Movie Reccomendations

[Cactus]

I need some, I signed up for the Blockbuster online. I put Stalag, to hell, stalingrad I need more good war flics, or movies in general. Any suggestions? :D

[Gen. Sandworm]

FW-190 told me about this cool flick coming out about the last days of the 3rd Reich. The movie is called Downfall. Not sure when it will be out on DVD. Looks really good.

http://www.downfallthefilm.com/

[Cactus]

I want to see that now. I checked amazon they have it but no release date. I found it on ebay but I wouldn't buy something like that off ebay probably get a burnt crappy bootleg with my luck.

[FW-190 Pilot]

I want to see that now. I checked amazon they have it but no release date. I found it on ebay but I wouldn't buy something like that off ebay probably get a burnt crappy bootleg with my luck.
of course its not out yet, its extremely new

[Dani]

German Amazon:
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002Z16HY/302-9390541-8432824

And from imdb:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/board/thread/16753009?d=16835280#16835280

[Gen. Sandworm]

Looks like a new WW2 movie might be coming out about Iwo Jima. Could be a good flick.

http://www.14wfie.com/Global/story.asp?S=3171480

[Radooh]

My favorite movies are:

Das Boot - Directors Cut
Saving Private Ryan
Memphis Belle
Peal Harbor (mostly for the effects, not historically accurate)
Enemy at the Gates

I heard Dark Blue World was also a really good one but I haven't been able to find it in any blockbuster.

[Gen. Sandworm]

This is a pretty decent movie about the trials at Nuremburg. I really enjoyed it. Brian Cox does a really good job at playing Herman Goering.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0208629/

[WildBoar]

If they have "THE Longest Day "

or " A Bridge Too Far" I would recommend them.

[Gen. Sandworm]

Another cool movie is called Fatherland in which the Germans beat back the invasion of Normandy and then the Allies sue for peace. The Germans and the Russians continue in war but at a Stalemate. So in the 60's some of the people discover what really happens to the Jews and the plot thickens. Decent movie with Rutger Hauer.

[IRONMAN]

Enemy at the Gates.

It's the story of the famous Russian WWII sniper Vasilli Zaitev. Fantastic movie with great acting, set design, cast, efeects, cinematography, etc. Check it out.

[WildBoar]

Battle of Britain is also worth a watch although I bought it recently for under a tenner.

[FW-190 Pilot]

Enemy at the Gates.

It's the story of the famous Russian WWII sniper Vasilli Zaitev. Fantastic movie with great acting, set design, cast, efeects, cinematography, etc. Check it out.
really, someone in the forum say russian soldiers piss at this movie since it didnt accurately discribe history

[Dani]

Enemy at the Gates.

It's the story of the famous Russian WWII sniper Vasilli Zaitev. Fantastic movie with great acting, set design, cast, efeects, cinematography, etc. Check it out.
really, someone in the forum say russian soldiers piss at this movie since it didnt accurately discribe history

I heard also many critics on Enemy at the Gates. Also Band of Brothers series seems to be not so accurate.
On the other hand it seems that Germans could make very good (and accurate) movies on WW2. Check Das Boot!!

[WildBoar]

I have heard a bit of criticism aimed at Enemy at the Gates but them when a film is Hollywooded then it has to appeal rather than portray accurately. Take that u-571 Never going to watch it as it's a blatent abuse of the facts.

[IRONMAN]

Enemy at the Gates.

It's the story of the famous Russian WWII sniper Vasilli Zaitsev. Fantastic movie with great acting, set design, cast, efeects, cinematography, etc. Check it out.
really, someone in the forum say russian soldiers piss at this movie since it didnt accurately discribe history

Never heard that. Oh well. I'm a tough sell when it comes to realism in films, and I loved it. It was quite realistic indeed. Let's not forget that every movie, from "Hollywood" or otherwise will be by some measure an embellishment of the facts. Motion pictures have always been that way. It's called entertainment. That's what keeps people, like yourself, renting movies. I doubt you rented "Rush Hour" because it was so factual. lol Documentaries simply don't cause people to rush out to the movie rental stores.

