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Flammpanzer
09-22-2007, 12:26 PM
hello again!

maybe there was such a topic here, if so, please delete. since I am a bit in shooting and I know that a lot of US-users are around here, I asked myself if you own guns and if yes, which ones. I am also interested to know how you use them (hunting, self defence, sports, collecting etc.) and if you are satisfied with the specific types.

so please be so kind and post pics and brief descriptions of your shooting material.

as you might know, it is not easy to get a gun here in Germany, but I own a springfield armory .45 acp stainless pistol. I use it for sports-shooting and for home defence. a nicely made gun with a great precision-potential (if the shooter is able to shoot:D). it comes well equipped with jet funnel, fine checkering, adj. sights, trigger stop, commander hammer, ambidextrous safety and many other features.

next week I will receive a british made sabre defence XR 15 M5 - a semi-auto copy of the AR-15/M-16-assault-rifle in .223 Rem with a 16,75` barrel.

jens

Panzerknacker
09-22-2007, 05:16 PM
Did you think that the german gun laws are complicated ?....ha ...try to make the paperwork for a 9mm in Argentina and you ll see. :rolleyes:

the mines

.22 magnum a bolt rifle.

Bersa Thunder 9mm

Bersa Thunder .22lr

IGA 12/76 over and under

Rubi 16/70 single shot shotgun.

I have no decent pictured of guns right now.

BY the way that is a beautiful .45

Gutkowski
09-22-2007, 07:12 PM
I have a few that I shoot
S&W model 15 38 cal police/military
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/IMG_1432.jpg

Savage Stevens Model 124 bolt action shot gun (I have not shot it yet )
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/IMG_1610_2.jpg

Auto Ordnance 1911A1
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/IMG_0840.jpg

Auto Ordnance M1928A1 you see all the ATF here LOL Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/IMG_0032.jpg

Gutkowski
09-22-2007, 07:13 PM
M1 Carbine Rockola
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/DSCF0730.jpg

M28 Civil Guards Rifle
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/DSCF0670.jpg

M1 Garand
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/My%20WWII%20Collection/m1.jpg

Sergeant Dorr
09-22-2007, 10:06 PM
I shoot an MP-5

Flammpanzer
09-23-2007, 02:08 AM
Did you think that the german gun laws are complicated ?....ha ...try to make the paperwork for a 9mm in Argentina and you ll see.

thanks, panzerknacker. and yes, it our gun laws complicated and restrictive compared to most other countries. first, you have to be a hunter (complicated here and very expensive) or a sport-shooter. you have to shoot at least one year in a club, than you can ask for a gun. the sports-shooting-federation has to allow this specific gun which you want to buy. but to get one at least, you may not have commited any crimes at all (even the little ones, the police checks this out properly), than you have to make a test (after an instruction course of at least one or two days, practical and theoretical) with an exam at the end. pistols and revolvers are limited to two, semi-auto rifles up to three. you are not allowed to carry them. in the end, it is a long, complicated and expensive way to own a gun, so many quit before they start to think about it. I presume in most US states (and other countries, f.e. belgium or whole scandinavia) it is much easier to get a gun.

some really nice weapons here, btw.

jens

Chevan
09-23-2007, 04:32 AM
Auto Ordnance M1928A1 you see all the ATF here LOL Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/IMG_0032.jpg
Yea .. the computer, beer, Tobacco and excellent automatic rifle - that is all you really need. .....For the discussion;)

Cheers.,

Chevan
09-23-2007, 04:39 AM
Did you think that the german gun laws are complicated ?....ha ...try to make the paperwork for a 9mm in Argentina and you ll see. :rolleyes:

Well may be except the states like Russia where home firearms is forbidden....( except the hunting rifles). If you are have not the special Guard certufication - you could use the firearms pistols legally.

Flammpanzer
09-23-2007, 07:09 AM
well, I have to mention that I am not very surprised to see some really nice classic WW2 weapons here.

another problem with the gun laws here is that they change every 5-10 years - drastically. the last change was in 2003, another is yet to come. often, idiots like him (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amoklauf_von_Erfurt) are the reason.

jens

Panzerknacker
09-23-2007, 06:36 PM
thanks, panzerknacker. and yes, it our gun laws complicated and restrictive compared to most other countries. first, you have to be a hunter (complicated here and very expensive) or a sport-shooter. you have to shoot at least one year in a club, than you can ask for a gun. the sports-shooting-federation has to allow this specific gun which you want to buy. but to get one at least, you may not have commited any crimes at all (even the little ones, the police checks this out properly), than you have to make a test (after an instruction course of at least one or two days, practical and theoretical) with an exam at the end. pistols and revolvers are limited to two, semi-auto rifles up to three. you are not allowed to carry them. in the end, it is a long, complicated and expensive way to own a gun, so many quit before they start to think about it. I presume in most US states (and other countries, f.e. belgium or whole scandinavia) it is much easier to get a gun.Wel I must say that actually is more complicated than Argentina, in here you just need to be a registered worker, no need to be afiliated to any sporting association.
Well may be except the states like Russia where home firearms is forbidden..My sincere condolences.Nice Garand there Gutkowski.

George Eller
09-24-2007, 01:51 AM
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I have fired all of the weapons that I own or have owned with the exception of the SKS Model 59/66 (haven't got around to that yet). Others that I have owned but sold off are not pictured with the exception of the AR-15.

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I have two Lee-Enfield rifles:
SMLE No 1 Mk III* made at a BSA (Birmingham Small Arms, Co.) controlled company near Birmingham in Shirley, England in 1940.
and No 4 Mk I* made at the Long Branch Arsenal near Toronto, Canada in 1942
Both have issue slings and bayonets.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8600/5enfield15jo.jpg
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Same as above with slightly different lighting:
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2161/6enfield86uo.jpg

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Top is my Yugoslavian made SKS Model 59/66 rifle with Russian steel cased 7.62 x 39 mm ammo. Bottom is my brother's M-1 Garand rifle with eight round clip of .30-06 ammo
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4216/8sksm132rh.jpg

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Top is my Ruger Mini-14 (customized with folding buttstock, bipod, etc.) with extra 30-round clips. Bottom is my Ithaca Model 37 slide action 12 gauge riot gun. At right is my Smith & Wesson Model 1955 revolver (.45 ACP) with Model 1917 walnut grips and two half-moon clips of .45 ACP rounds.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6086/9mini1419eu.jpg

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Close up of half-moon clips loaded with .45 ACP rounds, 5.56 x 45mm cartridge, Russian 7.62 x 39mm cartridge, British .303 cartridge, and British Martini-Henry .577-.450 caliber cartridge (of Zulu War fame).
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2233/ammocomparison0bx.jpg

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The Martini-Henry round is a relic from my father's old gun collection of the 1960' - 70's. He sold his Martini-Henry about 1978. Below is a picture of him posing in front of his collection about 1967. Top to bottom: M-1 Carbine, Model 1891 Argentine Mauser, Springfield 1903A3 (Smith & Corona mfr.-1943) and at the bottom is the Martini-Henry. Dad had sporterized both the Mauser and Springfield.
http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/8881/dadwithrifles1960s8nt.jpg

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Colt AR-15 which I sold about 1986.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8743/2coltar151ur.jpg

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Chevan
09-24-2007, 02:55 AM
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Colt AR-15 which I sold about 1986.


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Oh George - you are seller the wearpon?;)
Then farther - then more amazing news about members in here;)

Panzerknacker
09-24-2007, 08:46 AM
Beautiful collection George :D

jacobtowne
09-24-2007, 09:39 AM
I am also interested to know how you use them (hunting, self defence, sports, collecting etc.)


All of the above. I have a carry gun, some military handguns in my collection, commercial handguns for target shooting, rifles and shotguns for hunting.

Fine collections here, gentlemen.


U.S. Pistol, Model of 1911, cal. 45. Made by Colt, shipped November, 1917. Mills cartridge belt and pouch, Warren holster, all dated 1918.

Smith & Wesson M625, cal. .45ACP, discovered under the Christmas tree last December.:D

JT

Sergeant Dorr
09-24-2007, 11:01 AM
I also have this Puppy right here

Sergeant Dorr
09-24-2007, 11:02 AM
damn, can anyone help me get a picture up there

Splinter54
09-24-2007, 01:12 PM
Upload it here:
http://www.imageshack.us/

Get the 'Tumbnails for Forums' line and copy it into your reply ;)

jacobtowne
09-24-2007, 02:43 PM
damn, can anyone help me get a picture up there

Below the message box there is an "attach files" ( "manage attachments") function that allows you to upload directly from your computer.

JT

Panzerknacker
09-24-2007, 05:58 PM
I am also interested to know how you use them (hunting, self defence, sports, collecting etc.) and if you are satisfied with the specific types.

I forgot to aswer this, actually I have most for hunting, fox, hares, partrigde, ducks.

Satisfied ? well, the CZ is a very nice gun and very accurate one, the brazilian shotgun is not excellent but works decently.

In regards of my argentine pistols..I am not satisfied, I am inlove man.

http://guns4u.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/thunder-9-1.jpg

George Eller
09-24-2007, 09:32 PM
Oh George - you are seller the wearpon?;)
Then farther - then more amazing news about members in here;)
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Well Chevan, I am not really a gun dealer although I do have a "Collector of Curios and Relics" license. It allows me to buy certain types of firearms at similar cost to what a dealer would pay (wholesale). It also involves records and paperwork to be kept according to BATF regulations. For the types that I collect now, it works out fine. The AR-15 was sold back to a dealer at the time. :)

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Beautiful collection George :D
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Thanks Panzerknacker :D

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All of the above. I have a carry gun, some military handguns in my collection, commercial handguns for target shooting, rifles and shotguns for hunting.

Fine collections here, gentlemen.


U.S. Pistol, Model of 1911, cal. 45. Made by Colt, shipped November, 1917. Mills cartridge belt and pouch, Warren holster, all dated 1918.

Smith & Wesson M625, cal. .45ACP, discovered under the Christmas tree last December.:D

JT
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Thanks JT :)

You have a pretty fine collection yourself.

