Hitler, your thoughts and opinions.

[1000ydstare]

I prefer sane, well researched replys please.

Adolf Hitler.

Did he award himself a medal (Iron Cross) or did he earn it?

Did he really love eva braun

did he really drink carrot juice

did he really have one ball

My personal opinion is that he had his heart in the right place, and rebuilt germany and autobahns. He was just a bread basket aswell!! Had a bit of a penchant for mass slaughter of people he didn't like and may have various dubios personal qualities aswell.

Discuss

[BDL]

He won the Iron Cross on the western front in the 1914-18 war, as a meesanger with a German infantry regiment.

[Man of Stoat]

He was a bit naughty really.

[student-scaley]

He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

[1000ydstare]

Where did the story about his reduced sperm manufacturing capacity come from?

[Sturmtruppen]

he was an error of the humanity,his mother had to kill him!

[Hosenfield]

i've heard that hitler was impotent, thats why he never really got with women. he was afraid that his VOLK would find out...

no wonder he was pissed.

[1000ydstare]

Don't know about the impotentcy but I have read he was a bit of shy of commitment, and a bit of a mong around women. Many of whom were attracted to him, although what they saw in him other than power is beyond me!!!

I mean look at him, promoting the Aryan race, he's 4 foot and a fag butt. Looks like a rat I mean look at him.

[Sturmtruppen]

i've heard that hitler was impotent, thats why he never really got with women. he was afraid that his VOLK would find out...

no wonder he was pissed. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Fuchs66]

he was an error of the humanity,his mother had to kill him!

but without Hitler you would never have had your beloved SS would you? Make your mind up Erwin. :lol:

[Sturmtruppen]

he was an error of the humanity,his mother had to kill him!

but without Hitler you would never have had your beloved SS would you? Make your mind up Erwin. :lol:

Tipical fuchs's comment.
:roll: himmler was,no hitler.

and hitler didn't create the german army.

[Cuts]

he was an error of the humanity,his mother had to kill him!

but without Hitler you would never have had your beloved SS would you? Make your mind up Erwin. :lol:

Tipical fuchs's comment.
:roll: himmler was,no hitler.

and hitler didn't create the german army.
Nor was the SS part of that army.

[Sturmtruppen]

he was an error of the humanity,his mother had to kill him!

but without Hitler you would never have had your beloved SS would you? Make your mind up Erwin. :lol:

Tipical fuchs's comment.
:roll: himmler was,no hitler.

and hitler didn't create the german army.
Nor was the SS part of that army.
In english pleaese :roll:

[Man of Stoat]

Seemed perfectly clear to me, erwin!

[Fuchs66]

Erwin, you being the expert, to whom did the SS swear an Oath of allegiance?

[Cuts]

he was an error of the humanity,his mother had to kill him!

but without Hitler you would never have had your beloved SS would you? Make your mind up Erwin. :lol:

Tipical fuchs's comment.
:roll: himmler was,no hitler.

and hitler didn't create the german army.

Just a question Erwin, why do you consider Fuchs' comment to be typical of his posts ?

I mean for a start, it's not.

[Sturmtruppen]

I mean for a start, it's not.

Cuts,usually fuchs does comments against me,most of the time,they are only for make me looking like the bad guy,and this usually thought since he has a membership here.
im constantly attacked by him,but obviously,i prefer to ignore him.

GOING BACK TO THE TOPIC!,
did he had physchological problems? (apart from those we know)

[Man of Stoat]

I mean for a start, it's not.

Cuts,usually fuchs does comments against me,most of the time,they are only for make me looking like the bad guy,and this usually thought since he has a membership here.
im constantly attacked by him,but obviously,i prefer to ignore him.

GOING BACK TO THE TOPIC!,
did he had physchological problems? (apart from those we know)

Well, he was a vegetarian & that's a pretty serious psychological problem... :lol:

[Sturmtruppen]

Well, he was a vegetarian & that's a pretty serious psychological problem... :lol:

:lol:
,hitler?

[Man of Stoat]

No, Julius Caesar - who do you think? Muppet.

[Sturmtruppen]

No, Julius Caesar - who do you think? Muppet.I thought fuchs!

[Man of Stoat]

Actually, his vegetarianism is disputed, and may have been for medical reasons.

[Cuts]

Cuts,usually fuchs does comments against me,most of the time,they are only for make me looking like the bad guy,and this usually thought since he has a membership here.
im constantly attacked by him,but obviously,i prefer to ignore him.

...

No Erwin, you'll find that the majority of his posts neither mention nor quote you.
You might be getting a little touchy when others' comments aren't to your liking.

[Fuchs66]

A bit of self criticism wouldn't go amiss with you Erwin.

[Fuchs66]

As for the subject of this thread, I feel he was a paranoid, instable sociopath who happened to be in the right place at the right time to seize power.

Dont worry Erwin I'm talking about Hitler not you, although.........hmmmm :lol:

[Walther]

For one thing, if you look at WW1 pictures of Hitler, he was always the tall skinny guy in the back. He was not a coward, he didn't get his Iron Cross first class for nothing (it is rarely handed out to non officers), messenger was one of the most dangerous jobs in the trenches, but he was considered a loner. He was bad in school and was up to the mid 1920s a loser.
According to soldiers who served with him, he tended to stick to himself. He had little of formal education, but read a lot. He could be very charming, if nercessary, though I don't know if he was just acting.

He definitely had a personality disorder.

Jan

[1000ydstare]

Can anyone confirm whether or not he really earnt the Iron Cross. Some say he just gave it to himself.

[Fuchs66]

Can anyone confirm whether or not he really earnt the Iron Cross. Some say he just gave it to himself.

I dont think you will ever be able to confirm this one way or the other 100%. Even if he had awarded himself the Cross I'm sure the files would have also been doctored.

