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Panzerknacker
01-23-2006, 07:53 AM
Videos, sounds, art, and large pics.

Something to get started, video of air operations.

http://www.zippyvideos.com/9793106223360516/1982/

SS Tiger
01-23-2006, 08:27 AM
http://www.cnn.com/resources/video.almanac/1982/falkland/exocet.30.mov Exocet weapon movie

http://www.cnn.com/resources/video.almanac/1982/#falkland
Interesting videos

Panzerknacker
01-23-2006, 03:49 PM
Good footage Tiger thanks.


Here actual audio from Argentine pilots during mission in 1982.
It's interesting material, if you understand spanish. For those who don't, I am affraid there is no transcription that I know of.

It starts with a pilot excited about seing other aircraft impacting its bombs on a british ship, then pilots exchanging damage reports (one is leaking fuel and he's assesing if he can make it back to base), then the Malvinas radar reporting 2 CAPs over the area where the attack was made plus another one farther north and a fourth CAP incoming from the carrier's location area.

The pilot describes impacts and explosions on a CL-42 by one of his mates. He also says he felt several impacts on his own aircraft. While egressing, his mates check for leaks and find a small one. The pilot then says he's going to go high to save fuel in order to reach the tanker, and that if "they" (the CAPs) get him then so be it (the Malvinas radar was reporting that 1 CAP was homming on them).

Then all the pilots refer to which ship they aimed their bombs (the one on the right or on the left?) and all report they aimed at the same one. The pilot who's plane is damaged says he almost crashed against the ship's radar dome.

Scary times. :|


http://rapidshare.de/files/5841601/Malvinas.wma.html


This mision was the A-4B mission (code name "Vulcano" and "Zeus") who sank the HMS Coventry on May 25th in open waters north of the islands and damaged the HMS Broadsword with a bomb that did not explode and went al the way through the hull.

The "Vulcano" flight was formed by Cap. Carballo, Lt. Rinke, and WO. Carmona (who had to abort due to mechanical problems). The "Zeus" flight was formed by 1Lt Velazquez, Lt Osses, and WO. Barrionuevo (who had to abort after failing during the refueling ops). "Ranquel" was the KC-130 flight, afaik. "Rayo" was the support flight (a Learjet, I guess).

SS Tiger
01-23-2006, 03:54 PM
You don't really need to understand spanish, what really matters is the sound of thier voice, you get a pretty good picture of whats going on.

cpl condor
01-23-2006, 09:33 PM
Yeah, it's true.

1000ydstare
01-24-2006, 09:00 AM
Zippyvids was quite a good show. Although most of the footage was taken in peace time, the exocet was almost definitly a sales video from the Aerospatial (or who ever makes Exocet).

Good to see it is fairly neutral in terms of which side they were on.

Panzerknacker
01-25-2006, 06:03 PM
British troops under artillery fire.

http://rapidshare.de/files/11837662/combate_terrestre.mpeg.html

Panzerknacker
02-27-2006, 09:00 AM
National Geographic documentry about the attack on HMS Coventry.
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http://www.zippyvideos.com/4281015223995526/coventry/

1000ydstare
02-27-2006, 01:30 PM
Good video find that Panzerknacker.

A few points however. National geographic don't generally put soundtracks on their videos, well not generally by that particular band or genre at any rate! :D It would have been nicer if whoever it was put the soundtrack on hadn't bothered. But hey, am assuming somebody added that for effect.

Liked the pilots phrase "take that for the motherland, gringos" as he hit the drop button.

Points to note however, given the obvious high amount of detail from both the pilots, the crew, various tech manuels (ie the arming of the bombs) and numourous clips from what is obviously press film. Why is there not a National Geographic report on the attack on Invincible? The one that has been so well covered up?

Sorry to drag it up guys but just a thought.

This film clip was taken from a national geo that included the attacks on pretty much every ship in the Falklands War which included the sinking of the Belgrano and of course Antelopes "V for Victory" but not hint of Invincible. I recommend the whole video for anyone particulary interested in the maritime side of the war.

