Panzerfaust or Panzershreck????

[Sturmtruppen]

They`re both anti tank infantry weapons,but they`re and look really different.
panzerfaust has only one use,and panzershreck so think that,and think panzerfaust is lighter.
what of them is better?.

Vote and Say your opinion about them.

[Gen. Sandworm]

I think the panzerfaust was easier to use and better all around.

[Dani]

Panzerfaust - easier to use.

[nissedruva]

The Panzershreck is the most powerful of them both so i will go with that... the Panzershreck is the better one of them i every aspects exept production and handling. The most powerfull panzershreck could penentrate 200mm of armor!!!
Both were very capable of taking out tanks but i see the "shreck" as a improvement from the other antitank weapons like the "faust"

[Sturmtruppen]

The Panzershreck is the most powerful of them both so i will go with that... the Panzershreck is the better one of them i every aspects exept production and handling. The most powerfull panzershreck could penentrate 200mm of armor!!!
Both were very capable of taking out tanks but i see the "shreck" as a improvement from the other antitank weapons like the "faust"

really intelligent observaton nissedruva :)

[JoseFrancis]

The Pfaust would most definitely be better if the Pfaust 150m or 250m came out in time to see some war action.
If I remember correctly, they were reloadable 10 times.

Cheap to make + Light + Easy to Use + 10x reload = Yay!


...but the Pfaust 100m seems to superior (and more popular) to the Pshreck since it was far more cheaper to build the panzerfaust and was quite lighter.

[PzKpfw VI Tiger]

I prefer the Panzerschreck to the Panzerfaust because the Panzerschreck had more raw penetrating power then the Panzerfaust.

[Walther]

http://www.c-kemp.de/minen/panzerfaust.JPG

In this picture I see lots of Russian RPG-7 warheads and propellant cartridges, a fuze of an artillery round, several mortar bombs, one PIAT round and two Panzerfaust warheads.

Jan

BTW, I have an account of an Austrian refugee fighting with No 3 troop 10 Interallied Commando, attached to a regular British Army infantry unit, who said that in the Netherlands his unit got attacked by German tanks. They didn´t have any AT guns, but shortly before captured a whole dump of Panzerfausts. He said that, since he was the only soldier in his unit who spoke German, he had to translate the instructions on the tube to his comrades and to demonstrate the use of the weapons. They later made good use of them.

Jan

[StalingradK]

Panzerschreck because it tore through tanks and was obviously good enough for Germans to use after they saw its preformance in North Africa

[Hanz Lutz]

Panzerschreck destroyd tank complitly .

[Firefly]

Bothe were effective, they were also designed for diffrent situations.

The faust was designed to be issued to the individual infantry. the Schrek was a bazooka like weapon designed to engage armour at greater ranges.

Comparing the 2 is like comparing a grenade and a mortar.

[Hanz Lutz]

PANZERSCHRECK

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~nightingale/graphics/panzerschreck1.jpg

[StalingradK]

Yes, It is :lol:

[Hosenfield]

i think a better comparison is to compair 4 panzerfausts with 4 rounds of panzershrek (1 panzershrek)

in most situations, i would give the men the 4 panzerfausts.

[Hanz Lutz]

Well i think they are bouth same but panzerfaust have better accuracy,if i wrong corect me :wink:

[StalingradK]

Naw, I don't think the panzerfaust used the same type of projectile as the panzershrek so tha Panzershreck is more powerful can accurate, only down side vs. Panzerfaust if reload time.

[Hosenfield]

Naw, I don't think the panzerfaust used the same type of projectile as the panzershrek so tha Panzershreck is more powerful can accurate, only down side vs. Panzerfaust if reload time.

the panzerfaust had better armor penatration then the panzershrek.

both the panzershrek and us bazooka had a critical flaw: they needed 2 man teams and were heavy and obvious. many US bazooka teams were wiped out as they were getting into position because the weapon was easy to see.

the main advantage was that the panzershrek had double the range.

