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Sturmtruppen
07-17-2005, 11:46 PM
who donīt knows them?.
http://www.101airborneww2.com/
http://www.militarystencils.com/images/SpecialtyDecals/Army/101st%20Airborne.JPG
put any info you have about them
PzKpfw VI Tiger
07-18-2005, 06:23 PM
who donīt knows them?.
http://www.101airborneww2.com/
http://www.militarystencils.com/images/SpecialtyDecals/Army/101st%20Airborne.JPG
put any info you have about them
Good question Erwin, I bet everyone on this site knows something about the 101 Airbourne Division
Sturmtruppen
07-18-2005, 06:25 PM
Good question Erwin, I bet everyone on this site knows something about the 101 Airbourne Division
bluffcove,what is the 101st airborne division? :lol:
PzKpfw VI Tiger
07-18-2005, 06:37 PM
Good question Erwin, I bet everyone on this site knows something about the 101 Airbourne Division
bluffcove,what is the 101st airborne division? :lol:
LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:
Bluffcove
07-18-2005, 07:16 PM
The 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) is formed of four brigade combat teams plus Division Artillery, Division Support Command, the 101st Aviation Brigade, 159th Aviation Brigade, 101st Corps Support Group and several separate commands.
That the sort of thing you are looking for then? - oh and I wrote that site so I dont need to reference it!
Sturmtruppen
07-18-2005, 07:17 PM
The 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) is formed of four brigade combat teams plus Division Artillery, Division Support Command, the 101st Aviation Brigade, 159th Aviation Brigade, 101st Corps Support Group and several separate commands.
That the sort of thing you are looking for then? - oh and I wrote that site so I dont need to reference it!
just kiddin' bluff,youīre my friend sergeant major :wink:
Sturmtruppen
07-18-2005, 07:25 PM
oh and I wrote that site so I dont need to reference it!
:shock: ,you can write?? :lol:
just kidding again :wink:
temujin77
07-19-2005, 12:51 PM
Everyone knows of the 101st Airborne, but I think a more critical question is most people forget that there's more to 101st Airborne Division than 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, and there's more to the 506th PIR than Easy Company :) Thanks to Ambrose, Hanks, and Spielberg, everyone knows Dick Winters' company, but also thanks to the same folks, a lot of people I spoke to seems to forget there were other airborne men in the 101st outside of the 506th! A good place to start, as I always refer them, is the book "Currahee!" ( http://ww2db.com/read.php?read_id=19 ), which is reviewed by my colleague at that link. It's an excellent book consisted of memoirs of an A Company man.
It's ironic that while Ambrose's book and Hanks/Spielberg's miniseries brought the PIR's history to the mainstream, uninformed viewers (particularly those who aren't into history as much as us) think Easy Company men were the only paratroopers in the European theater :lol:
LargeBrew
07-20-2005, 12:26 AM
101 Airbourne were they second or third in on D Day after the Ox & Bucks
temujin77
07-20-2005, 09:14 AM
101 Airbourne were they second or third in on D Day after the Ox & Bucks
I don't know the actual time-count of "who touched down in France first" the night before D-Day, but three airborne units were sent behind enemy lines the night before the invasion:
101st American Airborne Division
82nd American Airborne Division
6th British Airborne Division (containing 1st Battalion troops of Ox & Bucks)
With the mess going on that night, I don't think anyone knows who landed first. One thing's for sure: most of them didn't land where they were supposed to :)
Firefly
07-21-2005, 03:52 AM
Actually the first allied Airborne to go into action was the OX and Bucks, who also sufferred the 1st death of D-Day, Lt Den Brotheridge. While the UK Airborne mainly achieved their aims, the US drop was woefull, many aircraft dropped too fast scattering Paras over a wide range. Although in some ways this did help sow confusion among the Germans.
A nice little Brit site is here:
http://www.normandiememoire.com/NM60Anglais/2_histo3/histo3_p8_gb.htm
temujin77
07-21-2005, 10:35 AM
Actually the first allied Airborne to go into action was the OX and Bucks, who also sufferred the 1st death of D-Day, Lt Den Brotheridge. While the UK Airborne mainly achieved their aims, the US drop was woefull, many aircraft dropped too fast scattering Paras over a wide range. Although in some ways this did help sow confusion among the Germans.