It sounds like a rumor to me. And this nameless critic knows all those Russian soldiers who "piss at" the movie? I saw the film and it seemed very accurate to the way things truly were. Try saying something else if you disagree, like stating why you disagree, instead of making up quotes from someone who knows Russian soldiers who hate the movie.

[WildBoar]

Ok Ironman over here we have a television channel that operates without adverts :shock: I know from being in the states that it wouldn't work over there probably because of lack of concentration (Possibly due to junk food intake :P ) I enjoy watching action movies yes but that is what they are they aren't attempting to portray historical facts.

I also enjoy watching documentaries about the real events including interviews with people from both sides and have read books written by members of the German Army and Air Force.

I still await to see what part you played iin WW2 if you know so much about it?

Rubbishing other peoples posts because you don't hold the same opinions is very low.

[IRONMAN]

I still await to see what part you played iin WW2 if you know so much about it?

You fought in WWII? lol

Posting false staments just to be arbitrary doesn't get you anywhere, any more than the America bashing you are doing in another thread does. Surely you don't believe that people are'nt smart enough to see what you are doing when you make up such falsehoods. Say something factual instead of making up garbage like... "I heard a guy say in a forum that the Russian army doesn't like that film because..."

[WildBoar]

I still await to see what part you played iin WW2 if you know so much about it?

You fought in WWII? lol

Posting false staments just to be arbitrary doesn't get you anywhere, any more than the America bashing you are doing in another thread does. Surely you don't believe that people are'nt smart enough to see what you are doing when you make up such falsehoods. Say something factual instead of making up garbage like... "I heard a guy say in a forum that the Russian army doesn't like that film because..."


I never claimed to be in WW" but you seemed to know how realistic a film on it was so were you there, to know realism?

[IRONMAN]

abx

[WildBoar]

If this thread is not to spread lies then I suggest you leave and don't patronise me with that young man Shite I've more miliitary experiance in my llittle finger than you have Pal. If you are reffering to the films made in Hollywood Then I know what your problem is, you've been lied to :)

I have read a great many books from both sides and they capture what it was really like far better than a movie even newsreels can't fully capture the emotions involved.So maybe you should try something other than your propoganda.

[IRONMAN]

IT"S NOT A DOCUMENTARY.

...even though it was pretty accurate. But then, you never saw the movie, yet you have a crippling urge to bash on me for liking it.

:lol:

You are sad my boy. Truly. It's a sickness.

[WildBoar]

You are sad my boy. Truly. It's a sickness.

Not as much as the Blind patriotism that you display.

[Gen. Sandworm]

You are sad my boy. Truly. It's a sickness.

Not as much as the Blind patriotism that you display.

Dont make me separate you to guys. Ill come back there slap the both of ya :D

[IRONMAN]

Another great war film was Midway. It had a host of major stars. Pretty realistic too. I think it came out in the 1970's. A wonderful film.

[FW-190 Pilot]

no offense, ironman, if my suggest rules are in effect, you already be ban
and if you disagree with me/dont know my post, you can ignore it, lol
its not just to me, its also to other members in this forum

i quote myself
do not use offensive words against other members

if you failed to do so, dont post at all, thanks

[IRONMAN]

no offense, ironman, if my suggest rules are in effect, you already be ban
and if you disagree with me/dont know my post, you can ignore it, lol
its not just to me, its also to other members in this forum

i quote myself
do not use offensive words against other members

if you failed to do so, dont post at all, thanks

I have not used offensive words against others, but instead have been defending against them.

[IRONMAN]

It is a response to:

I have heard a bit of criticism aimed at Enemy at the Gates but them when a film is Hollywooded then it has to appeal rather than portray accurately. Take that u-571 Never going to watch it as it's a blatent abuse of the facts.

I know from being in the states that it wouldn't work over there probably because of lack of concentration (Possibly due to junk food intake :P )

and to:

really, someone in the forum say russian soldiers piss at this movie since it didnt accurately discribe history

Why don't you find something better to do than gang up on newcomers to this forum with made-up criticisms from non-existant people and make insulting remarks about thier country? Certainly when you do such things, you don't expect the person to not respond in kind do you? If you were swing a stick at a dog, would you not expect it to snap at you?