And to the rest of the members who posted pics of their firearms - thanks guys. Great collections. :)

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Flammpanzer
09-25-2007, 03:47 AM
Satisfied ?

yep. ;)

the pic you displayed here seems to be a pretty close copy ot the WALTHER P-88, right? at least the outer design is close to it. I have never heard about BERSA before, so it is interesting for me.

jens

Sergeant Dorr
09-25-2007, 10:49 AM
I have This baby right here, Bushmaster M17S. Bullpup. 223 rifle. This is my only gun (other than a winchester 30-30 but I don't have a picture.

Panzerknacker
09-25-2007, 01:43 PM
yep. ;)

the pic you displayed here seems to be a pretty close copy ot the WALTHER P-88, right? at least the outer design is close to it. I have never heard about BERSA before, so it is interesting for me.


http://images.google.com.ar/images?hl=es&q=bersa%20thunder%209mm&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

Flammpanzer
09-26-2007, 06:15 AM
okay, here another one (allthough it is more a toy than a real gun) which I sold for my .45 recently. it is a russian-built, CO2-powered rifle (called YUNKER 3) that fires 18 4,5mm round BB-bullets in a semi-auto-mode. you all know them from typical airrifles, like those from MARKSMAN/USA. those things are free here, if you are 18 years and above. the energy is under 7,5 joule. the intesting thing is that this gun was built in the same factory (izhmash in ishevsk), where the real AK-101, AK-74, AKM and others are made. most parts (except the barrel and some details) are identical to the real assault rifle. it is more for collectors than for serious shooters, anyway it is a nice to have item. :rolleyes:

jens

Flammpanzer
09-26-2007, 06:19 AM
some more pics of the cute plinking-gun/toy. btw: you cannot rebuilt to a real gun ... :neutral: I have read, that in russia they have full-auto versions of this type.

jens

Sergeant Dorr
09-26-2007, 07:21 AM
I went out and bought this 308 yesterday and a couple other guns

Sergeant Dorr
09-27-2007, 11:08 AM
and what I use them for... My JOB

bas
09-28-2007, 12:48 AM
My guns?

German:
P.08
P.38
P.35(b) (Browning HP)
P.35(p) (Polish Radom)
MP.40
MP.43
MP.44
Kar98k
MG.34
G.43

Russian:
Nagant m1895 x2
TT.33 x2
PPSh-41
PPS-43
SVT-40 x2
Mosin Nagant m38
Mosin Nagant m44 x2
Mosin Nagant m91/30 x7
Mosin Nagant PU sniper
DP-27
Maxim 1910

Other:
No 4 mkI* x2
Vz.33
Type 56
Type 84
FN FAL G.1
Beretta m34 x2
Finnish m91-24
Finnish m27
Beretta 92fs
Browning Buck-mark .22
Ruger 10/22
Parker Hale .308
Russian Tigr
Ruger Old army
some .45-70 rolling block
Brno Zkk601 .308
Toz m-17
Type-38 carbine
m1 carbine
Portugese m1904/38 mauser
Carcano m38 carbine

I think thats the lot. Of course I only shoot a fraction of those, in part because I hate cleaning guns and also because some I'm not allowed to (like the full-autos). I also have my favourites that I shoot the most.

Sergeant Dorr
09-28-2007, 09:39 AM
why so many

bas
09-28-2007, 02:20 PM
why so many

It's my hobby; some people collect stamps, I collect guns.

Sergeant Dorr
09-28-2007, 06:33 PM
It's my hobby; some people collect stamps, I collect guns.

I know I collect them for my job. You should check out the Iraq Thread and see some of the wepons I took of of dead Iraqi soldiers

Cuts
10-06-2007, 06:43 PM
I know I collect them for my job. You should check out the Iraq Thread and see some of the wepons I took of of dead Iraqi soldiers

Is that Sgt Dorr or Sgt Mitty ?

Firefly
10-08-2007, 07:14 AM
Shame really. He wasnt disruptive at all and actually contributed to the Forum. Ah well, such is life.... Some people cant resist it.

Rising Sun*
10-08-2007, 08:55 AM
And for the real Morgan Dorr, lead singer of Endway, http://www.myspace.com/endway

As for Sgt Dorr's avatar, the 10th Mountain Div has been around in wars old and new, including Iraq. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/10mtn.htm

Gutkowski
10-08-2007, 06:58 PM
I just picked this up today

Flammpanzer
10-15-2007, 10:53 AM
allright, here is my second gun: a sabre defence XR-15 M5 in .223 rem. it is a semi-auto rifle, mil spec with a 2 stage trigger, orig. carry sling and a special pistol grip.

great fun to shoot and a really cool item. :mrgreen: I like the light-weight-feeling compared to the heavy heckler und koch G-3 I used during my army-service.

jens

Flammpanzer
10-15-2007, 10:55 AM
... and some more.

jens

Gutkowski
10-15-2007, 05:09 PM
... and some more.

jens

Looks nice !! Thats the exact one I would like to buy but I dont think the collapsing stock's are legal in our state, what did it run you ? I can get a bushmaster with a M5 package for around $800-$1000 US
I did get a pig sticker for the 97'
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/IMG_1920.jpg

Flammpanzer
10-16-2007, 01:27 AM
I did get a pig sticker for the 97'

cute little thing. so burglars, beware! :mrgreen:

well, I paid 1700,00 Euros for it (new), which is a stunning 2400,00 USD. but the market for legal gun buyers here is quite small (allthough there are a lot of illegal guns) and so the prices are horribly high compared to yours. a doug koenig S&W 1911 costs 2400 euros, I saw one in a US store for 900 dollars, so you get an idea how perverting the prices are.

the foldable stock is from LEAPERS. it looks nice indeed, but is a bit "flimsy" and is shaking a lot more than I like it. I guess, a regular but-stock (A 3?) will provide more precision while shooting.

jens

Gutkowski
10-16-2007, 07:15 PM
cute little thing. so burglars, beware! :mrgreen:

well, I paid 1700,00 Euros for it (new), which is a stunning 2400,00 USD. but the market for legal gun buyers here is quite small (allthough there are a lot of illegal guns) and so the prices are horribly high compared to yours. a doug koenig S&W 1911 costs 2400 euros, I saw one in a US store for 900 dollars, so you get an idea how perverting the prices are.

the foldable stock is from LEAPERS. it looks nice indeed, but is a bit "flimsy" and is shaking a lot more than I like it. I guess, a regular but-stock (A 3?) will provide more precision while shooting.

jens

WOW now that expensive !!!
If you are looking for parts that are expensive for you find it here State side and I will ship it out to you as long as its not a banned item LOL
The place I get the best deals is from http://www.brownells.com/ I have a dealer discount and I dont pay retail

Major Walter Schmidt
01-09-2008, 02:06 AM
I shoot the HAND-Mk.2 with xtra large rubber bands.

32Bravo
01-09-2008, 06:48 AM
I shoot the HAND-Mk.2 with xtra large rubber bands.

Find yourself a woman, Fellah. :D

Moreheaddriller
01-09-2008, 06:47 PM
Well im someone who loves hunting and someone who plans to use lethal force if someone broke in so yes i love to shoot and my guns are as listed


1.Winchester Model76 Shotgun
2.remington premier grade 1100
3.remington 870 wingmaster
4.remington Sportsman 48D
5.harrington and richardson 12 single barrel
6.Kar98k(1941)
7.Mosin 91/30
8.remington 700 Mountain Rifle
9.100 ATR mossberg 30 o6 bolt action
10.Henry 44 mag lev action
11.S and W 357
12.Colt 32 police positive

Flammpanzer
03-14-2008, 08:29 AM
hehe, a nice list.

here is what I bought yesterday:

a .22 ciener conversion-kit for 1911A1 pistols for my trophy match .45ACP. on tuesday I will try this nice thing out. since all sorts of ammo have reached a price-peak during the last years, it is a quite expensive hobby only to shoot with calibers like .45 or even 9mm luger. so the .22 kit helps to save some money in the end (after a few thousand shots, the price for the kit has equaled). for training purposes, the smaller rimfire cartridges will also fit my needs anyway.

and for all persons who brake in my house, I have still some nice .45 ACP hollow points left over that will not be too expensive to use ...

jens

Man of Stoat
03-14-2008, 09:32 AM
Flammpanzer,

NNNNNNNNNNNoooooooooooooo!!!!!!! you bought a sabre defence! For about €200 more you could have had an Oberland arms, which is much better!

The only advantage of the sabre defence is that you can have a military profile barrel,, but that really doesn't make up for the manufacturing problems they have.

Personally, I have an Oberland arms flattop HBAR with an ACE stock, free float tube, and compensator. Next week it will be getting a JP adjustable gas block and a detachable foresight block directly behind the compensator. I would put it on this week, but I have a match on Sunday and rule number one is never to change anything directly before a match!

Flammpanzer
03-14-2008, 09:58 AM
@men of stoat: thank actually for the hint, but I alredy knew that.

btw: the only difference between both is that the finish of the german built OA is a bit better, but the SAs finish is more military-like. the quality is exactly the same. well, the carry handle OA uses is from armalite while SA fits a cheaper chinese part. the precision of both is abs. equal. I have the book VISIER SPECIAL Nr. 37 "M-16 und AR 15" - both rifles (in all available variants) were tested intensively and there is really no difference - except the finish as mentioned. the book dates back to 2005.

jens

Man of Stoat
03-15-2008, 06:12 AM
I actually have some insider knowledge here on Sabre. If you get a good one, it is as good as any military spec, however there are certain fabrication problems, particularly in the upper receiver, with the bolt way not necessarily being concentric or indeed cylindrical, the scope rail being out of true by a surprisingly large amount, the hole in the lower receiver through which the trigger protrudes being cut incorrectly (lots of them were hand filed to fit).

Take a Sabre and an Oberland and run the bolt back and forward a few times. The difference is remarkable! One obnoxious thing that Oberland have done, however, aside from not providing light barrels, is using their own bespoke thread on the muzzle so that you have to use their own brand compensator which does not direct gas upwards. I sincerely hope that the barrel extension thread is the same as the American AR 15s when it comes to change my barrel!

You would be amazed at the number of receivers and barrels that end up being junked at the Sabre factory!