A nice little Brit site is here:
http://www.normandiememoire.com/NM60Anglais/2_histo3/histo3_p8_gb.htm
Thanks! I didn't know Ox and Bucks were first. You learn something new every day! :D
The US drops were horrific because the pilots were so green. They, understandably, just want to fly in, make the drop, and get their butts out of the flak zone. Unfortunately that meant the paratroopers were scattered all over the place, some didn't even get a chance to have their chutes open fully before they landed...
Cactus
07-21-2005, 04:02 PM
Good question Erwin, I bet everyone on this site knows something about the 101 Airbourne Division
bluffcove,what is the 101st airborne division? :lol:
LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:
Weren't they the infamous cooks of ww2? I heard they made a mean pork and beans
2nd of foot
07-21-2005, 06:26 PM
In defence of the pilots, their route I believe was out to the west then in over the Cherbourg peninsula. So they had a long approach with a lot of time spent over land in enemy air space before dropping the troops.
Caliber
07-24-2005, 01:09 AM
never heard of em. new squad?
:p
Firefly
07-24-2005, 06:37 AM
In defence of the pilots, their route I believe was out to the west then in over the Cherbourg peninsula. So they had a long approach with a lot of time spent over land in enemy air space before dropping the troops.
This is true, for the majority of them it was their first operation and must have been very daunting.
Sturmtruppen
07-24-2005, 03:50 PM
never heard of em. new squad?
:p
:lol: ,maybe the name of a new drink or pizza?
Hosenfield
07-29-2005, 05:21 PM
easy company under the command of capt. dick winters won the second world war.
Hanz Lutz
07-30-2005, 04:38 AM
Win in Band of Brothers . :lol: :lol:
Firefly
07-30-2005, 06:35 AM
easy company under the command of capt. dick winters won the second world war.
yup, they sure did, its amazing what 150 well trained guys could do....
Hanz Lutz
07-30-2005, 12:11 PM
Won the war :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hosenfield
07-31-2005, 04:08 PM
for me, band of brothers rocked from episodes 1-4. then it started to go downhill slowly.
the best scene is the reenactment of the battle of bloody gulch, with the panzergrenadier attack.
motor boat noises
11-13-2005, 03:04 PM
The thought of the hundred and first went through hell in back in the battle of the bulge and i cant belive that easy held of the constant bombardment of the german troops in the village of foy and they still pulled it off, and the german troops even outnumberd the 506th
and they just attacked one division at a time, when first of all the germans could have attacked the 506th and easy company at the same time in which they didnt. no offense to the 101st, but those could have been there final days. :(
motor boat noises
11-13-2005, 03:06 PM
for me, band of brothers rocked from episodes 1-4. then it started to go downhill slowly.
the best scene is the reenactment of the battle of bloody gulch, with the panzergrenadier attack. true i totally agree with you in that sense
Hanz Lutz
11-15-2005, 08:56 AM
Paratroopers destroy german army allone,brave mans. :D
FluffyBunnyGB
11-15-2005, 09:21 AM
Having worked with both the 82nd and 101st, I have to say that the present day US Airborne are generally a nice bunch of guys, with a proud history.
Got their arses kicked on PURPLE STAR though, by me, 10th Mountain Div & the Gurkhas :D
bigsargee6
04-21-2006, 11:50 AM
The Airborne was an all volunteer unit. Most of them read a LIFE article saying 'IF YOU WANT TO JOIN THE BEST, JOIN THE PARATROOPERS." :mrgreen: So, most of them jonied. Joe Toye, Malarkey, Richard Winters, George Luz, justto name a few. 1942-1944 they trained to kill krauts. They always had fights. Pretty soon, they start to look like this guy. :oops: After they entered England in 1944, they had some more training with Captain Soble. So, after June 4, 1944, they were on their way to Normandy, to the biggest offensive ever known to man. I am getting tired of typing, you guys go on.
Firefly
04-21-2006, 12:29 PM
I thought the Soviets Op Bagration was the biggest offensive known to man, or possibly Barbarossa?
How many of the division’s members in WW2 received Medal of Honor? I know of Lt. Col. Cole and Pfc. Mann. Are there any others?
*COLE, ROBERT G.
