Mein Kampf

[PzKpfw VI Tiger]

Translates to My Struggle. Book written by Adolf Hitler about his struggle to power in post WWI Germany. This book, in its original 1940's SS Edition is extremely rare and hard to find. Theyre have been several republishings of the book though from then till now.

[South African Military]

Is it not illegal? Well anyway, did anyone hear about that auction they were having? They where selling that book with Hitlers signature, somehow it came on the news, but I seem to have missed the point cause I dont know why.

[PzKpfw VI Tiger]

Is it not illegal? Well anyway, did anyone hear about that auction they were having? They where selling that book with Hitlers signature, somehow it came on the news, but I seem to have missed the point cause I dont know why.

why its on the news? it has Hitlers signature perhaps, a book like that could easily go for alot.

[Man of Stoat]

Is it not illegal? Well anyway, did anyone hear about that auction they were having? They where selling that book with Hitlers signature, somehow it came on the news, but I seem to have missed the point cause I dont know why.

Of course it's not illegal in most places - freedom of speech & all that (it might be prohibited in Germany though - Walther?):

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1593640064/qid=1119992864/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-9038498-6450832

Mein Kampf
Adolf Hitler

Our Price: £17.95 & eligible for Free UK delivery on orders over £19 with Super Saver Delivery. See details & conditions.

[Commando Jordovski]

Do people still sell the book "Mein Kampf" ?
I dont think a local library or bookstore would have german propoganda books....but then again i could be wrong.
I would most very much like to read a "mein kampf" version translated into english, it would be quite interesting.
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[Dani]

I remeber that I saw "Mein Kampf" in English (as a pdf file) a couple of months ago on a russian site (:D :D ).
Unfortunatelly I don't remember the url...

[Firefly]

I read this book years ago, ramblings of an idiot in my opinion.

[Commando Jordovski]

If there is a "Mein Kampf" in english i would think that the U.S or some organization have altered the text and book a bit.

[PzKpfw VI Tiger]

If there is a "Mein Kampf" in english i would think that the U.S or some organization have altered the text and book a bit.

Why? The United States Government has no authority to censor books, or any publication for that matter. It's unconstitioutional.

[Commando Jordovski]

I just wouldn't think the Americans or the common world we live in would let German propoganda written by hitler still exist.

[PzKpfw VI Tiger]

I just wouldn't think the Americans or the common world we live in would let German propoganda written by hitler still exist.

Well it isnt like Mein Kampf is still in print, whats out there now is out there and sooner or later there will be no copies of the book left

[Commando Jordovski]

Very true that, they are getting rarer every day practically.

[Cactus]

They have Mein Kampf in all the bookstores by me but I have yet to pick it up to read it as I've had no real push for it. I'll get it eventually but no it is perfectly legal here. :lol:

[Firefly]

I just wouldn't think the Americans or the common world we live in would let German propoganda written by hitler still exist.

Well it isnt like Mein Kampf is still in print, whats out there now is out there and sooner or later there will be no copies of the book left

They reprint it every few years or so. Its actually a very badly written rant on all the people that must have annoyed Der Fuhrer during his lifetime up until then. Ravings of a madman.......

[South African Military]

Ravings of a madman.......

intriguing :D

[Hosenfield]

i have it. its very boring, and has many irrelevant chapters. hitler repeats himself many times in the book and presents arguments with no proof or logic. however, there are parts where he has a point, but his whole racial theories have no foundation in science.

[Sturmtruppen]

i have it. its very boring, and has many irrelevant chapters. hitler repeats himself many times in the book and presents arguments with no proof or logic. however, there are parts where he has a point, but his whole racial theories have no foundation in science.
mate,most of books repeat irrelevant and boring arguments,but,it´s the cost of a book,you adquire the knowledgment of the 10% of a book when you read it,the rest is mindless bla bla bla.

[Man of Stoat]

i have it. its very boring, and has many irrelevant chapters. hitler repeats himself many times in the book and presents arguments with no proof or logic. however, there are parts where he has a point, but his whole racial theories have no foundation in science.

Just like "The ABC of Communism" then...

[Walther]

Is it not illegal? Well anyway, did anyone hear about that auction they were having? They where selling that book with Hitlers signature, somehow it came on the news, but I seem to have missed the point cause I dont know why.