Nickdfresh
03-15-2008, 06:14 AM
...
and for all persons who brake in my house, I have still some nice .45 ACP hollow points left over that will not be too expensive to use ...

jens


Ouch!:shock:

Moreheaddriller
03-15-2008, 04:58 PM
Ouch!:shock:

a 357 can do the same job now how's that for "ouch":mrgreen:

Flammpanzer
03-16-2008, 06:37 AM
hehe, even some well placed .22 will do this job. :mrgreen: I think it is more important where you hit your oppenent than the caliber, sort of bullet and the Vo. anyway, a .357 is also a very good self defencive cartridge.

jens

Nickdfresh
03-16-2008, 08:04 AM
a 357 can do the same job now how's that for "ouch":mrgreen:

Probably not good for the drywall if you miss. :shock: And there is an overpenetration problem with such high velocity ammo, personally, I'd go with a nice, slow moving .45ACP...

Panzerknacker
03-17-2008, 06:21 PM
Nice to see so many armed people here :mrgreen:

George Eller
03-17-2008, 08:45 PM
Probably not good for the drywall if you miss. :shock: And there is an overpenetration problem with such high velocity ammo, personally, I'd go with a nice, slow moving .45ACP...
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I would have to agree with that. My dad used to quote gun experts from the 1960's (when I was a kid) that were of the same opinion and for the same reasons. The .45 was considered ideal for home defense. Bullet of low velocity but large mass gave stopping power but not overpenetration.

IIRC, wasn't the .357 designed for law enforcement with car penetration in mind.

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Flammpanzer
03-18-2008, 05:22 AM
very true, the "old, fat, slow lady" .45 is a brilliant home defence caliber for the reasons you posted.

the 9x19mm "luger" or "para" has also the tendency to overpentrate, which showed off in many police shooting incidents here.

the .357 derived from the .38 special, which was considered to be too weak to stop an attacker immediately and for sure.

jens

Rising Sun*
03-18-2008, 06:10 AM
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IIRC, wasn't the .357 designed for law enforcement with car penetration in mind.

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That's my understanding, but that it was to go through the thick car bodies of the time rather then engine blocks as is often said.

http://www.dillonprecision.com/docs/Mar_08_Classic_handguns1.pdf

Moreheaddriller
03-18-2008, 09:14 PM
well another good defence caliber in my mind is the .41 caliber which i feel dosent get the credit it deserves as a good cartridge

BriteLite
03-23-2008, 04:45 AM
Up until health issues stopped me, I used to hunt frequently. Mainly white tail deer and occassionly turkey/dove/quail.

Hunting:
Belgian Browning auto rifle, 30.06, beautiful longe range piece
Browning BPS 10 Gauge pump shotgun, deer killer 2 3/4oz slugs accurate to 60 yds., favorite deer and turkey gun
Ruger Single Six 22 cal pistol, shotshell for rodents, club had ongoing battle to keep camp rat free

Home:
Charter Arms 44 special revolver, 2" barrel, my go-to, 15' or less game over
Llama 45 auto, cheap but good shooter
Tanarmi 9mm auto, 18 shot capacity, stainless inside, wife is a dead shot with this
No name 22 revolver, wife's pea shooter

Fun:
Ruger mini-30 carbine, added folding stock/flash hider, shoots 7.62x39 Russian, even sounds like AK, evil looking
Ivers Johnson M-1 carbine, ammo is cheap and fun to shoot
Uzi carbine version 9mm, semi auto, bought for $300 from a truck driver in the 90's, he needed cash, simplest gun ever to breakdown
Winchester Model 94 30/30 lever action rifle, my Dad's rifle, dependable

Saved the best for last:
Walther PPK 32 auto(7.65mm), bought from friend in 1975 for $400, Came with original shoulder holster, his dad retrieved from dead LW officer in Italy 1944, original US Army paperwork states same, beautiful piece, no rust/pitting, blueing slightly worn at action from use

As I stated health issues stopped hunting but I even though wife thinks some could be sold I will never sell any. When I am gone she can sell em.:)

Edited for clarity, Thanks Flammpanzer

Flammpanzer
03-23-2008, 04:49 AM
wife is dead shot with

hm, for anyone who is not a native speaker (like I am), this sounds a bit scaring .... :mrgreen:

jens

tankgeezer
03-24-2008, 09:14 PM
very true, the "old, fat, slow lady" .45 is a brilliant home defence caliber for the reasons you posted.

the 9x19mm "luger" or "para" has also the tendency to overpentrate, which showed off in many police shooting incidents here.

the .357 derived from the .38 special, which was considered to be too weak to stop an attacker immediately and for sure.

jens
The .357 mag. cartridge, although it is a descendant of the .38 spl. it is loaded far hotter, and has velocity equal to the 9mm para. using a much heavier slug. The .357 case is made 1/10 and inch longer, than the spl. not for the extra powder required, but as a measure of safety to prevent their being used in a weapon chambered for the spl. The most effective slug for social working is the 158 gr. semi-wadcutter, it provides the most damage in the wound canal.

tankgeezer
03-24-2008, 09:33 PM
Alright, I know some folks have been wondering about my little pet, the Lahti Anti-Tank rifle. i have a few pics of it and me, so here they are, Pardon the jumble in the background, I'm just finishing up a move.
The rifle is a bit more than 8 ft in length,weighs in at 125 lbs loaded with a 10 rd mag. This is one of about 400 pieces still capable of firing. (yes it makes a great throaty boom) . And being a later version, fires the 20x138 cartridge.The German ammo seems to work better than the Finn 1941 stuff, and comes in greater variety. it is supposed to perf 2" of period armor, but I dont know at what range. I do know that at 300mtr, it will hole a 3" plate of mild steel and continue on its way.(tracers are wonderful things.) P.K. Lets go rabbit hunting :)

George Eller
03-25-2008, 12:26 PM
Alright, I know some folks have been wondering about my little pet, the Lahti Anti-Tank rifle. i have a few pics of it and me, so here they are, Pardon the jumble in the background, I'm just finishing up a move.
The rifle is a bit more than 8 ft in length,weighs in at 125 lbs loaded with a 10 rd mag. This is one of about 400 pieces still capable of firing. (yes it makes a great throaty boom) . And being a later version, fires the 20x138 cartridge.The German ammo seems to work better than the Finn 1941 stuff, and comes in greater variety. it is supposed to perf 2" of period armor, but I dont know at what range. I do know that at 300mtr, it will hole a 3" plate of mild steel and continue on its way.(tracers are wonderful things.) P.K. Lets go rabbit hunting :)

http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showpost.php?p=121311&postcount=60

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Awesome pics tankgeezer :)

Talk about bad to the bone.

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tankgeezer
03-25-2008, 01:44 PM
Thank you George, it is a delight to fire, but gives a mighty shove against your shoulder. The flash hider is canted to keep the side mounted sights as clear as possible, they are much like the 98 mauser sights only larger. A friend also had one of these, and the 3" plate was his target, it was propped against a granite rock the size of a comp. monitor, and behind that, was a gravel berm 10 ft high. the range was on the edge of Lake Michigan, and when he fired, the round went through the plate, broke the rock, through the berm, and arced out over the lake.
If I was the commander of a Russ BT7, during the winter war, I would not want to look through the binoculars and see that muzzle looking back......

George Eller
03-25-2008, 02:07 PM
Thank you George, it is a delight to fire, but gives a mighty shove against your shoulder. The flash hider is canted to keep the side mounted sights as clear as possible, they are much like the 98 mauser sights only larger. A friend also had one of these, and the 3" (thick mild steel) plate was his target, it was propped against a granite rock the size of a comp. monitor, and behind that, was a gravel berm 10 ft high. the range was on the edge of Lake Michigan, and when he fired, the round went through the plate, broke the rock, through the berm, and arced out over the lake.
If I was the commander of a Russ BT7, during the winter war, I would not want to look through the binoculars and see that muzzle looking back......
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:shock:

Definitely wouldn't want to see that muzzle looking back...

http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1890&stc=1&d=1206472125

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Moreheaddriller
03-25-2008, 05:13 PM
Just throwin this out here but any one know where to possibly find a mp40 or even a remake of this gun

tankgeezer
03-25-2008, 06:05 PM
Just throwin this out here but any one know where to possibly find a mp40 or even a remake of this gun
if you mean a non shooting replica, the is, or was a company that sold replicas of most famous or infamous weapons. As far as shooters go, i think you would be limited to the available Class III offerings found in shotgun news, and other such advertising periodicals. google should lead the way for you.

Panzerknacker
03-25-2008, 06:09 PM
Man, you are a fortunate shooter, I could use that for overtrow goverments that I dont like... just like the current one.

Beautiful pics Tankgeezer.:D

Moreheaddriller
03-25-2008, 07:23 PM
Thanks for the insight geez and plus nice kick *** gun

tankgeezer
03-25-2008, 07:58 PM
Man, you are a fortunate shooter, I could use that for overtrow goverments that I dont like... just like the current one.

Beautiful pics Tankgeezer.:D
Its handy for dealing with door to door sales people, and for the moment of "Oh, your here to date my daughter????"

tankgeezer
03-25-2008, 10:00 PM
Just throwin this out here but any one know where to possibly find a mp40 or even a remake of this gun
www.replicaweaponry.com they offer an MP-40 for $389.00

Rising Sun*
03-26-2008, 05:41 AM
Alright, I know some folks have been wondering about my little pet, the Lahti Anti-Tank rifle.
...

The rifle is a bit more than 8 ft in length,weighs in at 125 lbs loaded with a 10 rd mag. This is one of about 400 pieces still capable of firing. (yes it makes a great throaty boom) . And being a later version, fires the 20x138 cartridge.The German ammo seems to work better than the Finn 1941 stuff, and comes in greater variety. it is supposed to perf 2" of period armor, but I dont know at what range. I do know that at 300mtr, it will hole a 3" plate of mild steel and continue on its way.(tracers are wonderful things.) P.K. Lets go rabbit hunting :)

Do you think that might be just a little too much gun for a bunny? :D

tankgeezer
03-26-2008, 07:25 AM
Do you think that might be just a little too much gun for a bunny? :D
the trick to Bunny hunting is that they are very fast. So, the best way to get them is to aim ahead a bit, and shoot the ground out from under them. They fall in the crater, and you have a bagged bunny. :) Also, you can do it from a mile away,,,,:twisted:

Nickdfresh
03-26-2008, 07:55 AM
Its handy for dealing with door to door sales people, and for the moment of "Oh, your here to date my daughter????"

Or a panzer trying to break in to your house.

