Gun Collections.

[bas]

There are a number of members here who, through one way or an other have considerable experience with WWII and other firearms.

My personal experience is is through collecting. In New Zealand we have a special category of licence for collectors that allows us to own a wide range of firearms.

I've had this licence for over 10 years now and have assembled a collection that I'm very proud of, not as impressive as others I've seen, but still an achievement in it's own right.

And because I'm proud of my collection and hope others are proud of theirs, I thought I'd start a thread where we can all show off.

My collection is theme is The Great Patriotic War; infantry weapons used on both sides. I started with the Russians because being on a students budget when I began it was a unique and cheap place to start. Since then I've expanded the German side some as well, with a few bits and pieces in between.

So here we have them, these are all mine and live:
The Russians:
http://www.gunpics.net/images/russians2.JPG
2 m91/30 Mosin Nagants
2 SVT40's
Mosin m44 & m38
Mosin m91/30 PU sniper
2 m1895 Nagants
2 TT-33's
PPSh-41
PPS-43
Maxim PM1910
DP-27

The Germans:
http://www.gunpics.net/images/germans2.JPG
Kar98k
G43
P.38
P.08
Nazi Radom
Nazi Browning HP
MP.44 & MP.43
MP.40
MG.34

The rest:
http://www.gunpics.net/images/misc.JPG
2 Beretta m34 pistols one is a Finnish contract
m1 carbine
Portugese mauser
No4 Mk1
Arasaka type 38 carbine
Carcarno carbine
Chinese Type 56 semi-auto and Russian Tigr SVD clone.

I look forward to seeing others collections.

[PzKpfw VI Tiger]

That's a highly impressive collection! :D I'm in awe right now... :shock: Do you know how much that entire collection would cost if you were to sell it?? :shock: :shock:

[Hosenfield]

could you list the purchase prices? Just curious!

[bas]

Purchase price and value have no relevance to you guys because I live outside the USA, where prices for full-autos have been inflated by the ban on post 1986 registrations.

On a whole the machineguns are significantly cheaper here than in the USA while the rifles are more expensive. Also I've had some, like the MP44s and PPSh41 for quite a while now so the value will have changed.

To give you an idea, the MP43, cost me NZ$800.00 8 years ago. While a RC Kar98k now sells for that amount.

[student-scaley]

Truly amazing collection, well done. It's always good to see history preserved. Are any of them still active?

[Dani]

In New Zealand we have a special category of licence for collectors that allows us to own a wide range of firearms.


I think I'll move to New Zealand :D :D

I only dream of such of collection now.

[Charles]

Purchase price and value have no relevance to you guys because I live outside the USA, where prices for full-autos have been inflated by the ban on post 1986 registrations.

On a whole the machineguns are significantly cheaper here than in the USA while the rifles are more expensive. Also I've had some, like the MP44s and PPSh41 for quite a while now so the value will have changed.

To give you an idea, the MP43, cost me NZ$800.00 8 years ago. While a RC Kar98k now sells for that amount.

How much is a NZ$ in american $ or euros :roll: Thanks :wink:

[Cuts]

How much is a NZ$ in american $ or euros :roll: Thanks :wink:

Have you tried using Google or another search engine for the exchange rate ?

[DerMann]

That is a very nice collection. That dwarfs my collection by far.

[Charles]

How much is a NZ$ in american $ or euros :roll: Thanks :wink:

Have you tried using Google or another search engine for the exchange rate ?

:oops:

:oops:
1 NZD in NZD
American Dollar 0.6887 1.45201

[Topor]

Hey Bas, why no FN-FAL or L1A1 in the last photo?

No collection is complete without at least one :P

[bas]

Student Scaley: They are all active/live. Deacts have the same status as live guns in NZ.

Topor: one step at a time mate, I'm not made of money :(

[Cactus]

Spectacular collection you have there. I myself collect Allied uniforms mainly and other various things. I am not big into the firearms as they are for most of the stuff a bit pricey. Eventually though. :lol:

[Sturmtruppen]

Student Scaley: They are all active/live. Deacts have the same status as live guns in NZ.

Topor: one step at a time mate, I'm not made of money :(

you aren't :shock: ,your collection isn't small to be truly,great collection!,here in argentina,weapons for collectionists are cheap,specially for you!,but the problem is that it isn't easy to find places to buy them,the weapons shop mostly sell modern weapons,and the "resagos" shop has cheap old weapons of our army,but not many of ww2.

[Topor]

Student Scaley: They are all active/live. Deacts have the same status as live guns in NZ.

Topor: one step at a time mate, I'm not made of money :(

you aren't :shock: ,your collection isn't small to be truly,great collection!,here in argentina,weapons for collectionists are cheap,specially for you!,but the problem is that it isn't easy to find places to buy them,the weapons shop mostly sell modern weapons,and the "resagos" shop has cheap old weapons of our army,but not many of ww2.