Every opinion I have stated in this forum has come under immediate attack with supporting quotes from supposedly unknown persons, insults to my country, and lot's of "I heard someone say that..." or "They say in Russia that..." or name calling such as "idiot" and "moron" and such, and any whay that you and can pull a rabbit from a hat to put down anything that I say. Why don't you simply allow me to state my opinion without such rhetoric? Then you will not have to be upset that it illicits a response from me.

Be courteous to me and you will receive the same.

[South African Military]

Anyhow, I think that U-571 is the worst movie that is based on WW2. At first, I thought it was really a pretty good portrayel, and I thought that it was pretty accurate, but then I found out. For those of you who dont know, in the movie they portrayed the Americans capturing the German U-boat and getting the code, but it was really the British that did it. So why did they make that movie like that anyway? I have no idea. But for people who watched that movie, and dont really take notice to history, then they are really getting the wrong information in their heads, which is sad.

[FW-190 Pilot]

IT"S NOT A DOCUMENTARY
what is that to wildboar?

It is a response to:

I have heard a bit of criticism aimed at Enemy at the Gates but them when a film is Hollywooded then it has to appeal rather than portray accurately. Take that u-571 Never going to watch it as it's a blatent abuse of the facts.

I know from being in the states that it wouldn't work over there probably because of lack of concentration (Possibly due to junk food intake :P )

and to:

really, someone in the forum say russian soldiers piss at this movie since it didnt accurately discribe history

Why don't you find something better to do than gang up on newcomers to this forum with made-up criticisms from non-existant people and make insulting remarks about thier country? Certainly when you do such things, you don't expect the person to not respond in kind do you? If you were swing a stick at a dog, would you not expect it to snap at you?

Every opinion I have stated in this forum has come under immediate attack with supporting quotes from supposedly unknown persons, insults to my country, and lot's of "I heard someone say that..." or "They say in Russia that..." or name calling such as "idiot" and "moron" and such, and any whay that you and can pull a rabbit from a hat to put down anything that I say. Why don't you simply allow me to state my opinion without such rhetoric? Then you will not have to be upset that it illicits a response from me.

Be courteous to me and you will receive the same.
everyone is trying to contribute to this forum, if you dont like the respond, you can ignore it, no one point a gun to you and said you have to respond it, and please read carefully, i never insult your country, i just suggest that the movie is not as accurate as you would think it is

[FW-190 Pilot]

Anyhow, I think that U-571 is the worst movie that is based on WW2. At first, I thought it was really a pretty good portrayel, and I thought that it was pretty accurate, but then I found out. For those of you who dont know, in the movie they portrayed the Americans capturing the German U-boat and getting the code, but it was really the British that did it. So why did they make that movie like that anyway? I have no idea. But for people who watched that movie, and dont really take notice to history, then they are really getting the wrong information in their heads, which is sad.

yeah, i read the newspaper talking about that, i heard the government of bristish did protest a little bit for that movie

[IRONMAN]

For those of you who dont know, in the movie they portrayed the Americans capturing the German U-boat and getting the code, but it was really the British that did it. So why did they make that movie like that anyway? I have no idea. But for people who watched that movie, and dont really take notice to history, then they are really getting the wrong information in their heads, which is sad.

yeah, i read the newspaper talking about that, i heard the government of bristish did protest a little bit for that movie

Hmm. They protested the Americans capturing a U-boat and depicting it in a film, with Americans doing the capturing? You heard that? I hardly think so. :roll:

I have a correction for you. The submarine was Unterseeboot 505 (u-505), not U-571 however, as named in the movie. It was America soldiers from the U.S.S Pilsbury led by US. Naval Officer Albert Leroy David with 8 men that got aboard that sub and got the crypotgraphic machine.

It was not the British that did that.

Nor did the british government protest the film. :roll:

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Unterseeboot%20505

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-505

http://www.explore-boats.com/water_transportation/U/Unterseeboot_505.html

You guys have been getting away with murder in this forum haven't you.

