M1 Garand

[RifleMan20]

In World War 2 the M1 was a very succesful weapon and a the common rifle for the Americans.Do you viewers think we would of won the war with out the M1?

[GermanSoldier]

I believe so because of the other weapons we have. Thank about Russia, Britian, Australia, and many other countrys won the war without the M1. But if they did not have the M1 the only rifle would be a Springfield. Still I say the war still could have been won without the M1.

[RifleMan20]

Thank you for your reply.:)

[GermanSoldier]

Here is a different type of M1 in WW2. I just found it.

[RifleMan20]

Great,thanks for the pics

[GermanSoldier]

You are welcome. Because I know this was one of you'r favorite guns.

[GermanSoldier]

But if they did not have the M1 the only rifle would be a Springfield. My bad there would still be a M1A1 Carbine.

[Laconia]

In World War 2 the M1 was a very succesful weapon and a the common rifle for the Americans.Do you viewers think we would of won the war with out the M1?

Maybe. The M-1 was a fine weapon, it had a high rate of fire and worked well in most conditions. This weapon gave the average G.I. an edge when fighting against an enemy using bolt action rifles. I think in the end though what won the war for the Allies was the great amount of planes, artillery, and ingenuity that we had. Remember as for small arms, the Germans had the most fully auto weapons. Many machine guns and assault rifles.

[GermanSoldier]

It was a good gun but I will stay with my statement and also agree with Laconia.

[Laconia]

About 20 years ago I had an M-1. What a good shooter! Not much for recoil because of the gas system. The only drawback was the 8 rd clip. The Italians took the M-1, added a magazine in the bottom and called it the BM-59. (if I remember right) Back in the early 80's I almost bought one. I should have.

[Panzerknacker]

The general Patton said something very flattering about this rifle :rolleyes:

[GermanSoldier]

The general Patton said something very flattering about this rifle :rolleyes:

Never knew that.

[Laconia]

That is cool that you had a M1

At that time I had quite the gun collection. A bunch of the WW2 small arms. I had the M-1, the .30 carbine, 1903 A-3 Springfield, .303 Lee Enfield, K-98 Mauser, and the .45 Colt auto Pistol. Had a house fire and they all burnt up!

[PLT.SGT.BAKER]

Sorry for your loss, I would know if that happened to me.

[PLT.SGT.BAKER]

The general Patton said something very flattering about this rifle :rolleyes:

Wasn't it something like "The greatest battle implement ever created"?

[Laconia]

Yep, it did. Never could bring myself to build up the collection again. I would like to get another Garand though. This time I'll get an even better one. That 03-A3 Springfield was real sweet. I looked forever for that one. Finally found it in a small gun shop in Vermont - I bought it on the spot. The .303 Enfield was like new! I think it got made towards the end of the war and it was put in storage. It was packed in cosmoline when I got it.

[GermanSoldier]

Dude that is sweet you have a .303 Enfield. Those things are hardcore.

[RifleMan20]

Sorry about you collection Laconia,it seemed you enjoy WW2 weapons.

[Panzerknacker]

Wasn't it something like "The greatest battle implement ever created"?

Yes that was the phrase. he was very impressed by this gun.


Garand argentine Variant.( 7,65mm)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8981/garand3wz8.jpg


http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/103/garand2ta9.jpg


http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7406/garand4ok9.jpg


http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/379/garandfr5.jpg

[GermanSoldier]

I noticed it said 1953. Does that mean it was made in 1953 because if so it would not be a world war2 weapon.

[RifleMan20]

Man Panzerknaker those pics are awesome.

[Panzerknacker]

Man Panzerknaker those pics are awesome.



Thanks.


I noticed it said 1953. Does that mean it was made in 1953 because if so it would not be a world war2 weapon.

You are correct.

[GermanSoldier]

Why when I send pictures it has attached pictures. How do you get to look like your pictures Panzersnacker.

[RifleMan20]

Well yeah,but its still a good model

[RifleMan20]

I have got some info on the M1 Garand:

Weight-9lbs.8oz
Length-43.5in.
Calibur-.30
Cartridge-8 rounds

General Patton's weapon of choice,but has a defect,when ammo is out the cartridge flies out making a high "ping" noise that alerts enimies were out of ammo.

[Panzerknacker]

Why when I send pictures it has attached pictures. How do you get to look like your pictures Panzersnacker


You have to upload it in a external server and then insert the link in the · insert image" button in your post toolbar.


