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Ostwind01
04-24-2006, 09:18 AM
I can speak english,german and hungarian.:wink:
Hungarian is a very hard language. :?
And I am hungarian. :D
Hungarian panzers (harckocsik in hungarian :D ):
38M Toldi I-III
Technical datas of the "Toldi":
8-10t,20 and 40mm gun
http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/bibl/mil/ww2/kepek/tanks/toldi.html
http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin/user_upload/h/hu-toldi1.jpg
Turán I-III
18,2t and 19,2t, 40 and 75mm gun (Turán II-III)
http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/bibl/mil/ww2/kepek/tanks/turan.html
http://hhope.uw.hu/41mturan.jpg
Nimród
10,5t, 40mm Bofors gun
http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/bibl/mil/ww2/kepek/tanks/rlg/nimrod.html
http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/bibl/mil/ww2/kepek/tanks/rlg/pics/nimrod6.jpg
Zrínyi I-II
21,6t, 10,5 cm gun
http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/bibl/mil/ww2/kepek/tanks/rlg/zrinyi.html
http://www.bibl.u-szeged.hu/bibl/mil/ww2/kepek/tanks/rlg/pics/zrinyi6.jpg[/b]
Tas (prototipe)
38t,75mm gun
http://gamma21.freeweb.hu/mtas.html
http://gamma21.freeweb.hu/
http://www.freeweb.hu/gamma21/tas1.jpg
http://www.freeweb.hu/gamma21/tas2.jpg
link:http://gamma21.freeweb.hu/mtas.html (click the english index (Union Jack)) [/url]
Panzerknacker
04-24-2006, 12:33 PM
I always like the double purpose Bofors armed Nimrod, the germans had something like that in the Ostwind, but too late in the war and too few of them.
http://www.azymut.waw.pl/ciekawostki/zagan/ostwind.jpg
Ostwind01
04-25-2006, 07:43 AM
The prototype based on the Swedish constuction, marked L-62 produced in 1939. Usig parts of the Toldi light tank, but the chassis had 5 pairs of smaller wheels, because of this, the chassis became 0,5 m longer. The undercarriage's springs weren't strong enough, many failure happened.
The main gun of the big and opened turret was the 40 mm 36M Bofors anti-aircraft gun.
Built: 89
http://www.freeweb.hu/gamma21/nimrod.JPG
http://www.freeweb.hu/gamma21/Nimrod1.jpg
http://gamma21.freeweb.hu/
Gen. Sandworm
04-25-2006, 08:00 AM
Wow great pics Ostwind! :D
Ostwind01
04-25-2006, 10:31 AM
Really?
Some great pics of Turan I-II-III:
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/hungary/turan/turan.htm
Zrínyi I-II ( I think the Zrínyi was the best hungarian panzer in the WWII)
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/hungary/zrinyi/Zrinyi.htm
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/hun/Hun-Zrinyi-Kubinka.jpg
http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin/user_upload/h/hu-zrinyi1.jpg
More informatian about hungarian panzers:
www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=4244
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/hun/Hungary.html
Panzerknacker
08-15-2007, 09:29 PM
Another image of the "Tas" heavy tank projekt, the Panther influence is obvious.
http://www.haditechnika.hu/Archivum/199301/P11/09.jpg
Byron
03-12-2008, 11:24 PM
I agree--great pics!
For a small country, the Hungarians produced some solid AFV. The Toldi I & II and the Turan I & II were both pretty standard for their time, but the war quickly outgrew them (the Turan II being a "main" battle tank into 1943!).
The Turan III had the makings of a solid AFV. It was a little better than the PzKw IVh, although not much.
The Zrinyi I never saw combat; only a prototype was finished. It was armed with a long barrelled 75mm antitank gun which "...had some problems which it was not possible to solve." Production was focused on the Zrinyi II which mounted a 105 L/20 howitzer instead and was a formidable AFV. Between 40 and 66 were produced.
I find it interesting that the Nimrod was considered a tank hunter--a task for which it was not well suited. However, it was one of the most successful Hungarian AFV of the war.
I highly recommend, to anyone interested in Hungarian AFV, "The Royal Hungarian Army Vol. I and II" (Niehorster and Mujzer, respectively). Two excellent books on the Hungarian armed forces of WWII. :)
snebold
04-06-2008, 07:18 AM
Thank´s for the great pics.
Can anybody tell me if a Tas (and the tank destroyer) was built? I do not read hungarian and really want to know...
Byron
04-07-2008, 03:04 PM
No, the Tas was not built in either form. The Turan III was in the prototype stage when the war ended. A few of them were built but I don't believe they were used in combat.
Django
11-09-2008, 04:46 AM
Really?
Some great pics of Turan I-II-III:
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/hungary/turan/turan.htm
Zrínyi I-II ( I think the Zrínyi was the best hungarian panzer in the WWII)
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/hungary/zrinyi/Zrinyi.htm
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/hun/Hun-Zrinyi-Kubinka.jpg
http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin/user_upload/h/hu-zrinyi1.jpg
More informatian about hungarian panzers:
www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=4244
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/hun/Hungary.html
I agree with your opinion on the Zrinyi, it would interesting to read some info on its battle record.
As it was stated, Hungary and to a lesser extent Rumania produced some interesting AFV despite many constraints.
Its always interesting to me to see pics and read about the lesser known AFV's in WW 2......GREAT THREAD!
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