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Panzerknacker
02-28-2006, 08:37 PM
More to come.

Panzerknacker
03-01-2006, 09:04 PM
P-51 vs Me-163.

http://www.sigx.net/russr/ww2-footage/GCMe163Maybe.avi

Panzerknacker
03-02-2006, 08:22 PM
P-51 caught a Junkers Ju-52 at low altitude.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7538007423314749523&q=fighter

Panzerknacker
03-12-2006, 11:14 AM
Consolidated B-24 blasted by the Flak over Germany.

http://www.zippyvideos.com/9742548884108646/b24alcanzado/

SS Tiger
03-12-2006, 11:38 AM
Interesting videos, thanks for posting!

HG
03-12-2006, 12:46 PM
That one with the B-24 that got hit over Germany are great, just too bad it was so short. :( It is strange that it broke up that way, maybe it was very powerfull Flack.

Henk

Panzerknacker
03-12-2006, 01:09 PM
Excellent color guncams of P-47 attacking Bf-109 and others targets.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=75277905547951258



It is strange that it broke up that way, maybe it was very powerfull Flack.

Probably the 88 hit the main beam, it caused a inmediate structural failure.

HG
03-12-2006, 01:15 PM
Yes, it also looks like the flak hit part ofthe feul tank.

Henk

Panzerknacker
03-14-2006, 10:21 PM
Color P-51 guncam, atrafing german aerodrome.

http://www.zippyvideos.com/7715596384307216/attack_p-51/

David Layne
03-18-2006, 08:28 AM
That one with the B-24 that got hit over Germany are great, just too bad it was so short. :( It is strange that it broke up that way, maybe it was very powerfull Flack.

HenkThat aircraft was struck by a bomb dropped from an aircraft flying above it.

Panzerknacker
03-18-2006, 09:40 AM
No...it was hit from below, download the video from here and tell were is the bomb.....in no place because was hit by Flak.

http://www.sigx.net/russr/ww2-footage/B24flakhit.mpeg

HG
03-18-2006, 12:08 PM
Pnazerknacker I looked at it again and it does look like a explosion from above. It has happend many time in the war and it may be true in this suttuation. I do not know whitch one is true.

Just look at it again Panzerknacker and you would see what I mean.

Henk

Firefly
03-18-2006, 01:37 PM
I have looked at it again as well and it does look like something hits it from above when you pause it?

HG
03-18-2006, 02:50 PM
Yes, that is how I also tried to see if it were hit by a bomb or from flak. If you look at the bottom of the film you will see the B-24 that got hit are dropping it's own bombs.

Henk

Panzerknacker
03-19-2006, 11:46 AM
Honestly , I have no idea what video are you looking...because in the B-24 is clearly visible the shell hit near the leading edge in the 0,8 seconds of the clip.

By the way....did you see any bomb.? :roll:

Panzerknacker
03-29-2006, 07:00 PM
No news from David Layne....why I am not surprized...? :?

back to videos, P-51 engaging Junkers Ju-88.

http://www.zippyvideos.com/2680436834573326/ju-88_alcanzado/

Rustymusket
06-04-2006, 11:20 PM
I'm gonna' throw in my 2 cents about the b-24.

it was hit probably hit from below. If you look closely you can see the some of the wing structure... on the top. If the explosion occured above the wing wouldn't that have been wiped out? This isn't very good evidence but is a plus for the theory of the wing getting hit on the bottom. :?

There was no bomb that went through the top of the wing. I've seen picture of events where that did happen to a b-17. There was no explosion, just a big hole. http://www.daveswarbirds.com/b-17/nose.htm (10th picture down) And this series of photos of a b-17 getting hit by a bomb on the tail wing http://www.daveswarbirds.com/b-17/tail3.htm The bombs did not explode. There was not enough fall time for the bomb to generate enough force to trip the detonator when it hit. So if there was no explosion, how could the fuel tank catch fire?

I didn't see any flak in the vid. At all. If there was flak in the vid the plane could have been hit. But, there was none. Minus for the flak.

Maybe a bomb blew inside the plane dropping them? No. The explosion did not appear to do damage to the fuselage. Also, above the bombbay is an empty space.

what if the explosion was completely mechanical and occured inside the wings gas tank? The plane was over it's target. It had to have used fuel to get there, right? that means empty space with explosive gas fumes.
fumes=explosion; liquid gas= fire

Watching it again I did see some bombs that looked like they hit the wing. They might be the ones you guys are talking about. They where behind the b-24 that exploded, not over.

FW-190 Pilot
06-05-2006, 12:56 AM
No news from David Layne....why I am not surprized...? :?

back to videos, P-51 engaging Junkers Ju-88.

http://www.zippyvideos.com/2680436834573326/ju-88_alcanzado/
Prediction,
No contest, big win for P-51

Panzerknacker
06-07-2006, 03:57 PM
I'm gonna' throw in my 2 cents about the b-24.

it was hit probably hit from below. If you look closely you can see the some of the wing structure... on the top. If the explosion occured above the wing wouldn't that have been wiped out? This isn't very good evidence but is a plus for the theory of the wing getting hit on the bottom. :?