[Walther]

AFAIK; the Iron cross is WW1 vintage.
But, in the 1930s he was rich, and as it was proven recently, when he came to power, he used it to cheat the taxman.

Jan

[IRONMAN]

I read a book about Hitler that said he had truly sick sexual fantasies. I have wondered if it was simply bullhockey agenda or the truth.

[Firefly]

Now thats interesting, do you have the ISBN of the book. Oh and how is your sexual clinic coming along, maybe you could have helped Hitler out if you were alive back then?

[IRONMAN]

Now thats interesting, do you have the ISBN of the book. Oh and how is your sexual clinic coming along, maybe you could have helped Hitler out if you were alive back then?

I don't have the book or the SBPCN.

It's all good thanks.

[Firefly]

Well thats a surprise then :roll:

[IRONMAN]

Some say Hitler was from hell. Some say he was a demon in the service of it. :twisted:

[Flash]

Some say Hitler was from hell. Some say he was a demon in the service of it. :twisted:

And what do people from this planet say, prick?

[IRONMAN]

Some say Hitler was from hell. Some say he was a demon in the service of it. :twisted:

And what do people from this planet say, prick?
:roll:

[Ale]

Some say Hitler was from hell. Some say he was a demon in the service of it. :twisted:

Ahhhh, Demons eh?

I believe that this is her department:

http://www.sendit.com/img/video/cover_max/front-sorted/5000000/00/10/38.jpg

[Bluffcove]

Hitler versus buffy.

Im only curious but Im sure that there is a niche market for films along those sorts of lines, under the counter types, nudge nudge wink wink.

[Flash]

Some may say Bush is like Hitler in 50 years time. You never know.

[Bluffcove]

Both dead? :lol:

[FW-190 Pilot]

what i know about hitler is, his mom is about to abortion before he is born, but the doctor urge her not to do it, so she listen to the doctor and give birth to hitler

[Bluffcove]

On the subject of he with the comedy 'tache.
Changing History by Steven Fry its an interesting book if you can get hold of it, HE does clever thins around the ends of chapters and the story nearly holds together too.

[Sturmtruppen]

Both dead? :lol:

Wah!

(i learnt it thanks to some good friends :D )

[Bluffcove]

Not a Waaaah

In fifty years time they will both be dead.

If I had said that George bush "is" dead, then that would be a Waaah.

wah can be written with any numbero of "As" though of course the bigger the mistake/lie the more "As"

[Sturmtruppen]

I know,like a Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

bush is dead in his brain,just his body is alive

[IRONMAN]

Both dead? :lol:

Wah!

(i learnt it thanks to some good friends :D )

Erwin, you might like to know that most presidents have not been soldiers. Please, feel free to bitch about all of them and make cartoons of them for it. While you're at it, do the same for the DICKtatorial rulers of Argentian. :lol:

[Sturmtruppen]

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6252/troll9kx.jpg

[Sturmtruppen]

priapicman,no offense,but i prefer to have galtieri instead of bush!

[Commando Jordovski]

Both dead? :lol:

Wah!

(i learnt it thanks to some good friends :D )

Erwin, you might like to know that most presidents have not been soldiers. Please, feel free to bitch about all of them and make cartoons of them for it. While you're at it, do the same for the DICKtatorial rulers of Argentian. :lol:

That was not appropriate IRONMAN if your going to mock a south american nation do it with your dad while your being captured by north koreans. :evil:

[IRONMAN]

Both dead? :lol:

Wah!

(i learnt it thanks to some good friends :D )

Erwin, you might like to know that most presidents have not been soldiers. Please, feel free to bitch about all of them and make cartoons of them for it. While you're at it, do the same for the DICKtatorial rulers of Argentian. :lol:

That was not appropriate IRONMAN if your going to mock a south american nation do it with your dad while your being captured by north koreans. :evil:

Sure it was appropriate. He posted a picture of the president of my nation that is inflamatory, he deserves the same, you moron.

[Hanz Lutz]

Ironman is insult moderator ,he should get warning i think .

[pdf27]

Ironman is insult moderator ,he should get warning i think .
Ummm... from memory, Ironman has had sufficient warnings that next time he gets one he's banned for good. The first 10 warnings or so certainly didn't seem to change his behaviour very much...

[Firefly]

Ironman is insult moderator ,he should get warning i think .
Ummm... from memory, Ironman has had sufficient warnings that next time he gets one he's banned for good. The first 10 warnings or so certainly didn't seem to change his behaviour very much...

Well I did read on another thread just now that Gen S has stated pretty much the same. Banned for good.

[Sturmtruppen]

Sure it was appropriate. He posted a picture of the president of my nation that is inflamatory, he deserves the same, you moron.

FRIONPAN,your president is inflamatory

[ww2fanatic1944]

i only skimmed through this topic...because alot of it is about ironman, like most topics these days are, but this is what i think of hitler, it might have already been said....

I think that Hitler really did believe that he was doing the right thing for Germany. when you have tens of millions of insanely dedicated people behind you, and you are making speaches in front of hundreds of thousands of supporters every day, then it is hard to think that you could be doing the wrong thing. but, hitler had a mental problem, and he got way to carried away with himself and Nazi germany. this lead to atrocious acts such as the mass murder of the jews, attacking innocent countries, killing non nazi supporters, etc. i think that hitler was trying to do something good for germany, but he was still a mad man and ended murdering millions upon millions of people.

[IRONMAN]

priapicman,no offense,but i prefer to have galtieri instead of bush!

My favovite game! United Offensive, that is.

[Firefly]

priapicman,no offense,but i prefer to have galtieri instead of bush!

My favovite game! United Offensive, that is.

TROLL POST

Absolutely no reference to the quote you stated.

REASON

Your just looking for a reaction.

[Sturmtruppen]

Firefly is totally correct

[Topor]

priapicman,no offense,but i prefer to have galtieri instead of bush!