[Gen. Sandworm]

Anyhow, I think that U-571 is the worst movie that is based on WW2. At first, I thought it was really a pretty good portrayel, and I thought that it was pretty accurate, but then I found out. For those of you who dont know, in the movie they portrayed the Americans capturing the German U-boat and getting the code, but it was really the British that did it. So why did they make that movie like that anyway? I have no idea. But for people who watched that movie, and dont really take notice to history, then they are really getting the wrong information in their heads, which is sad.

The story is obviously false. But close enought to get the message across. The Americans did capture a complete German U-boat in late 42. The commander didnt follow the scuttling procedure correctly and the Americans had enought time to board and keep it from sinking. They dragged the half sunked Uboat back to the US with the enigma as well. But by this time in the war the British had captured 3 engima's already. Nonetheless it was still helpful.

[South African Military]

For those of you who dont know, in the movie they portrayed the Americans capturing the German U-boat and getting the code, but it was really the British that did it. So why did they make that movie like that anyway? I have no idea. But for people who watched that movie, and dont really take notice to history, then they are really getting the wrong information in their heads, which is sad.

yeah, i read the newspaper talking about that, i heard the government of bristish did protest a little bit for that movie

Hmm. They protested the Americans capturing a U-boat and depicting it in a film, with Americans doing the capturing? You heard that? I hardly think so. :roll:

I have a correction for you. The submarine was Unterseeboot 505 (u-505), not U-571 however, as named in the movie. It was America soldiers from the U.S.S Pilsbury led by US. Naval Officer Albert Leroy David with 8 men that got aboard that sub and got the crypotgraphic machine.

It was not the British that did that.

Nor did the british government protest the film. :roll:

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Unterseeboot%20505

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-505

http://www.explore-boats.com/water_transportation/U/Unterseeboot_505.html

You guys have been getting away with murder in this forum haven't you.

yes it is true that the Americans did capture a U-boat with the enigma, but in the Movie they depicted it as they where the first to do it. The British captured the enigma in 1941, however the U.S. only did it in 1944.

Here is the proof. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-571_%28movie%29

Taken from wikipedia U-571 the movie.

"Enigma and the associated "code books" (actually, cipher-key tables) were first captured from U-110 by the British in May 1941, before the United States' entry into World War II. The British also captured material from U-559 in 1942. The U.S. Navy did seize German Naval Enigma material in June 1944 when it captured U-505 (the U.S. Navy's first capture of an enemy vessel at sea in 129 years).
The film caused irritation in Britain. Critics argued that U-571 failed to portray history correctly because, in total, there were some 15 captures of Naval Enigma material during World War II, of which the Americans carried out one (U-505), the Canadians carried out one (U-774), and the British performed the rest. While the British captures from submarines and weather trawlers provided critical information for breaking Enigma, by the time of the American and Canadian captures, the Allies were reading Naval Enigma routinely. Moreover, the American capture of U-505 by a destroyer captain on the eve of D-Day might have put Operation Overlord in jeopardy. However, as acknowledged by the film-makers, the story of the film is entirely fictional.
Shortly after the release of the film, BBC radio interviewed a former British naval officer who had been involved in the recovery of cipher-key tables from a German submarine that was on the point of sinking; he commented that the film had nothing to do with any historical facts, but was entertaining.
U-571 was an actual German submarine, but that vessel was not involved in anything like the events depicted in the film."

[Gen. Sandworm]

Thanks for clearing that up S.A.M. :D

[Gen. Sandworm]

Hmm. They protested the Americans capturing a U-boat and depicting it in a film, with Americans doing the capturing? You heard that? I hardly think so.


Silly or not they did.

http://film.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/Exclusive/0,,328809,00.html

[South African Military]

Thanks for clearing that up S.A.M. :D

No prob Gen.

[IRONMAN]

Hmm. They protested the Americans capturing a U-boat and depicting it in a film, with Americans doing the capturing? You heard that? I hardly think so.


Silly or not they did.

http://film.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/Exclusive/0,,328809,00.html

The person who wrote that tabloid article made the same claim that WildBoar did: that the british made that U-boat capture. Did you not read it? You have seen that the truth is that the capture was made by US the US, and still you post the link to the person that claimed the british did it? :?:

From the article you psoted a link to:

"The latest sceptic to wade in against the movie is our very own culture secretary Chris Smith, who has damned the way the film credits Americans with a heroic mission that was actually undertaken by the British."
please do not listen to unreliable source

[Gen. Sandworm]

Hmm. They protested the Americans capturing a U-boat and depicting it in a film, with Americans doing the capturing? You heard that? I hardly think so.