Panzerknacker
02-27-2006, 05:22 PM
A few points however. National geographic don't generally put soundtracks on their videos

Yes that is true but is the only I can get about this particular issue.



Liked the pilots phrase "take that for the motherland, gringos" as he hit the drop button.

Silly phrase considering that Carballo is (like many others) son of inmigrants.


This film clip was taken from a national geo that included the attacks on pretty much every ship in the Falklands War which included the sinking of the Belgrano and of course Antelopes "V for Victory" but not hint of Invincible. I recommend the whole video for anyone particulary interested in the maritime side of the war.

Actually is taken from a half hour documentry of the series "Decisive seconds" or something like that.

1000ydstare
02-28-2006, 12:37 AM
"Decisive moments", Sure I saw similar stuff on another film, maybe they reused it for one or the other. What other stuff did they cover on "Decisive moments"? Any WW2 moments?

Panzerknacker
02-28-2006, 08:25 AM
Let me see, one was about the colition of two Mig-29 in England in 1993.

Other about the mid air explotion of a american 747, no WW2 related stuff as far I remember.

1000ydstare
02-28-2006, 11:00 AM
Wasn't the Pan Am 747 over lockerbie by anychance?

I think that moved the USA to bomb Libya. Did it explain why HMS Coventries sinking was particularly decisive?

Panzerknacker
02-28-2006, 05:10 PM
Teorically ther sinking of the HMS Coventry was decisive because that forced the Royal Navy to introduce new weapons systems and surface-to-air defences. In the first Gulf war for example the british Firagates was very refurbished because the fear of the sea skimming argentine stile attacks.


Wasn't the Pan Am 747 over lockerbie by anychance?

No, It was one wich exploded over the atlantic in 1994, honestly dont remenber the airline but it was from USA.

2nd of foot
02-28-2006, 05:14 PM
Wasn't the Pan Am 747 over lockerbie by anychance?

I think that moved the USA to bomb Libya. Did it explain why HMS Coventries sinking was particularly decisive?

It may have something to do with the bombs arming as a lot of the early raids did not arm due to lack of time in the air.

And I think Libya was a result of the bomb in Berlin?

2nd of foot
02-28-2006, 05:23 PM
Teorically ther sinking of the HMS Coventry was decisive because that forced the Royal Navy to introduce new weapons systems and surface-to-air defences. In the first Gulf war for example the british Firagates was very refurbished because the fear of the sea skimming argentine stile attacks.


Wasn't the Pan Am 747 over lockerbie by anychance?

No, It was one wich exploded over the atlantic in 1994, honestly dont remenber the airline but it was from USA.

That may have been the fuel problem one.

As a result of Exoset all navies revamped the air defence.

1000ydstare
03-01-2006, 01:40 AM
Possibly, 2nd of foot, I think (reaching in to deepest reaches of memory) the PAN AM was a revenge for the Libyan bombings. As the aircraft were American but took off from bases in Great Britian.

Panzerknacker
03-01-2006, 08:34 PM
Argentine officer not amused with the decisition of his superiors in the 14th June. :roll:

http://www.zippyvideos.com/3260275964056236/f...k__it_/

1000ydstare
03-02-2006, 11:25 AM
That was a rude gesture :shock: and jolly unsporting of him :o . A good loser should at least shake the hands of a gracious winner. :twisted:

Quite funny though.

However, playtimes over, pack up your toys and F**K OFF!!!! :evil:

Firefly
03-02-2006, 03:46 PM
Teorically ther sinking of the HMS Coventry was decisive because that forced the Royal Navy to introduce new weapons systems and surface-to-air defences. In the first Gulf war for example the british Firagates was very refurbished because the fear of the sea skimming argentine stile attacks.


Wasn't the Pan Am 747 over lockerbie by anychance?

No, It was one wich exploded over the atlantic in 1994, honestly dont remenber the airline but it was from USA.

The one that exploded in the Atantic was the Indian Airlines 747.