Rising Sun*
03-26-2008, 08:16 AM
the trick to Bunny hunting is that they are very fast. So, the best way to get them is to aim ahead a bit, and shoot the ground out from under them. They fall in the crater, and you have a bagged bunny. :) Also, you can do it from a mile away,,,,:twisted:

Our bunnies would be quite surprised by this.

Mostly they just create craters in the landscape, and nowhere as long as a mile away.

There may be a certain justice in using big gun thingys against them. :D

Although you could probably save a bit of ammo by just firing that bloody great thing into the ground in the general direction of their burrows, which should kill countless bunnies by concussion. Or earthquake. :D


Which, just seriously for a moment, was what happened in Vietnam when Australian tanks learnt to fire AP into entrenched VC positions and blew them out where other ammo wouldn't.

tankgeezer
03-26-2008, 01:15 PM
Or a panzer trying to break in to your house.
Pesky Panzers, they are always trying to come through the door,,, As bad as Amway salesmen.....:)

Panzerknacker
03-26-2008, 06:01 PM
and for the moment of "Oh, your here to date my daughter????"

I have no daughter but a 15 years old little sister...it could be useful in that aspect against unwanted boyfriends. :cool:

tankgeezer
03-26-2008, 09:54 PM
I have no daughter but a 15 years old little sister...it could be useful in that aspect against unwanted boyfriends. :cool:
Just give me a call,,, i can probably wing em' from here:shock:

Flammpanzer
03-27-2008, 06:14 AM
geezer, you got me wrong ;) I related tro the .38 spec as a cartridge that was judged to be too weak in terms of stopping power. the .357 mag. is a brilliant and very potent cartridge!

and regarding the desire for a MP 40 that is a able to shoot:

http://www.ssd-weapon.com/produkte/bd38/bd38.htm

this small german company also builds a FG 42, the german sten-copy from WW2 and the StgW 44. not cheap, but well built and realistic. german gun-magazines quoted those rifles as good with only small flaws (www.visier.de f. e.).

jens

tankgeezer
03-27-2008, 10:28 AM
Quote: "geezer, you got me wrong I related tro the .38 spec as a cartridge that was judged to be too weak in terms of stopping power. the .357 mag. is a brilliant and very potent cartridge!"
You are correct Sir! I realized my error only after I had posted my reply. So sorry good sir.

SuperTroll
03-31-2008, 03:08 PM
Matched pair of Sig Sauer P226's (Weapon I carried in the US Army) My Concealed Carry Weapon is the Sig Sauer P229 in .40 S&W.

Mossberg 3000 Police Model Riot Shotgun (12GA).

KelTech SU16 5.56MM Rifle.

Yes weapons are easier to obtain in the US but we still must apply for a permit to carry, and to purchase a firearm a background check is required.

Moreheaddriller
03-31-2008, 08:23 PM
Panzer dude thanks for the sight

Grot
04-08-2008, 09:24 PM
Just throwin this out here but any one know where to possibly find a mp40 or even a remake of this gun

Here is a company in the US making them:
http://www.alliedarmament.com/MP40.html
Their PPSH is nice too.

Grot
04-08-2008, 09:44 PM
I have a few that I shoot (rarely) but I am mostly a collector. Here is my favorite that I never shot and probably never will:
1943 US M1903A4
http://www.fireteamzulu.com/assets/images/db_images/db_m1903a4_Right.jpg

http://www.fireteamzulu.com/assets/images/db_images/db_Left.jpg

Here is a pic from the guy I bought it from (he takes much better pictures than me):
http://www.fireteamzulu.com/assets/images/db_images/db_sd1.jpg

Panzerknacker
04-08-2008, 09:56 PM
Hmm, is a shame that such precise weapon is not used ;)

Grot
04-08-2008, 10:27 PM
Hmm, is a shame that such precise weapon is not used ;)

I agree, but because I paid quite a bit for this rifle and and the scope is 65 years old (and rare) I don't want to take any chances damaging it. I am quite sure the scope can still handle the recoil but if it cannot I don't want to find out the hard way :(. I have other rifles from this period that cost me a lot less that I have fired but I rarely find time to go to the range so I consider myself more of a collector.

RifleMan20
04-08-2008, 10:27 PM
Shoot, am jealous, I cant get a gun till i turn 18 and my guess is that my parents still wont let me have one

Flammpanzer
06-23-2008, 10:10 AM
hi again!

czech this out! ;-)

so, here is my new and maybe last handgun - we are only allowed to own 2 here (plus 3 semi-auto rifles and nearly unlimited bolt-action rifles). normal side-by-side or over-and-under-shotguns are more simple to aquire, but pump-action versions are also limited (only 1). to get 3 or more handguns needs some efforts which I am not willing to endure at this time.

it is czech built CZ 75 B in bright polished stainless, built 2007. the caliber is 9x19mm (LUGER or PARA). I shot the gun some days ago with S&B ammunition, but it seems that some more precision can be achieved with other catridges.

the gun is stock, but has the more conveniant hogue-wrap-around-grips. the original parts seem to be a bit flimsy, but the gun has a very fine finish, much much better than you might expect it from a former "eastern block" country.

jens

imi
06-23-2008, 10:51 AM
Flammpanzer:in the first site that 45 was beautiful!!!!

imi
06-29-2008, 12:12 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8c/Walther_P22_Corrected.jpg
Walther P22
Very good ergonomic,perfect wear under clothes(small),cal 22 so not too noisy

Flammpanzer
07-05-2008, 04:28 PM
nice little gun, IMI. I like the design that is one more of a big-caliber gun.

maybe interesting to know that here in germany there exists a CS-gas-blank-version of the p-22 that is built by walther/umarex. the "real" gun and the blank-firer share a lot of components, but the gas-version cannot be converted to a live-firing device anyway.

jens

tankgeezer
07-12-2008, 08:40 PM
Although its not mine, I would like to spend the day playing with this one. Its the only extant,operable example of the T-8 cannon in private handshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvncpT4EVzQ

Flammpanzer
08-16-2008, 01:07 PM
hello everybody!

here is my newest toy, a remington 870 tactical 12 gauge. :mrgreen:

jens

Flammpanzer
08-16-2008, 01:11 PM
...and some more stuff. I like the rugged construction, anyway, the "blasted"-coating is quite prone to scratches, although it should be tuffer than a blued version.

the tube-mag holds 7 rounds plus one in the chmaber. barrel lenght is 51cm.

jens ;)

boxerrick41
08-17-2008, 08:53 AM
george,
you are the man. what a collection. i have a remington 1100 12 gauge, a british .303 that i deer hunt with and my black powder rifle, which i have hunted with once( turkey)

aerwulf6814
08-24-2008, 10:27 AM
For duty use i carry one of two trp springfield armory 1911a1's or if i don't want the seat belt latch eating my grip panels one of two xd pistols, have'nt settled on a rifle yet.CURRENTLY TRYING OUT A COPY OF THE 940 WIEGER AS MADE BY I.O. AN AK KNOCK OFF. -BD

George Eller
08-24-2008, 11:05 PM
george,
you are the man. what a collection. i have a remington 1100 12 gauge, a british .303 that i deer hunt with and my black powder rifle, which i have hunted with once( turkey)
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Thanks Rick :)

I have had this thing for the British Lee-Enfield .303 since my teenage years. In my early twenties, I worked with a couple guys that hunted deer with sporterized Lee-Enfields. They were very satisfied with the rifle's performance. I bought both of mine through ads in the Shotgun News. The No 4 Mk I from Sarco and the SMLE Mk III through a small company called British Arms Company Ltd. Both were bought back in the 1980's. I have only used them for target shooting at local outdoor ranges.

I did get a chance to fire a black powder Hawkin percussion rifle while I was in the boy scouts back in the early 1970's. It was at summer camp in east Texas at a place called Camp Strake. One of my brothers and I were the first persons in the history of the camp to ever hit a bullseye on the black powder range. Each of the scouts was only given one shot ...

The Remington is a good shotgun. What I like about the Ithaca is that as long as you hold the trigger back (without letting off) the gun will fire as fast as you can pump the slide. With rapid fire, it sounds almost like a Bofors anti-aircraft gun.

http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showpost.php?p=109149&postcount=11

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Panzerknacker
08-25-2008, 07:27 PM
here is my newest toy, a remington 870 tactical 12 gauge


Not quite the germans favorite kind of gun...nice toy you got :mrgreen:

Flammpanzer
08-29-2008, 02:07 PM
hehe, you thought a Kar98 or StGw 44 would fit better, did you? :mrgreen:

shotguns are quite popular among sport-shooters here, but our hunters disregard the pump-guns as some sort of gangster-guns. hunting has a very strong traditional aspect over here .... but I have to admit that a side-by-side or over-and-under shotgun has greater precision compared to a normal pump action. I have shot all of them on an indoor-range at moving targets.

anyway, a pump-action is MUCH COOLER!

jens

Panzerknacker
08-29-2008, 09:22 PM
but our hunters disregard the pump-guns as some sort of gangster-guns


That was my point.



hunting has a very strong traditional aspect over here ..


I know that.



anyway, a pump-action is MUCH COOLER!


The pump action here is prefered for self defense in rural areas and for "wilde sau" hunting with slug ( we called the shotgun slugs breneke, you know why)

aerwulf6814
09-03-2008, 07:50 PM
two days ago I sold my trp"s to my employers for bill purposes but got my springfield defender back frm family to replace them for duty use. my next quandry is zeroing 4 aks. they dont zero the way a brit,us ,german does. they fire 5 shots then average the center zone for size.
any nam vet who defied the westmoreland reg could you please advise?

Cuts
09-05-2008, 09:45 AM
Just throwin this out here but any one know where to possibly find a mp40 or even a remake of this gun

Not exactly the same model but close enough, try here (http://www.ssd-weapon.com/produkte/bd38/bd38.htm) - or here (http://www.ssd-weapon.com/engl_web/produkte_en/bd38_en/bd38_en.htm) for the English page.






Edited to remove an extraneous link.

Panzerknacker
01-02-2009, 03:37 PM
Some pictures of my IGA over and under 12 gauge with 76mm chamber and the Norinco JW 15 22 magnum.

http://i42.tinypic.com/9kxbn4.jpg


http://i44.tinypic.com/9hks37.jpg

Flammpanzer
03-07-2009, 10:40 AM
Okay, just a little update: My newest toy - a Ruger 10/22 Target Rifle, chambered in .22l.r.