Rank and organization: Lieutenant Colonel, U.S. Army, 101st Airborne Division. Place and date: Near Carentan, France, 11 June 1944. Entered service at: San Antonio, Tex. Birth: Fort Sam Houston, Tex. G.O. No.: 79, 4 October 1944. Citation: For gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his own life, above and beyond the call of duty on 11 June 1944, in France. Lt. Col. Cole was personally leading his battalion in forcing the last 4 bridges on the road to Carentan when his entire unit was suddenly pinned to the ground by intense and withering enemy rifle, machinegun, mortar, and artillery fire placed upon them from well-prepared and heavily fortified positions within 150 yards of the foremost elements. After the devastating and unceasing enemy fire had for over 1 hour prevented any move and inflicted numerous casualties, Lt. Col. Cole, observing this almost hopeless situation, courageously issued orders to assault the enemy positions with fixed bayonets. With utter disregard for his own safety and completely ignoring the enemy fire, he rose to his feet in front of his battalion and with drawn pistol shouted to his men to follow him in the assault. Catching up a fallen man's rifle and bayonet, he charged on and led the remnants of his battalion across the bullet-swept open ground and into the enemy position. His heroic and valiant action in so inspiring his men resulted in the complete establishment of our bridgehead across the Douve River. The cool fearlessness, personal bravery, and outstanding leadership displayed by Lt. Col. Cole reflect great credit upon himself and are worthy of the highest praise in the military service.
*MANN, JOE E.
Rank and organization: Private First Class, U.S. Army, Company H, 502d Parachute Infantry, 101st Airborne Division. Place and date: Best, Holland, 18 September 1944. Entered service at: Seattle, Wash. Birth: Rearden, Wash. G.O. No.: 73, 30 August 1945. Citation: He distinguished himself by conspicuous gallantry above and beyond the call of duty. On 18 September 1944, in the vicinity of Best., Holland, his platoon, attempting to seize the bridge across the Wilhelmina Canal, was surrounded and isolated by an enemy force greatly superior in personnel and firepower. Acting as lead scout, Pfc. Mann boldly crept to within rocket-launcher range of an enemy artillery position and, in the face of heavy enemy fire, destroyed an 88mm. gun and an ammunition dump. Completely disregarding the great danger involved, he remained in his exposed position, and, with his M-1 rifle, killed the enemy one by one until he was wounded 4 times. Taken to a covered position, he insisted on returning to a forward position to stand guard during the night. On the following morning the enemy launched a concerted attack and advanced to within a few yards of the position, throwing hand grenades as they approached. One of these landed within a few feet of Pfc. Mann. Unable to raise his arms, which were bandaged to his body, he yelled "grenade" and threw his body over the grenade, and as it exploded, died. His outstanding gallantry above and beyond the call of duty and his magnificent conduct were an everlasting inspiration to his comrades for whom he gave his life.
They aren't more.
2 in ww2 and 20 in Vietnam.
http://www.campbell.army.mil/moh.htm
Nickdfresh
07-08-2006, 05:07 PM
I know, to some extent, Stephen Ambrose has been discredited as a source due to his nasty habit of delegating to his son, and others, writing and interview responsiblities and that this has resulted plagiarism in several works. He also has a tendency to get basic elementary facts wrong (such as once stating at the end of "Citizen Soldiers" that a former American soldier wrote him a letter to "correct" him of his "error" stating that the German Panther tanks where armed with 75mm guns instead of the infamous 88mm. Had he checked, Ambrose could easily have found that he was initially correct and that the Panther, with only a few exceptions, was indeed armed with a high velocity 75mm gun instead of accepting the word of some crank).
But he states unequivocally that certain elements of the 101st Airborne such as E-company rivaled today's smaller US Special Operations units as far as quality of personnel and fighting ability. Even the Delta Force.
Gregory
12-17-2006, 07:25 AM
I know, to some extent, Stephen Ambrose has been discredited as a source due to his nasty habit of delegating to his son, and others, writing and interview responsiblities and that this has resulted plagiarism in several works. He also has a tendency to get basic elementary facts wrong (such as once stating at the end of "Citizen Soldiers" that a former American soldier wrote him a letter to "correct" him of his "error" stating that the German Panther tanks where armed with 75mm guns instead of the infamous 88mm. Had he checked, Ambrose could easily have found that he was initially correct and that the Panther, with only a few exceptions, was indeed armed with a high velocity 75mm gun instead of accepting the word of some crank).
Hello :D
No ideal historic publicists and there is lack of ideal historic books as well. I am also historic publicist and may tell that it is impossible to write perfect historic text to satisfy all the readers and to avoid various imperfections. Stephen E. Ambrose wrote also incorrect data about Operation Varsity in his "Citizen Soldiers" but on the other hand who writes better about the ETO? Alexander McKee for instance? Compare historic culture of both these men. For McKee north-west Europe was liberated by the British Army with the US Army in the far background and doing almost nothing. Ambrose in his work is able to honor all Allied nations from the ETO - from the greatests to all the smallests. And this is Ambrose's value and class unknown for many others.