Of course it's not illegal in most places - freedom of speech & all that (it might be prohibited in Germany though - Walther?):

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1593640064/qid=1119992864/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-9038498-6450832

Mein Kampf
Adolf Hitler

Our Price: £17.95 & eligible for Free UK delivery on orders over £19 with Super Saver Delivery. See details & conditions.

Sorry, I noticed this thread quite late. Possesion of Nazi propaganda is not illegal in Germany but public display in a glorifying way and sale is illegal (a fine or up to 3 years prison).
BTW, I'm looking for a German copy of this book for my poison cabinet. I sometimes get in to debates with, mostly American, Nazi apologists, who use quotes out of "Mein Kampf" and I can not check in how far they have been taken out of context, nor can I counterquote, e.g. showing how Hitler predicted and planned his murderous decisions.

Jan

[Commando Jordovski]

Well there are still Nazi Parties all around the world, of course not as big community as the 1930's but they read "Mein Kampf" like its the Nazi Bible.

[Hosenfield]

mein kampf should be renamed "Mein Bullshit"

[Firefly]

Well there are still Nazi Parties all around the world, of course not as big community as the 1930's but they read "Mein Kampf" like its the Nazi Bible.

What about this lot for starters:

http://www.nsm88.com/index2.html

[Commando Jordovski]

OMG, america has got an official nazi party website !!!!, this should be banned on the Internet dont you reckon Firefly, thats aweful !!!

I mean look what they said here in the following:: We co-operate and work with many like minded white nationalist groups such as the KKK (Ku Klux Klan), Aryan Skinheads, the Racial Nationalist Party of America and many others which are either Nazi or at least racially aware of our Aryan Heritage.

Firefly you should be careful buddy looking on these kind of sites because they look for people that help or support the nazi or communist websites.

[Commando Jordovski]

Firefly, nazi parties like that , that believe in killing blacks and helping KKK makes me SICK, dont you agree man ??

I mean what makes you think the world or USA would let that country go under the Swastika...especially thats its the most powerful country in the world...and the thing is, that on that website they are convinced that usa will be fascist in 2008 or sooner...ARGH it makes me angry

[Hosenfield]

Well, free speech is one of the great american rights.

no, america won't be facist by 2008. i haven't even seen any commercails on tv...

generally, american nazis are mid-western lower-class whites. they are usually poor and poorly educated, and they compensate this weakness with hate. Most of them are western europeon heritage, however.

so they give the excuse that they are master race when their contribution to science, business, medicine, or any profession that requries more then a middle-school degree is practically nil.

they hate mid-western blacks even though they are just as lazy as they are.

its really ridicious.

[Commando Jordovski]

Well, free speech is one of the great american rights.

no, america won't be facist by 2008. i haven't even seen any commercails on tv...

generally, american nazis are mid-western lower-class whites. they are usually poor and poorly educated, and they compensate this weakness with hate. Most of them are western europeon heritage, however.

so they give the excuse that they are master race when their contribution to science, business, medicine, or any profession that requries more then a middle-school degree is practically nil.

they hate mid-western blacks even though they are just as lazy as they are.

its really ridicious.

Indeed mate, you never cease to impress me.
besides the Jewish or Allies wouldn't let america become fascist.
These young little hitlers of today just like the thought of being nazi and killing black people.
That website should be illegal on the internet.

[Man of Stoat]

Why should the website be illegal? Freedom of speech and all that. And who regulates the Internet? Nobody! Just because you don't approve of it doesn't mean that it should be banned.

BTW, there's still a Communist party of the USA as well. Should that website be banned also, or do you have double-standards?

[Dani]

BTW, there's still a Communist party of the USA as well. Should that website be banned also, or do you have double-standards?

http://www.cpusa.org/

And this is no joke.

[Dani]

....and National Front from UK:
http://www.natfront.com/index.html

Edited: join with us and give the traitors that have led us into this quandary their worst nightmare!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Commando Jordovski]

Why should the website be illegal? Freedom of speech and all that. And who regulates the Internet? Nobody! Just because you don't approve of it doesn't mean that it should be banned.

BTW, there's still a Communist party of the USA as well. Should that website be banned also, or do you have double-standards?

Free freedom of speech , yes i agree, but it sounds like your backing the site up man of stoat, these people that make those websites are evil !

[Hosenfield]

the nazis and communist americans should team up and have a redneck barbeque.