Jens :mrgreen:

Flammpanzer
03-07-2009, 10:43 AM
.. and some more.

Cheers!

Jens

Panzerknacker
03-08-2009, 07:36 AM
Beautiful, is that a supressor or a heavy barrel ? :)

Flammpanzer
03-17-2009, 03:02 AM
Hehe, supressor. :D We can`t even dream of this over here. Yep, it is indeed the so-called "hammer forged bull barrel".

BTW: Due to the whole anti-gun-discussion I will make a pause in buying new guns - nobody knows what will come up, allthough many politicians see that the gun laws are strict enough. But if some guys don`t take care of them ....

Anyway - just some days before the terrible shooting, I aquired a ROMAK-3/PSL (or better known as the civil-version, Cugir SSG 97) in .308 Win. It is romanian some-sort-of-sniper-rifle that looks similar to a Dragunov, but has a different interior, more common to the AKM. In addition, there is cool PSO-scope on this little beast (8x42).

Pics will follow.

Regards

Jens

Jens

Panzerknacker
03-17-2009, 08:48 PM
Hehe, supressor. :D We can`t even dream of this over here. Yep, it is indeed the so-called "hammer forged bull barrel".



Okay; I ve asked because sometime ago I saw In showcase a made in Germany Mauser .22lr rifle, and it had a threaded muzzle for supressor, so I assumed that supressors were legal in Germany . I know in the neighbour France are legal even they are required in some parts of the country.

Man of Stoat
03-18-2009, 05:31 AM
The collection of Mr and Mrs Stoat:

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/8203/dsc0095h.jpg

Top to bottom:

P53 Enfield, .577, civilian cutdown presumably for defence in the colonies against lions, tigers, bears and no-no's.
SIG-Sauer P226 9x19mm. A fairly old one.
Oberland arms OA-15, .223 Remington with its "space gun" clothes on. Plenty of JP parts in it.
CZ/ADCO 22 rimfire upper, modified. This is the old one with the lower than standard rail.
1886 Kropatschek 8x60R
Smith and Wesson 625,45 ACP. Well polished internally, otherwise only lightly modified.
Australian International Arms M10-A1, 7.62 x 39 mm. Takes an AK-47 magazine.
L1 A1 SLR, Enfield 1959, 7.62 x 51 NATO, DSA rear sight. Sadly got rid of it yesterday.
Hege-Uberti replica Colt 1873, .45 Colt, 5.5 inch.
Remington 700 police, .223 Remington,Meopta 4-16 x 50, Timney trigger.

Panzerknacker
03-18-2009, 09:47 AM
Nice collection, lucky you that you are a british not living in Britain. :mrgreen:

Dixie Devil
03-19-2009, 08:09 AM
Remington 700 LSS 7mm RUM Left hand w/ Nikon 3.5x10x50mm Scope. Harris bipod Long range deer hunting/Target Shooting

Remington 7400 carbine 30-06 w/Nikon 3x9x40mm scope Intermediate range deer hunting

Marlin 1895 Guide Gun .45-70 Short range deer hunting

New England Firearms .45-70 Handi Rifle w/ Nikon 3x9x50mm scope Primitive weapon deer hunting

Springfield Armory 1911A1 .45 ACP Personal protection/Target shooting

Sig Sauer Mosquito .22 LR plinking/Anti-snake gun:D

Remington 11-87 12 gauge Deer, Dove, and Turkey hunting

Remington 870 20 gauge youth model Home defense

Remington 597 .22LR w/Redfield 4x scope plinking/Squirrel hunting


Those are the ones that I use most often and I shoot them as much as possible. I have a pretty long list of guns I am saving up to buy too.

Nickdfresh
03-19-2009, 09:32 AM
Just a Ruger Mini-14 5.56mm --mostly for plinking...

I might apply for my pistol permit though -which is actually fairly tedious to get in New York State. However, I think that is a good thing...

Panzerknacker
03-21-2009, 10:11 PM
Remington 700 LSS 7mm RUM Left hand w/ Nikon 3.5x10x50mm Scope. Harris bipod Long range deer hunting/Target Shooting

Remington 7400 carbine 30-06 w/Nikon 3x9x40mm scope Intermediate range deer hunting

Marlin 1895 Guide Gun .45-70 Short range deer hunting

New England Firearms .45-70 Handi Rifle w/ Nikon 3x9x50mm scope Primitive weapon deer hunting

Springfield Armory 1911A1 .45 ACP Personal protection/Target shooting

Sig Sauer Mosquito .22 LR plinking/Anti-snake gun:D

Remington 11-87 12 gauge Deer, Dove, and Turkey hunting

Remington 870 20 gauge youth model Home defense

Remington 597 .22LR w/Redfield 4x scope plinking/Squirrel hunting


Those are the ones that I use most often and I shoot them as much as possible. I have a pretty long list of guns I am saving up to buy


Nice collection Dixie, but I do prefer a scattergun for snakes.

Dixie Devil
03-23-2009, 07:31 AM
I have an Ithaca 37 Featherlite 12 gauge with a short 18" barrel that works a lot better on snakes but it is much easier to carry the Sig so I usually just leave the Ithaca at the house.

Rising Sun*
03-23-2009, 08:30 AM
I have an Ithaca 37 Featherlite 12 gauge with a short 18" barrel that works a lot better on snakes but it is much easier to carry the Sig so I usually just leave the Ithaca at the house.

I've probably posted this before, but at my age I can't remember what breakfast is for; when it is; where to have it; or if I've had it ;) :D , but for snakes and general use in a country where these two calibres would kill anything I encountered the best gun I ever had was a Savage over and under .22 Magnum / .410.

Thumb on the hammer and finger on the slide selector for the barrel and I had it all available as I raised it to my shoulder.

Never needed a 12G for anything, and never had anyone with me with a 12G who shot anything I couldn't with a .410.

Possibly because I shot things with the .22 Magnum that they were shooting, or trying to shoot, with a 12G.

Panzerknacker
03-23-2009, 08:53 AM
I have an Ithaca 37 Featherlite 12 gauge with a short 18" barrel that works a lot better on snakes but it is much easier to carry the Sig so I usually just leave the Ithaca at the house.


Obviously it is, but snakes put me really nervous, so I cant him them with a handgun.:)

Around here there are some special short over and under 32 gauge shotguns, very handy with snakes, with and without legs.

http://www.armeriaeldorado.com.ar/fotos/rexio4(1).jpg

Dixie Devil
03-23-2009, 11:16 AM
Obviously it is, but snakes put me really nervous, so I cant him them with a handgun.:)

Around here there are some special short over and under 32 gauge shotguns, very handy with snakes, with and without legs.

http://www.armeriaeldorado.com.ar/fotos/rexio4(1).jpg

Never seen one of those before. I am saving up at the moment to buy a Taurus Judge and it should be the ultimate snake gun. A five shot 410/.45 Long Colt is the perfect combination in my book. :)

Panzerknacker
03-23-2009, 05:30 PM
Yea, I ve seen the gun, interesting concept the one of use the grooves to scatter the shot.



Never seen one of those before


The Rexio shotgun is sell in the U.S in .410 gauge/45 combination. Not yere, cuz the .410 is considerer too small.

Hedgecat
03-23-2009, 05:37 PM
I don't own any guns, but the only ones I shot were the M16 A2 and the M9. I was close to reaching Expert on the M16, but missed by 3 shots. >< Darn gas mask...

Flammpanzer
04-09-2009, 01:34 PM
And my newest one: ROMAK-3 or Cugir SSG 97 (or FPK in military use) - a romanian built, Dragunov-style designated marksman rifle. The system is more like that of the AKM, not like the one in the Dragunov. It is chambered in .308 Win.

The plastic-made magazine is quite fllimsy (one even broke away under my first shots) and during my first range-visit, I also lost my flashhider which went down the range for more than 55 meters. Anyway, it is a beauty. :mrgreen:

Jens

Flammpanzer
04-09-2009, 01:36 PM
... and some more. Why are the pics are not shown properly in my post? Did I do something dumb? :confused:

After the whole Winnenden-discussion here, this will be my last gun for some time, I first have to see what is coming up on all legal gun-ownders over here.

Jens

Panzerknacker
04-09-2009, 06:59 PM
Superb weapon as usual Flammpanzer.


I first have to see what is coming up on all legal gun-ownders over here.

Nothing harmful I hope.

Yosh1aki
04-13-2009, 05:50 AM
Wow, everyone seems to have really impressive collections of firearms. I am deeply envious of you all.

I only have two rifles, which I use for target shooting.

Lee Enfield Rifle No4 in .303 calibre
This is one of the pieces made for the Commonwealth during WW2 in the USA by Savage Arms. The rifle is stamped 'US Property'.

AFAIK, Australian forces did not use the No4 (preferring to stick with the SMLE Mk3) and this particular rifle was issued to NZ forces and then somehow made it's way to Autralia later on. It is still in original condition, full wood, matching serial numbers, etc.

Omark Model 44 in .308 calibre
This is a single-shot Australian designed and made heavy barrelled target rifle - probably not very well known outside Australia. Actually, Omarks probably aren't very well known even inside Australia. I will try to find and post a picture of an Omark.

Cheers
Pete

Splinter54
04-28-2009, 08:56 AM
Hello Ladies and Gentlemen.


Wow ... i have to say that some of you got a real armory at home! :D

Let me show you mine [a collection of some pictures taken in a period of ~5 months] - please ask me if you want to use the pictures.

My rifle - No. 44605 G36A1

Shot during a maneuvre in the beautiful bavarian forrests [end 08]
The silver cap is the MPG for the maneuvre ammonition.
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs38/i/2008/350/1/2/G36A1___Vol__I_by_Splinter54.jpg

A bit frosty in the morning and a bit wet in the evening.
Here you can see the clip-together technique for our magazines. A very fine idea HK had there, but it leads to some '30-mag constructions', if you understand what i mean ...
http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs39/i/2008/350/e/a/G36A1___Vol__IX_by_Splinter54.jpg

I name that picture 'A bavarian armory' :P [the green tube is the second-barrel container for the MG3]
http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs39/i/2008/350/9/b/G36A1___Vol__X_by_Splinter54.jpg

And that's how you should not treat weapons - well at least not our barbie-guns [also called designer rifles - i like the G3 better but the G36 has many positive aspects]
http://fc09.deviantart.com/fs39/i/2008/350/2/e/G36A1___Vol__XI_by_Splinter54.jpg

Holy mother that was a crazy weapon to use - the MP7A1 with standard Zeiss reflex optics.
http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs44/i/2009/081/6/9/MP7___Vol__II_by_Splinter54.jpg


Most recent pictures from a practice.