My favovite game! United Offensive, that is.

TROLL POST

Because it has nothing to do with the original subject.

[Sturmtruppen]

priapicman,no offense,but i prefer to have galtieri instead of bush!

My favovite game! United Offensive, that is.

it is favourite!,no favovite,you fucking dribble piss.

[Hanz Lutz]

priapicman,no offense,but i prefer to have galtieri instead of bush!

My favovite game! United Offensive, that is.

it is favourite!,no favovite,you fucking dribble piss.

He is drunk :lol: :lol:

[Sturmtruppen]

He is drunk :lol: :lol:
Erwin? :P

[Topor]

As thread has now sunk to the bottom of cesspit, I add this piece of doggerel, sung by many a "Schätzered" :wink: soldier (now there's relevance for you).

Hitler has only got one ball

The other is in the Albert Hall

Himmler, he is quite similar

But Goebbels has no balls at all


I learned this off a Guards DI when I was about six years old - Mother wasn't amused :twisted:

[Hanz Lutz]

He is drunk :lol: :lol:
Erwin? :P

Not you Ironman. 8)

[T-34s_Are_Cool]

Hitler was (sorry to all ppl out there who dont like bad english) without a doubt a nasty little cunt

[Sturmtruppen]

He is drunk :lol: :lol:
Erwin? :P

Not you Ironman. 8)
Ohh,you lost the opportunity mate :D ,i was also drunk!

[Tsolias]

Hitler was (sorry to all ppl out there who dont like bad english) without a doubt a nasty little cunt

I strongly disagree.



He was a nasty HUGE c@nt.

[Firefly]

Gentlemen, may I remind you that children read this forum.

Where is Commando by the Way, isnt he supposed to be a MOD?

[Hanz Lutz]

He is drunk :lol: :lol:
Erwin? :P

Not you Ironman. 8)
Ohh,you lost the opportunity mate :D ,i was also drunk!

Ah ok Erwin :lol: and like Firefly said where is Commando,he is MOD he must do your job.

[PzKpfw VI Tiger]

Hitler was (sorry to all ppl out there who dont like bad english) without a doubt a nasty little cunt

Nice to see some Anglo Saxon words have made it into our vernacular.

[Sturmtruppen]

Gentlemen, may I remind you that children read this forum.

Where is Commando by the Way, isnt he supposed to be a MOD?

Pride :D ,you will be a good dad firefly,Cheers! :)

[tobias]

Adolf Hitler.

Did he award himself a medal (Iron Cross) or did he earn it?
=> He earned it, I think

Did he really love eva braun
=> Yes, he loved her, but did she love him?

did he really drink carrot juice
=> sure, why not? :)

did he really have one ball
=> What on earth makes you think that way?

[BDL]

Did he really love eva braun
=> Yes, he loved her, but did she love him?

Of course she did, she stayed in Berlin to die with him.

[PLT.SGT.BAKER]

lots of ppl say that hitler has..one ball :!:

[Man of Stoat]

lots of ppl say that hitler has..one ball :!:

Hitler has only got one ball,
Goering has got to but the small,
Himmler's got something similar,
but poor old Goebbels has no balls at all.

It's just a song, it's not true.

[Bladensburg]

According to Richard Gordon's Ailments Through the Ages: An alarming history of famous and difficult patients Hitler ...had only a right testicle. He suffered a post-nasal drip, boils on the back of his neck and eczema on his left shin.

[PLT.SGT.BAKER]

hmmmm so it is true... he got one ball!!!!!!

[SS Tiger]

You should at least have some respect for the way he rose too the top of German. He came from just about nothing to be one of the most important men in history. He also brought Germany out of the great depression and life in Germany was greatly improved compared to the years before. His goal of making Germany economically self-sufficient was great one and he had just about achieved it. The racial impurity bit was all wrong and why he did that I'm not sure maybe his experiences in his early life were responsible for these actions.

I saw program on BBC Three about Hitlers health and it said he had both balls, he was also on cocaine eye drops! :shock:

[Firefly]

Pray tell us, how did he rise to the top in Germany?

[Man of Stoat]

Pray tell us, how did he rise to the top in Germany?

He was elected, surprisingly, although his campaigning practices were not necessarily kosher.

If I were a moral relativist, I would now attempt to draw a parallel between this and new Labour's vote rigging and electoral malpractice over the last few years, but I won't.

[Firefly]

Vote rigging is a pretty big accusation Stoat, do you have proof of this with references etc?

I for one would be interested.

[Man of Stoat]

Vote rigging is a pretty big accusation Stoat, do you have proof of this with references etc?

I for one would be interested.

Not just an accusation -- Labour councillors have already been prosecuted for it.

Labour election fraud ‘would disgrace a banana republic’


A quick search reveals:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/4406575.stm
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1555518,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1562417,00.html
http://www.wheresthepaper.org/NewsTelegraph05_04LabourActivistsHijackedPostalVot es.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/west_yorkshire/4536101.stm


The BBC also discovered abandoned buildings with multiple postal ballot registrations, which was on BBC London News. Strangely, these were all in Labour dominated areas.

There was also the scandal involving service voter registrations, which ensured that vast numbers of servicemen on active service could not vote in the general election.

This was all over the mainstream media!

[SS Tiger]

Pray tell us, how did he rise to the top in Germany?

Hitler did attempt and uprising called "The Munich Putsch" using his SA troops. This uprising failed and landed him in prison. After that he used propergander that fed off the German peoples bad situation caused by the "Treaty of versaille" Hitler promised freedom from the treaty. The Weimar republic was losing the confidence of the people and with Hitler's promise of freedom from the treaty and work and food for all Germans he got the votes. President Hindenburg made Hitler the chancellor which gave him allot more power. He then proceeded to get the support of other nationalist parties which gave him the overruling vote in the Reichstag. So he was legally elected and put in power. Once Hindenburg died Hitler combined the postions of president and chancellor into one postion "Fuhrer" He now had control of Germany's military aswell.