[Hanz Lutz]

Panzerfaust shot from roof and goodbye tanks .

[Commando Jordovski]

On page 1 Dani and Erwin have posted really sweet pictures of the panzerfausts and panzershreks :wink: :wink:

Well the Development began in 1942 on a larger version of the Faustpatrone. The resulting weapon was the Panzerfaust, a very simple weapon weighing only 5-10 kg.The body was a tube of low-grade steel, around a meter long and a 4-6 cm in diameter. Attached to the upper-side of the tube were a simple rear sight and trigger, if you ask me i reckon that's pretty straight foward :lol:
The Panzerfaust often had warnings written in large red lettering on the upper rear end of the tube, the words usually being "Achtung! Feuerstrahl!" (Beware! Fire Jet!). This was to warn soldiers to avoid the backblast.
The weapon was often fired from the crook of the arm and the shaped charge could penetrate up to 17 cm of steel. After firing, the tube was discarded, making the Panzerfaust the first expendable anti-tank weapon.
Of course as the War raged on technology improved and more versions of it came out.

There were 5 versions of the panzerfaust made, they are the following,

Panzerfaust 30- first model brought out in 1943 which the 30 stood for 30 meters.
Panzerfaust 60- range of 60 meters, most common one used which was brought out in middle 1944.
Panzerfaust 100- range of 100 meters brought out late 1944.
Panzerfaust 150- range, you guessed it 150 meters but it was brought out 1945 at the end of the war so they didn't really use it much.
Panzerfaust 250- range of 250 meters, the most finest anti tank weapon made though it came out days before hitler commited suicide.

The panzerfaust which is a one shot anti tank.
A related weapon is the Bazooka-like Panzerschreck, which could be reloaded though.
When German troops captured an American M9A1 "bazooka" in Africa, they noticed qualities that were lacking in the Panzerfaust and quickly sent it to engineers back in Germany for analysis.

[Man of Stoat]

POST THE DAMN SOURCE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust

[Commando Jordovski]

Link to the following information on anti tank.
http://www.answers.com/topic/panzerfaust
All you had to do was ask...

[StalingradK]

Source is good, but who cares? If no one yells at you, your information is probably exact.

[Panzerknacker]

For those who still dont know where my nick come from: :D

The Panzerknacker, german army manual for close-antitank combat.

Plate 1:

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/9200/10yr.jpg

"Tank Killer: Instructions for Close Combat with Tanks

Leaflet 77/3"


Plate 2:

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"You also can crack tanks!
You need vim and presence of mind. Above all superior savvy will prevail.
Think that tanks don't come only where there are paks [anti-tank guns]. Every day it happens that tanks infiltrate somewhere. You also can face suddenly such a coffer ["Kasten" also means box, hutch cabinet]. Anybody, if you are in the rear, if your are in the furthermost trench, you can get into this situation. The tank does not ask, weather you were trained to be tank cracker or something else.
Every body can do this - even you!"

Plate 3:

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3967/30kq.jpg

"A tank every 150 meters.
Over 1500 km.

What many others do daily,
You can do just as easily.

Over 10,000 German soldiers wear the Tank Close Combat Medal [Panzernahkampfabzeichen]. That many knocked-out tanks corresponds to the equipment of 200 Russian tank brigades and the total Russian tank production for a half year.

And all that done with the most primitive means, no less. But these lay in the hands of real men, and that’s what it boils down to.

You ask yourself, how is that possible under such unequal conditions? It’s quite clear: First off, tanks go after evenly matched opponents: tank, AT gun, and flak. At first they don’t pay you any mind. But then, pay attention:

You can kill tanks too!"


Plate 4:

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"On the other hand,
Even the strongest tank has weaknesses.

Have you ever attacked alongside tanks? Or ever sat in a tank? You will have noticed right away that the fight between man and tank is so uneven—not at all, because even a tank has its weaknesses!