Some AK's of East German Peoples Army pre-1985 production [see shoulder stock], a P38/P1 beside a Coke and a G36A1 [a 'captured' one in that scenario, that'S why it's beside some of my groups weapons]. [all life weapons.]
http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs45/i/2009/093/3/2/CovOps___Vol__II_by_Splinter54.jpg

That is he most ugly thing i have ever held in my hands - MAT Modele 1949 / MAT-49
http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs43/i/2009/093/2/b/CovOps___Vol__III_by_Splinter54.jpg

Hope you like the pictures. :rolleyes:

Sincerly

Splinter54

Nickdfresh
04-28-2009, 09:23 AM
Splinter,

Does the Bundeswehr still use the AK-74 for anything?

Splinter54
04-28-2009, 11:41 AM
Splinter,

Does the Bundeswehr still use the AK-74 for anything?

Hello Nickdfresh.

Until 1991 some units of the former NVA [peoples army of the GDR/DDR] used that rifle before they were equipped with our G3 rifles in various variants.

Nowadays we use different variants of that weapon [most of them are out of old NVA armorys] for deployment trainings like we FJg's train extensively with the EAKKs program [all BW units do, but we train that together with our CRC programs].
I don't know out of wich armorys some of the weapons come [hell, we even had a life PPSh41] but i think everything which can be found in ex-east german armorys is now used to simulate the weapons which are used e.g. in AStan, Africa etc.

We even use some uniforms for the OpFor or CoForces which are all totally different [some got arabic things written on them, some kyrilic writing and many are also out of NVA warehouses - i once weared a Wachregiment Friedrich Engels Uniform :P] and some typical 'natives' clothes for the deployment countries.


To your question in general: I counted around four different variants of AK-74 rifles [i was only looking for different shoulder stocks, so there could have been more different variants] we used in that deployment scenario.

There were also some very uncommon weapons i never saw before, like two very strange weapons, which looked like an AK in the back, but had the typical M16 frontal sigths ... i got some pictures of those.


That's all for giving our guys the best education and training possible.
I may not say here what we do exactly in our programs, but be sure that our programs are far superior to other nations deployment trainings i have seen so far [yes you may note some patriotism, but that's because we really got very good programs].

Hope that solved your question ;)

Sincerly

Splinter54

Cuts
04-29-2009, 05:49 AM
Hello Ladies and Gentlemen.


Wow ... i have to say that some of you got a real armory at home! :D

Here you can see the clip-together technique for our magazines. A very fine idea HK had there, but it leads to some '30-mag constructions', if you understand what i mean ...
http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs39/i/2008/350/e/a/G36A1___Vol__IX_by_Splinter54.jpg

I know what you mean about the '30-mag constructions,' I'll have a scratch through my stuff for some photos of 'experiments' by bored troops. :D
I was never keen on the clipped mags myself, purely because it makes pouches so much bigger.
By the way, I think H&K bought the idea from SIG, that connection system was in use on the Stgw90 prior to the G36.


Most recent pictures from a practice.

Some AK's of East German Peoples Army pre-1985 production [see shoulder stock], a P38/P1 beside a Coke and a G36A1 [a 'captured' one in that scenario, that'S why it's beside some of my groups weapons]. [all life weapons.]
http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs45/i/2009/093/3/2/CovOps___Vol__II_by_Splinter54.jpg

Splinter54

Are you positive that's a P1 there Splinter ?
It looks surprisingy like a CZ75 or clone thereof.

Splinter54
04-29-2009, 11:28 AM
Hello Cuts.



Are you positive that's a P1 there Splinter ?
It looks surprisingy like a CZ75 or clone thereof.

When i looked at that weapon, it seemed to be a P38/P1, but you are right, from that angle it looks like that weapon you named [from what i can see via google] - but like said, there were some very strange weapons, so it could have been a somewhat modification or small series gun. [to my shame i have to say, that i only met that weapon during my bootcamp long time ago and now i only get the P8 handed out]

I attached a picture which shows nicely one of those weapons i could not name - it's that M16-Kalash Mashup.

Perhaps someone could define the weapon, if it's not a mix of different rifles.

Thank you.

Sincerly

Splinter54

Cuts
04-30-2009, 07:33 PM
Hello Cuts.



When i looked at that weapon, it seemed to be a P38/P1, but you are right, from that angle it looks like that weapon you named [from what i can see via google] - but like said, there were some very strange weapons, so it could have been a somewhat modification or small series gun. [to my shame i have to say, that i only met that weapon during my bootcamp long time ago and now i only get the P8 handed out]

I attached a picture which shows nicely one of those weapons i could not name - it's that M16-Kalash Mashup.

Perhaps someone could define the weapon, if it's not a mix of different rifles.

Thank you.

Sincerly

Splinter54

Hi Splinter,

The photograph is very dark, (or perhaps it's just my screen or eyes,) but as far as I can make out it looks like a version of the DDR/Romanian Stg940 family which are now produced in America as part of the Stg 2000 series.
If you can describe the wpn in more detail, eg what was the shape of the butt and did it have an optics rail, or post other pictures perhaps I can narrow it down a bit further.

Gutkowski
06-11-2009, 09:35 PM
Not too sure if I have posted these or not , this was my last purchase a few years back ,
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/IMG_1969.jpg
And vid of one of my buddys He is currently deployed and shooting my M38
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/shooting/th_MVI_2081.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/shooting/?action=view&current=MVI_2081.flv)
And also my M1 Garand
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/shooting/th_MVI_2080.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/shooting/?action=view&current=MVI_2080.flv)

Flammpanzer
07-07-2009, 07:42 AM
A nice picture of two great rifles in a moody atmosphere, Gutkowski!

And here are some other „guns“. Many outside Germany might consider them as “toys”, as they are only blank-firing (and gas-cartridge-firing) guns, which can be bought from the age of 18 and older. Anyway, they are dangerous and even deadly in some cases when fired at very close distances (under 1m).

Those little noise-makers are often used on new year`s eve to make some "Krach". They can also fire differet sorts of gas-catrges likeCS, CN and pepper for self-defence-purposes. You can even fire small rockets with an attachable firing-device.

Some look quite similar to their real-steel opponents, like the nice Colt .38. following later.

Jens

Flammpanzer
07-07-2009, 07:48 AM
... and more ... the calibers vary from 6mm up to .45, but no real live cartridges can be loaded. This would be dangerous anyway, because most of the Schreckschusswaffen are made from weak metals like zink die cast. There are only a few built from steel, like the ERMA (!) EGR66X.

Jens

Flammpanzer
07-07-2009, 07:54 AM
... and even more. I really like the cute NAA-style mini revolver, chambered in 6mm and .22. :mrgreen:

Jens

Flammpanzer
07-07-2009, 08:04 AM
ERMA EGP 55 in 8mm. The vanished manufacturer ERMA (Erfurther Maschinenfabrik, based at Dachau after WW2) is/was more famous for it`s MP 40, I guess. :mrgreen:

Jens

Schuultz
07-07-2009, 11:06 PM
Nice guns all of you guys have. The military ones are obviously really tough to top.

I these are my three guns at the moment:

1943 Savage Lee Enfield No4 Mk1*
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq271/Schuultz/th_100_1350.jpg (http://s455.photobucket.com/albums/qq271/Schuultz/?action=view&current=100_1350.jpg)

30-06 Remington
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq271/Schuultz/th_100_1352.jpg (http://s455.photobucket.com/albums/qq271/Schuultz/?action=view&current=100_1352.jpg)

1946 Soviet Russian SKS
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq271/Schuultz/th_100_1195.jpg (http://s455.photobucket.com/albums/qq271/Schuultz/?action=view&current=100_1195.jpg)

I've actually been thinking about getting an MP40 Repro for a while now - but there's two things stopping me from it: The costs (CAN$2,000)and the fact that I wouldn't be able to keep it when I move back to Germany...

Flammpanzer
07-14-2009, 05:24 AM
.... and my latest: a .22 conversion unit (called "Kadet") for my CZ 75 made by CZ - very accurate (even more than the "original" gun in 9mm luger).

jens

Schuultz
07-14-2009, 09:05 AM
Why would you want a .22 conversion? Price issues?



PS: BTW, you should have the later quote from the movie, too ^^:

"Wo sind denn die Pferde?" "Wir sind die Pferde!"

Flammpanzer
07-16-2009, 03:33 PM
Regarding the .22 conv.-unit: Yep, that`s it, Schuultz. :mrgreen: And the problem here is that you normally can buy only two handguns, so the .22-units-are quite popular here to waste some cheap .22 rounds and to hava a greater variety of shooting-possibilities. Anyway, I like it very much and it is a - as said before - pretty precise device. I only can recommend it to all CZ-75-owners.


JensPS: BTW, you should have the later quote from the movie, too ^^:

xD .. yeah, the other cool quote from that movie....

"Wo sind denn die Pferde?" "Wir sind die Pferde!"

The german soldier from WW2 - artillery-gun and horse in one. A wonder they lost the war .... -.-

Flammpanzer
12-21-2009, 12:45 PM
.. just to bring some live to this topic:

my 2 new CO2-powered airguns. even if they are no "real" guns, it makes a lot of fun to shoot with them ar home.

walther CP-88 4,5mm

baikal makarov MP654K 4,5mm BB

the russian makarov is made mainly from real gun parts.


jens

Schuultz
12-21-2009, 03:23 PM
Oh, I completely forgot about this thread.

I guess I could just as well show my latest procurement: An M1A (Civilian M14), upgraded with a UTG-Tri Rail.

Scope is still WIP ;)

http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq271/Schuultz/th_100_1424.jpg (http://s455.photobucket.com/albums/qq271/Schuultz/?action=view&current=100_1424.jpg)

Panzerknacker
06-03-2010, 03:41 PM
Nice rifle too bad I cant enlarge the pic.