[Firefly]

Vote rigging is a pretty big accusation Stoat, do you have proof of this with references etc?

I for one would be interested.

Not just an accusation -- Labour councillors have already been prosecuted for it.

Labour election fraud ‘would disgrace a banana republic’


A quick search reveals:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/4406575.stm
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1555518,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1562417,00.html
http://www.wheresthepaper.org/NewsTelegraph05_04LabourActivistsHijackedPostalVot es.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/west_yorkshire/4536101.stm


The BBC also discovered abandoned buildings with multiple postal ballot registrations, which was on BBC London News. Strangely, these were all in Labour dominated areas.

There was also the scandal involving service voter registrations, which ensured that vast numbers of servicemen on active service could not vote in the general election.

This was all over the mainstream media!

Thanks for that, interesting, but not in my mind a direct correlation to 1930's Germany.

Of course other countries have had hanging Chads etc in the past.

[The Master of Puppets]

In my opinion, hitler was more a visionary rather than a commander, his decisions on the battle field were sometimes flawed which meant battlefied decisions should have been left to the generals. As the russkies pushed into berlin, he slowly started to turn insane, hoping for divisions that no longer existed to come and save berlin. It was only until the last day that he finally realised all was lost and so took his own life. Hitler was powerful enough to hypnotise a whole nation into being fanatical enough to defend their capital to the last bullet and take their own lives over surrendering to the russkies.

[PLT.SGT.BAKER]

ppl say hitler had some sort of disease of something, i forgot what it was called i know it begins with an S.and thats what lead him to become a madman.

[Cuts]

Syphilis perhaps ?

Never go out with girls called Eva Braun.

[SS Tiger]

Syphilis perhaps ?

Never go out with girls called Eva Braun.

The story says he caught it off some tart when he was a student in Wien(Vienna). I don't think its been proven either way though.

[cpl condor]

at some time he was prudent? I don't think so..

[LargeBrew]

Hitlers condition is far too complex to be put down to a single diagnosis such as syphilis related dementia as this tends to surface in the final stages and is usually identified with other more noticable physical symptoms such as open sores/ulcers and is typified by what is generally known as being non compis mentis, Hitlers ability to recognise his failure and ultimate suicide tends to rule that out .
Hitler had been barking mad for years and is more likley to have been suffering from a deep seated psycholgical disorder possibly related to his experiences during ww1 coupled with some childhood trauma related to issues around power and self detemination add to that his possible psychosexual (emasulation) fears related to testicular deficiancy and some sort of edipul comlex and failure to achieve in his chosen field, he was a psychological time bomb.
In simple terms he may have been a testicularly challenged bullied child from a socially deprived background with PTSD and passive aggressive tendancies who just got too much power and was able to act out his revenge/domination fantasy's.
Like I said he is a complex character but what do I know after all I'm only a pole dancer. :lol:

[Cuts]

Hitlers condition is far too complex to be put down to a single diagnosis such as syphilis related dementia as this tends to surface in the final stages and is usually identified with other more noticable physical symptoms such as open sores/ulcers and is typified by what is generally known as being non compis mentis, Hitlers ability to recognise his failure and ultimate suicide tends to rule that out .
Hitler had been barking mad for years and is more likley to have been suffering from a deep seated psycholgical disorder possibly related to his experiences during ww1 coupled with some childhood trauma related to issues around power and self detemination add to that his possible psychosexual (emasulation) fears related to testicular deficiancy and some sort of edipul comlex and failure to achieve in his chosen field, he was a psychological time bomb.
In simple terms he may have been a testicularly challenged bullied child from a socially deprived background with PTSD and passive aggressive tendancies who just got too much power and was able to act out his revenge/domination fantasy's.
Like I said he is a complex character but what do I know after all I'm only a pole dancer. :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

How is Miss Hydrokawitz anyway ?

[Sturmtruppen]

Hitler was a war hero,yes,he did have the brain fucked but he had a pair of balls i think,he wasn't condecorated in the first ww?,however,in the second i think the fame went on his brain and he started playing like maggie tatcher.

[Firefly]

So Hitler started acting like an elected leader? I think I missed the bit where he was voted out of power in 1938?

I will ask you to think about your post and consider editting it Erwin.

[Cuts]

Hitler was a war hero,yes,he did have the brain fucked but he had a pair of balls

...

Adolf Hitler a war hero ? :shock:

Well that's a turn on things ! I think you'll find there is a rather large percentage of the world's population that may take issue with your ideas of heroism.

[SS Tiger]

Hitler was a war hero,yes,he did have the brain fucked but he had a pair of balls

...

Adolf Hitler a war hero ? :shock:

Well that's a turn on things ! I think you'll find there is a rather large percentage of the world's population that may take issue with your ideas of heroism.

He means in WW1, for which he was decorated.

[Dani]

He means in WW1, for which he was decorated.

I will give you some examples (alphabetically sorted):

Doenitz, Karl
Frank, Hans
Goering, Hermann
Hess, Rudolf
Jodl, Alfred
Keitel, Wilhelm
Raeder, Erich

You heard of them, they are highly decorated officers, marshalls, etc.

Their decorations (in the war!!!!) made them war heroes????

A good reading:
here (http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/nuremberg.htm)

You noticed already that they were "Major War Criminals"

[SS Tiger]

He means in WW1, for which he was decorated.

I will give you some examples (alphabetically sorted):

Doenitz, Karl
Frank, Hans
Goering, Hermann
Hess, Rudolf
Jodl, Alfred
Keitel, Wilhelm
Raeder, Erich

You heard of them, they are highly decorated officers, marshalls, etc.

Their decorations (in the war!!!!) made them war heroes????