Silly or not they did.

http://film.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/Exclusive/0,,328809,00.html

The person that wrote that tabloid article made the same claim that WildBoar did: that the british made that U-boat capture. Did you not read it? You have seen that the truth is that the capture was made by US the US, and still you post the link to the person that claimed the british did it? :?:

From the article you psoted a link to:

"The latest sceptic to wade in against the movie is our very own culture secretary Chris Smith, who has damned the way the film credits Americans with a heroic mission that was actually undertaken by the British."

I warned you guys against listening to rhetoric over dark beer in pubs, I should also warn you against believeing anything tabloid , liberal press members write. It will only convince you of lies.
:lol:

I cleaned you post up a bit. Without trying to take away from what you where saying. You can edit if you like but keep it clean or I will delete it. Thanks :D

[IRONMAN]

I cleaned you post up a bit. Without trying to take away from what you where saying. You can edit if you like but keep it clean or I will delete it. Thanks :D

Thanks. I really hate being drawn into that kind of behavior.

[WildBoar]

Ok you say the British didn't capture the U-571 No problem with that but then neither did the USA so it was entirely fictional then?
Even your own countrymen who know their facts are telling you :roll:

[South African Military]

Well, If you guys read my earlier posts, then you would know that no one ever captured the U-571.

Also the British were the first ones to capture the enigma code, but both the Americans and Canadians each captured one around 1944.

I think we can leave the discussion about the move U-571.

[IRONMAN]

yes it is true that the Americans did capture a U-boat with the enigma,

Taken from wikipedia U-571 the movie.

"The U.S. Navy did seize German Naval Enigma material in June 1944 when it captured U-505."

All I did was suggest a movie and here come the attacks and falicies.


Back to the topic now please.


There is something that I hope you will all read here:

http://www.ww2incolor.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=2026#2026


Enemy at the Gates.

It's the story of the famous Russian WWII sniper Vasilli Zaitev. Fantastic movie with great acting, set design, cast, efeects, cinematography, etc. Check it out.
really, someone in the forum say russian soldiers piss at this movie since it didnt accurately discribe history

I have heard a bit of criticism aimed at Enemy at the Gates but them when a film is Hollywooded then it has to appeal rather than portray accurately. Take that u-571 Never going to watch it as it's a blatent abuse of the facts.

This was the source of all of the arguing in this thread. Because I was a new member, you attacked my movie suggestion and posted an argumentative post immediately after I suggested a movie. You did not do this behind any of the other people's suggestions, only mine. Just so you know.

[FW-190 Pilot]

Stalingrad review: really nice with two major combat, one in the street of stalingrad(i guess), and one is some german infantry destroying a group of russian tank, very nice effect and pretty nice plot, what makes me disappointed is the actors are not very good somtimes, and they really talk a lot of BS, this movie would be a little bit better with a little bit more action and a little bit less talking, and the ending is kind of wierd, but otherwise this movie is perfect

Saving Private Ryan: i find this movie very boring in the beginning and i barely have the patient to finish the entier movie, and the end is very wierd, dont know why tom hanks would run toward enemy lines to kill himself? and that ryan would actually feel guility of tom hanks killing himself?

Downfall: this movie is very good but if you are looking for action movie, you will be greatly disappointed, this movie has two minutes of action maximum, and the rest is about hitler's life under then bunkers and shows how berlin is being fired by artillery and planes. this movie has used real soldiers name is few of them are still surivive today (or just die within five years ago)

[FW-190 Pilot]

have anyone watch the following movie?
sincity, the schlinder's list, the pianist, saints and soldiers?
i have all of them but havent watch it yet, but not sure which is the best to watch

[LargeBrew]

When you rent a movie you get what you pay for. If you want fantasy thats ok but if you want a factual account try documentaries or movies based on the real events. Try Mid Way, Tora Tora Tora, The Battle of Britain, The Longest Day, Das Boot or the opening sequence of saving private Ryan. For documentaries try Fire falls from the sky ( the german experience of the Battle of Britain )Their's was the glory (acted by veterns of market garden) The Black Panthers ( the experience of a black tank unit during the battle of the Bulge) Try the History Channel as Hollywood tends to produce movies that that they think Americans want to see rather than the truth ie, U541

[FW-190 Pilot]

has anyone heard of the new movie "Leningrad", its will be out in 2006
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0432314/

[King_Nothing]

Doesn't sound like my type of film, "A powerful love story" no thanks.