[Commando Jordovski]

the nazis and communist americans should team up and have a redneck barbeque.

Throw a few shrimps on the barbie having a fancy dress up party, some come as hitlers, some as stalins and they all have their equal share of shrimp and sausage :lol: 8)

[Commando Jordovski]

I have recently read that the best selling book in switzland last month was Mein Kampf.
2 months ago the best selling book in France was Mein Kampf.

Is this just a high trend in neo fascim or just a high healthy trend in history.

[PzKpfw VI Tiger]

I have recently read that the best selling book in switzland last month was Mein Kampf.
2 months ago the best selling book in France was Mein Kampf.

Is this just a high trend in neo fascim or just a high healthy trend in history.

That's rather interesting, it could be a combination of neo nazism and a very high trend in history. :shock:

[Commando Jordovski]

I have recently read that the best selling book in switzland last month was Mein Kampf.
2 months ago the best selling book in France was Mein Kampf.

Is this just a high trend in neo fascim or just a high healthy trend in history.

That's rather interesting, it could be a combination of neo nazism and a very high trend in history. :shock:
Yeah you could be right mate, especially them middle european countries.

[PzKpfw VI Tiger]

I found a compressed file of the book online a while back. If anyone wants it, you can PM me with you're email address and I'll send it to you.

[Man of Stoat]

I have recently read that the best selling book in switzland last month was Mein Kampf.
2 months ago the best selling book in France was Mein Kampf.

Is this just a high trend in neo fascim or just a high healthy trend in history.

That's rather interesting, it could be a combination of neo nazism and a very high trend in history. :shock:

Or it could just be crap, seeing as Mein Kampf has been banned in Switzerland since 1996.

[Firefly]

Wouldnt it be easier to just give the link?

[Firefly]

I have recently read that the best selling book in switzland last month was Mein Kampf.
2 months ago the best selling book in France was Mein Kampf.

Is this just a high trend in neo fascim or just a high healthy trend in history.

That's rather interesting, it could be a combination of neo nazism and a very high trend in history. :shock:

Or it could just be crap, seeing as Mein Kampf has been banned in Switzerland since 1996.

There is a certain truth to it. The lists may be based on Amazons best selling lists, but not recently. In 1999 Mein kampf was No2 on the Amazon best selling list to Germany. I couldnt find any ref to Switzerland numbers though. Very interesting though.

[Man of Stoat]

http://www.tau.ac.il/Anti-Semitism/updates/i99020.html

Amazon Ceases Sales of "Mein Kampf" to Germany
The official policy of the two largest Internet booksellers, amazon.com and barnesandnoble.com, is to sell any book in print to any customer worldwide. This principle became the center of a controversy, when it became clear that customers could easily order and receive through amazon.com and barnesandnoble.com books that are banned in their country.
The Swiss organization Children of the Holocaust Action (Aktion Kinder des Holocaust, AkdH) pressed charges in Germany against these companies for distributing the anti-Semitic book "Geheimgesellschaften," by Jan van Helsing, in English. The book has been banned since 1996 in Switzerland a well as in Germany. In Germany, the Simon Wiesenthal Center complained to the authorities that amazon.com and barnesandnoble.com were offering and distributing Nazi publications such as the English version of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" and "The Protocols," as well tracts such as "White Power." by the deceased leader of the American Nazi Party, Lincoln Rockwell.

In view of the above, as well as the fact that (or despite the fact that) these books, especially "Mein Kampf," have become bestsellers on the German market, where they are illegal (in September 1999 "Mein Kampf" was listed by amazon.com as No.2 on its "uniquely best selling list" in Germany), amazon.com announced on 18 November 1999 that it would stop selling the book in Germany. Germany's justice minister welcomed Amazon's decision. Barnesandnoble.com, as well as another online retailer Borders Group In., were reviewing their policies, but had no immediate plans to restrict sales.

Sources: Freie Umschau Europa Online, 11 August 1999; Jewish Telegraphic Agency Online, 10 August 1999; Focus Online, 18 November 1999; "Washington Post," Online, 18 November 1999; Lycos News Online, 18 November 1999; Reuters Online, 19 November 1999.

[Man of Stoat]

firefly - could have been Amazon's bestseller lists, but he didn't say that.

Just checked amazon.fr's bestseller list - Mein Kampf is not even in the top 100.

