

Russ
Proud son of Rose and Wes

[Churchill]

Librarian, a little help? :)

[Sergej]

A big help: This tank was armed with a M1932/34 45mm gun.
BTW: Malarz Russ would you check the aircraft quiz, there is
no picture...

[SS Ouche-Vittes]

what's this?

[Churchill]

A fantasy FT-17.

Still have to get Sergej's though...

[Sergej]

Ok, that become boring.
If anyone want to post a new one,
feel free.

[Churchill]

Go ahead. Just make it easier. ;)

[ww11freak34]

if there were germans behind i would i would pick c and if there werew no germans behind i would chose e and how much ts-1and 2s would there be

[Sergej]

if there were germans behind i would i would pick c and if there werew no germans behind i would chose e and how much ts-1and 2s would there be:confused: I'm confused.
This is easier:

[the_librarian]

I just found this thread....how do I start?????

[AirdefMike]

:confused: I'm confused.
This is easier:


That is the Finnish BT-42 Light Assault Gun converted from captured Soviet BT-7 tanks.

The Finnish swastika kinda reveals it quite quickly.

[Sergej]

Yes, you're right!
Please carry on.

[Churchill]

Sergej, I think this thread has been forgotten. Why don't you go ahead?

[Sergej]

Ok, this one is easy. What is the most strange in this photo?

[Major Walter Schmidt]

Panzerkampfwagen 8 Maus

[Sergej]

Correct!
I attached an other photo from same event.
Your turn!

[Major Walter Schmidt]

Its the house-on-tracks!!!

[malarz_russ@hotmail.com]

Hiya, Major Schmidt!

Thats an easy one... a Sherman DD!

Russ
Proud son of Rose and Wes

[Churchill]

So go ahead and post another pic! :D

[Major Walter Schmidt]

Yay! Russ is correct! I was in a hurry at that time... as if you guys will believe me..:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

[Churchill]

I believe you... You may not believe me though.

[malarz_russ@hotmail.com]

Hello, y'all!

Go ahead Major Schmidt, take your time and post another one...

Russ
Proud son of Rose and Wes

[Major Walter Schmidt]

Hey, churchill, you do it.

[Churchill]

Yeah, but I can never get really good ones. Anyway, I'm busy this weekend, so Walter, I believe it's up to you(or anybody else who wishes to have a go at it). Librarian should post one.

[Panther F]

Oh, come on Churchy ... you can do it! :rolleyes:

[Major Walter Schmidt]

Yeah, but I can never get really good ones. Anyway, I'm busy this weekend, so Walter, I believe it's up to you(or anybody else who wishes to have a go at it). Librarian should post one.

Good idea, libby, you do it.

[Librarian]

Wery well, gentlemen. Tell me, please - what is this?

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/Langnasen/0004.jpg

[Major Walter Schmidt]

its the KFZ.13.

[Major Walter Schmidt]

http://www.autogallery.org.ru/k/aa/adlerPzwagenRW-3160_X.jpg

[Librarian]

Two minutes? Well, that’s certainly is a new record, my dear Herr Major! My sincerest congratulations! :D

Please - proceed.

[Major Walter Schmidt]

Hmm.....
this good?

[tom!]

left:
A japanese type 98 railroad car

right :
A japanese type 91 armoured railroad car, not to be mixed uo with the very similar Chiyoda armoured car (also known as Aikoku armoured car)


Both could be used on railway tracks and roads.

[Major Walter Schmidt]

You are correct!

[tom!]

Hi.

Something more difficult, I hope:

http://www.heartsofiron.eu/forum/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=3368

Yours

tom! ;)

[malarz_russ@hotmail.com]

Hiya. Tom!

Good choice... your selection is the Danish Forsoegs Panser number 1, also known as the FP-1. An experimental armored truck dating from 1931, it was basically a commercial truck fitted with an armored body. It and FP-2 served up until WWII.

Russ
Proud son of Rose and Wes

[Churchill]

Yeah, you can see by the running boards that it was a converted truck.

[tom!]

Again too easy (as I feared... :D)

Your turn

[malarz_russ@hotmail.com]

Hello, Tom!

I would like to pass my turn to Churchill...

Churchill, puzzle us!

