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genkideskan
10-03-2007, 12:16 PM
The basic work about the german Military Cartridge 7,92mm - used in many nations with different bullets- to that the basics about german M/71 11mm ammo and the early 7,92mm M/88 with round head.


http://munfrosch.livejournal.com/2142.html

Panzerknacker
10-03-2007, 07:15 PM
Thanks for the 60 mb of information.



you mean the main round for the rifles


In no place of GK post said "main round"

genkideskan
10-04-2007, 08:17 PM
Thanks,

thats the sense of these forums - share information.

Panzerknacker
10-04-2007, 08:56 PM
By the way Lothar.. wich was the use of the "Panzergeschoss" solid steel shot ? armor piercing ?

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6786/pzec7.jpg

genkideskan
10-05-2007, 05:06 PM
Yes it is a solid hardened steel bullet with a sort of copper driving band.

For trials these bullets where loaded on 8 x 57 cases. They where developed to used in the Patrone 318 for Panzerbüchsen.
The production was complicated and the results where not better than the normal jacket bullets with core, hard core or tungsten.
They are not that rare.

genkideskan
10-05-2007, 05:36 PM
Here are several drawings of the basic shapes of Panzergeschoss (AP Bullet).
They are all more or less complicated to mass produce and so the trials where dropped.
A must have for your references Panzerjäger :-):shock:

Panzerknacker
10-05-2007, 07:19 PM
Beautiful drawings.

that is complicated...8 mm bullets with driving band, but I guess must be in order to no destroy the inner rifling of the tube after a single shot :cool:



A must have for your references Panzerjäger


You bet, including those rare profiles of the 7,9x82B

genkideskan
10-05-2007, 09:36 PM
Heres an real gem - a crate full of german SmK H ammo - and a nice thread about the different versions.

http://cartridgecollectors.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2045

genkideskan
10-06-2007, 08:39 AM
Yes it works like an artillery shell. Here is an close up of an Panzergeschoss

Panzerknacker
10-06-2007, 09:45 AM
Heres an real gem - a crate full of german SmK H ammo - and a nice thread about the different versions.

http://cartridgecollectors.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2045

Incredible, so many tusgten ammo neves issued, I read that most of the wolfram ammunition was turned back to saver the hard core in order to fabricate cuttings tools for lathes and mills, but seems that was not the case.