It sees poorly, poorest of all that which goes on right next to it.
It hears poorly.
It can’t defend itself well against you, particularly when you’re right next to it.
It’s highly dependent on terrain.

You have to know the weaknesses of the tank. You’ll find every different production type shown in exact detail in the Tank Close Combat cards (Supplement to Army Manual 469/4) Get them and study them. The first requisite for the tank killer is: know the type. Know the weaknesses. And of course: observe, observe, observe.

(Cannon blind spot = around 7-24m
Small arms blind spot = around 5-9)"



Plate 5:

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"Success at tank killing comes
When you know their weaknesses, otherwise not at all.

Overall, note the weaknesses from this sketch. It’s only a schematic drawing, though.

(front: hatches, optics, guns and mantlet, turret ring, MG and vision port, running gear, final drive train.

(aft: hatches, turret ring, hatches, running gear)

(side: cannon, mantlet, vision ports, ventilation, running gear, turret ring)

(His coat has worn patches,
And tanks show their weaknesses in the same way!)

There’s no basic formula for the positioning of these locations. So, commit to memory the Tank Close Combat and Tank Identification cards.

It’s fear that it generates!"


Plate 6:

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"Dangers are already half averted,
As soon as we recognize them clearly.

(black bar: “From here here he sees you.”
Red dot: “Danger lurks here.)

A tank is definitely not completely defenseless against close attacks. It has pistol ports through which the tanker can shoot with pistols and machine pistols and throw grenades. Aft MG’s are also dangerous. You only need to know: where does he see me most easily? Where does danger threaten?

Note: With hand grenades, he can also reach you in the blind spots.

Look out, danger lurks here!"

------------

To be continued........

[Firefly]

Some nice stuff there. Where did you get it from and is there any more?

[Panzerknacker]

You can found the Panzerknacker booklet translated in here:

http://www.3pgd.org/reference/panzerI.htm

[Firefly]

Thanks for that buddy, Im going to read it now.

[Panzerknacker]

I prefer the Panzerschreck to the Panzerfaust because the Panzerschreck had more raw penetrating power then the Panzerfaust.

The penetration in plain armor is far better in the Panzerfaust due his larger 140 mm warhead compared with the 88 mm in the Panzershreck.

Also the was some Panzerfaust 150s in use even les than 1000 by april of 1945.

http://pacificcoast.net/~gmax/ordnance/p150m.jpg

[Panzer Ace]

Later on in the war with Germany's resources dwindling... did they not come up with a ""Panzerfaust"" that could be reused after being fired? Instead of just throwing it away... could be used up to 10 times or something like that. I"m sure it was the Faust.... and not the Shrek... or am I wrong? :D

[Panzerknacker]

Yes it was the P-150 that is the only reloadable Panzerfaust, the steel tube in the 150 was reinforced to withstand the firing pressures.

[Panzerknacker]

For the spanish readers and all in general here is an article about the Panzerfaust that I wrote in colaboration with a friend.

http://tecnica-militar.fateback.com/terrestre/Panzerfaust.htm

[Panzerknacker]

"Weapon for oldmen, women and children"

http://www.zippyvideos.com/9000474554056376/panzerfausts_der_volkssturm/

[Feldwebel]

well the panzerschreck even it was heavyer it fired a lot of shots and with the panzerfust you had only one chanse of hiting and i don't think you could fire very good when bullets are flying above your head even if the panzerfust had more fire power you couldn't fire straight with that thing :roll:

[Panzerknacker]

Yea but is heavier and required a two mas crew, the Panzerfaust 30 was rather dangerous I agree with that but a P- 60 or even better the 100, are more practical weapons that the panzerschrek.

[orcthesorc]

:D As i know that panzerfaust is most easier to use coz its easy to reload and payload!!! if we think a tank health as 800 points..panzerfaust will take 300 points from a 30 meter distance... like throwing a grenade but much easier!?!?

U must first dig a hole and then the tank wont dedect u if there is no infantry near by (its all imposible to be dedect by the tank).When its 30 meter just throw the panzerfaust 2 times! now your enemy tank is a titanic on the ground!!