Well yeah,but its still a good model


Yes, very rare. This is the original.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4836/garandtw5.jpg

[Panzerknacker]

General Patton's weapon of choice,but has a defect,when ammo is out the cartridge flies out making a high "ping" noise that alerts enimies were out of ammo.


That problem is overrated, just imagine a guy trowing some empty clips in the air...the enemy show their heads over the trench to see what happen...but the Garand armed soldier open fire...nasty isnt?? :roll:

[RifleMan20]

Oh yeah,I remember that stratagy,its pretty useful.

[RifleMan20]

Cool nice pics

[GermanSoldier]

http://i5.tinypic.com/2up4is5.jpg

[Laconia]

Laconia are you gonna start a another collection of guns.

No way. Don't have the cash, I got too many other expenses. Besides,after losing the collection I don't have the heart for it anymore.

[GermanSoldier]

I see. Ya it must be hard to recover from that.

[GermanSoldier]

Here is a soldier with a M1 Garand
http://i15.tinypic.com/2cdibf6.jpg

[Gutkowski]

I dont think the USA would had have a problem with winning the war with out the M1 Garand ,Germans spread themselves too thin on all the fronts that they were fighting .As for the M1 I would never sell mine ,I have gotten rid of just about all my rifle collection (enfields , Mosins, SVT 40 ,Etc .
Here are a few of my July 1944 issue Springfield M1 ,
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/My%20WWII%20Collection/m1.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/My%20WWII%20Collection/m17.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/gutkowski/My%20WWII%20Collection/m18.jpg

[mike M.]

Here are a couple pics of one of my garands. This one is a Winchester.
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6461/m1garand1006bx9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4169/m1garand1004dv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/3411/m1garand1010hj9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Panzerknacker]

Very nice pics, it seems in a very mint state. :cool:

[RifleMan20]

my my,those are great pics,great condition,you sir are a great provider

[GermanSoldier]

I have been thanking about this. Maybe the M1 Garand had more of an effect in the Pacific Campaign then the European Campaign. Just a thought. Still the war would have been won without it on both campaigns.

[Panzerknacker]

Garand used by USMC sniper team.


http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/234/garanoz1.jpg

[RifleMan20]

Here are some pics I found.The first one is just a M1,the second one is John Garand handing over a garand to the army officials,and the third one is show the M1 in more describle way.

[George Eller]

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http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8600/5enfield15jo.jpg

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http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2161/6enfield86uo.jpg
(photos taken: 12 / 10 / 2005)
Two photos of my Lee-Enfield rifles. Top is a SMLE No. 1 Mk. III* made at a BSA (Birmingham Small Arms, Co.) controlled company near Birmingham in Shirley, England in 1940, with 1907 bayonet (17 in blade). Bottom is No 4 Mk I* made at the Long Branch Arsenal near Toronto, Canada in 1942, with spike bayonet.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4216/8sksm132rh.jpg
(photo taken: 12 / 10 / 2005)
Top is my Yugoslavian made SKS Model 59/66 rifle with Russian steel cased 7.62 x 39 mm ammo. Bottom is my brother's M-1 Garand rifle with eight round clip of .30-06 ammo.

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[RifleMan20]

Wow where do get the money to buy those guns,and I think you spended around $1000-$3000,but great models that the viewers and I can examine.

[George Eller]

Wow where do get the money to buy those guns,and I think you spended around $1000-$3000,but great models that the viewers and I can examine.
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Hi Rifleman,

Actually, I didn't pay quite that amount. The Lee-Enfields were bought back in the early 1980's. The SMLE No 1 Mk III was about $150 and the No 4 Mk I* was about $125 back then. I bought the SKS in 2005 for about $150. And my brother bought the M1 Garand at a local gun show 10 or 15 years ago for about $550 IIRC. So it wasn't that bad for me. :)

But, you are probably right as far as the cost for a similar collection in today's money.

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[Panzerknacker]

Lovely pics, quite acollection George, the last year began in my body a itch for the SKS but then I want a .44 ball & cap revolver also I want a .22 semiauto pistol for training,... sadly no money for all that. I going to pic just one.:neutral:

[George Eller]

Lovely pics, quite acollection George, the last year began in my body a itch for the SKS but then I want a .44 ball & cap revolver also I want a .22 semiauto pistol for training,... sadly no money for all that. I going to pic just one.:neutral:
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Thanks Panzerknacker,

Well the nice thing about the SKS is that they are more affordable compared to say an AK-47 or AR-15 military style semi-auto available on the civilian market. On a limited budget, I think that I would start out with the .22 semiauto pistol. The ammunition is very cheap, which is great if you're planning a lot of target practice. Just buy each one as you can afford. That's how I collected mine. Before you know it you'll have a fine collection built up. :)