Panzerknacker
03-02-2006, 07:17 PM
Well , I was wrong, It wasnt in 1994 but 1996, here we go:


On July 17, 1996, at about 8:31 p.m eastern daylight time, Trans World Airlines, Inc. (TWA) flight 800, a Boeing 747-131, aircraft registration number N93119, crashed in the Atlantic Ocean about eight miles from East Moriches, New York. TWA flight 800 was traveling from John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK), New York, New York, to Charles DeGaulle International Airport, Paris, France. The flight departed JFK at about 8:19 p.m., with 2 pilots, 2 flight engineers, 14 flight attendants, and 212 passengers on board. All 230 people on board were killed, and the airplane was destroyed. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed for the flight, which operated on an instrument flight rules flight plan.

Witnesses saw an explosion and then debris descending to the ocean. The flightcrew did not report a problem to air traffic control before the explosion. The airplane was manufactured in November 1971. It had accumulated about 93,303 flight hours and 16,869 cycles.

The investigation into the explosion of TWA Flight 800 was the longest and most expensive accident investigation in American history. The investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) concluded that the crash occurred as the result of an explosion of the center wing fuel tank (CWT), resulting from ignition of the flammable fuel/air mixture in the tank. The source of ignition energy for the explosion could not be determined with certainty, but, of the sources evaluated by the investigation, the NTSB concluded that the most likely source was a short circuit outside of the CWT that allowed excessive voltage to enter it through electrical wiring associated with the fuel quantity indication system. The NTSB found that contributing factors to the explosion of TWA Flight 800 were the design and certification concept that fuel tank explosions could be prevented solely by precluding all ignition sources. The NTSB also pointed to the design of the Boeing 747, with heat sources located beneath the CWT with no means to reduce the heat transferred into the CWT or to render the fuel vapor in the tank nonflammable. Due to the recommendations made by the NTSB concerning possible causes of the explosion of TWA Flight 800, the FAA in February 2004 began the process of ordering airlines to install a fuel tank inerting system in most of their aircraft.

The NTSB concluded that there was no evidence of a missile or bomb detonation. The FBI agreed that there had been no criminal act after examining all the plane's wreckage that had been recovered and interviewing thousands of individuals.

Some people do not agree with the conclusions drawn by the NTSB. Partly influenced by the fact that the explosion took place two days before the opening ceremonies of the 1996 Atlanta Olympic Games, where a bomb exploded ten days later, many thought that the explosion was an act of terrorism. Many witnesses reported seeing something ascend into the sky, which some find consistent with a missile. Others have come to believe that a United States Navy vessel operating in the region was responsible for damaging the plane. Other have given theories pertaining to electromagnetic interference

Panzerknacker
03-13-2006, 06:00 PM
Argentine movie about the conflict released some 3 months ago.

http://www.iluminadosporelfuego.com/teaser.html

http://www.iluminadosporelfuego.com/backstage.html


More information....

http://www.iluminadosporelfuego.com/apertura_flash.php

1000ydstare
03-14-2006, 01:11 PM
Looks good, hope it comes out in UK also. Might be worth a watch.

Looks very saving private ryanish though :D

Who/what are the main charecters?

vaguely remember this story. That the SBS were ashore ahead of the main force, and they wrapped white mine tape around their helmets to identify themselves when they met the remainder of the force comeing ashore.

Then it turned out that the Argentines were wraping their first field dressings around their helmets. Does anyone know if this is true, and if so, why the Argies would do such a thing?

Panzerknacker
03-24-2006, 09:04 PM
Those are ALL fictional caracters 1000yds , is not based in a real history.

Back to the videos.

A little more this are in Realplayer format, if you dont have the RM player installed, well...dont be lazy a download it, is free .

http://rapidshare.de/files/16353010/Super_Etendar_Briefing.rm.html


The Mirage III/V/ IAI Nesher, all good for a museum, this film was taken in the early 90s but the aircraft were still in the same shape as 1982 in those days.

http://rapidshare.de/files/16353290/Mirage_V..rm.html


http://rapidshare.de/files/16353492/IAI_nesher..rm.html

1000ydstare
03-25-2006, 06:31 AM
characterwise i was thinking more of what they were. ie infantry, conscripts, marines....