Count yourself lucky Erwin; our Government doesn't trust us to own handguns, semi-automatic*, or automatic firearms :x
That's one reason why I'll be leaving this Sceptred Isle in the next few years & taking my money with me.

*Except .22rimfire.

[Sturmtruppen]

Student Scaley: They are all active/live. Deacts have the same status as live guns in NZ.

Topor: one step at a time mate, I'm not made of money :(

you aren't :shock: ,your collection isn't small to be truly,great collection!,here in argentina,weapons for collectionists are cheap,specially for you!,but the problem is that it isn't easy to find places to buy them,the weapons shop mostly sell modern weapons,and the "resagos" shop has cheap old weapons of our army,but not many of ww2.

Count yourself lucky Erwin; our Government doesn't trust us to own handguns, semi-automatic*, or automatic firearms :x
That's one reason why I'll be leaving this Sceptred Isle in the next few years & taking my money with me.

*Except .22rimfire.

mate,we have to buy a license,have a basic training for personal use of handguns,and pay the license per month,and we can't buy anything except handguns,well,we can buy rifles and semiautomatic or automatic,etc,but they have to not be activated (they have to be not working,just for collection).

in fact,the only weapon that we are able to own for shooting is the handgun,and it has to be of a not big caliber (as i know,no more than 45.)

[Bladensburg]

Are you not allowed to buy bolt-action centrefires, rimfires or shotguns Erwin?

[Sturmtruppen]

Are you not allowed to buy bolt-action centrefires, rimfires or shotguns Erwin?

No,that's only for collectionists,and it has to not be activated (civilians cannot shoot any of those weapons,only handguns and they need as i said,an expensive license and they can go to the jail if they do bad use of the weapon),those rifles only can be bought for exposition,or personal collection.
Military personal and Police or other forces such as gendarmerie are allowed to the use of this weapons,depends on each function that they do have.

greetings

[student-scaley]

So Erwin, if i understand it correctly you cannot shoot the weapons in your collections at all?

[Sturmtruppen]

So Erwin, if i understand it correctly you cannot shoot the weapons in your collections at all?

I can't,because i can only buy weapons that aren't working (that can't shoot),i can only buy inactive weapons ,just for looking.
The only weapon that i can shoot is a handgun,and first,i need the requeriments that i posted in the other post.

[Twitch1]

With all the anti freaks in Australia and NZ you must be at the top of somebody's "potentially dangerous mofos" list with that bunch. :D

[bas]

With all the anti freaks in Australia and NZ you must be at the top of somebody's "potentially dangerous mofos" list with that bunch. :D

Doubt it, there are much bigger collections in NZ than mine, besides we scared most of the anti-gunners away, they are getting more simpthy in Australia.

Erwin, doesn't sound like I'd like Argentinan gun laws at all :(

Anyone else collect? Have images to share?

[LargeBrew]

Bas, I lived in NZ for a while back in the early 90's and noticed a good selection of classic weapons available from dealers though only having temporary status buying was'nt an option. One store I visited in Cromwell ( Otago ) had a selection of Russian and Chinese AK's and SKS's that were souveniers from the Vietnam war and stacks of ww2 vintage Lee Enfields the store owner was a top bloke.
What part of NZ are you from.

[Twitch1]

Besides just a handful of old stuff my weapons are mostly modern pistols which my family and I shoot at the indoor range. Both my daughters enjoy the sport and we have other female friends that go along with us. Bottom line is that we have fun! :D

[DerMann]

I have a Webley Mk. VI made in 1916 and a Czech Mauser Vz.24 made in 1938, but that's it.

[bas]

Bottom line is that we have fun! :D

Thats the most important part, its a hobbie after all not a competition.

DerMann is the Webley in .455? have you ever shot it?

[DerMann]

Yes, and yes.

[cpl condor]

There are a number of members here who, through one way or an other have considerable experience with WWII and other firearms.

My personal experience is is through collecting. In New Zealand we have a special category of licence for collectors that allows us to own a wide range of firearms.

I've had this licence for over 10 years now and have assembled a collection that I'm very proud of, not as impressive as others I've seen, but still an achievement in it's own right.

And because I'm proud of my collection and hope others are proud of theirs, I thought I'd start a thread where we can all show off.

My collection is theme is The Great Patriotic War; infantry weapons used on both sides. I started with the Russians because being on a students budget when I began it was a unique and cheap place to start. Since then I've expanded the German side some as well, with a few bits and pieces in between.

So here we have them, these are all mine and live:
The Russians:
http://www.gunpics.net/images/russians2.JPG
2 m91/30 Mosin Nagants
2 SVT40's
Mosin m44 & m38
Mosin m91/30 PU sniper
2 m1895 Nagants
2 TT-33's
PPSh-41
PPS-43
Maxim PM1910
DP-27

The Germans:
http://www.gunpics.net/images/germans2.JPG
Kar98k
G43
P.38
P.08
Nazi Radom
Nazi Browning HP
MP.44 & MP.43
MP.40
MG.34

The rest:
http://www.gunpics.net/images/misc.JPG
2 Beretta m34 pistols one is a Finnish contract
m1 carbine
Portugese mauser
No4 Mk1
Arasaka type 38 carbine
Carcarno carbine
Chinese Type 56 semi-auto and Russian Tigr SVD clone.