There was no bomb that went through the top of the wing. I've seen picture of events where that did happen to a b-17. There was no explosion, just a big hole. http://www.daveswarbirds.com/b-17/nose.htm (10th picture down) And this series of photos of a b-17 getting hit by a bomb on the tail wing http://www.daveswarbirds.com/b-17/tail3.htm The bombs did not explode. There was not enough fall time for the bomb to generate enough force to trip the detonator when it hit. So if there was no explosion, how could the fuel tank catch fire?

I didn't see any flak in the vid. At all. If there was flak in the vid the plane could have been hit. But, there was none. Minus for the flak.

Maybe a bomb blew inside the plane dropping them? No. The explosion did not appear to do damage to the fuselage. Also, above the bombbay is an empty space.

what if the explosion was completely mechanical and occured inside the wings gas tank? The plane was over it's target. It had to have used fuel to get there, right? that means empty space with explosive gas fumes.
fumes=explosion; liquid gas= fire

Watching it again I did see some bombs that looked like they hit the wing. They might be the ones you guys are talking about. They where behind the b-24 that exploded, not over.

If you play the video There is a VERY visible CIRCULAR hole in and the fuel proyected Upwards.


Enough said.

Panzerknacker
07-12-2006, 08:13 PM
This 77second clip shows Capt. Johnson chasing and shooting down a FW190


http://www.web-birds.com/8th/339/gun/339-01.mpg

Panzerknacker
01-29-2007, 08:45 PM
Gotcha ˇˇ

P-47 surprized a german zerstörer (BF-110G)

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/4607/gotchaxs0.jpg

Erich
02-05-2007, 10:17 PM
55th fg pilot F. Birtciel rippin it up,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Sboot/MissVelma.jpg

an article he sent me along with his 262 kill and locos getting popped, a couple of his 20 plus

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v672/Sboot/Film.jpg

Panzerknacker
02-20-2007, 09:08 PM
Nice images erich.


Dewoitine D-520 from JG 101 strafed .


http://www.cebudanderson.com/images/guncam01.jpg

Panzerknacker
03-08-2007, 08:03 PM
More guncams in here:

http://www.web-birds.com/8th/339/gun/gun.html

Panzerknacker
03-16-2007, 10:09 AM
Several guncams attacking air and ground targets.

http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=-3541674880997376657

shoogs
04-23-2007, 05:25 PM
i think that there is a very simular footage where you do see the bomb go through the planes wing, this is not it, but i will check up.

Panzerknacker
04-24-2007, 07:45 PM
If you talking about the earlier B-24 there is not.

Panzerknacker
09-07-2007, 07:56 PM
P-47 devastating Bf-109, FW-190 and a 37mm armed Bf-110.

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=NtJ81m65XpQ

ww2artist
09-07-2007, 08:19 PM
Awesome videos, Panzer! As an aviation artist I appreciate these very much.

Panzerknacker
09-07-2007, 08:42 PM
No worries :cool:

in here you got one in color that probably will make easier to paint it.

P-51 attacking Bf-109 "kannonboot"

http://www.sigx.net/russr/ww2-footage/P51-109.avi

Right clik and save target as...

Panzerknacker
03-21-2008, 10:02 AM
Guncam film of North American P-51D Mustang belonging to the 55th Fighter Group chasing and destroying german Mistel composite aircraft over Belgium, 3 february 1945.


http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4026/pag1xl7.jpg


http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2637/pag2yy1.jpg


http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5830/pag3tf1.jpg

Major Walter Schmidt
03-21-2008, 11:40 AM
That is the darndest thing I saw yet... Whats that white thing on the Bf109's cockpit in the 2nd photo?

windrider
03-21-2008, 11:43 AM
could be smoke inside the cockpit. Might explain why the pilot didn't want to stay there too long...

Major Walter Schmidt
03-21-2008, 02:44 PM
hmm... it looks kinda thick.

Panzerknacker
03-21-2008, 07:15 PM
Here is the frame a little bigger, the quality is too poor to say with accuracy what is...probably a thick smoke aniway.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4496/dibujobc9.jpg

Panzerknacker
03-24-2008, 07:23 PM
Now for the corkheads who still believe that the early video show a bomb hitting a B-24 wing, here is the final proof it was the FLAK.

First frame.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3047/11ho4.jpg

Moment of the hit.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3825/50153314yi8.jpg


Next frame.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3428/63612202cs0.jpg


Next frame.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6917/37144888ko3.jpg


Enough said.

Panzerknacker
03-28-2008, 10:17 AM
Messerschmitt BF-109G "kanonboot" shoot down by Republic P-47 Thunderbolt over the Ardennes, december 1944. The huge fireball at the end comes from the droptank wich the german pìlot failed to eject during combat.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/9578/18949407tw4.jpg




http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6388/60956305jr6.jpg




http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2865/88250290at0.jpg

Dark1995
04-14-2008, 08:50 PM
Wow this stuff is amazing

Panzerknacker
04-15-2008, 10:27 AM
Thanks, I ll post more soon.