Panzerknacker
03-26-2006, 09:53 AM
characterwise i was thinking more of what they were. ie infantry, conscripts, marines....

Well Iluminados is about the tipically portrait of a conscript, at list in the director s view. :roll:

Panzerknacker
05-17-2006, 08:09 PM
Website of the argentine artist Exequiel Martinez with a nice gallery about the war.

http://www.exequielmartinez.com.ar/malvinas_a.htm

http://www.exequielmartinez.com.ar/malvinas/crucepucar%E1s_confenix.jpg

Dani
09-10-2006, 02:16 AM
Tribute:
http://www.youtube.com/v/HN8vHPCRycI

Tribute:
http://www.youtube.com/v/ttJWxlz1HHU

Panzerknacker
09-10-2006, 02:59 PM
Very good ones, now that I see it there is several footage in Youtube...and a lot of vilonet discutions also.

cpl condor
09-28-2006, 01:47 PM
good material. very good last words....

Panzerknacker
12-01-2006, 08:05 PM
A very detailed video in english about the attack oin HMS Sheffield in 25-5-1982.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYUqC6VEuMI

Panzerknacker
04-04-2007, 06:31 PM
Discovery Channel "what if" stile documentry about the war.

http://rapidshare.com/files/24214125/Malvinas_-_La_historia_que_pudo_ser_-_Parte_1.wmv.html

50Mb, 20 Min.

Part 2:

http://rapidshare.com/files/24223414/Malvinas_-_La_historia_que_pudo_ser_-_Parte_2.wmv.html

63Mb, 25 Min.

Panzerknacker
04-04-2007, 09:26 PM
Broken links fixed, now you can download it. ;)

Panzerknacker
06-08-2007, 09:38 PM
Discovery Civilization Documentry

"The Falklands war" , 90 minutes split in 10 parts, very good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY9JYfVsjEA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9n7TQyYbuU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BLRkSkzqng


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se1yxiLpLJw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFr38idz6tg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpSkMaLMRmM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1P0cKhp8zs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UskM2D24Xo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NtxYCCcSHo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BTyUctnGe0


By the way , Chile is not that "fat" as portrayed in this clips.

Panzerknacker
06-09-2007, 03:29 PM
Errrrrr.

Last link fixed

Pánzon
09-03-2007, 01:50 PM
Hello there,

As an enthusiastic of this forum since a copuple of days ago, I would like to leave you with a fantastic footage taken from a guncam during a "pass" over a British warship on the Malvinas/Falkland conflict.

To my knowledge, it is the ONLY guncam few seconds ever available from then.... we have seen pictures from the guncams but not an actual footage so this is "quite unussual".... FAA is very jelous of this material and to my knowledge has never been released to the public.

It is quite dramatic as it shows how low they attacked and it is interesting to see how the pilot plays with the rudder in order to spread the fire. It goes first in "positive" and then in negative so you can see more detail.

This footage "belongs" to www.mirageargentina.com.ar a site dedicated to the Mirages of the FAA, it is in spanish but you will see more than 500 pics of the 6th Brigade "Welding torches" (as they are friendly called in Argentina). Santiago is the "owner" of this site and a friend.

Enjoy !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knVGQ3zl7lI

Best regards to all !

Pánzon.

Lone Ranger
09-27-2007, 03:35 AM
Probably not a rudder input you're seeing there. At those speeds the aircraft would be very sensitive to rudder. Most likely simply normal turbulence at low level that the pilot is correcting.

Pánzon
09-27-2007, 02:11 PM
Hello Lone Ranger,

You might be right, but I am still convinced the pilot was "caressing" the rudder to spread the fire. Actually, I used to do it in Falcon AF, probably the most accurate commercial simm on air combat operation in existance. And I did try it too in the HSTF at RAF Valley with "real rudder pedals".... and it worked..... and that must be one of the most accurate SIMMS in existence. ( If you do not believe this, I will send you privatelly proof of this- the HSTF matter-).

Cheers,

Juan.

Firefly
09-28-2007, 04:45 PM
Ive been to RAF Valley. It was freezing.....