I look forward to seeing others collections.
Around here, we can't buy a MP 44, I love it, It's a cult object
the first of this class... I hate you :evil:

[cpl condor]

Are you not allowed to buy bolt-action centrefires, rimfires or shotguns Erwin?

No,that's only for collectionists,and it has to not be activated (civilians cannot shoot any of those weapons,only handguns and they need as i said,an expensive license and they can go to the jail if they do bad use of the weapon),those rifles only can be bought for exposition,or personal collection.
Military personal and Police or other forces such as gendarmerie are allowed to the use of this weapons,depends on each function that they do have.

greetings
Erwin, if you want to shoot a weapon like this, only need the permission of a judge, and enjoy it!!! It is easy and fast . It was for me. :arrow:

[Gutkowski]

Bas ,who's website is www.gunpics.net ? Yours?

[Gutkowski]

There are a number of members here who, through one way or an other have considerable experience with WWII and other firearms.

My personal experience is is through collecting. In New Zealand we have a special category of licence for collectors that allows us to own a wide range of firearms.

I've had this licence for over 10 years now and have assembled a collection that I'm very proud of, not as impressive as others I've seen, but still an achievement in it's own right.

And because I'm proud of my collection and hope others are proud of theirs, I thought I'd start a thread where we can all show off.

My collection is theme is The Great Patriotic War; infantry weapons used on both sides. I started with the Russians because being on a students budget when I began it was a unique and cheap place to start. Since then I've expanded the German side some as well, with a few bits and pieces in between.

So here we have them, these are all mine and live:
The Russians:
http://www.gunpics.net/images/russians2.JPG
2 m91/30 Mosin Nagants
2 SVT40's
Mosin m44 & m38
Mosin m91/30 PU sniper
2 m1895 Nagants
2 TT-33's
PPSh-41
PPS-43
Maxim PM1910
DP-27

The Germans:
http://www.gunpics.net/images/germans2.JPG
Kar98k
G43
P.38
P.08
Nazi Radom
Nazi Browning HP
MP.44 & MP.43
MP.40
MG.34

The rest:
http://www.gunpics.net/images/misc.JPG
2 Beretta m34 pistols one is a Finnish contract
m1 carbine
Portugese mauser
No4 Mk1
Arasaka type 38 carbine
Carcarno carbine
Chinese Type 56 semi-auto and Russian Tigr SVD clone.

I look forward to seeing others collections.

I wish we could collect some of the hardware you have here in the states
most of what you have needs a Class 3 Lic. and a 200 dollar tax stamp for each machine gun .Most machine guns run $5000.00 and up here and you cant even find a G43 under $1800.00 here :cry:

[bas]

Bas ,who's website is www.gunpics.net ? Yours?

Yes

[Gutkowski]

your web site is well done :lol:

[SS Tiger]

Thats a good site, I spent a while watching the videos. Shame you can't fire the full autos!

[bas]

Thanks for the feed back guys, I hope to update it again this summer. But need to raid a friends collection for that :D

While get to borrow a sterling SMG in the new year which will be nice.

[Gutkowski]

Bas Whats the MFG of you M1 Carbine ?? and is it all orginal (with all parts stamped by the same Mfg)??

[bas]

Bas Whats the MFG of you M1 Carbine ?? and is it all orginal (with all parts stamped by the same Mfg)??

No idea Gutowski, to be honest the carbine is not in a "collectable" state. Some time in its past this rifle was stolen and the crooks ground off the serial number and manufacture's name. To make it worse the stock has been inlet and the recever tapped for a scope.

Apart from that the bore is mint, it has an underwood 6-43 marked barrel with flaming bomb, the stock is stamped SG with a crossed cannons cartouche, the early bolt, rear sight and magazine release (or safety). All the parts are marked SG.

[Gutkowski]

Bas Whats the MFG of you M1 Carbine ?? and is it all orginal (with all parts stamped by the same Mfg)??

No idea Gutowski, to be honest the carbine is not in a "collectable" state. Some time in its past this rifle was stolen and the crooks ground off the serial number and manufacture's name. To make it worse the stock has been inlet and the recever tapped for a scope.

Apart from that the bore is mint, it has an underwood 6-43 marked barrel with flaming bomb, the stock is stamped SG with a crossed cannons cartouche, the early bolt, rear sight and magazine release (or safety). All the parts are marked SG.

Oh man that sucks that it was stolen sorry to hear that :cry:

[bas]

I brought the rifle after it had been recovered by the police who stamped a new serial number on it and then sold it.

Luckily I've never had a gun stolen from me.

[Gutkowski]

still the history of that carbine will forever be lost :cry: