The pianist

[Commando Jordovski]

I recently watched the Pianist and it really suprised me how aweful the Germans were to the Jewish,
I have to give the movie 5 stars for it.
Has anyone else seen this movie ?


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[Firefly]

This is an excellent movie and should be compulsory viewing at High School for all those Nazi loving apologists.

The Nazis were evil.......

[Tsolias]

A great movie!
I think it was a true story too.

[StalingradK]

I recently watched the Pianist and it really suprised me how aweful the Germans were to the Jewish,
I have to give the movie 5 stars for it.
Has anyone else seen this movie ?


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That makes me worried... Please tell me you've heard of something called the Holocaust in whish 6 Million Jews died by the blood hand of the SS Nazis

[Hanz Lutz]

I recently watched the Pianist and it really suprised me how aweful the Germans were to the Jewish,
I have to give the movie 5 stars for it.
Has anyone else seen this movie ?


Edited by S.A.M.: Included Poll, please vote.

That makes me worried... Please tell me you've heard of something called the Holocaust in whish 6 Million Jews died by the blood hand of the SS Nazis

I heard that's is very sad SS thay are monsters.

[Cactus]

I thought it was a very good film.

[StalingradK]

It was an awesome movie, one of the best films on the Holocaust, I would put it up there with Schindler's List

[Hanz Lutz]

Schindler's List I start to watch this movie but I not finishim ,please tell me how he finich.

[StalingradK]

Where did you leave off?

[Hanz Lutz]

dont remember .

[StalingradK]

That's not cool, watch it again! It's a movie that has a lot going on in it and would take me forever to post :?

[Hanz Lutz]

Ok i watch movie agian.

[CrossBones]

In my opinion... a great film .

I liked

[Commando Jordovski]

I recently watched the Pianist and it really suprised me how aweful the Germans were to the Jewish,
I have to give the movie 5 stars for it.
Has anyone else seen this movie ?


Edited by S.A.M.: Included Poll, please vote.

That makes me worried... Please tell me you've heard of something called the Holocaust in whish 6 Million Jews died by the blood hand of the SS Nazis

Of course i know the holocause mate, but some things in the movie, like picking up the old disabled polish man in the Wheelchair when he wouldn't stand up and they just simply picked him up and through him off the balcony....thats quite barbaric.

[adleos]

but some things in the movie, like picking up the old disabled polish man in the Wheelchair when he wouldn't stand up and they just simply picked him up and through him off the balcony....thats quite barbaric.

Yeah, that's one of those things which make you think a lot...
I recommend reading the book on which the film is based: The Pianist: The Extraordinary True Story of One Man's Survival in Warsaw, 1939-1945 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312311354/qid=1123454480/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-6836216-1338248?v=glance&s=books&n=507846) by Mr. Szpilman.




By the way, I find these Forums extremely cool and interesting. :wink:

[Tsolias]

Schindler's List I start to watch this movie but I not finishim ,please tell me how he finich.

They get married. :shock:

[Commando Jordovski]

Mr Zsilpan the pianist guy wrote a autobio on his life ?!?!?!
Well i wouldn't mind reading that .

[adleos]

Mr Zsilpan the pianist guy wrote a autobio on his life ?!?!?!
Well i wouldn't mind reading that .

Just a Ghetto period bio: since the nazis conquer Warsaw until when the Red Army reconquers Warsaw.

[FW-190 Pilot]

powerful scene to capture the evilness of nazi german

[Floyd08]

pianist is every nice and interesting movie it about a jewish pianist survive in the brutal german nazi this is a historical movie i 100 percent
rating this movie :)

[Piotr]

Has anybody made a movie yet about 6 million Polish people murdered by Nazis from 1939 through 1945? No?
How about 1.2 million Polish people murdered by Soviets from 1945 through 1946? No? Nobody? hmm... maybe somebody should. Soon.

[jnd2089]

The part of the film that i like is that SS Captain towards the end.... who found him in hiding yet didnt do anything about it apart from give food and his coat... Just shows that not ALL Germans were bad in the war...

[Kovalski]

The german officer wasn't a SS-man. If he was, Spilmann wouldn't survive the war. His name was Wilm Hosenfeld (captain of Wehrmacht). He was captured by Russians on 17th of January 1945 near Warsaw. Because Soviets suspected him being a intelligence officer, they tortured him and finally accused of war crimes. Sentenced to death he was sent to concentration camp where he died due to hard conditions. During war he helped many people. Some of them testified at his trial, proved evidence of his innocense and assured the judge that Hosenfeld really saved their lives (just like Spilmann's). After amnesty capital punishment had been changed to 25 years of Gulag.

[Digger]

I only saw the last 30 minutes of this movie and it impressed me greatly. Yes perhaps one day someone will make a movie of the slaughter of Poles, Ukranians, Slavs etc. It all depends if there is money to be made in such projects.

Regards Digger

[Sergeant Dorr]

I saw this movie in my Russian History Class I give this movie 5 stars 5 stars for the impressive storyline and how this one polish guy (i could never remember or pronunce his name) who survied the slaughter of the jewish population of Warsaw.

[Koen]

A 'must have in your collection' movie !

It's a good movie!
It's a very good WWII movie!
It's realistic!
It gives you a bad feeling when you watched it!

More movies like this one plz....

[1PUK]

The german officer wasn't a SS-man. If he was, Spilmann wouldn't survive the war. His name was Wilm Hosenfeld (captain of Wehrmacht). He was captured by Russians on 17th of January 1945 near Warsaw. Because Soviets suspected him being a intelligence officer, they tortured him and finally accused of war crimes. Sentenced to death he was sent to concentration camp where he died due to hard conditions. During war he helped many people. Some of them testified at his trial, proved evidence of his innocense and assured the judge that Hosenfeld really saved their lives (just like Spilmann's). After amnesty capital punishment had been changed to 25 years of Gulag.

Nice to read about someone’s good deeds, whichever side they were on. I don’t know much about him but what has been written here but it seems to me like his ending was shameful.

[Chevan]

The german officer wasn't a SS-man. If he was, Spilmann wouldn't survive the war. His name was Wilm Hosenfeld (captain of Wehrmacht). He was captured by Russians on 17th of January 1945 near Warsaw. Because Soviets suspected him being a intelligence officer, they tortured him and finally accused of war crimes. Sentenced to death he was sent to concentration camp where he died due to hard conditions. During war he helped many people. Some of them testified at his trial, proved evidence of his innocense and assured the judge that Hosenfeld really saved their lives (just like Spilmann's). After amnesty capital punishment had been changed to 25 years of Gulag.
From what comesyour love at the german captain of Wermaht mate?
Do you forget as those wermaht has "pacificated" the Warsaw uprising in the 1944?Whan was killed about 200 000 mostly of civils?
The portraed even in this film tells about Jewish Warsaw Getto uprising in 1943 - but almost nothing about real bloody uprising of 1944.

[Chevan]

This film show the main hero Jew as a helpless coward who just look as his mates perished in Germans infamous terror. He did nothing coz he was a tupical coward .
It sad fact the ill imagination of Polanski has not noticed the other Jews who boldly fight with Germans in the Red Army or among the Allias.
For instance i know a few who have been awarded the highest Soviet Award- the Hero of Soviet Union. Many of them was awarded posthumously.All of them was the very bold and motivated- the best mens of their Jewish people.
The director-pedofil Roman Polanski, who was forced run away from USA to the France , being charged for the sex with teenager, chosed the cowar for his film not accidentally.The Pianist is a tupical example of man who calmly watched as their relatives perished.
He is moral degenerated man, with pretends for "greatness".
This film is a shit IMO.

[Kovalski]

From what comesyour love at the german captain of Wermaht mate?
Do you forget as those wermaht has "pacificated" the Warsaw uprising in the 1944?Whan was killed about 200 000 mostly of civils?
The portraed even in this film tells about Jewish Warsaw Getto uprising in 1943 - but almost nothing about real bloody uprising of 1944.
What love Chevan? :)

[Kovalski]

This film show the main hero Jew as a helpless coward who just look as his mates perished in Germans infamous terror. He did nothing coz he was a tupical coward .
It sad fact the ill imagination of Polanski has not noticed the other Jews who boldly fight with Germans in the Red Army or among the Allias.
For instance i know a few who have been awarded the highest Soviet Award- the Hero of Soviet Union. Many of them was awarded posthumously.All of them was the very bold and motivated- the best mens of their Jewish people.
The director-pedofil Roman Polanski, who was forced run away from USA to the France , being charged for the sex with teenager, chosed the cowar for his film not accidentally.The Pianist is a tupical example of man who calmly watched as their relatives perished.
He is moral degenerated man, with pretends for "greatness".
This film is a shit IMO.

As far as I remember this movie is about Spillmann, not all Jews.

And sorry to hear that you mix personal stuff and art.

Somebody should warn Polanski that Mr Chevan is disappointed.

[Chevan]

What love Chevan? :)

Chevan "love" Kovalski:)
Not german oficers...

[Chevan]

As far as I remember this movie is about Spillmann, not all Jews.

This film about jews , its fate and hard life in Warsaw . i.e this is all about Holocaust .
The jewish pianist Wladyslaw Szpilman hided on the flats while other jews around him tryed to fight for his life.
He has survived the terror coz ONLY he hided himself when the other jews try to fight for their life.
According the idea of this film he "survived just to tell about what he saw" He saw the terror in Getto, mass executions of the peoples.
But inevitably has arised the other aspect- why a lot of peoples like Szpilman simply hided its skin when other jews desperatelly fight with Germans and perished ?
The answer is obvious- coz they were pitiful cowards.And some of them even colloborated with Nazy ( for instance the Jewish police in Getto)
This "genious pianist" simply last bastard who did nothing whan his family was sended in a camp to be executed.
And Polanski is idiot to make him a main hero of film.

And sorry to hear that you mix personal stuff and art.

This is very close concepts indeed.
You could not fully understand the master when you know nothing about him.

Somebody should warn Polanski that Mr Chevan is disappointed.

Oh do not worry mate.
The US court has already warned him about his "activity" in USA.
He could be sentenced for the 50 years in prison for his sexual solicitations
Polanski was initially charged with rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance (methaqualone) to a minor, but these charges were dismissed under the terms of his plea bargain, and he pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor

Not bad for the "genious" film-director :)

[32Bravo]

Oh, Come on, Chevan. Not eveybody is a fighter.

The fact that he was a pianist implies he was 'Arty-farty' type, one of the 'darlings' (and I don't necessarily mean homsexual).

So what if he was scared fartless,wouldn't we all be - His survival was a good thing, he exposed a lot of atrocity.

Has a comparrison, John Wayne and Errol Flynn, neither of whom went to war, did much for the war effort at home by portraying patriotism and the true American Hero. Not a bad thing (yes, I know that Flynn has been rumoured as having had Nazi sympathies, but that was not the public image).

Everyone has their role to play one way or another.

By the way - Great film!

[Chevan]

Oh, Come on, Chevan. Not eveybody is a fighter.

The fact that he was a pianist implies he was 'Arty-farty' type, one of the 'darlings' (and I don't necessarily mean homsexual).

So what if he was scared fartless,wouldn't we all be - His survival was a good thing, he exposed a lot of atrocity.

Well i do understand what you mean.
Sorry my friend but the WW2 was not a simple boxing ring ...especially for the Jews...especially in Poland.
This was a real battle for annihilation for them.
When somebody come at you home and began to kill you perents, then your wife and children ON THE YOUR OWN EYES - will you hide coz you are "Arty-farty" type?
This is not a type of behaviour - this is idiocy. Your instinct of self-preservation should force you to protect your family by all possible methods. Not becous you are "fighter" but coz there are your children.
So this disgusting coward Szpilman who had a hands and could fight as other people - did nothing, he simply "tryed to survive".
While the best represetives of jewish peoples fought with Nazy in Allies/ soviet army or in the undergroun- the peoples like Szpilman saved their skin, be scared for his ugly life.
While the best peoples perished fighting with Nazy till the death - the other "great pianist" succesfully survived the war.

Has a comparrison, John Wayne and Errol Flynn, neither of whom went to war, did much for the war effort at home by portraying patriotism and the true American Hero. Not a bad thing (yes, I know that Flynn has been rumoured as having had Nazi sympathies, but that was not the public image).

Everyone has their role to play one way or another.

In USSR it was a soviet spokesman- propogandist the Ilia Erenburg the jewish origin who wrote the famouse "Kill the German" aslo did much for the war incresing the Soviet patriortism and ( especially!!) rising the fierce Anti-german hate among the Russian peoples.
The historians nowadays argue - was his role positive in influence for the ability of Soviet soldiers to fight - or negative - coz as inevitably increase the nasty things commited by the Soviet soldiers in Germany?
But Ilia Erenburg was at least HONEST- he actually fight for his people as he could.
He OPENLY hated Germnas ( and from his point he was probably right).
But the Szpilman ( Pianist) is not capable even for a hate.
During all the film he just hade, he calmly look at the atrocities and EVEN do not think to do something .
Do you understand it . He did nothing not becouse he couldn't- but coz he did not wish.
This si a great shame of this film.
Antother bad think is the God german officer - who feeded Szpilman for his personal entertainment, enjoy the music , but never forgot to call Szpilman as a "Jew".
He openly despised Szpilman, but he like to be a good:)
Obviously he was not againts the "pacification" Warsaw Getto in 1943 as well as he was not agains the pacification Warsaw uprising next year- but he like the music and ...Szpilman.
It is so touching:)

The moral of the film is- the Szpilman was a true hero ( he hided all the war and saved its skin ) the Wilm Hosenfeld was also a pretty good, but damn the evils Russian sended him in concentration camp.
This is sad fact that Roman Polansky was never in Kiev in Babij Jar or in the Warsaw Getto or in other "places" where the good germans officers killed the jews:)
THis would be better lesson for him:)

[32Bravo]

You seem to have broadened the horizon, somewhat. :)

Also, you are very harsh. Pointless you leading a 'hearts and Minds' op. :)

Some people just don't have what comes instinctively to others. Many of the Jews were beaten and seperated from their families, without putting up much, if any, resistance. Spielman tells a story which gives us more insight into the situation, which helps prevent it happening again.

By the way, I have a friend whose surname is Babij (pronounced; Babee to we English speakers), born of Ukrainian immigrants from Kiev. What's the significance of the name - I'm interested.

P.S. I think the moral of the film was that a lot of people were murdered by the Nazis.

[Kovalski]

This is sad fact that Roman Polansky was never in Kiev in Babij Jar or in the Warsaw Getto or in other "places" where the good germans officers killed the jews:)
THis would be better lesson for him:)

Chevan, you're my favorite ignoramus ;)

Polanski manage to escape the Krakow Ghetto on a day of its liquidation.

But why should you even check somebody biography when you already judged him???

[Chevan]

You seem to have broadened the horizon, somewhat. :)

Well the everything is changing my friend:)


Also, you are very harsh. Pointless you leading a 'hearts and Minds' op. :)

Some people just don't have what comes instinctively to others. Many of the Jews were beaten and seperated from their families, without putting up much, if any, resistance. Spielman tells a story which gives us more insight into the situation, which helps prevent it happening again.

Probably i/m harsh, however this film not TV Soap opera - but the film about fate of jews in the ww2.
So this is very character that some of jews just told a story when they succesfully survived while the REST of thier relatives died.
Is not no strange for you to make the hero of film the man who covered themself and hided all the war?
Especialy if there is a lot of other jews who fought in this war desperatevely.
Even the woman and children.
The problem of this film is not that the Szpilman was a witness of the tragedy- but that he did nothing to help his friends during the uprising.He just watch as the GErmans killed them each.
So from pure moral point to make the hero of film the coward - is not a good idia.
COz people could think that the Szpilman was a "good jew". Indeed he was just a tupical example of that Nazy called the "low race". The member of docile herd that goes to he death.
This is a stoopid point coz there were a lot of other jews who fought- for instance there is a list of Jew-the Hero of USSR
http://www.sem40.ru/famous2/f32.shtml
Most of them perished in battle or in the underground.
Why no one of them would be hero for Polanski film?The answer could give us the Kovalski in next post;).

By the way, I have a friend whose surname is Babij (pronounced; Babee to we English speakers), born of Ukrainian immigrants from Kiev. What's the significance of the name - I'm interested.

P.S. I think the moral of the film was that a lot of people were murdered by the Nazis.

This is not a moral but sad fact my friend:)
The moral is somehting deeper - while one peoples try to fight for his life agains Nazy the other large group - colloborated with them or tryed to save their ugly life.
That's why the Nazy killed so much.

[Chevan]

Chevan, you're my favorite ignoramus ;)

i knew you are my lovely Wikipedia:) Therefore i do not worry to make a mistake - you always could correct me:)

Polanski manage to escape the Krakow Ghetto on a day of its liquidation.

But why should you even check somebody biography when you already judged him???
And could you enlighten us - why he so "succesfully" escaped fromt eh Getto?When rest several thousands died in here?
Was his behaviour the simular of behaviour his "hero- pianist" in Warsaw?
May be this is answer of what did inspire him to shot the film about this disgusting coward?

[32Bravo]

Have you read 'If This is a Man' by Primo Levi...what are your thoughts on his story?

How do you percieve the chap in the film 'Saving Private Ryan' when he could go to the aid of his friend entangled with a German soldier - but didn't - as he fights desperately for his life?
His friend died, as he trembled on the stairway.

In my experience, it's quite often the ones that one doesn't expect it from that are courageous fighters, and the ones one would expect it from are a disappointment.

[Chevan]

Have you read 'If This is a Man' by Primo Levi...what are your thoughts on his story?

No i have not read it. But i read the Ilia Erenburg stories about atrocities in Polish Getto.

How do you percieve the chap in the film 'Saving Private Ryan' when he could go to the aid of his friend entangled with a German soldier - but didn't - as he fights desperately for his life?
His friend died, as he trembled on the stairway.

But this man finally shoted that Germans bas...rd, right.
He finally has overcomed his fear. And he has become the soldier.
In this film everybody has carryed out its debt - they finally have won, althought many of them perished.
So this is a good movie, but the ugly pitiful story "pianists" is the story that teach how to look at death of your friends and survived while they perished.
And fa...ng happy end - he surrvived and has became the Great Pianists after the war:)What's a nice.
The coward that observed as his all of his friend went to death, he played for the GErmans officer ( that carry out its debt called him as "jew") for food:)
Sure he has the right to save his skin - but the Polansky is a ugly moral man who made the Szpilman as a "good hero" for his film.
It strange - why he did not shoted the film about colloborationists or who work for the Nazy in occuped states- they also saw a atrocities and may be they also disliked it, but they did nothing - coz they work for Germans ( as Szpilman who playd for food for one of Nazy:))?
Really this could be the Great idia for Polanski - the peoples simply tryed to survived and many of them have survived. While the other perished.
It seem this is a perfect scenarion for this "brilliant" pedofil-derector Polanski:)

In my experience, it's quite often the ones that one doesn't expect it from that are courageous fighters, and the ones one would expect it from are a disappointment.
I do not expect that everybody should fight and die for something , but to shote the film about coward that succesfully survived his relatives playng in piano- is something disgusting.

[Kovalski]

No i have not read it. But i read the Ilia Erenburg stories about atrocities in Polish Getto.

But this man finally shoted that Germans bas...rd, right.
He finally has overcomed his fear. And he has become the soldier.
In this film everybody has carryed out its debt - they finally have won, althought many of them perished.
So this is a good movie, but the ugly pitiful story "pianists" is the story that teach how to look at death of your friends and survived while they perished.
And fa...ng happy end - he surrvived and has became the Great Pianists after the war:)What's a nice.
The coward that observed as his all of his friend went to death, he played for the GErmans officer ( that carry out its debt called him as "jew") for food:)
Sure he has the right to save his skin - but the Polansky is a ugly moral man who made the Szpilman as a "good hero" for his film.
It strange - why he did not shoted the film about colloborationists or who work for the Nazy in occuped states- they also saw a atrocities and may be they also disliked it, but they did nothing - coz they work for Germans ( as Szpilman who playd for food for one of Nazy:))?
Really this could be the Great idia for Polanski - the peoples simply tryed to survived and many of them have survived. While the other perished.
It seem this is a perfect scenarion for this "brilliant" pedofil-derector Polanski:)

I do not expect that everybody should fight and die for something , but to shote the film about coward that succesfully survived his relatives playng in piano- is something disgusting.

What would you do if you were Szpilmann, Chevan?

Would you save your family?
I assume that you would try (no matter how low your chances would be, right?).

What if after that somebody asked you a question: why did you save your own family only?
Why didn't you save any others?

Why didn't you care about children, orphans and old?

Funny? I don't think so. I bet that at least one "Chevan" would ask you such question.

So, what would you do if you were Szpilmann?

And don't say "at least I would try".
Tell us exactly, what would you do?

[Koen]

but the Polansky is a ugly moral man who made the Szpilman as a "good hero" for his film

I think that the viewer has his own thoughts...the viewer will decide if 'the pianist' is or is not 'a good man', 'a hero'...

Polanski did not gave me the impression that he was forcing HIS ideas...but that he wanted to make us think...that he wants us to be confused...

I never got the idea that he was a good man...a good hero...

I didn't know what to think...what should I do if I were in that situation...?

What is a hero...? I bet that when we ask people to describe 'hero' we get all kind of different explanations...

[Kovalski]

I think that the viewer has his own thoughts...the viewer will decide if 'the pianist' is or is not 'a good man', 'a hero'...

Polanski did not gave me the impression that he was forcing HIS ideas...but that he wanted to make us think...that he wants us to be confused...

I never got the idea that he was a good man...a good hero...