These are all my thoughts...no body is responsible fo these... :wink:

[Rockatansky]

As i know that panzerfaust is most easier to use coz its easy to reload and payload!!! if we think a tank health as 800 points..panzerfaust will take 300 points from a 30 meter distance... like throwing a grenade but much easier!?!?

U must first dig a hole and then the tank wont dedect u if there is no infantry near by (its all imposible to be dedect by the tank).When its 30 meter just throw the panzerfaust 2 times! now your enemy tank is a titanic on the ground!!

These are all my thoughts...no body is responsible fo these...


Ok, after reading some of your other post on top of this one, I have to ask if something is wrong with you? We are not talking about a videogame, and one well placed hit from a soldier armed with a panzerfaust can knock out a tank, period. "Health points" do not apply on the battlefields of WW2. Also, how the destructive effects of a Panzerfaust's projectile hitting a tank at 30meters, well within the effective range of the Panzerfaust 30, 60, 100, and 150, is in any comparable to the effects of a hand grenade against a tank is beyond me.

When its 30 meter just throw the panzerfaust 2 times! now your enemy tank is a titanic on the ground!!

Throw a panzerfaust at a tank....twice? So not only is a German soldier using it as a club, he has to run and pick it up to thow it at a tank a second time? I hope he had his will made :wink:

[Panzerknacker]

And also...there is no need to writte everything in Bold, with the normal front would be enough.

I have to ask if something is wrong with you?

I think there is.... :roll:

[orcthesorc]

u dont like me right!!? But u must sure that u cant live the horror of ww2 only talking by this way!! ı cant see the bad way of a video game!?!?
what else every person has different pshyclology! id like to write on bold!_ who cares!?

so!? im respect on all heroes on ww2!im respect on u too!!! thats all dudes just calm! i dont know more than u about ww2...just sharing.

Edited by Panzerknacker to remove the "boldness"

[Panzerknacker]

You can show you respect writing in a normal front also.
The problem is yours not mine.

:roll:


http://homepage.tinet.ie/~nightingale/graphics/panzerfaust.jpg

[Dani]

id like to write on bold!_ who cares!?


I care, mate. Try to avoid emboldment if you haven't reasons to embold other than "I like bold".
Also make an effort and use proper English language. You are not in a chat room to use "u" instead of "you" (as an example). Don't forget about capitalization of I instead of i. It's OK if you don't know how to spell some words. It's OK if you don't give 2 cents on syntax. But, it's is a proof of disrespect to continue using bold font.

u g0t m3? :lol:

Cheers!

[CDN3RD_Canadian]

Both had their pros and cons, but for ease of use the panzerfaust is what i would take.

[Panzerknacker]

The only real advantage of the RPzB54 is the range, but when the Panzerfaust 100 appeared this advantage was no more.

I am a old defender of the tank fist.

http://www.detektorweb.cz/upload/clanky/892/obr4.jpg

[CDN3RD_Canadian]

so what was the differnce with the 100m from the 60m? other then the range, internally or amount of damge it could inflict?

[Panzerknacker]

Basicly the range, the P 100 contain more propellent so it had more muzzle velocity, then more range.

Panzerfaust 100 cutaway.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3607/guru4hn.gif


The shaped charge was the same, it could penetrate about 160-170 mm of homogeneous armor.

[Panzerknacker]

An odd view of a Sherman tank equiped with french chickehouse mesh wire. :?

That was for reppeling the Panzerfaust shaped charge.

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2079/shermangallinero1nk.jpg

[SS Tiger]

How long did it take the Panzerfaust to cover 100m? How does this compare to the Panzershreck?

That chicken mesh defence is quite interesting!

[Cuts]

...

That chicken mesh defence is quite interesting!


Take a look at police stations in NI !

[Panzerknacker]

How long did it take the Panzerfaust to cover 100m

The Panzerfaust 100 more than 2 sec, the P- 150 1,5 sec.