[Dani]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4361733.stm

http://middle-east-info.org/gateway/antisemitism/

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Archive/Articles/2000/Hitler%20is%20a%20Youth%20Idol-%20Mein%20Kampf%20is%20a%20Bestseller

[Dani]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0395951054/103-1340093-8363067?v=glance

Quoted:
Mein Kampf, therefore, must be read as a reminder that evil can all too easily grow

[Dani]

In 1999 Mein kampf was No2 on the Amazon best selling list to Germany.

Quoted from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4361733.stm
Bavaria, the German state that holds the rights of Hitler's work, has fought to prevent publishing houses around the world from publishing it.

"Mein Kampf," or "My Struggle," is banned from sale in Germany, where it can only be found in libraries for research purposes.

[Firefly]

firefly - could have been Amazon's bestseller lists, but he didn't say that.

Just checked amazon.fr's bestseller list - Mein Kampf is not even in the top 100.

I agree. He didnt say that at all. And the references are all about 5-6 years old.

[PzKpfw VI Tiger]

I lost the link, my Mozilla firefox browser keeps reseting itself :evil: :evil:

[Firefly]

I lost the link, my Mozilla firefox browser keeps reseting itself :evil: :evil:

Ive used Firefox for almost 2 years now and have ever had a problem.

[Firefly]

Mein Kampf though, what a turgid, dire struggle to read. Times make the man and Im sure that bad times in Germany made that man something more than he should ever have been......

[SS. Kallan]

Mein Kampf, Ive read only a bit, but I couldnt get into it. I will agree, its just the ramblings of a madman. Hitler wasn't stupid, he was just utterly insane.

[Hosenfield]

...neo nazi?..

[Hanz Lutz]

I lost the link, my Mozilla firefox browser keeps reseting itself :evil: :evil:

Try to use Opera browser i used it its good for me,i have no problems ,and i have firefox 1.04 and makes me problems i cannot download nothing. :?

[Charles]

Mein Kampf is boring as hell, I couldn't manage to read at least half :?

[Twitch1]

Boring ravings perhaps but it sets the stage for "Hitler's 2nd Book" as it is called, where he makes it quite plain that the US is on his list. Just in case there are any weak sisters who still believe in the 1930s isolationism practiced by so many Americans. :wink:

[tobias]

although its not forbidden in Belgium I have never seen it... I'm very interested in reading it

[AM_R.A.D.6th]

If there is a "Mein Kampf" in english i would think that the U.S or some organization have altered the text and book a bit.

Its quite easy to find English versions of Mein Kampf at any decent book store. I bought a copy a few years ago, i was curious, but never did finish reading it.

[arhob1]

Firefly wrote:

Mein Kampf though, what a turgid, dire struggle to read. Times make the man and Im sure that bad times in Germany made that man something more than he should ever have been......


If this book is so bad then do you think that it had no bearing on the rise of the Nazi party? i.e. even back then no one bothered to read it? I always assumed that Mein Kampf was a means of spreading Nazi ideology.

Does any one know if Mein Kampf was a best seller in its day? Or were all those book burnings the Nazi's used to indulge in actually burnings of unsold copies of Mein Kampf?

This book is on my list to buy one day ... to gather dust with the other books I have to have but know are going to be dull.

[deserter]

Main Kampf was a book I remember guys would read in junior high and high school. Don't know why. I could never get into it. You can get the same thing off any white power hate site.

[Firefly]

Firefly wrote:

Mein Kampf though, what a turgid, dire struggle to read. Times make the man and Im sure that bad times in Germany made that man something more than he should ever have been......


If this book is so bad then do you think that it had no bearing on the rise of the Nazi party? i.e. even back then no one bothered to read it? I always assumed that Mein Kampf was a means of spreading Nazi ideology.

Does any one know if Mein Kampf was a best seller in its day? Or were all those book burnings the Nazi's used to indulge in actually burnings of unsold copies of Mein Kampf?

This book is on my list to buy one day ... to gather dust with the other books I have to have but know are going to be dull.

It was a bestseller after Der Madman came to power, everyone was out to prove they were a good Nazi!

[Firefly]

Main Kampf was a book I remember guys would read in junior high and high school. Don't know why. I could never get into it. You can get the same thing off any white power hate site.

Welcome aboard mate, glad to have another member.

Just one slight thing, if you notice everyone here is required to have a WW2 avatar (1933-45). Can you change yours to one please?