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FluffyBunnyGB
11-29-2005, 02:07 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074695/

IMHO a really excellent film about WW2.

A few stereotypes going on, I'll admit (the sensitive new soldier, the old style Prussian officer, the Nazi loyalist, the hard-bitten sergeant etc etc)
but Sam Pekinpah's only WW2 film is a gem by any standards.

Great acting by James Coburn, James Mason, David Warner and Maximillian Schell, with Pekinpah's trademark bloody battle scenes (long before SPR and the like raised the bar), T 34s charging about, the interplay of all the characters and some great dialogue.

Colonel Brandt: What will we do when we have lost the war?
Captain Kiesel: Prepare for the next one

Captain Stransky: Alright. I'll do it. I'will show you how a Prussian officer fights.
Sargeant Steiner: And I will show you where the Iron Crosses grow.

Kern: Do you believe in God, Sergeant?
Sargeant Steiner: I believe God is a sadist, but probably doesn't even know it

Colonel Brandt: Why did you ask to be relieved of duty in France?
Captain Stransky: I want to get the Iron Cross.
Colonel Brandt: [reaching into his pockets] We can give you one of mine.



If you don't love this film, you're obviously a weirdo.

You could always find my FOO team in the dark by listening for the snatches of CoI dialogue bandied about.

I hope you all enjoyed the film as much as I did.

Firefly
11-29-2005, 02:25 PM
The book was written by Willi Heinrich (Sp?)

The film was good, but the book was better.

The book starts where the film ends. I think its maybe time for more films about the Ostfront and all its true nature.

Cuts
11-29-2005, 03:06 PM
Mega movie !
Well worth seeing, and Coburn's last line, (given by FB above,) is a classic flick moment.

Agree with Firefly that the book was better, but then isn't it often so ?

Put me off getting a bj from a Russian bint for ages though...
Hold on, no it didn't, it just put me off getting one while dressed as a Nazi ! :lol:

Tsolias
11-29-2005, 06:56 PM
Good story,great actors-a fine film.

Kurt Panzer Meyer
12-02-2005, 07:16 PM
Yes, I agree, a great film.

Apparently the depiction of the base resemble those of the River Mius in 1943 (cf. Tim Ripley's Waffen-SS).

Also, there is an extra 2 hours of film which have been lost. From memory, they filled with more sexual innuendo and did not make it into the public release.

General Zod
04-25-2007, 08:24 PM
One of the best movies ever I think David Warner should have gotten an Oscar for his role

flamethrowerguy
07-06-2008, 11:15 PM
Very good movie, my grandfathers -who both fought on the eastern front- said it comes close to reality...
The second part sucks big time though. Onlyy thing I did not like about Cross of Iron was this gay stuff...

B5N2KATE
07-07-2008, 10:37 AM
Ah, yes....Sam Peckinpah's look at the Third Reich from the sharp end...

Maximillion Schell was the real scene stealer...the film catches him combing his hair on at least three occasions...and referring to himself as an "heroic horses arse"...

The opening title sequence shows the POWER of celluloid and music....it would have done Joe Goebbels PROUD....and that sweet little voice singing the very well known kindergarten song "Hansien Kliene" ("Little Hans")....unforgettable...

Agree with Coburns last line as a classic, telling Schell he would lead him to where "the iron crosses grow"...Schell fires, but doesn't know how to reload....their Soviet "boy soldier" opponent is similarly handicapped, and rolls his eyes in a gesture that makes me laugh as much as Steiner was....

And that last shot, trailing off from Steiners demonic hooting to a SERIOUS set of photos showing the execution of three partisans in the Ukraine....shattering finish...I wish the other two hours of the film was available for a "directors cut"...

Classic cinema...I still find myself occasionally whistling "Hansien Kliene"....such is the power of cinematic propaganda...

flamethrowerguy
07-07-2008, 10:41 AM
Very impressive, the song and the pictures.

Hänschen klein
Ging allein
In die weite Welt hinein.
Stock und Hut
Steht ihm gut,
Ist gar wohlgemut.
Doch die Mutter weinet sehr,
Hat ja nun kein Hänschen mehr!
„Wünsch dir Glück!“
Sagt ihr Blick,
„Kehr’ nur bald zurück!“
Sieben Jahr
Trüb und klar
Hänschen in der Fremde war.
Da besinnt
Sich das Kind,
Eilt nach Haus geschwind.
Doch nun ist’s kein Hänschen mehr.
Nein, ein großer Hans ist er.
Braun gebrannt
Stirn und Hand.
Wird er wohl erkannt?
Eins, zwei, drei
Geh’n vorbei,
Wissen nicht, wer das wohl sei.
Schwester spricht:
„Welch Gesicht?“
Kennt den Bruder nicht.
Kommt daher die Mutter sein,
Schaut ihm kaum ins Aug hinein,
Ruft sie schon:
„Hans, mein Sohn!
Grüß dich Gott, mein Sohn!“

SS Ouche-Vittes
07-17-2008, 09:43 PM
I liked the action scenes. But the fact that they all spoke english ruined it for me especially Steiner who spoke fluent english throughout the film. Also the end was really weird with Steiner laughing and that russian kid with mp-40. I felt like the ending ruined the movie too! The message didn't get to me clearly cause i was confused with the ending.