How does this compare to the Panzershreck

Well dont be lazy and read the previous pages of this topic. :twisted:

[Lancer44]

Now a nice present for Panzerknacker - Happy D-Day anniversary!
A few interesting photos of P/faust and P/scheck:
Enjoy and start discussion!

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3078/panzerfausts5em.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Look at fuse housings. (?)

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6352/panzerschreck1ht.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5769/panzerschreck20ot.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Hmm, without it this poor bloke would fly? :D

And now... real rarity. Panzerabwehrmunitionskraftwagen Mk1
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/3061/munitionkraftwagen3ia.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And Mk2...

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4430/panzerabwehrkraftwagen6me.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Enjoy, :)

Lancer44

[Panzerknacker]

Quiet nitid pictures thanks.

The weapons depicted are both from late 1943, The RpzB 43 without the shiel (that why the shooter use the gas mask) and the Panzerfaust Klein.

[SS Tiger]

How long did it take the Panzerfaust to cover 100m

The Panzerfaust 100 more than 2 sec, the P- 150 1,5 sec.

How does this compare to the Panzershreck

Well dont be lazy and read the previous pages of this topic. :twisted:

I was just looking for a comparisant between the speed of the weapons(not weapons overall), whether or not the extra second or two is a big advantage?

[Panzerknacker]

Oh...in that case the Panzerfaust 150 superior muzzle speed made it very superior weapon, but few of these were actually deployed.

[Outerheaven]

Quiet nitid pictures thanks.

The weapons depicted are both from late 1943, The RpzB 43 without the shiel (that why the shooter use the gas mask) and the Panzerfaust Klein.
Did the weapon emit some type of poison?

[Lancer44]

Quiet nitid pictures thanks.

The weapons depicted are both from late 1943, The RpzB 43 without the shiel (that why the shooter use the gas mask) and the Panzerfaust Klein.
Did the weapon emit some type of poison?

No, just a lot of smoke. But soldier on the pic wear gas-mask against blast from starting rocket - as Panzerknacker wrote - RpzB 43 is without shield. Normally shield is sufficient cover for the face.
You may ask why American bazooka had no protective shield...
The secret is in different propellant.

Cheers,

Lancer44

[Panzerknacker]

Indeed, the mask was to avoid any burn or propellent pellet entering in the shooters eye. This was not wrote in the weapons manul but discovered by the foot soldier.

By the way in this video you can see the actual secuence of loading and shooting the 43 model Shreck.

http://www.stv.ee/~zakalev/ww2%20german%20antitank%20tactics.mpg

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~nightingale/graphics/panzerschreck.jpg

[Jim]

if anyone was behind a one of these would get burned by the jet of flame shoot from brhind it

[stephen]

nice screen shot from saving private ryan if i'm not mistaken

[Librarian]

Honorable gentlemen, please accept my request for forgiveness because of evidently belatedly posted pictures. However, as a beginner I surely do hope that these original color photos of German infantry rocket-propelled anti-tank weapons, previously printed in a truly remarkable German wartime „Signal” magazine back there in 1944, will be useful additions for encircled presentation of aforementioned weaponry.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/Langnasen/Panzerschrek-SignalUNr.jpg

Panzerschrek – just fired

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/Langnasen/Panzerfaust-Signal-UNr.jpg

Panzerfaust – ready for launch

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/Langnasen/PanzerfaustHollow-ChargeWarheadImpa.jpg

Panzerfaust – hollow charge effect on a STANAG 4032 panzerplatte

In the very same time I wish to express my personal gratitude for numerous hours of pure historiographic joy, courteously offered by you. Your truly remarkable insight, astonishing amount of factual knowledge, as well as almost inexhaustible fact-resources have created a true all-inclusive WW II reference – center on the web. Once again – thank you for your efforts. May god bless you and keep you!:)

[Dani]

Dobrodoshlo Librarian!
Thanks for your warm thoughts. I only hope that you'll contribute from now on as you remarkably started. Please enjoy our community and our board if I may say so.
Once again welcome!