Russ
Proud son of Rose and Wes

[Churchill]

No darn it! I don't want a turn! But since you obviously won't let me rest about this, here:

[Librarian]

Modification of a Soviet tractor, known as KhTZ 16, my dear Mr. Prime Minister? Here is a direct link:

http://www.ww2f.com/weapons-wwii/22538-soviet-odessa-tank.html

[Librarian]

The only problem is that the factual Soviet designation is NI - 1 "На испуг" (НИ-1). Here it is:

http://www.kubinka-tank-inform.ru/ni01.htm

[Churchill]

Yeah... I can't hide things from you, Librarian... Have fun.

[Librarian]

Thank you, my dear Mr. Prime Minister. I hope that our next task will be funny for you as well! So, here it is. Therefore please - take a good look and tell us what was the oficial designation of this armored vehicle? ;)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/Langnasen/00055.jpg

[tom!]

Hi.

My guess:

Automitrailleuse de Cavalerie type Reconnaissance Renault modèle 1933 (AMR 33) prototype No. 79758 with the improved suspension tested in April 1933

Yours

tom! ;)

[Librarian]

Absolutely correct and very detailed answer, my dear Mr. Tom! It is a clear indication of your truly professional expertise in this specific field and your first-grade knowledge, always wholeheartedly and unconditionally shared with your colleagues dispersed worldwide.

I want to thank you for the all of the effort you are putting into dissemination of the first-rate materials, as well as for sharing your precious resources and assistance all along the way. I am assuring you that we realy do appreciate your support to our community.

And now, my dear Sir – please, take your turn! :D

[tom!]

Hi.

http://www.heartsofiron.eu/forum/images/smilies/hae_wie_jetzt.png


A nice one:

http://www.heartsofiron.eu/forum/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=3555

Yours

tom! ;)

[Librarian]

Oh, what a pleasant surprise - another Czechoslovakian rarity, prototype of the Škoda Š-III, my dear Mr. Tom. Here you have a direct link:

http://utocnavozba.wz.cz/foto/siii-1.jpg

Thank you! :D

[tom!]

Again too easy...
:twisted:

Your turn

[malarz_russ@hotmail.com]

Heya, Tom!

I know how you feel... I'd post something that I thought would be a real "stumper" either here or in the Airplanes Quiz and someone would come back with an answer in about 9 minutes... probably wasn't such a stumper! There's some pretty sharp characters that lurk around here, makes it more challenging!

Russ
Soon-to-be AIRMAN
Proud son of Rose and Wes

[tom!]

That´s not a real problem.

It just leads to something higher than a medium level quiz....

Next times I´ll choose real hard ones :mrgreen:

[Librarian]

Well, in that case perhaps this one will be a little bit trickier, my dear gentlemen:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/Langnasen/0001.jpg

Do you recognize this… pretty rare contraption? ;)

[tom!]

Hm, maybe the hungarian experimental 75 mm tank hunter based on the Toldi light tank?

[Librarian]

Correct, my dear Mr. Tom – official designation of this vehicle was 75 mm-es Önjáró páncéltörő löveg M 38, built in February of 1944 upon M 38 Toldi chassis. Here you have a slightly better snapshot:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/Langnasen/00031.jpg

Your turn again, my dear Sir! :D

[Churchill]

Not cool Librarian... Showing the back of things... ;)

[Librarian]

Oh, so sorry my dear Mr. Prime Minister – but everything is utterly intellectually undemanding when those national markings are right there in front of us. That spirit of a true, tricky mistery in that case is completely absent. :)

BTW: diverse perspectives – if honestly presented! – are always intriguing.;)

[Churchill]

Eh, we'll see when Tom! posts his. Then we'll see whose laughing... :)

[tom!]

OK, let´s take another rear view

http://www.heartsofiron.eu/forum/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=3633

[Churchill]

I'll say an R-35 missing a track protector, an exhaust pipe, and the spare road wheel on the back, but I'm probably wrong.

[tom!]

No, it´s a serial production vehicle without missing parts except the number plate.

[Churchill]

It was worth a shot... :)

[malarz_russ@hotmail.com]

Hiya, Tom!

I'd like to offer that your submission is a Japanese 75mm self-propelled howitzer on a "Chi-Nu" medium tank chassis.

Russ
Soon-to-be AIRMAN
Proud son of Rose and Wes

[tom!]

Near miss. :mrgreen:

[Librarian]

Well then... perhaps our special guest star is Experimental Tank Type 2 HO-I, my dear Mr. Tom?

[tom!]

More or less correct.

The tank was not experimental. He was officially adopted in 1942 under the designation type 2 gun tank Ho-I but with the revolving turret it was more a CS-tank than a SPG.

