PDA

View Full Version : Who was more evil?

ww2fanatic1944
08-26-2005, 02:24 PM
Hitler-Murdered 6 million + innocent Jews, occupied much of western Europe, heartless to the Russians, lead the Nazi party.

Stalin-Murdered millions upon millions of his own citizens, started the Cold War, lead his country and army with no regard for human life.

Your answers please :wink:
Hosenfield
08-26-2005, 02:39 PM
The men with the most souls, in order: Stalin, Mao, Hitler-
Firefly
08-26-2005, 02:43 PM
This is another one Im not sure on, you should have provided another option, Evil is as Evil does. In my opinion you cant put a poll on this kind of Evility.


Editted to add, I dont think Evility is a real word.
ww2fanatic1944
08-26-2005, 02:53 PM
and wat other option would be needed?
drummerboy
08-26-2005, 03:00 PM
I think both don't deserve to be called humans. Both their intentions and regard for human life was appalling. It's just that Stalin had more of his own people to murder than Hitler. I can't say one is more than the other since both qualify as disposable human beings.
Hosenfield
08-26-2005, 03:16 PM
well, the main difference is that stalin killed whomever he wanted just to stay in power. And that he killed his own people in the millions. Hitler, generally kills other people more.
Firefly
08-26-2005, 03:24 PM
well, the main difference is that stalin killed whomever he wanted just to stay in power. And that he killed his own people in the millions. Hitler, generally kills other people more.

As Stalin was more established than Hitler that is true. But Hitler had his own purges etc. If Hitler had emerged in 1923 and his Putsch had succeeded in proppelling him to power, do you think that he would have gone down the same line as Stalin?

Editted to add, did you get my PM by the way?
ww2fanatic1944
08-26-2005, 03:47 PM
well stalin doesnt go down in history as bad a guy as hitler, because he was on the good guys side. although, he was in my opinion worse.
Topor
08-30-2005, 09:38 PM
Uncle Joe was the worst mass-murderer but Hitler had more potential to harm Humanity.

Stalin (barely) gets my vote, due to the postwar agonies he visited on Eastern Europe.
Had Hitler triumphed, then he would have been worse.
Sturmtruppen
08-30-2005, 09:42 PM
Hitler is a peanut,comparing him to stalin!
Minimalistix
08-31-2005, 01:45 AM
people i rank most evil in modern history:

1. Stalin
2. Ataturk
3. Polpot
4. Tojo
5. Hitler
Firefly
08-31-2005, 07:16 AM
You had to get a pop in there didnt you. Tell us about Ataturk then?

All I could find was this:

http://www.ataturk.com/index2.html
Minimalistix
08-31-2005, 08:08 AM
thats written by a Turk

learn of his atrocities and responsibilies for the death of millions of Orthodox Christians
Firefly
08-31-2005, 09:48 AM
So where can I find the alternative view?
Hosenfield
08-31-2005, 10:29 AM
howis tojo evil? I though he was just a weak, nerdy puppet controlled by his generals
Dani
08-31-2005, 10:30 AM
So where can I find the alternative view?

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/tsa/ata/ata.html

Edited: I suppose that he is pissed off for Armenian genocide http://www.armenian-genocide.org/kemal.html

Second edit: http://www.awm.gov.au/encyclopedia/ataturk.htm !!


Minimalistix, check this: http://www.skp.com.au/memorials/pages/00012.htm

You live in Australia, don't you? :D It is possible that Australian Government to rise a memorial for an evil men? :lol: :lol:
Dani
09-01-2005, 05:15 AM
Hideki Tojo was found quilty for war crimes.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWtojo.htm
Firefly
09-01-2005, 08:16 AM
So where can I find the alternative view?

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/tsa/ata/ata.html

Edited: I suppose that he is pissed off for Armenian genocide http://www.armenian-genocide.org/kemal.html

Second edit: http://www.awm.gov.au/encyclopedia/ataturk.htm !!


Minimalistix, check this: http://www.skp.com.au/memorials/pages/00012.htm

You live in Australia, don't you? :D It is possible that Australian Government to rise a memorial for an evil men? :lol: :lol:

I suppose one country's Monster is anothers hero.
Dani
09-01-2005, 08:18 AM
I suppose one country's Monster is anothers hero.
100% agree with you, Firefly!
Hosenfield
09-01-2005, 05:54 PM
and one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter!

http://www.uruknet.info/freedom%20fighters%20pickup.jpg
Minimalistix
09-01-2005, 06:12 PM
I suppose one country's Monster is anothers hero.

no objection with that post

and i do see why his considered a hero to Turkey, and you people can see why his considered a monster in the Balkans and Armenia and Assyria
Great_Serbia
09-11-2005, 12:35 AM
I really don t know about Ataturk crimes in Balkan's countries.
I know that Turkey was lost 1ST Balkan war 1912 against Balkan league (Serbia & Montenegro, Greece, Bulgaria). As result, Turkey lost large territory which was under her control. And finally Turks were driven from Balkan and they never come back.
So, I really don t know about his crimes in Balkans against ortodox people but I know something about genocide of Armenia people.
If somebody know something about that please reply.
Kurt Panzer Meyer
09-11-2005, 01:55 AM
Minimalistix,

Don't forget though, that Turkey in the 30's signed numerous pacts with Greece and some other Balkan states. Turkey was nearly an ally of Greece in WW2 (Hellenic Ministry of Defence makes this assertion, if you want I can cite the sourcing if you want). In fact, Ioannis Metaxas wanted to remain neutral for the duration of WW2, something that Turkey was able to keep as it had not been subsequently attacked by Italy on October 28, 1940.