[Panzerknacker]

Very nice pictures , welcome. :cool:

[Panzerknacker]

Checking more carefully those seems colored screenshots of this piece of film.

http://www.wochenschau-archiv.de/kontrollklfenster.php?&PHPSESSID=&dmguid=08E92C00FF3BA5CD030103009D21A8C0101B000000&inf=186040&outf=255760&funktion=play250k

[Librarian]

Thank you for your warm reception, honorable gentlemen. I shall try not to disappoint you. After all – being a member of this distinguished web-community certainly requires devoted and proficient performance.

BTW – Hvala, bolje Vas našao, dragi komšija! :D

And yes - undoubtedly they are, my dear Mr. Panzerknacker. Obviously, in those late WW II years even Reichministerium für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda was forced to save raw material. :roll:

[angform]

PanzerFaust, easier, lighter.

[Flammpanzer]

well, I guess both were great and valuable weapons for the germans since there was a constant lack of PAKs and tanks on all fronts and the mass of armor especially on the eastern front was a big problem. maybe the panzerfaust was the better one, because it was easier to use, which could be an important fact on the battle-field. btw.: the russians were eager to catch all panzerfäuste they could get to use them for their own.

I shot the PANZERFAUST 3 with the BUNDESWEHR in 1996 and I can tell you this is a precise and deadly weapon, if used right.

jens

[Wolfgang Von Gottberg]

I've never used one, but I have been told that the panzerfaust was a better choice, though it was utterly annoying to use. I hear trying to hit a Soviet tank from a distance with one of these is quite inaccurate.

But, if you could mannage to hide in a foxhole (As Yanks call them) and say a T-34 rolls over you without crushing every bone in your body, you may be able to hit it in its rear and knock it out.

[Nickdfresh]

Um, a-hem. Yes...


Interestingly, we may have found a Panzerfaust at a site I'm working nearby, and old US Army proving grounds. I'll ask the UXO guys tomorrow, but I heard it being discussed over the radio...

Don't know if it was an inert training dummy round, a mistake, or the real thing.

[Wolfgang Von Gottberg]

Is it the WWII model?

[Nickdfresh]

Nope. It was actually an M-29 rifle grenade. I could have told them it wasn't a beloved Panzerfaust! :D

http://users.acsol.net/~gmingj/rifle_grenade_01.jpg

(The inert warhead only, no tale section)

[Travis]

IN all both are very good, They both served there purpose, but the panzerfausts pretty much had a very easier use and also lighter load rather then the panzerschreck. Another good thing about the panzerfaust was the one shot idea, were you shot it off you dumped it and continued to fight. Rather then lugging around a heavy metal tube

[Rocketeer]

Panzershreck was a much more powerful anti-tank gun, Thus, making it obv better than the 'Faust. The design was alot better, with the face sheild and all, making it heavyier, But Iam sure the Germans didn't mind lugging it around if was gunna save lifes from the allie's tanks.

[Panzerknacker]

Actually the PZ shreck penetrate less armor, about 150mm compared with near 200 mm in the Panzerfaust 60, but obviously had advantages in his reload capacity and longer effective aimed range.

[cooke24]

I think i would say the panzerfaust. Just because of its simplicity of use and design. Hundreds of these were handed to the civilians of berlin at the very last days of germany if im not mistaken. Does anyone know of any russian variation of the bazooka or panzerfaust?

[Rocketeer]

The Panzersherck less powerful? Anyone know which one was more commonly used, or which one took out more alley'd tanks?

[Raven]

I personally believe the panzerfaust was more better and ideal for a lot of the combat the German army was involved with.
Simple to use and effective. What more is needed?
The panzerfaust was able to be fired from inside buildings. Compared with the panzershreck which smoked too much to be a practical exercise.
The faust was discarded straight away while the shreck would need to be moved into position, fired and moved again since the amount of smoke it produced would give away its position.