It was armed with a type 99 75 mm tank gun (a modified type 95 75 mm field gun) in a remodelled Shinhoto-type turret. The prototype was based on the type 97 Chi-Ha but the serial production vehicles were built using the Type 1 medium tank Chi-He chassis and superstructure. A total of 30 vehicles were built and assigned to the 4th tank division.

Your turn.

[Librarian]

Thank you very much, my dear Mr. Tom. And now, honorable ladies and gentlemen – back to the wheels again! Tell me please, what was the official designation of this completely forgotten contraption? :)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/Langnasen/000055.jpg

[Sergej]

I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's the rear part of the Alvis Straussler Armoured Car.

[Librarian]

Very good observation, my dear Mr. Sergej – our mystery vehicle was the very first prototype of the Alvis Straussler LAC-1, ordered by British Government and manufactured in 1938 back there in the Csepel factory (Budapest, Hungary). It was refused by British armed forces, but almost accepted for service within the Royal Hungarian Army.

My sincerest congratulations! You have your well-deserved turn again.:D

[Sergej]

Thank you Librarian.

Here is my offer. It looks like a mixture of three different vehicles,
but it shouldn't make to many problems to solve this.
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/1323/346415kx0.jpg

[Librarian]

Oh, what a nice snapshot of that cute Romanian R-1 light tank! :)

It was a wonderful little runner based upon the CKD AH – IV. Here you have another nice snapshot:

http://www.worldwar2.ro/foto/?id=50&section=19&article=235

[Churchill]

Hey Librarian and others, where do you find your info on these tanks? I hope you don't do it all be Googling things...

[Sergej]

Correct as always Librarian!
If you don't have any idea about a quest,
like me abouit the 75 mm-es Önjáró páncéltörő löveg M 38,
you should use google. If you has any known parts like the
chassis, you can look on serval sites espacialy for the coutrys
and maybe for exported or captured and converted machines.
That's my way to find something, but I would like to know how
other people solve it.
And yes, it's your turn Librarian.

[Churchill]

I have no clue about anything on any of these. I'm just going by looks, and you guys know all the specs and everything... This is like fighting a guy with a Tiger using a Colt... This is kind of fun.

[Librarian]

Thank you, my dear Mr. Sergej. In the very same time, I have to admit that my methods are the very same as yours. You see, my dear Mr. Prime Minister, different armored vehicles are usually manufactured by implementation of some standardized components, distinctly unique in their appearance. For example, numerous Czechoslovakian constructions used relatively large, rubber-rims riveted roadwheels with 32 rivets – not spoked wheels, monoblock wheels or perforated wheels. Look at every authentic ČKD construction (TNHP, TNHB, TNHS) and you will be able to see that riveted wheels are representing one completely clearly visible common denominator of the Czechoslovakian tank industry.

And that is only the beginning of every meticulous, but in the very same time almost automatically conducted visual examination. With a litlle bit of patience, and with a fraction of circumspection you will be able to identify almost every armored vehicle produced on this planet. :)

Here you have another completely clear snapshot (almost a portraiture-quality one!) of a less-known vehicle, which used completely standardized, already available, utterly distinctive mechanical components. Concentrate on the chassis, suspension, wheels and cannon. I am assuring you that the proper answer will be in your possession very soon!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/Langnasen/00011.jpg

[Churchill]

Hah, all that sounds good Librarian, but I don't know any parts used in most of these things, and I certainly don't know about what was produced where.

[Librarian]

No problem at all, my dear Mr. Prime Minister – please, be a little bit more patient and just compare all those vital things - you will be able to reach your success. :)

For example, this armored vehicle evidently has not those large single road wheels, but it has the suspension with two axles, each of which carries a four bogie-wheels interconnected with a leaf springs and levers, as well as four top rollers. Obviously, this is neither German nor French construction… ;)

[Churchill]

It isn't German? O.O'

[navyson]

I'm glad you all are giving some info on finding these vehicles. I'm with Churchill on having a hard time looking for things. But it's been fun to read and look for the postings.

[navyson]

Bump, someone want to get started again? (Someone except me):D

[Sergej]

That's really tricky, in the first it's something familar, but on the second look:
It's not a Semovente, not a Vickers not a Japanese or Czech or Hungarian.
I suspect the British, but I need a hint:roll:

[Churchill]

A Czech Marder with pierced armour design... There... I guessed. :D

[Librarian]

So sorry for my protracted silence, honorable ladies and gentlemen! Unfortunately, I was beleaguered with my current professional obligations at the International Book Fair in Belgrade, but I think that very soon I will be able to serve you in full capacity.