Okay ,here My Bersa Thunder 9mm, argentinische 15 shot pistol.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4756/51026154.jpg

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7008/80316387.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8937/mirasjpg.jpg

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/2698/videoyfotos017.jpg

Schuultz
06-03-2010, 05:47 PM
Very nice handgun, Panzerknacker. Looks a little bit like a mix between an 1911 and a Sig P220.

Might as well add an updated picture of my rifle, with new paintjob, magazine and finally a scope as well. I took it just last Sunday when I sighted in the scope.
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq271/Schuultz/Shooting%20stuff/th_100_1456.jpg (http://s455.photobucket.com/albums/qq271/Schuultz/Shooting%20stuff/?action=view&current=100_1456.jpg)

You should be able to see the picture in big simply by clicking on the link.
Alternatively:
http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq271/Schuultz/Shooting%20stuff/100_1456.jpg?t=1275605314

Panzerknacker
06-04-2010, 03:35 PM
See it well now, Beautiful rifle ! :)

The Bersa TH 9mm is derivated from the Walther P88 with some improvements, like moving the manual safety from the slide to teh upper frame and the extended "beavertail" below the hammer. Gnererally Bersa is prettyt much unknown in Europe but has a very good sales in South America and USA, specially the lesser 380 acp models.

Panzerknacker
06-08-2010, 09:34 PM
Rubi Extra this is an oldie, a 16 gauge shotgun, still very useful for my duck hunting escapades.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8089/73900871.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1554/51664460.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2948/72043119.jpg

Schuultz
06-09-2010, 06:49 PM
Not a big fan of breech-loaders but a nice gun nonetheless. Looks fairly old, do you know the manufacturing date?

Panzerknacker
06-10-2010, 08:28 AM
No really sure, must be 1965-70, its manufacturer has been out of bussines for 25 years.

Rising Sun*
06-10-2010, 08:50 AM
Not a big fan of breech-loaders

You should have tried the Savage over and under .22 magnum / .410 shotgun I had for many years. A great field gun for small game.

Panzerknacker
06-10-2010, 04:07 PM
Breech loaders arent bad, there are nothing such elegant as a side by side or over and under shotgun. Generally they are more expensive than self loading weapons though.

http://i42.tinypic.com/9kxbn4.jpg

Za Rodinu
02-02-2011, 12:14 PM
Really enjoyed seeing all your guys guns,You have some nice stuff!
Here are a few of my favorite rifle's I own
Yugoslavian Partisans WWII Soviet M91/30 sniper rifle 1944 - Yugoslavs removed the scope setups after the war unfortunately
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm331/marksman1942/image.jpg

This is a Soviet Red Army 1943 sniper's rifle
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm331/marksman1942/image1.jpg
Found 5 tally marks on the barrel band,eery feeling to know these might represent people :(
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm331/marksman1942/tally.jpg

Soviet infantryman's m91/30 made in 1931 - looks to have been in some serious combat
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm331/marksman1942/image2.jpg

Also got a German k98 mauser coming in soon

best regards

skorzeny57
02-02-2011, 03:01 PM
Hi guys,
i didn't know this thread existed, until few minutes ago, when i've seen the last message posted by Za Rodinu... I'm a shooting instructor at National (Italian) Fire Range and i'm the proud owner of a lot of rifles, not only from WWII. Whoever may be interested to see my WWII weapons, can visit my site where i edit an album with my WWII rifles pictures. Here i have some of my modern weapons.5201 Here's a COLT AR-15 mod. SP1, built by COLT'S FIREARMS (Hartford, Conn.) in 1969, at the height of Vietnam War. This is infact the first model manifactured in .223 caliber. Unlike the following models, it isn't fitted with forward assist and case deflect and its barrel twist is 1:12".
In the lower picture : (below) COLT AR-15 A2 built by COLT'S FIREARMS in 1986, with 1:7" barrel twist. (upper) COLT AR-15 Sporter Competition A3 Heavy Barrel with 1:9" barrel twist and fitted with Khales scope.
In the center picture, my AK-74 with folding iron stock. I replaced the original wooden parts (pistol grip and handguard) with these black rail, where you can fit front pistol grip, red dot sight, flashlight, laser sight, etc.
In the right picture, my Marlin caliber 45/70.
Other rifles on next post...

Schuultz
02-02-2011, 08:44 PM
Hi guys,
i didn't know this thread existed, until few minutes ago, when i've seen the last message posted by Za Rodinu... I'm a shooting instructor at National (Italian) Fire Range and i'm the proud owner of a lot of rifles, not only from WWII.

Ah, more recently I've grown rather fond of the look of the Vietnam-era M16-style rifles. Not everything has to be tacti-cool :D
That's a very nice collection you have there skorzeny57. How strict are the Italian gun laws? German laws are kind of a bitch, and I'm pretty sure the big B doesn't make it easy for you guys, either, huh? Are these converted semi-autos or are they still selective fire?

Iron Yeoman
02-03-2011, 02:46 AM
Ah, more recently I've grown rather fond of the look of the Vietnam-era M16-style rifles. Not everything has to be tacti-cool :D
That's a very nice collection you have there skorzeny57. How strict are the Italian gun laws? German laws are kind of a bitch, and I'm pretty sure the big B doesn't make it easy for you guys, either, huh? Are these converted semi-autos or are they still selective fire?

You think German laws are bad, try the UK!

skorzeny57
02-03-2011, 10:52 AM
Hi Schuultz,
I'm glad you like my modern weapons... If you want to give a look at my WWII private arsenal, you may enter in my Forum profile, where you'll find a pics album of my rifles... I also have an STG 44, a couple of Garand (M-1 and M-1D with scope) a KAR-98, a US Carbine M-1, a Mosin-Nagant and a SVT-40 Tokarev.
Hanged on the wall, at our firing range, we have a notice : WEAPONS ONLY HAVE TWO ENEMIES : RUST AND POLITICIANS. This just to give an idea about the law related to weapons here in Italy... I think the situation, here in Europe, its the same in all the countries. And the big B isn't different from the other, past or future, politicians... Of course the FULL AUTOMATIC FIRE isn't allowed, like the 30 rounds magazine. Before getting in tue civil market every automatic weapon has to be modified. The three M-16, the AK74, the STG44, the M-1 Carbine and the SVT-40, has only SAFE position and FIRE (single shot). In addition, every weapon with folding stock, has a forged welding on the stock pivot pin, so it's impossible to fold it (see my AK-74).
Cheers Schuultz and don't miss the next post! ;)

Wehrmacht39
02-03-2011, 01:05 PM
Here are a few of my guns...

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skorzeny57
02-03-2011, 04:11 PM
Hi Wehrmacht39,
you own some very nice weapons. The Nagant revolver has the mark (star with "T" in the center) of the Tula Arms Plant, like my Mosin-Nagant. The Luger has a nice looking, too. It seems in very good conditions.
Cheers.

Schuultz
02-03-2011, 07:55 PM
Ah, I've long wanted a K98. Problem is most of them are usually poor condition Soviet captures, and 7,92 ammo is freaking expensive in Canada ($35 for 20). How expensive is it in Italy/Europe, does anyone know?

skorzeny57
02-04-2011, 12:27 PM
Hi Schuultz,
in order to increase precision and save money (expecially if you enjoy shooting...), we reload our ammo. The reloading process is some kind of pleasant and interesting, as well as easy. The only things it takes are manual character and good sense. You can choose the bullet weight, related to the distance and to the barrel twist of your rifle. You can try the suitable kind of powder and its quantity. And you can try numberless different kinds of primers, as well as cases, too. Me and my son (we share the passion for the weapons) reload all the ammo for our rifles: 6,5x55 for the Swedish Carl Gustav// .223 for the Ar-15// 30.06 for the Garand M-1// .30 for the M-1 Carbine// .308 for the Sako 75// 7,62x54R for the Mosin-Nagant// 8x57 JS for the K98 and of course the 8mm Kurz for the STG44, whose ammo are quite hard to find...
Anyway, since my son works in a big gunshop, i can tell you something about the price of the ammo for the K98. A medium quality box of 20 rounds caliber 8x57 JS costs about between 15,00 and 20,00 Euro, here in Italy. I don't know about the change in Canadian dollars, but it seems very expensive the price you told me...
Take care.

skorzeny57
02-05-2011, 10:09 AM
Hi guys,
here's my 12 gauge tactical shotgun. Is a Franchi SPAS 15 with double action (semi-auto and pump), with six rounds mag and folding stock. In the picture i've partially fold it, in order to keep it stand... The green cartridges (in the magazine at left) are rubber buckshots, non-lethal ammo, good for unwelcomed guests... :(
I'll see you at the next post...

skorzeny57
02-20-2011, 08:47 AM
Here's my bolt action sniper rifle Sako 75, caliber 7,62x51 (.308 Winchester) with Night Force scope.

Schuultz
02-20-2011, 10:44 AM
Holy crap Skorzeny - your arsenal is impressive - how many guns total do you possess?

skorzeny57
02-20-2011, 11:07 AM
Hi Schuultz,
the weapons that we possess (i use "we" 'cause i include the weapons of my son) are about twentyfive rifle (bolt-action, semi-auto & shotguns) and six handguns (three revolvers and three semi- auto). The oldest is an Austrian Steyer (caliber 8x56) of the ww1 and the latest is a M4 carbine made by Carl Walther (Germany) under licence of Colt's MFG. co. llc. Hartford (Conn), in caliber 22. I will post a pic of it. It's really going fun, shooting with it... :cool:
Take care.

skorzeny57
02-27-2011, 07:34 AM
This is a five shots grouping, from two hundreds yards, with my Sako mod. 75 in caliber .308 W (7,62 NATO) -see three posts above-. In order to test reloaded ammo, isn't important to hit the center of the target (wasn't a competition where the score is basic), but you have to get a shot grouping as small as you can.

skorzeny57
04-16-2011, 12:34 PM
Here's the new entry of my WWII weapons collection. It's a COLT M1911 A1 .45 ACP builded in 1943 by COLT'S MFG. CO. - Hartford CT. USA. The barrel has been replaced, for obvious reasons and the body has been re-blued.

jamestallakson
04-30-2011, 07:04 PM
i shoot the m-16a2, an m4, glock 40, and a bolt action 243

MJ1
05-01-2011, 10:42 AM
UK is tough but I have shot at Bisley a few times and my pals there have some nice gear. And the bar opens at 8 AM,,LOL.