I didn't know what to think...what should I do if I were in that situation...?

What is a hero...? I bet that when we ask people to describe 'hero' we get all kind of different explanations...

I absolutely agree with you Koen.

[Chevan]

What would you do if you were Szpilmann, Chevan?
........
And don't say "at least I would try".
Tell us exactly, what would you do?
Well for the first- i would try to enter in Polish Army in the in sep 1939.:)This is my civil duty, right.
The every man shoul defend its mothelannd , is it not?
Or may be you Kovalski would stay at home and coz you have to play on the piano?:)
Or may be the Poland was not a motheland for Szpilmann, worthwhile to fight and die for it ?

[32Bravo]

No i have not read it.

I would recommend it. He was in Auschwitz and he descibes his situation there.
The second volume, the name of which evades me, describes liberation and his journey home walking through a part of the Soviet Union, it took him several years to reach Italy.



But this man finally shoted that Germans bas...rd, right.
He finally has overcomed his fear. And he has become the soldier.

Chevan, I think you ought to try getting in touch with your female side, loosen up a little.

I remember the first time I was really scared. My arse-hole kept nipping; my stomach was churning; I kept breaking wind and had hardly any control over my bladder. It seemed as if I couldn't take a deep breath and I kept trying to gulp down air which I sometimes swallowed; my throat became constricted causing my voice to sound croaky, and I experienced a dull ache around the rims of my eyes which in effect gave me that pie-eyed look :shock: ....is it any wonder she said - No! :(

[Chevan]

I would recommend it. He was in Auschwitz and he descibes his situation there.
The second volume, the name of which evades me, describes liberation and his journey home walking through a part of the Soviet Union, it took him several years to reach Italy.

I will try to find it.
But i still do not understand - you mean that the situationin camps were so bad that suppressed the any will for resist?
I.m agree the Pianist was not in a camp, right?

Chevan, I think you ought to try getting in touch with your female side, loosen up a little.

You think i should decrease the tone:)OK

I remember the first time I was really scared. My arse-hole kept nipping; my stomach was churning; I kept breaking wind and had hardly any control over my bladder. It seemed as if I couldn't take a deep breath and I kept trying to gulp down air which I sometimes swallowed; my throat became constricted causing my voice to sound croaky, and I experienced a dull ache around the rims of my eyes which in effect gave me that pie-eyed look :shock: ....is it any wonder she said - No! :(
In my first time i wasn't scared- i was enough drunk for avoid . But vodka has playd a bad thing with my organism, my male functions did not work well. So i was disappointed :)

[32Bravo]

I will try to find it. I thought for an instant, there, you meant your female side. :)


But i still do not understand - you mean that the situationin camps were so bad that suppressed the any will for resist?
I.m agree the Pianist was not in a camp, right? No, I thought that as you are interested in the Holocaust you'd find this particular book interesting.


You think i should decrease the tone:)OK

We are who we are, and you have the disadvantage of having to communicate in a foreign language, which can sometimes cause subtlety to be lost in translation.


In my first time i wasn't scared- i was enough drunk for avoid . But vodka has playd a bad thing with my organism, my male functions did not work well. So i was disappointed :)
It wasn't my first sexual encounter - it didn't happen. :)

[Chevan]

I thought for an instant, there, you meant your female side. :)

No, I thought that as you are interested in the Holocaust you'd find this particular book interesting.

I/m very interested of Holocaust:);)
And i know where from to get the good right books about it:)

We are who we are, and you have the disadvantage of having to communicate in a foreign language, which can sometimes cause subtlety to be lost in translation.

Yes sometimes i feel disadvantage of thin understanding.
Its not easy to uderstand you if i get my english exercises only in forums, without speaking contact

It wasn't my first sexual encounter - it didn't happen. :)
But did it happen later?

[32Bravo]

Yes sometimes i feel disadvantage of thin understanding.


You are doing ok.


But did it happen later?

About fifteen years later, with her, that is. :)

I was about twelve at the time and she was ten years older. I met her again when I was in my mid-twenties. I had totally forgotten about her, but seeing her then, in a pub, the sense of challenge rose again - along with other things. :o

Moving on:

"Hate, however, is foreign to Levi, who also knows that "a socialism without prison camps'' is possible and desirable but that "a Nazism without concentration camps is unimaginable''. Without fascism, there would have been no literary Primo Levi. We should make the most of his works to help ensure fascism never happens again."

If This is a Man and the other book is The Truce.

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/60/024.html