Best regards :cool:
Greg
town3173
01-11-2007, 09:15 AM
Hi, I'm new to the site so nothing too controversial. It may be the case that some people believe Easy Company won WW11 on their own but if this is the case these are the people who would have know nothing about the War prior to Band of Brothers. The quality part of B of B is how personal it makes the war. The fact that it appeals to a wider audience than would normally watch a War series ensures all the guy's involved will be remembered by more than the few of us with a genuine interest in the period. Biased it maybe but worthwhile it certainly is. And at the end of the day Winters & his men are worthy of acknowledgement; The fact others are equally worthy but have missed out should not mean Easy also get forgotten. Rob
VonWeyer
01-11-2007, 10:44 AM
Hollywood has definately given Easy Company a "head start".
GermanSoldier
01-11-2007, 03:48 PM
The 101st Airborne had a series on TV witch I watched all of the episodes. I also read the book. They fought with pride no matter what. I thought it was interesting in the battles they had to win. I don't know if you know this but they were sent to Japan after Europe, but it was only the people you didn't get to go home.
VonWeyer
01-11-2007, 04:03 PM
So true GermanSoldier.
Sgt.Hartsock
01-23-2007, 02:22 PM
They are probally the best ww2 paratroopers around watch band of brothers and then you'll understand a bit more i only know them from that and brothers in arms
32Bravo
01-24-2007, 12:25 PM
2 Para didn't earn the nickname "The Red Devils" in North Africa for nothing.
Johnny Frost lead a compnay of them on the Bruneval Raid, and he with a company of them were the only troops to reach Arnhem Bridge. Not that I'm saying that they were the best, but equal to any. The German paras defending Monte Casino were, in my opinion, second to none. :cool:
32Bravo
01-25-2007, 07:09 AM
Forgive me, German Soldier. To which book are you referring?
Sgt Sunder
01-29-2007, 03:01 AM
I was in the 101st for about 1/2 my army time. Fort Campbell has a nice Museum and the site follows.
http://www.campbell.army.mil/pratt/index.htm
The Brits 6th did a fine job on D day of course. Caen became another deal entirely.
101st was the best unit I was a part of while I served but was no longer an airborne division when I was with them but Air Assault.
Did my share of sheparding old vets around post as a young knuckle head did not learn enough. The old vets always seemed amused bemused what we thought were problems. Took time walking in france to learn why. ;)
GermanSoldier
01-29-2007, 10:14 AM
Forgive me, German Soldier. To which book are you referring?
Band of Brothers
E Company, 506th Regiment, 101st Airborne
From Normandy to Hitler's Eagle's Nest
Author Stephen E. AMBROSE
32Bravo
01-29-2007, 12:40 PM
Thank you. I have a copy, but haven't gotten around to reading it as yet.
ken-the-artist
03-30-2007, 11:16 PM
I agree with all of you. BoB was a great series but what about the other companies? So this summer I'm making a short film and possibly a short series of D Company in the 101st. Going up the companies. :p
Elementarer Soldat
04-15-2007, 07:45 PM
That must be an impossibility even if you know nothing about WWII,you would know of them from all the movies,books,video games and televisions series based off there story.
Croat
05-22-2007, 04:33 AM
tehy were one of the best airborne division, and they had one of the best captains-Dick Winters
oreminer
06-27-2007, 11:09 AM
YEAH!!!!!!!!
101st airborne got in some of the worst situation on this earth and they always made it out alive
Nickdfresh
06-28-2007, 05:14 PM
Actually the first allied Airborne to go into action was the OX and Bucks, who also sufferred the 1st death of D-Day, Lt Den Brotheridge. While the UK Airborne mainly achieved their aims, the US drop was woefull, many aircraft dropped too fast scattering Paras over a wide range. Although in some ways this did help sow confusion among the Germans.
A nice little Brit site is here:
http://www.normandiememoire.com/NM60Anglais/2_histo3/histo3_p8_gb.htm
The drops was indeed chaotic. But one cannot underestimate how effective this was in blunting the German counterattack. I believe they vastly overestimated the numbers of airborne troopers on the ground and this caused some temporary paralysis in the high commands reaction to the situation...
Nickdfresh
06-28-2007, 05:17 PM
Ha! I just realized this thread is two years old! :D
In any case, I bet a lot of people don't know that the 101st is no longer an airborne division, but is now riding choppers into battle as an "air assault" division...
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