I shoot all of these.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/95327c96.jpg

Wehrmacht39
05-07-2011, 01:38 AM
Just picked this up for $300.00 :D The guy sold it cheap cause he thought it was broke, but it turned out he just had it put together wrong :lol:

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flamethrowerguy
05-07-2011, 01:44 AM
Pura Vida

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/0978145c.jpg

...MJ...

I'm not much of a weapon expert so excuse my ignorance.
What's that thing below the G43?
Looks like a G3-MP5-StG44 hybrid to me...

skorzeny57
05-07-2011, 06:44 AM
I'm not much of a weapon expert so excuse my ignorance.
What's that thing below the G43?
Looks like a G3-MP5-StG44 hybrid to me...

It should be one of the first models of G3. Here i'm showing two different versions of a 1966 H&K G3, caliber 308. The buttstock, the pistol grip and the rear and front sight and the muzzle-break are the same. Only handguard and magazine look different. The one at left is fitted with scope and front bipod. The one at right has a wooden handguard.

skorzeny57
05-07-2011, 06:49 AM
Just picked this up for $300.00 :D The guy sold it cheap cause he thought it was broke, but it turned out he just had it put together wrong :lol:

What a bargain, Wehrmacht39!!! :) May you ask to that guy if he has some other broken weapons and, of course, if he needs to get rid of 'em? ;) :lol:

Wehrmacht39
05-07-2011, 10:24 AM
I'm not much of a weapon expert so excuse my ignorance.
What's that thing below the G43?
Looks like a G3-MP5-StG44 hybrid to me...

It looks to me like an HK-93 In 5.56x45mm NATO. The magazine is way to small for the 7.62x51mm NATO (308)

skorzeny57
05-07-2011, 11:45 AM
It looks to me like an HK-93 In 5.56x45mm NATO. The magazine is way to small for the 7.62x51mm NATO (308)

You're right, Wehrmacht39. The only doubt i had, it was related to the caliber. Infact the magazine is smaller than the 1966 HK G3. In this picture there are the HK93A2 (upper) and the HK93A3 with collapsible stock.

flamethrowerguy
05-07-2011, 11:46 PM
At least I sensed it was made by Heckler & Koch...;)

tankgeezer
07-01-2011, 05:57 PM
A visit to the range, my son and I go whenever I am in town, nothing serious, .22 target pistols, I'm shooting a S&W 22S W/ an aimpoint type designator. Distance is 75 feet./25mtr

tankgeezer
10-19-2012, 01:25 PM
This one is new, I haven't had opportunity to break it in yet. A Savage 110BA in .338 Lapua Mag. W/ a 10-40x56 scope. It will make an excellent 1,000 meter rifle. (assuming I will ever make a 1,000 meter shooter) ;)

tankgeezer
10-20-2012, 08:14 PM
Well, my plans are not so grand as that just yet, just getting used to this rifle, and one other which i will eventually use for 1,000 mtr, the .338 will in time and when I find a range large enough, be used for 1 mile shooting. I have just zeroed the Model 12 Savage, and will break in, and zero the 110BA this week. Pic is the 100 meter zero target for the Mod. 12 .308 Win.

MJ1
10-22-2012, 12:39 PM
HK 93


I should have labeled it.

..MJ..

tankgeezer
10-24-2012, 10:53 PM
I had seen this unusual rifle a few times, very intriguing 22" triangular barrel design with an integral muzzle brake. This is supposed to aid in cooling, and reduce weight. Its from Remington, a model 700 VTR (Varmint-Tactical Rifle) I decided to buy one just to see if it was any good. I got it in .223 Rem. and put on a 10-40x scope. Although I'm no super shooter, the rifle performed well for me, and printed a nice 100 yd group after break in, using regular commercial ammunition with 55 gr. FMJ bullets. So far, its very enjoyable to use. And won't bruise your shoulder.

forager
10-27-2012, 12:13 AM
Original C 96 Mauser in 9mm Parabellum.
Branded with a "nine" filled in red to distinguish from more common 7.63mm.
Many original 7.63s have been ruined in recent years by folks firing 7.62x25 Tokerev in them.
That ammo is much too hot for these old guns, it batters them to pieces in short order.
I have a lot of stuff of this vintage and fire them less than I used to.
Value is way up and breaking a small numbered part is very detracting to that.

1917 "Artillery Luger I have owned 40 years. Fun to shoot with stock, but getting too valuable to risk.

I have a few mismatched pieces I fire more often.

tankgeezer
10-27-2012, 01:16 AM
Gotta love the broomhandle, always a favorite, like it better than the Bergman Bayard.

MJ1
10-28-2012, 09:08 AM
C96 +1 Very nice.

forager
10-28-2012, 07:35 PM
Brooms tend to be unwieldy without stock, but attatching it really tames them.
Scnellfeurers are nuts-what were they thinking?
In the 60s they were illegal with stock, and I got caught in 1966 with a complete mint matching rig from a vet.
I was 19 and going into the army. They let me "abandon" it to avoid legal issues.

tankgeezer
10-28-2012, 10:39 PM
The ATF had no sense of humor about the shoulder stock, their determination at the time was that attached or not, or even if missing the metal part that attached it to the pistol, it still constituted a short barreled rifle. Thankfully, the stock was added to the exceptions list, and allowed without a form 4.

tankgeezer
12-01-2012, 04:13 PM
I took the Savage 110 BA in .338 Lapua to the range, was a nice day, its just a smaller range, target lines at 15, 50, and 100 yards, good for zeroing, and getting used to a weapon. Video here. http://youtu.be/qfbJ2eMo_BA
The pics are left: is at 50 yd from boresight, the right is from 100 yards. Using Sellier & Bellot factory ammo for now, will load my own once I accumulate enough brass.

MJ1
12-10-2012, 10:32 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/IMG_0987za_zps73099278.jpg

I was reading a post the other day from a Savage 110 .338 owner who said it costs him $5 a shot. That is a lot of rifle. I'm getting by at $.75 a shot using 168g SMK's.

..MJ..

Re-Cycle
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/DSCF91762_zps18f922ef.jpg

tankgeezer
12-10-2012, 05:45 PM
Factory ammo for the .338LM can be very expensive, even Remington gets $125. for a 20rd box. The average is closer to $90. The S&B I use is about $50 per 20rds. I don't fire the BA that often, perhaps more once I begin to load it for myself.

Cuts
02-09-2013, 06:07 PM
Some of us get it issued.

:lol:

tankgeezer
02-09-2013, 07:59 PM
Some of us get it issued.

:lol:

Save me some :)

Wittmann
08-24-2013, 10:28 PM
I normally shoot the M1 or M1 Carbines along with the FN FAL. I have a couple of K98Ks along with a few 91/30s, but I love the rear sights on the 03a3 and Enfield NO 4better than the other bolt guns.

Just picked up Brown Bess Second Land Pattern Pedersoli, still working the specifics on the firearm. Shoot cap and ball pistols also.

Honestly though, I shoot the .22's most often, Ruger Mark 3, Single Six and Henry.

Nickdfresh
08-25-2013, 11:01 AM
Is the ammo for the M-1 Carbine expensive or difficult to get?

tankgeezer
08-25-2013, 01:25 PM
Is the ammo for the M-1 Carbine expensive or difficult to get?

.30 Carbine ammo should be available through most any online seller, and is made by a large number of MFG's. Prices commonly range between $23-$27 per 50 rds.

Wittmann
08-29-2013, 09:08 PM
I agree with Tankgeezeer.

I can find it my area locally, but its sort of hit or miss. I normally compare ammo prices at http://ammoseek.com/ . I also research the ammo on the internet, I bought a batch of AMERC ammo at CTD and the cases split after firing, I thought both of my carbines were both messed up until I read the reviews and the ammo and it was a common complaint. I have since switched to Aguila .30 carbine ammunition and it did fine in both carbines. CMP is one source that sells the Aguila ammo for the carbine, there are other brands that good also.

tankgeezer
08-12-2016, 08:22 AM
I've had this Rifle sitting around for awhile, and just lately had an opportunity finally to fire it. (public Ranges do not usually allow something like this, so had to wait till I could use a private range) It's a Bull-Pup design,single shot Bolter, so looks quite short, but does a very good job at tweaking my shoulder anyway. It chambers the .50 BMG (12.7x99 for our metric brethren) Anyway, a bit of video for you.

https://youtu.be/HPe8B43hjtU

leccy
08-12-2016, 04:09 PM
Its been a long time since I have seen any single shot weapon that loads like that - in fact the last time was our issued Ramset Bolt Guns, what a pain in the butt they were.

Looks an interesting weapon though, way out of my experience at firing a 0.5" as we only had a few L135A1 Barretts anti materiel rifles in the Sappers and I never got to play with one.

tankgeezer
08-12-2016, 05:27 PM
The design is referred to as a "shellholder" you clip the cartridge into the bolt and insert, and lock the bolt. Being a Bullpup, this one incorporates the Shoulder pad with the bolt. It has a movie history too, one of the models was used in the movie Tremors by the Character Burt Gummer to shoot giant worms. The Barrett would have been more pleasurable to fire I think, even though the two weigh about the same, the L.A.R. Big boar I have kicks harder than some.
I believe that L.A.R. had a thought to selling these to the Government, or at least someone's Government for field use, but I have to say it would be a bit clumsy in use having the shellholder arrangement.
I do recommend giving a 50 Rifle a try if you get the chance, they are fun, and make things far away fly to pieces. And ammunition is well cheaper than for the .338 Lapua Mag.

leccy
08-13-2016, 07:46 AM
At a military museum they had some single shot clandestine weapons that loaded like that. Ok to be hidden away but a real pain if you need more than one shot.

tankgeezer
08-13-2016, 08:00 AM
Yep, the Welrod's, and Sleeve guns, things of that nature were a very interesting family of firearms. But as you say, just hope you don't need two shots..

Gutkowski
10-07-2016, 08:40 PM
Unforgettably I sold most of what I have posted through the 10+ years of being a member of these forums lol I still have my 1911 and a new .357