Panzerknacker
04-15-2008, 07:14 PM
A very rare, difficult and high priced bird to destroy, Arado 234 recce aircraft shot down by P-51 in april 1945.

http://i31.tinypic.com/15owmrk.jpg


http://i30.tinypic.com/kbrsbp.jpg


http://i31.tinypic.com/5d5awm.jpg


http://i29.tinypic.com/30hn6gz.jpg


http://i26.tinypic.com/qyinwj.jpg


http://i29.tinypic.com/14t4ht2.jpg

namvet
04-15-2008, 10:49 PM
Allied Fighters Strafe Elite German ME-2

link (link)

Panzerknacker
04-16-2008, 06:49 PM
That is a good first post, very nice video, no flak response there.

Panzerknacker
06-15-2008, 09:38 PM
Interesting secuence showing a german pilot bailing out of his Fw-190A, the film was caught by a P-47 thunderbolt, the victor of the german fighter.

http://i27.tinypic.com/2ah5coz.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/2mhenf5.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/w5nk4.jpg

http://i25.tinypic.com/28ltoo4.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/21o5tnn.jpg

Chevan
06-17-2008, 01:48 AM
Oh really impressive thread , many thanks PZ.
You know how to wonder peoples with this matter..


Allied Fighters Strafe Elite German ME-2

Something promts me , this is not a real combat video, but probably the post-battle training of the allies poilots. There is no answering AA-fire from the ground. This is very doubtable that GErmans put their most valuable and expensive me-262 on the field without the strong AA-suppot.
Or germans troops have been finally beaten here and withdrew out of this area...

Panzerknacker
06-17-2008, 06:22 PM
Something promts me , this is not a real combat video, but probably the post-battle training of the allies poilots


I dont think so, in my opinion the Flak was caught by surprize.

Panzerknacker
06-24-2008, 07:09 PM
Thanks, here is more, Us fighter attacked a large formation of Me-110G zerstörers, one is hit and explode in flames.


http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/1127/44228019lp7.jpg


http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/5327/16334991px8.jpg


http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8316/25994059xg7.jpg

Panzerknacker
09-12-2008, 11:43 AM
Another Messerschmitt goes down, the killer, a P-51.

http://i34.tinypic.com/ncedk0.jpg


http://i36.tinypic.com/2135cbb.jpg


http://i33.tinypic.com/vcumo2.jpg

pdf27
08-24-2009, 01:35 PM
Bump.

Panzerknacker
08-26-2009, 11:24 AM
I see the light now, thanks.

Is there chance to paste this in American military again ?

Panzerknacker
08-26-2009, 06:43 PM
Okay Is done know, tante grazie.( we are all candy and peaches now)

P-47 guncam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhreZIk07pI

Deaf Smith
08-26-2009, 08:58 PM
You have got to keep in mind, 8 .50s produce over 110 rounds a second. If a enemy plane just stays in the gunsight for 1/2 a second that's over 50 rounds colliding with that plane. Does not take much to down a fighter with that kind of firepower.

Deaf

Panzerknacker
08-27-2009, 06:32 PM
True, other good point of having many single type guns is easy of harmonization and aiming given the similar bullet trajectory of every machinegun.

Panzerknacker
09-11-2009, 07:11 PM
Heinkel he-117 and He-219 strafed.

http://i26.tinypic.com/263k4r4.jpg

Deaf Smith
09-21-2009, 08:00 PM
True, other good point of having many single type guns is easy of harmonization and aiming given the similar bullet trajectory of every machinegun.


That's true to. I understand the theory used on both the A6M and Bf-109 with their 7.7 and 7.92 guns firing till they were on target and then the low velocity 20mm being fired (had to save ammo, those 20s only hand 60 rounds per gun, thus six seconds of firing time.) But that was only good for short range shooting. MG FFs, a sort of sawed off Oerlikon, were used on both the BF and the A6M.

Interesting tidbit, the P-38's Hispano 20mm had a high enough velocity (being one of the most powerful 20mms had something to do with that) and good sectional density, it kept it's flight trajectory well enough to harmonize out to 300 yards or so with the .50 cal. before the trajectories started to differ. Inside 300 yards you got the benifit of 10 20mm and 56 rounds of .50 cal. per second. I don't think any fighter back then could take even 1/2 second of fire if it was on the money.

Do you guys know where the term, "The whole nine yards" comes from?

P-47s. Or at least that's one version of how the term came about. The pilot told the report he gave the enemy fighter 'the whole nine yards', 9 yards being the length of the .50 cal. M2s belt that fit in the Tbolt. 9 yards = 360 rounds. That's raining alot of poop on someone!

Of course you would burn the barrels out of the .50s doing that right then and there but the other joe would be real unhappy!

Deaf