A good reading:
here (http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/nuremberg.htm)

You noticed already that they were "Major War Criminals"

First world war heros, second world war war criminals. Anyone who fights for their country is in my opinion is a war hero, obviously war crimes are not heroic.

[Sturmtruppen]

I WANTED TO SAY THAT HE WAS A WW1 HERO,HE WAS CONSIDERED AN HERO DURING WW1,NOT THAT I THINK HE IS AN HERO!!!!,IN WW2 HE TURNED INTO A DEMON!!!,STOP MISUNDERSTANDING MY WORDS,ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE ME LOOK LIKE THE BAD GUY,FUCK OOF.

[SS Tiger]

Hey, don't worry Erwin I understood and tried to clarify.

Hitler got Iron Cross 2nd Class in WW1.

[Dani]

I WANTED TO SAY THAT HE WAS A WW1 HERO,HE WAS CONSIDERED AN HERO DURING WW1,NOT THAT I THINK HE IS AN HERO!!!!,IN WW2 HE TURNED INTO A BRIT!!!,STOP MISUNDERSTANDING MY WORDS,ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE ME LOOK LIKE THE BAD GUY,FUCK OOF.

Erwin if you don't want to be seen as a bad guy, pay attention to your posts. Think twice, post once.

[Sturmtruppen]

Hey, don't worry Erwin I understood and tried to clarify.

No mate!,you haven't done nothing bad,excuse me,i was talking about cuts "enemaguy" and david firefly!,also dani but he is a mod now so i will not include him.

[Sturmtruppen]

Erwin if you don't want to be seen as a bad guy, pay attention to your posts. Think twice, post once.

edit the posts granny,ban me,do whatever you want but i don't want my balls broken again and you seems to be more corrupt than an argentine politic.

Happy holidays.

Erwin Schätzer

[BDL]

No mate!,you haven't done nothing bad,excuse me,i was talking about cuts "enemaguy" and david firefly!,also dani but he is a mod now so i will not include him.

So is Firefly :wink:

[Sturmtruppen]

No mate!,you haven't done nothing bad,excuse me,i was talking about cuts "enemaguy" and david firefly!,also dani but he is a mod now so i will not include him.

So is Firefly :wink:

but at least dani is more respectable than firefly!.

[Cuts]

I WANTED TO SAY THAT HE WAS A WW1 HERO,HE WAS CONSIDERED AN HERO DURING WW1,NOT THAT I THINK HE IS AN HERO!!!!,IN WW2 HE TURNED INTO A BRIT!!!,STOP MISUNDERSTANDING MY WORDS,ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE ME LOOK LIKE THE BAD GUY,FUCK OOF.

He turned into a Brit ? :?

In an attempt to ensure your words cannot be misunderstood Erwin, I have reproduced our original statement in full.

Hitler was a war hero,yes,he did have the brain fucked but he had a pair of balls i think,he wasn't condecorated in the first ww?,however,in the second i think the fame went on his brain and he started playing like maggie tatcher.

I did not rise then but as you seem to insist on bringing it up please tell me exactly what you mean when you claim Adolf Hitler became British.


Thank you for your kind words.

[Dani]

but at least dani is more respectable than firefly!.

Of course I am because as Erwin said I am "granny" :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Sturmtruppen]

I WANTED TO SAY THAT HE WAS A WW1 HERO,HE WAS CONSIDERED AN HERO DURING WW1,NOT THAT I THINK HE IS AN HERO!!!!,IN WW2 HE TURNED INTO A BRIT!!!,STOP MISUNDERSTANDING MY WORDS,ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE ME LOOK LIKE THE BAD GUY,FUCK OOF.

He turned into a Brit ? :?

In an attempt to ensure your words cannot be misunderstood Erwin, I have reproduced our original statement in full.

Hitler was a war hero,yes,he did have the brain fucked but he had a pair of balls i think,he wasn't condecorated in the first ww?,however,in the second i think the fame went on his brain and he started playing like maggie tatcher.

I did not rise then but as you seem to insist on bringing it up please tell me exactly what you mean when you claim Adolf Hitler became British.


Thank you for your kind words.
I wasn't talking about all brits,i was talking about a brit like YOU.

now wank or whatever but be happy without crashing my balls.

[SS Tiger]

I assume English isn't Erwins first language so we should also read his posts twice, in his post it was far more likely to be a "Lost in the translation" than Erwin thinking Hitler was a hero so I assumed based on that he was saying Hitler was a hero in the first world war not for what he did in the 2nd.

[Sturmtruppen]

I assume English isn't Erwins first language so we should also read his posts twice, in his post it was far more likely to be a "Lost in the translation" than Erwin thinking Hitler was a hero so I assumed based on that he was saying Hitler was a hero in the first world war not for what he did in the 2nd.

THANKYOU GOD!,SOMEBODY THAT UNDERSTANDS ME!

[Cuts]

I WANTED TO SAY THAT HE WAS A WW1 HERO,HE WAS CONSIDERED AN HERO DURING WW1,NOT THAT I THINK HE IS AN HERO!!!!,IN WW2 HE TURNED INTO A BRIT!!!,STOP MISUNDERSTANDING MY WORDS,ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE ME LOOK LIKE THE BAD GUY,FUCK OOF.

Erwin if you don't want to be seen as a bad guy, pay attention to your posts. Think twice, post once.

We have an expression in the British Army that we tell all new recruits:

"You have two ears and one mouth. Use them in that proportion !"

I have always tried to adhere to that maxim as it has kept many people out of trouble.
It's fine to think one's superior is a clown - less advisable to voice it.

[BDL]

I assume English isn't Erwins first language so we should also read his posts twice, in his post it was far more likely to be a "Lost in the translation" than Erwin thinking Hitler was a hero so I assumed based on that he was saying Hitler was a hero in the first world war not for what he did in the 2nd.

Erwin has a bit of a history with some members of this site and, shall we say, controversial posting - hence why he does not get quite so much slack as others with English as their second language would.