And no, my dear Mr. Prime Minister – this is not a Czechoslovakian vehicle. However, I am taking the liberty to draw your attention to an almost incredible, but very important fact: this vehicle has the engine compartment at the front of the chassis! ;)

[Churchill]

Israeli.

[1917]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/IS3.jpg

have at it

[Churchill]

JS-3.

The other one seems Israeli to me...

[Librarian]

Israeli self-propelled gun, produced in the WW2? :shock:

Alas, my dear Mr. Prime Minister, that kind of a… rarity is completely out of this world. :roll:

[Churchill]

I'm just saying things...

Italian 90/53 Self-Propelled Gun.

[kamehouse]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/Langnasen/00011.jpg

Could it be one of the many Waffenträger prototypes?

[Panther F]

JS-3.



Actually it's an IS-3.

[flamethrowerguy]

Actually it's an IS-3.

If you want to be that exact it would be ИС-3. Both designation are used in western countries: IS = Iosif Stalin, JS = Joseph Stalin.;)

[Panther F]

if you want to be that exact it would be ИС-3. Both designation are used in western countries: Is = iosif stalin, js = joseph stalin.;)

lol ;)

[Librarian]

Italian 90/53 Self-Propelled Gun.

You mean Semovente 90/53, my dear Mr. Prime Minister? Well, this proposal of yours surely is a significant improvement in your analytic approach, however, your suggestion is still suffering from a deliberation fatigue.

First of all, our cannon evidently has a double-baffled muzzle brake, whereas Italian solution is not equipped with this recoil-reducing device. Furthermore, Italian vehicle has only three top rollers, whereas our mystery machine has four rollers beneath the track. However, I have to admit that this suggestion of yours is much more suitable than that previously mentioned one. Please – carry on! You are obviously on the right track. :D

Could it be one of the many Waffenträger prototypes?

No, my dear Mr. Kamehouse. Our vehicle is not connected with Germany. ;)

[tom!]

Hm....

Sorry, no idea.

Can you give a hint, please?

[Librarian]

Of course, my dear Mr. Tom: our machine was equipped with the 3.2 liters, one-piece-casted L-head petrol V 8 engine produced by Ford and capable to set free astonishing 85 HP! :)

[Sergej]

This is an Cañón Autopropulsado de 75/40 мм. "Verdaja".

[Librarian]

Exactly, my dear Mr. Sergej - Pieza Artillería autopropulsada de 75/40 mm Verdeja-I.

Bravo! :D

[Sergej]

That was a long search.

My offer: Yes the chassis is well-known
but what is the strange stuff on it?;)

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4060/ft17xc2.jpg

[Churchill]

Maybe a poison gas attack tank. The cones have lights in them, and the long tubes have a poison gas in them, to be detonated behind enemy lines... ;)

[Sergej]

Very good!:D

The gas isn't poisonous but you are definitely on the right track.

[Churchill]

I... I am??? I was just joking... How about those tanks on the sides are full of liquid. And the cones... I have no clue...

[Major Walter Schmidt]

Maybe its a hydogen-Peroxide run tank :mrgreen:.

Id bet its natural gas. Or maybe its a torpedo FT-17, who knows :mrgreen:

[Librarian]

Oh, my goodness: Polish smokescreen-generator variant of the Renault FT 17, developed and tested in 1926, and equipped with two cylinders with ammonium chloride! :shock:

Here is another snapshot of this machine:

http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/5248/polftsmoke5ir.jpg

[Major Walter Schmidt]

LOL :mrgreen: the Ninja tank :mrgreen:mrgreen:

[Sergej]

Correct Librarian!

Many projects of this time were surprisingly advanced,
just remember Teletanks or the Christie tanks of the
late '20, early '30.

Your turn!;)

[Librarian]

Completely agreed, my dear Mr. Sergej. And that’s exectly why we have here our new, very special armored rarity:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/Langnasen/005.jpg

As usually, accurate identification of the type will be your assignment. :)

[Churchill]

It was probably an amphibious tank, Russian maybe, with two turrets, probably holding machine guns, or a 37mm AT gun.