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[Panzerknacker]

Yea, I have already a .22 rifle, is just that I want a handgun of this calibre. But unfortunately I fall in love of a Spiller & Burr .36 replica made by Fratelli Pietta. I think I going to squeeze my spare 500 dollars in that direction. :D

[George Eller]

Yea, I have already a .22 rifle, is just that I want a handgun of this calibre. But unfortunately I fall in love of a Spiller & Burr .36 replica made by Fratelli Pietta. I think I going to squeeze my spare 500 dollars in that direction. :D
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In that case, heck yea, go for it :D

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[Nickdfresh]

About 20 years ago I had an M-1. What a good shooter! Not much for recoil because of the gas system. The only drawback was the 8 rd clip. The Italians took the M-1, added a magazine in the bottom and called it the BM-59. (if I remember right) Back in the early 80's I almost bought one. I should have.

The US military did the same, only they refined it more and recalibrated it to 7.62X51mm NATO. That is of course the M-14 rifle, which is still in service today in small numbers as a intermediate range sniper arm.
http://www.veteranscava.org/Me%20-%20M14%20sniper%20rifle.JPG

[Laconia]

The US military did the same, only they refined it more and recalibrated it to 7.62X51mm NATO. That is of course the M-14 rifle, which is still in service today in small numbers as a intermediate range sniper arm.
http://www.veteranscava.org/Me%20-%20M14%20sniper%20rifle.JPG

Yep. The M-14 is a fine rifle. It definitely felt better in the hands than the BM-59. Never fired either, but I have held them.

[Laconia]

Lovely pics, quite acollection George, the last year began in my body a itch for the SKS but then I want a .44 ball & cap revolver also I want a .22 semiauto pistol for training,... sadly no money for all that. I going to pic just one.:neutral:

Isn't that the pits, not enough money for the things a person really needs. I see you are from Argentina. Do you have strict gun laws there?

[Panzerknacker]

Do you have strict gun laws there


Yea they are complicated, the amount of paperwork excedes the imaginable. The black podwer weapons however are regulations free.


And by the way, I had see a lot of footage of the sniper variant of the M-14 in the CNN, it seems a very used rifle.

[RifleMan20]

the m-14 looks like a awesome weapon,its preaty crazy to see all the changes the m1 went through

[Panzerknacker]

The M-1 and M-14 seems to be a very widespread weapon in Irak, at list from the U.S.M.C snipers side.

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If somebody is patiente enough ( and also if had some spare hard disk space) can download this large official U.S army video about marksmanship with the M1, the video is great but large.

http://www.archive.org/download/Rifle_Marksmanship_with_M1_Rifle_Part_1/Rifle_Marksmanship_with_M1_Rifle_part_2.avi


http://ia311519.us.archive.org/0/items/Rifle_Marksmanship_with_M1_Rifle_Part_1/Rifle_Marksmanship_with_M1_Rifle_part_1.gif

[Man of Stoat]

The M14 muzzle flips like buggery, and is mechanically insanely complicated. the bedding arrangement is also... questionable.

Better suited to a range than a battlefield IMHO.

The arguments presented for not adopting the AR 10 and FAL were essentially " not invented by Springfield armoury" dressed up in more politically expedient terms.

[GermanSoldier]

The M-1 and M-14 seems to be a very widespread weapon in Irak, at list from the U.S.M.C snipers side.

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If somebody is patiente enough ( and also if had some spare hard disk space) can download this large official U.S army video about marksmanship with the M1, the video is great but large.

http://www.archive.org/download/Rifle_Marksmanship_with_M1_Rifle_Part_1/Rifle_Marksmanship_with_M1_Rifle_part_2.avi


http://ia311519.us.archive.org/0/items/Rifle_Marksmanship_with_M1_Rifle_Part_1/Rifle_Marksmanship_with_M1_Rifle_part_1.gif

I would be delighted to help you. Just give me a few hours and I will have it ready. Lets say about sometime during Friday in the afternoon if it sounds good to you.

[Panzerknacker]

Is a big fat download GS, better check this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRCOr212E9g

[GermanSoldier]

Is a big fat download GS, better check this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRCOr212E9g

I am sorry but I do not know how to download it. If you tell me I would.

[Panzerknacker]

Is not donwloadable just to see online.

[Panzerknacker]

Springfield and Garand, video of the serie "The tales of the gun" from HC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6XSs5K-Wgw

[RifleMan20]

great video man i never knew that the springfield was the only rifle used in the invasion of gadalcanal and that garand was canadian