[Sturmtruppen]

I WANTED TO SAY THAT HE WAS A WW1 HERO,HE WAS CONSIDERED AN HERO DURING WW1,NOT THAT I THINK HE IS AN HERO!!!!,IN WW2 HE TURNED INTO A BRIT!!!,STOP MISUNDERSTANDING MY WORDS,ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE ME LOOK LIKE THE BAD GUY,FUCK OOF.

Erwin if you don't want to be seen as a bad guy, pay attention to your posts. Think twice, post once.

We have an expression in the British Army that we tell all new recruits:

"You have two ears and one mouth. Use them in that proportion !"

I have always tried to adhere to that maxim as it has kept many people out of trouble.
It's fine to think one's superior is a clown - less advisable to voice it.

In the ARRSE they never used it.

here in the Argentine Army we have a better one for new recruits:

"Move your fucking ass, GO GO GO GO!!!,you look like a down syndrome!,shit!,my granmother is faster than you ,son of the pitch!".

well,something like that..

[Cuts]

I WANTED TO SAY THAT HE WAS A WW1 HERO,HE WAS CONSIDERED AN HERO DURING WW1,NOT THAT I THINK HE IS AN HERO!!!!,IN WW2 HE TURNED INTO A BRIT!!!,STOP MISUNDERSTANDING MY WORDS,ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE ME LOOK LIKE THE BAD GUY,FUCK OOF.

He turned into a Brit ? :?

In an attempt to ensure your words cannot be misunderstood Erwin, I have reproduced our original statement in full.

Hitler was a war hero,yes,he did have the brain fucked but he had a pair of balls i think,he wasn't condecorated in the first ww?,however,in the second i think the fame went on his brain and he started playing like maggie tatcher.

I did not rise then but as you seem to insist on bringing it up please tell me exactly what you mean when you claim Adolf Hitler became British.


Thank you for your kind words.
I wasn't talking about all brits,i was talking about a brit like YOU.

now wank or whatever but be happy without crashing my balls.

Young man, you do not know me, my religion or my politics, yet you are saying that that I am similar to Adolf Hitler ?

Grow up and think about what you post, you are making yourself look an even bigger fool than people had already gathered.
If that is at all possible.

[LargeBrew]

Though I have no fond feelings for Mrs Thatcher but to liken her to Hitler is way off the mark.
I can think of one national leader that had similarities to Hitler.
This person lead a facist dictatorship
had a habit of having his political opponents off'ed
took his country to war on the pretext of regaining disputed territory
had his arrse handed to him

Can we guess who this leader was.

send your answers on a post card to

The Leopoldo Galteri competiton
C/O
The cunning stunt
Lap Dancing and Snooker Club
Liverpool

[SS Tiger]

Though I have no fond feelings for Mrs Thatcher but to liken her to Hitler is way off the mark.

Thatcher and Hitler both abolished trade unions thats about the only similarity.

[BDL]

Though I have no fond feelings for Mrs Thatcher but to liken her to Hitler is way off the mark.

Thatcher and Hitler both abolished trade unions thats about the only similarity.

Thatcher never abolioshed trade unions

[Man of Stoat]

Though I have no fond feelings for Mrs Thatcher but to liken her to Hitler is way off the mark.

Thatcher and Hitler both abolished trade unions thats about the only similarity.

Apart from Margaret Thatcher didn't abolish trade unions.

She may have traded blows with them, and curtailed their power and influence, but she never abolished them.

[SS Tiger]

Ok, my mistake, she greatly weakened the trade unions.

[BDL]

Ok, my mistake, she greatly weakened the trade unions.

Mostly because the unions spent the 1970s destroying the country's economy

[Man of Stoat]

Ok, my mistake, she greatly weakened the trade unions.

They greatly needed it, having brought Britain to a virtual standstill in the 1970s.

[Man of Stoat]

Damn, BDL - are we singing from the same song sheet or something?

[Firefly]

No mate!,you haven't done nothing bad,excuse me,i was talking about cuts "enemaguy" and david firefly!,also dani but he is a mod now so i will not include him.

So is Firefly :wink:

but at least dani is more respectable than firefly!.

I'm almost certain Dani is!

[Firefly]

Well despite this developing into an interesting topic, its unfortunately off topic.

Erwin

Your list of insults and insulting behaviour continues to grow.

Please understand that from this point on if I see another blatant insult or a flame against anyone it will be simply deleted.

If you want to argue your case, then do so in a grown up manner, if not, you have been warned.

[Sturmtruppen]

delete my posts if you want,but then i will replace them with new ones.
ban me,i have a plenty of forums in the net.
merry christmas

[Dani]

delete my posts if you want,but then i will replace them with new ones.
ban me,i have a plenty of forums in the net.
merry christmas

I just deleted a lot of off-topic non-sense posts. Erwin, because you just continued with your stupid games and attracted a new (and young) member into it, THIS IS OUR last informal warning.

As you said, you have a lot of forums where you could act like a clown without any warnings/banning, etc. Go there mate and post anything you want and when you are calm down, come back and contribute.

Merry Christmas!!

[PLT.SGT.BAKER]

Wait am I the young and new member that got attracted into his nonsense? :?

[FW-190 Pilot]

no, he acts like that since he join this forum.
It has nothing to do with you

[PLT.SGT.BAKER]

:o :? :) :D :lol: 8) (sighs of relief)

[FW-190 Pilot]

so how will you spend your christmas?

[PLT.SGT.BAKER]

my family and my cuz'es family are goning to spend it together like a huge party! :D

[FW-190 Pilot]

good for you
not too good for me though:(

[Man of Stoat]

no, he acts like that since he join this forum.
It has nothing to do with you

And yet, for some reason, he was made a moderator.