Also just looking at the weight of each I know which one I would prefer to use.
Panzershreck - 9-12 kg
Panzerfaust - 5-10 kg


Of course I'm not saying the Shreck wasn't as, if not MORE effective. Just my personal thought.


Some quick and easy information on the Panzerfaust (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerfaust)from Wiki.

Panzerfaust 30
The "Panzerfaust 30" was the original version, first delivered in August, 1943
Range - 30 meters
Weight - 5.1

Panzerfaust 60
This was the most common version, and production started in August, 1944
Range - 60 meters
Weight - 6.1 kg

Panzerfaust 100
This was the final version produced in quantity, from November 1944 onwards.
Range - 100 meters(maximum)
Weight - 6 kg

Panzerfaust 150
The Panzerfaust 150 was intended to be reused for up to ten shots.
Production started in March 1945, two months before the end of the war.
http://digilander.libero.it/historiabis/panzerfaust19.jpg
A rare photo of a PF150

Panzerfaust 250
A Panzerfaust 250 was planned to enter production in September 1945 but the war ended before development had been completed.

Compare all the ranges to the Panzershrecks 180meters. ;)

A simple panzerfaust video.
Panzerfaust (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-_iYl3u17U)


Some interesting photos of the panzerfaust showing some unique ways to utilize it.
http://digilander.libero.it/historiabis/panzerfaust24.jpg http://digilander.libero.it/historiabis/panzerfaust03.jpg

[Elementarer Soldat]

Depends what you need.
Panzerfaust -lighter smaller and easy to produce.
Panzershreck-more fire power more accurate
Personally I would take the Panzershreck,Terror is better than fist any ways.

[tankgeezer]

While the Faust was easy to use, and operable by one person, it needed to be used at ranges too close for my comfort, so I would prefer the shreck. Greater power, usable at greater ranges. And with a two man crew, target aquisition, and defense were improved. Always good to do the deed, AND live to tell the tale...- Raspenau -

[Raven]

Komraden!
I apologise for the trouble but I'm trying to find an illustration from the internet showing different ways on how to fire the panzerfaust. One of the images had the soldier firing from upon his shoulder much like a bazooka or panzershreck.
I'm really kicking myself that I didn't save it.

If anyone knows this and can put up the image I would be most grateful.

[Splinter54]

Komraden - a mix between Comrads and Kameraden? Nice ^^

http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/niemiecka_bron_strzelecka_pliki/panzerfaust_naklejka.gif

http://www.superborg.de/bilder/D0560_2.jpg

http://www.superborg.de/bilder/D0560_3.jpg

[Raven]

Komraden - a mix between Comrads and Kameraden? Nice ^^

Heh, smarty. Unfortunately my spelling for other languages isn't as good as I'd hope...

Thank you for taking the time to reply, but sadly none of the pictures have what I am looking for.

[Splinter54]

Well it was weather fired from under the arm or on the shoulder - first was more common, because of the maximal shoting range of the weapon and the aiming.
On top of the warhead had been a small round pin and at the visor had been three different holes for the different ranges - from above the ranges grow and the maximal range is show on the lowest hole ( for the Pzfst60 -> 60 meters)
So when the tank is e.g. 30 meters away you aim with through the middle hole and adjust the target with the pin on the warhead -> fire.

[Panzerknacker]

A lot more images and video here:

http://mundosgm.com/smf/index.php?topic=63.0


http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/706/panzerfaustcomousar4mg.jpg

[MayberrySaint]

Can someone please explain how the Panzerfaust was used against armor. Did it have armor-piercing capability? or was it used to disable tanks by knocking off the treads? Did it have any anti-personnel uses...could it be used to attack infantry in buildings, etc.?

[Panzerknacker]

The Panzerfaust used the shaped charge effect ton penetrate armor.
A animated gif to illustrate how the hollow charge works.

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5200/nffurqoe6.gif


for more:

http://www.geocities.com/Augusta/8172/panzerfaust1.htm