I have no clue. :mrgreen:

[Librarian]

Perfect evaluation, my der Mr. Prime Minister! Bravo! Therefore please – check all those Soviet tank designations and pick the right one. That hard-earned triumph will be completely yours! :D

[Major Walter Schmidt]

T-38?
T-28?(or was it T-27?)

[Librarian]

Alas, my dear Herr Major, the answer is – no. Nevertheless, you are close enough! :)

[Sergej]

That's one of innumerable variants of the T-26.
It's an amphibious T-26 M1931 with foldable
pontoons, which were stored in front and behind
the turrets. I don't know if the RKKA had an designation
for this tank, maybe ПТ-26...;)

[Librarian]

As always – direct hit! Yes, my dear Mr. Sergej – Легкий плавающий танк Т 26 was our armored guest star. Sincerest congratulations! :D

Please – carry on! ;)

[Sergej]

Thank you Librarian!

The T-26 is an amazing flexible tank, bridgelayers flamethrowers
and many selfpropelled guns were based on it. The 6-ton was
a truly successful design, in service from Bolivia to Thailand.

However, here is an other light Weight:
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3167/94848875ua0.jpg

[Churchill]

That looks like a fortress! It's massive!

It must be pre-WWII, because of the rivets, and again, 37mm guns, and a heavy and medium machine guns in the hull. Maybe some other machine guns in the sponsons in the turret.

Again, I'm just guessing...

[Librarian]

And you are pretty good in your deductive reasoning, my dear Mr. Prime Minister. The only thing you need is just a little bit more self-confidence. ;)

Our mystery machine is the US Marmon Herrington CTMS-ITBI tank.

[Sergej]

Quite right Librarian, but this one had a four-men crew.;)

[Librarian]

Oh, I see... well in that case our darling is the Marmon Herrington HMTLS-1GI4"Virgie". :D

[Sergej]

That's correct!

This tank was really massive but not due the armor or the wheight.
The armament consists of two 37mm guns (M6 I think), 4 machine guns
(three in the hull one on the turret side) and two mounts for anit-aircraft
machine guns(.50 cal.). but the tiny tank on it's left, the M22 Locust was
even heavier (in wheight).

Your turn Librarian, but where did you got this H in (H)MTLS-1GI4?

[Librarian]

Oh, that was only my subconscious addition for "Holland" - as for the whole of the Netherlands - since that vehicle actually also was known as "Dutch four man tank". :)

And now, honorable ladies and gentlemen, something completely different:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/Langnasen/0022.jpg

Please, put forward your solutions. ;)

[Major Walter Schmidt]

this one?
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/10_01/2PanzerPaintBNPS_468x306.jpg


Seriously, I think it looks Italian.

[Churchill]

Naw, that one has too many road wheels... :mrgreen:

[Major Walter Schmidt]

*Paintball panzer
http://www.geekologie.com/2007/10/panzer_paintball_tank_is_a_cut.php
That would be a cool way to go around town... paintball those pesky bumper stickers you dont like... :D:D:D

[Sergej]

That's a PZInż.160 tank hunter.

[Librarian]

On the Mark, my dear Mr. Sergej! My sincerest congratulations. It is your turn again. :D

[Sergej]

Thank you Librarian!

I'll have less time from now on, so I can't answer as quick as
before, but I'll still take part here. However here is my new riddle:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4853/27462452xk3.th.jpg (http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=27462452xk3.jpg)

not the biggest secret in the last 100 years but it's might be a small challange.

[tom!]

Hi.

This is the prototype of a bridgelayer based on the german Panzer II.

Official designation "Schnellbrücke auf Panzerkampfwagen II, Ausführung b"

Yours

tom! ;)

[kamehouse]

I thought it was the Brückenleger auf Panzerkampfwagen II Ausf b but it's probably the same tank with two different names.
Apparently only 4 were in service with the Pioneers of the 7. Pz.Div during the French Campaign.

[tom!]

Spielberger mentioned only one prototype in his Panzer I and II book. I got the designation from this book.

[Sergej]

My source designate it as Brückenlegepanzer II, but Schnellbrücke is also correct.
The modifications were made by the Magirus company.

Bitte fahren Sie fort Tom.;)

[tom!]

Mach´ ich doch glatt.... :D

Another vehicle:

http://www.heartsofiron.eu/forum/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=4246

[tom!]

OK, a small hint:

The pic was slightly retouched to remove a national marking...

[Churchill]

How about an early American/Russian MRLS?