[1000ydstare]

Moving on to adolf, Eva Braun was very much in love with him, but he always seemed to push her away. She was very much pushed in to the shadows when people were needed, and I think tried to commit suicide more than once.

adolf also had an interest in the occult and really did have people out scouring the earth for various artifacts - think Indianna Jones.

If he had ever taken Britain amongst his top jobs on his things to do list was to investigate how the school system worked (with grammer schools public schools, etc) and look at the Masons.

[FluffyBunnyGB]

Whilst watching Maj Dick Strawbridge on "Crafty Tricks of War" this morning (and warming the oven ready to load turkey & venison for the Xmas Dinner Fireplan), he was talking about assasination as a weapon of war, with particular reference to that nasty little oik, Heydrich.

I wonder what would have happened in WW2 if Hitler had been whacked in, say 1942, and some one who knew how to fight a war had taken over.

I'm still pretty sure the Germans would have lost, having the USSR against them on a land border, but without the BIC running the show, would peace have been possible? Or would some other Nazi have seized power and things run their course anyway?

[Bladensburg]

Hmm, there might have been an interesting Goering/Geobels/Himmler three-way scrap, as the succession wasn't really decided.

[LargeBrew]

Now that would be an interesting scenario for a what if. Himmler V Goering, with Himmler using his SS to enforce his claim opposed by an allience of airforce and army under Goering. Rather than a more competent replacment for Hitler increasing the chances of an Axis victory the war machine may have destroyed it's self through civil war.

Himmler was ruthless little weasle and would most likley have had the opposition slotted before rigor set in on Adolfs corpse

[SS Tiger]

Now that would be an interesting scenario for a what if. Himmler V Goering, with Himmler using his SS to enforce his claim opposed by an allience of airforce and army under Goering. Rather than a more competent replacment for Hitler increasing the chances of an Axis victory the war machine may have destroyed it's self through civil war.

Himmler was ruthless little weasle and would most likley have had the opposition slotted before rigor set in on Adolfs corpse

More likely high ranking officals in the Wehrmacht would take their chance and take control of the government.

[1000ydstare]

No chance of that except where they planned it all out, as in the bomb attempt at wolfs lair.

If he was killed in anything other than a planned operation during the ensueing chaos the winners would be those who held the keys to state security. Ie the SS and the Gestapo, anyone who attempted to gain power other than those would probably find themselves under investigation or worse.

It would be the "night of the long knives" all over again.

adolf ran his affairs very strangley, apparently he loved to pit people against each other as rivals, sort of say to one person can you do this job and then ask another person to do the same.

As has been mentioned there was no designated 2ic. This again was probably so he could swap people around as it fitted.

Saw a tv programe recently about the bomb attempt, and it was so close to succeding it was unreal!!!

They tried many different scenarios, all of which only fate had affected. If only if only.

If he had been offed, the chaos in Germany would have led to a swift demise on the Eastern front, and could (conceiveably) have seen the Warsaw Pact extending deep in to Europe, including the Danes and French with dire consequences for the swiss.

In fact the very scenario of him being killed, with 20/20 hindsight is truly terrorfying. On one side a militarily competent leader takes over and Germany actually wins. On the other side the german war machine and social apparatus collapses due to savage in fighting and the Russian war machine rolls west.

The infighting could easily have spread to the fronts, with SS units turning on the other units loyal to this leader or that. With also the possibility of units turning on the SS.

The end game scenario fo rthe bomb attempt consisted of army officers seizing power and then looking for a way to stop the war. In this there were plans for the removing of key personnel to prevent the infighting (pretty sure this included most of the top nazis). Whether it would have worked or not is another matter. After all the Russians were going to be very hard to stop by force or by talk.

[WaistGunner]

Couple of quick observations..

1. It was mentioned earlier about the way Hitler was reclusive. In the book The Life and Death of Adolf Hitler by Robert Payne, it explains that when Hitler was a small child he was outgoing and people found him to be a joy to be around. When his little brother died that all changed. He became reclusive and spent more times in his books then with other people. He was often seen sitting on the cemetary wall overlooking his brother's grave. Combine this with the fact that he was very interested though only moderately talented in art yet he had one of those "manly men" fathers. I can't imagine his father being all to kind when Hitler pursued art and then ultimately failed at it. Like it was pointed out earlier, Hitler was a very complex character. Personally, I have to say he was an evil, disturbed genius. He was able to unite bring his country together and out of a depression, he managed to throw of the Treaty of Versialles without much of a word from other foreign powers, he was able to amass a terrible army, etc. He was not a great military mind and for that I would suppose we should be thankful. As for doing what he thought was the best for Germany, I'm not convinced. I guess he could have been but I can't get over the thought that he was simply using the pride of the German's in his own plot for power. I could be wrong though.

2. As for a successor had Hitler been assasinated, there was already one chosen. I don't remember the exact details of the plot but as I recall the idea was to eliminate Hitler and his closest advisors. The plotters were then going to Place Erwin Rommel in charge. By this time Rommel had long since lost his elusion that Hitler was good for Germany or that Hitler even cared about Germany. However, the plot was discovered shortly before it was to be carried out and Rommel was taken. He was given a choice. If commited suicide he would be declared a hero and his family would be taken care of. If he didn't then he would be tried for treason and his entire family would detroyed. As much as Romel loved his country he loved his wife and son more so he chose to drink the poison he was presented with. Had the plot succeeded the war would have been over. The conspirators (of which Rommel was one) had negotiations for surrender as their top priority. They knew the war was lost and wanted to save as much German pride as they could.

(p.s. If this site could use anything to make it better I would say a spellcheck. I am terrible at spelling so apologize for slaughtered words.)

[Firefly]

In lieu of spellcheck, I always try and preview my post before submiting, but I know what you mean.

Good post by the way...

[jnd2089]

I prefer sane, well researched replys please.

Adolf Hitler.

Did he award himself a medal (Iron Cross) or did he earn it?