[Cactus]

I'll check it out regardless. 8)

[Sturmtruppen]

now,we have the movies forum section!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[Commando Jordovski]

The War movies that i classify as my favourite would be "Enemy at the Gates" , i have done research on Russia WW2, most of the information in that movie is correct.
Movies like "saving private Ryan" depict the typical american propoganda, telling viewers the U.S won the war and did all the normandy invasion on june 6 1944.

[Crab_to_be]

...
Movies like "saving private Ryan" depict the typical american propoganda, telling viewers the U.S won the war and did all the normandy invasion on june 6 1944.

I have to defend Saving Private Ryan here. Normally, I'd agree that the Hollywood version of events is rather twisted - I wouldn't be surprised to see a blockbuster epic about how the US Navy defeated the Spanish Armada with the aid of some token English ships, or how the US Army defeated the mongol horde (In both instances by saluting their flag a lot and shouting 'HUH!').

Private Ryan omits the non-US Allied contribution to D-Day because it wasn't relevant to the storyline. It is entirely plausible that a group of US soldiers searching for another US soldier in the (presumably) US zone would not come across any other Allied soldiers. If they had crowbarred in all the other nations it could have ended up with really grating scenes as Tom Hanks meets up with yet another stereotyped British/Canadian/Indian/Free French/Polish soldier drifting past to make up the ethnic quotas.

Mind you, is Saving Private Ryan the film where someone describes Montgomery as 'overrated'? If it is, I could have tolerated a stereotyped 'ard as nails British Sergeant entering from stage left and knocking out whoever said it.

[Crab_to_be]

While I think of it, I can thoroughly recommend 'Dambusters'. The special effects are terrible, but I still get a chill down my spine every the Wellington comes in low by Chesil Beach with the Dambusters' March playnig in the background. Plus, I can never remember when the Bomb actually bounces, so the suspense remains. The attacks on the Dams themselves are nailbiting every time. Apparently this film was shot in black and white so that it would be possible to splice in stock footage. See the thread on 'Mohne Dam' in British Military for more information on Op. Chastise.

Where Eagles Dare is another classic. As far as I know, it bears no relation to any real raid. Even so, it's a very enjoyable film with a few more plot twists than you might expect at first glance. Richard Burton, Clint Eastwood (amongst others) are sent on a mission to a German Castle to rescue a captured US Army General. I won't say more on the plot, as it may spoil your enjoyment.

[festamus]

"The Long and the Short and the Tall"

If not just for the memorable theme song. It's old fashioned black and white stuff made in 1960, but it dealt with dilemna's of war before such things became fashionable!

Basically, a British patrol capture a Japanese prisoner in the jungle. Near hysteria among some members about atrocities committed by the Japanese (for instance, the Japanese soldier has a cigarette case they believe is looted from a British soldier) cause them to want to kill the guy, while others believe that isn't right and seek to protect him.

Good old film, well acted, where the enemy is human and the "good guys" can sometimes be turned monsterous by the pressure of war and all that stuff...

But, as I said - great theme song.

[Commando Jordovski]

I think the english or the Russians today should make a movie dedicated to all them 30 million people lost that the germans slaughtered during world war two, or a fiction movie where the soviets go for world domination, that would be quite ammusing.
On other subjects.... With Enemy at the Gates , they sent out more then just them 40 or 50 men when they charged them to the germans... a mroe realistic number would be 5000.

[festamus]

That's the problem these days though. Film's seem reluctant to use casts of extras on a "full" scale. They just have a few then CGI the rest or have us believe that battles were thought with a few dozen men...