[Major Walter Schmidt]

Looks Japanese but cant find it....

[tom!]

Looks Japanese but cant find it....

So far, so good...:mrgreen:

[Churchill]

Wow, was I ever off...:)

[SS Ouche-Vittes]

tom! so the Japanese used the same chassis as that of the pzmk3?

[tom!]

No german influences, sorry :D

[malarz_russ@hotmail.com]

Hiya, Tom!

I've managed to determine that it IS Japanese... unfortunately, the only reference I've found shows it as "Japanese tracked carrier, no further information". Darn!

Russ
FAA Airman *Pending*
Proud son of Rose and Wes

[Sergej]

Thats hard... is it based on this one?
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l224/viveckvivu/type92heavyarmouredcar.jpg

[tom!]

Yes, it is.

[Sergej]

That's all I could find.
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/552/experimentalcrawlertrucqi8.jpg

[Major Walter Schmidt]

It says "experimental tracked armored self propelled platform (or transporter)

[tom!]

That's all I could find.
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/552/experimentalcrawlertrucqi8.jpg

Bingo.

It was an Ishikawajima predecessor of the Ho-Ki full-tracked transport based on the type 92 heavily armoured vehicle

Your turn...

[Sergej]

Aligato Major Walter Schmidt! Vielen Dank Tom!
Here is my next one:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5276/vickerspziab3.jpg

[Churchill]

Wow! Nice suspension!

[malarz_russ@hotmail.com]

Hiya, SergeJ!

I'd have to say it's a Spanish prototype, the Carro Verdeja-1. This same vehicle provided the chassis to the mysterious self-propelled gun on page 40.

Russ
FAA Airman *Pending*
Proud son of Rose and Wes

[tom!]

Must be the second prototype from 1941, the first prototype had a different suspension and turret rear.

[Sergej]

You're both right!
Here some graphical addition:
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4512/escanear00030ja9ufuz0.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8841/escanear00042hd3cxqy7.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4877/escanear00018ca5tgdn9.jpg
But who's turn now? Malarz Russ was faster
but Tom's answer was more accurate. I don't know.:neutral:

[tom!]

Well, I´m handing the turn over to Mr. Russ as I hadn´t found it without his preparatory work...

:D

[malarz_russ@hotmail.com]

Hello, y'all!

I'd like to pass my turn back to Tom... I'm a lot better at figuring these out than I am at coming up with a suitable puzzler. That's my speciality, doing the research. Make it a good one Tom!

Russ
FAA Airman *Pending*
Proud son of Rose and Wes

[tom!]

OK. :army:

Something not so usual:

http://www.heartsofiron.eu/forum/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=4962

[Sergej]

Panzerova drezina Tatra Typ 18 or Armoured draisine Tatra!:)

[tom!]

Sorry, missed your replay.

And yes, correct.
Your turn

[tankgeezer]

OK. :army:

Something not so usual:

http://www.heartsofiron.eu/forum/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=4962
Its an amusement park ride,, the man standing is telling the shorter person "you must be this tall" to go on this ride. Sorry, couldnt help myself,,, :)

[Churchill]

Perfect. I wish I had thought of that. :)

[Sergej]

Some well-known details, some less-known details...

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/8766/1536456uv5.png

The rest is up to you.:)

[Librarian]

Oh, what a pleasurable surprise: Soviet self-propelled howitzer SU 5-2 (122 mm), based upon the T 26 chasis. Here is another direct link:

http://www.mk-armour.narod.ru/2003/b_02/Photo_43.jpg

[Sergej]

You are correct!
That's one of innumerable variants of the T-26.
This vehicle was used in the late '30 by the attack on Poland and also in the Far East. An the begin of the Great Patriotic War, 28 of this machines were still operational.
Your turn again! And maybe something wheeled...;)

[Librarian]

OK, my dear Mr. Sergej, here it is:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/Langnasen/00047.jpg

Do you recognize this armored contraption? :)

[Churchill]

How about a BA-64 equipped with tracks and runners to support the infantry in Finland...?

[Librarian]

Or more precisely: BA-64 BSCH. Excellent, my dear Mr. Prime Minister! As you can see, a long-term devotion always is finally fruitful. Please, proceed – it is your turn now. :D

[Churchill]

*Gasp* Wow! Give me a few hours, I'll try to come up with one that isn't too easy... Hopefully... ;)

[navyson]

Huzzah! Churchill got one right!:cool:

[Churchill]

Yup. What's this?

http://cfs4.tistory.com/upload_control/download.blog?fhandle=YmxvZzEyNTg0M0BmczQudGlzdG9y eS5jb206L2F0dGFjaC8wLzAxMDAwMDAwMDAwMS5qcGc=

And where is it from?