Did he really love eva braun

did he really drink carrot juice

did he really have one ball

My personal opinion is that he had his heart in the right place, and rebuilt germany and autobahns. He was just a bread basket aswell!! Had a bit of a penchant for mass slaughter of people he didn't like and may have various dubios personal qualities aswell.

Discuss

Hitler was medically dead...
He sustained injures from WWI, which nearlly killed him, and in protests... His doctor in the 1930's noted all of his features, and took keen interests in his genitals....

To me, Hitler's ideas were wrong.. He made mistakes, such as attacking Russia while fighting the war with Britain...

[kritischmasse]

yep hitler liked laying on the groung and getting urinated on.
There are a few out there still bearing hitlers name.
Stallin killed more people than hitler did.
Germany was more advanced than any country.
the wonderwaffen is similar to todays U.S.A. tomohawk.
Thank god they didnt figure out how to harness nuclear power as a weapon of m.d.
Has anyone mentioned he was part jewish?
Ill take bush over any leader today, gotta give him credit for capturing saddam and killing his demon seeds.
and god forbid living in a monarchy ran by a female...lol.
oh hitler and henry ford were pals.
John wayne also admired him.
I think anyone with super power like that, good or bad, gains the interest of many.

[George Eller]

yep hitler liked laying on the groung and getting urinated on.
There are a few out there still bearing hitlers name.
Stallin killed more people than hitler did.
Germany was more advanced than any country.
the wonderwaffen is similar to todays U.S.A. tomohawk.
Thank god they didnt figure out how to harness nuclear power as a weapon of m.d.
Has anyone mentioned he was part jewish?
Ill take bush over any leader today, gotta give him credit for capturing saddam and killing his demon seeds.
and god forbid living in a monarchy ran by a female...lol.
oh hitler and henry ford were pals.
John wayne also admired him.
I think anyone with super power like that, good or bad, gains the interest of many.
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Was Hitler A Jew? - Blog Day Afternoon
Posted by Jeff (Monday January 19 2004 @ 10:53PM EST)
http://blogdayafternoon.com/articles/04/01/19/0824547/

The insinuation that Hitler was Jewish first surfaced in 1923 as he stepped onto the world stage in wake of a failed coup attempt. Since a central pillar of his political agenda was greatness through Aryan purity, journalists thought it interesting to pry through his geneology. The first bombshell surface in a liberal Vienese paper. It was printed that Hitler's father, Alois, had changed his name from Schiklgruber to Heidler. (Hitler is a variation.) In his ground breaking biography, John Toland mentioned this twist of fate, "It is difficult to imagine seventy million Germans shouting in all seriousness, 'Heil Schiklgruber.'" Difficult or not, the revelation opened the door to other curious possibilities.
A slow but steady stream of journalists and opposition members trickled into northern Austria. They sought records from the Dollersheim parish church registry. Those records contained a second plot twist. The name of Alois Hitler nee Schicklgruber's father was added to the birth registry only in 1876, thirty-nine years after the actual event. That late entry was of dubious legitimacy and based on unconfirmed affidavits. A questionable transaction, it opened the door for further speculation. Since Adolf Hitler rose to prominence in the anti-Semitic far-right, it was delicious irony that fed speculation that his grandfather, unknown to this day, was actually Jewish. Such conjecture dogged Hitler throughout his drive to power.

Nearly three years before he was appointed Chancellor by the ancient Paul Hindenberg, Adolf Hitler held a private consultation with his lawyer, Hans Frank. The topic concerned a blackmail letter from a nephew who claimed Hitler had a Jewish grandfather. The letter probably never existed as the nephew in question was in and out of Germany until 1938. Surely, Hitler would have had the means to silence him. But the "letter" did provide opportunity to broach concern for the prospect of a somewhat less than Aryan grandfather. Frank was sent to Austria to investigate his client's past.

At this point the narrative is heavily depended upon the testimony of Hans Frank. Its details are provided by his autobiography which was penned as he awaited the gallows for crimes against humanity. Those crimes were committed in Poland during the occupation. According to Frank, he had reported to Hilter that his investigation had concluded that Alois Schiklgruber was indeed the illegitimate son of Maria Anna Schiklgruber. She had worked as a domestic for a Jewish family named Frankenberger in the city of Graz. She became pregnant during her tenure. According to Frank, the father was one of the family's sons. This assertion was based on correspondance between Frankenberger and Maria Schiklgruber. Those letters have never surfaced.

The accuracy of the events detailed in Frank's report to Hilter are not likely. According to Nikolaus Preadovic from the University of Graz, there was no record of a Frankenberger in Graz at the time of the events in question. In fact there were no Jews in the entire Styria Province. There were driven from the province in 1496 and did not return until 1856. There was a Frankenreiter from Graz at the time of Alois' birth, but he was the son of a Catholic cobbler. Hitler was not Jewish.

He may not have been Jewish, but that doesn't mean he didn't consider it possible. The details provided by Frank may have been wrong, but that doesn't mean they didn't pique Hitler's interest. On several occasions after 1930, the Gestapo investigated this issue on Hitler's orders. The records at Dollershiem were destroyed by the Nazis after the Anschluss. If nothing else, there was nagging uncertainty.

The lawyer's case was built on letter correspondance. If Frank actually presented facts to verify a Jewish grandfather as detailed in his memoir, then surely Hitler would have demanded to see the evidence. If Preadovic's research is correct, and it's been cited by authors far greater than I, then Frank would have been unable to produce such documents. Without that evidence, it's hard to believe the case was ever presented as Hans Frank detailed from a Nuremberg prison. Certainly Hitler was dogged by uncertainty. With so much riding on Aryan purity and given a lack of documented Aryan pedigree, why wouldn't he? But explanations for the Hilter phenomena built on the premise of the self-hating Jew seem far fetched indeed.

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