"Back in the day" on the other hand, we had films where to get the extras needed meant going for help to.... The Soviet Army! (Waterloo)

And also a lesson for modern film-makers. They used historical sources for the events and dialogue! Very little was made up for cinematic purposes! American film producers take note!

[Man of Stoat]

I think the english or the Russians today should make a movie dedicated to all them 30 million people lost that the germans slaughtered during world war two, or a fiction movie where the soviets go for world domination, that would be quite ammusing.
On other subjects.... With Enemy at the Gates , they sent out more then just them 40 or 50 men when they charged them to the germans... a mroe realistic number would be 5000.

I think that the Russians today should make a movie dedicated to all the estimated 60 million people that Soviet Union killed in forced deportations, man-made famines, in GULAG, & by execution (not including war). Not likely to happen though, is it?

Oh, this is Rummel's "best estimate" table from all the literature & stats available:

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/USSR.TAB1.1.GIF

edit to add: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE4.HTM

[Commando Jordovski]

has anyone here seen the new movie "Downfall", because i have heard it is out but wont be showing on theatres.[/list]

[Gen. Sandworm]

has anyone here seen the new movie "Downfall", because i have heard it is out but wont be showing on theatres.[/list]

Ive heard its a pretty good flick......there is a topic about it in here if you want more info. It comes out on video/dvd in the US in mid august ive heard

[Kurt Panzer Meyer]

re Leningrad

Doesn't sound like my type of film, "A powerful love story" no thanks.


Well... it can't be that bad can it?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000227/

:D [/url]

[FluffyBunnyGB]

A couple of good films IMHO:

The Conspiracy - a BBC/HBO made for TV film, but then released on DVD
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000AZVHM/qid=1124054126/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_11_1/026-4742413-1951601

It is almost all set within one room at the infamous Wanasee conference, where a number of Nazis, led by Heydrich (Kenneth Branagh) discuss the Final Solution.

The horrifying thing is that it is based on a surviving record of that meeting, and the discussions are like any modern business meeting. More concerned with efficiency and legal aspects than the fact they were planning on murdering millions of people.

Cross of Iron - the great James Coburn as Sgt Steiner

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000056QAJ/qid=1124054392/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_11_1/026-4742413-1951601

Unlike many war films of the time, the Germans are mostly portrayed as just ordinary soldiers trying to survive instead of Nazis.

I don't know how accurate it is (I wasn't there) and it's a bit more a "film" than the semi-documentary style of Conspiracy, but it's a belter none the less.

Regards

Fluffy

[CrossBones]

Salute!!

My vote is " When Trumpets Fade" and "Saving Private Ryan"

http://www.dvd-covers.net/site/c/72245.htmls.jpg

This movie shows the Battle of Hurtgen Forest...Amazing!!

[Hanz Lutz]

I dont watch this movie but loks like on poster i must he is very good .

[Man of Stoat]

When trumpets fade was an...um.... average film... And that's being nice to it.

[Commando Jordovski]

never heard of that trumpet film mate and i checked my local blockbuster and they dont seem to have it in stock or anything, is it a new one or one the movies ?

[Dani]

Check this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0135706/
and:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0783112750/103-1391035-1915849?v=glance\


Edited: And CJ, check your PM.

[Hosenfield]

i agree with stoat. there are numerous problems: fake looking uniforms, equipment, acting. the story told is one that has been told before, and better. well, except not in the hurtgen forest.

The lost battalion is a good low budget war movie, but its about ww1.

[Commando Jordovski]

i agree with stoat. there are numerous problems: fake looking uniforms, equipment, acting. the story told is one that has been told before, and better. well, except not in the hurtgen forest.

The lost battalion is a good low budget war movie, but its about ww1.

What movies that?

[Cuts]

i agree with stoat. there are numerous problems: fake looking uniforms, equipment, acting. the story told is one that has been told before, and better. well, except not in the hurtgen forest.

The lost battalion is a good low budget war movie, but its about ww1.

What movies that?

THere's a clue cunningly disguised in the writing...

[Commando Jordovski]

i agree with stoat. there are numerous problems: fake looking uniforms, equipment, acting. the story told is one that has been told before, and better. well, except not in the hurtgen forest.

The lost battalion is a good low budget war movie, but its about ww1.

What movies that?