[malarz_russ@hotmail.com]

Hiya Churchill!

Interesting choice... the North Korean Peoples Army M1978 / M1989 170mm self-propelled gun. Commonly known in the west as the "Koksan" gun due to where it was first seen. It is armed with what is thought to be an ex-navel or coast defense gun of "indeterminate" origin, mounted on a T-54 / 55 type chassis. This is the largest of the NKPA's conventional artillery. See: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/m-1978-170.htm

Russ
FAA Airman *Pending*
Proud son of Rose and Wes

[Churchill]

Yup. Good job Malarz.

[Sergej]

Seems like everyone is a bit busy now.
Here's something for the interim period:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6882/51513us2.jpg

[Churchill]

Hah, kind of looks like a Bison II self-propelled light howitzer.

[Sergej]

Very good" But it's not the Bison II. You almost hit the caliber,
it differs in only in 1mm.

[Churchill]

1mm? Dang...

[kamehouse]

The chassis looks Italian,Semovente da 149/40?

[Sergej]

You are right! :)

It was the biggest Italian self propelled gun.
In that case it's known as:
"gepanzerte Selbstfahrlette M 43 mit 15 L/42 854(i)".

Your turn!

[kamehouse]

What is this ?
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee44/kamehouse-uk/XA3-1.jpg

[Major Walter Schmidt]

Looks like TKS..
TKS Tankette APC????

[tom!]

Hi.

That´s a soviet T-20 "Komsomolez" light gun tractor.

click me (http://www.o5m6.de/komsomolez.html)

Yours

tom! ;)

[kamehouse]

Correct.It lasted more than 10 hours!
Your turn then.

[tom!]

Hi.

OK, time for something slightly different:

What quite well-known serial production vehicle is welded together here?

http://www.heartsofiron.eu/forum/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=5673

Yours

tom! ;)

[Churchill]

Thanks Tom!, it was hard enough for some of us already, and now you just kicked me while I was down... Thanks man... ;)

JK, BTW. :)

[tom!]

Hi.

I hope that even a crack like Mr. Russ is not able to define the type of afv without narrowing it down to few possibilities.

:D

Yours

tom! ;)

[Librarian]

Well, if we break the ice, we should be more relaxed and be able to build upon. :)

So here is my proposal, honorable Mr. Tom: perhaps we are observing the hull welding station of the StuG IV at the Friedrich Krupp – Grusonwerk AG, Magdeburg.

[tom!]

No, sorry.

This pic was taken in a Rhein/Ruhr Area city

[Librarian]

Oh… Well then - what actually we had down there in the Ruhrgebiet during the WW2 connected with the armored vehicles production? If I remembered that well, Deutsche Eisenwerke AG at Duisburg had there truly disproportionate concentration of armored vehicles production - Sturmpanzer IV Brummbär (Sd.Kfz.166), Flakpanzer IV Möbelwagen (Sd.Kfz.161/3), 15cm Schwere Panzerhaubitze Hummel (Sd. Kfz. 165)... just to mention some well known examples. :)

If our mysterious production facility really was located there... well, then my next guessing will be that we are observing a welding procedure of the Sturmpanzer IV Brummbär. ;)

[tom!]

Sturmpanzer IV Brummbär is wrong.

[Librarian]

Gee, what a pleasant surprise… Well, here we go again: perhaps Hummel, my dear Mr. Tom? :D

[Churchill]

O.O Librarian got one wrong!?!?!?

I never thought that would happen... :)

[navyson]

O.O Librarian got one wrong!?!?!?

I never thought that would happen... :)

:shock::D

[wingsofwrath]

Hmm... for s reason I can't see the picture.

Mr Tom, would you be so kind to post it again so we could all take a shot at this mystery?

[malarz_russ@hotmail.com]

Hello, y'all!

Just dropping a message to "re-muddy" the waters, so to say!

Thanx for the compliment Tom, I'll have to do some digging for a book or two and hopefully I can come up with an answer for your puzzler!

I hope everyone had a good holiday, and will have a Safe, Healthy, Happy, and Prosperous New Year!

Russ
FAA Airman
Proud son of Rose and Wes