THere's a clue cunningly disguised in the writing...

Hosenfield and i have recently been discussing on American friendly fire, you see alot of that in "The lost battatlion" i watched that movie about a year ago, its a fantastic movie but not brilliant accurate.

[PzKpfw VI Tiger]

its a fantastic movie but not brilliant accurate.

I second that. It is a good movie in all, but when it comes to historical accuracy, the movie is a flop :shock:

[Hosenfield]

thats cuz the budget was so small. If you notice , its really only about 30-40 soldiers, they just mess around with the camera angles.

[Cuts]

I third that.























For no reason.

[Sturmtruppen]

:cry:

[StalingradK]

Did anyone see "The Great Raid", yet? If so I would really like to know how good it was

[Hosenfield]

check reviews at yahoo movies. it got a C average...

[Commando Jordovski]

Anyone seen the movie "We were Soldiers" , its about Vietnam with Mel Gibson in it.
I liked the movie because you actually see two sides of the story, its not just a movie about the Americans fighting, you also see the vietnamese sides.

The only thing i didn't like about it was that you didn't really see much of any other that did help the USA in Vietnam, like australia and England, I know for a fact Australia lost quite alot of men in Vietnam and my next door neighbour is a veteran that has disturbing nightmares and flashbacks.

[Hanz Lutz]

I have that movie on DVD he is great.

[Commando Jordovski]

Another good film which was made with cheap effects but it brilliant! is
" The Lost Battalion " , its about WW1 though were the Americans are stuck in a forest fighting the Germans while being hit by friendly fire artillery constantly.

[Commando Jordovski]

I recently watched a excellent movie called "Uprising", its about the Jews in Nazi Warsaw, ghetto, and they decide to do the one things the nazis never expected....fight back.

I rate it 5 stars !!!!

[mike M.]

I would recommend " A MIDNIGHT CLEAR" Set during dec 1944, a small platoon of US soldiers make a truce with a small platoon of German soldiers to celebrate Christmas. The peace explodes into......Well you got to see it to find out the ending. 5 stars...

[FluffyBunnyGB]

Anyone seen the movie "We were Soldiers" , its about Vietnam with Mel Gibson in it.
I liked the movie because you actually see two sides of the story, its not just a movie about the Americans fighting, you also see the vietnamese sides.

The only thing i didn't like about it was that you didn't really see much of any other that did help the USA in Vietnam, like australia and England, I know for a fact Australia lost quite alot of men in Vietnam and my next door neighbour is a veteran that has disturbing nightmares and flashbacks.


We Were Soldiers is about a US unit and therefore doesn't show other nations for the same reason Saving Pte Ryan doesn't. They weren't on that battlefield in that place at that time. Specifically, there were vanishingly few Brits in Vietnam, and they don't seem to have been there officially.

For a good film showing the Aussie side of Vietnam, I suggest The Odd Angry Shot, about the Australian SAS. Features Bryan Brown and a few others I recognise from old soaps etc.

[Tsolias]

Anyone seen the movie "We were Soldiers" , its about Vietnam with Mel Gibson in it.
I liked the movie because you actually see two sides of the story, its not just a movie about the Americans fighting, you also see the vietnamese sides.

The only thing i didn't like about it was that you didn't really see much of any other that did help the USA in Vietnam, like australia and England, I know for a fact Australia lost quite alot of men in Vietnam and my next door neighbour is a veteran that has disturbing nightmares and flashbacks.

I hate that movie.
Gibson was terrible,script was full of clisee,what a waste of time :x

[Cuts]

I hate that movie.
Gibson was terrible,script was full of clisee,what a waste of time :x

Mel Gibson is to acting what Harold Shipman was to geriatric care.

[Tsolias]

Mel Gibson is to acting what Harold Shipman was to geriatric care.

Again very well putted.

[bonazaz]

Does anyone of you mates know how to download a video file from www.putfile.com?
Is it possible in the first place?
Cheers!

[Piotr]

Well, so far you guys hit on almost every WWII movie available! Most of them are my favorite. My input:
1. If you want to see a really depressing but very realistic view of war see Il Postino ( I think that's right; the same actor played in another Italian movie where he pretended to be a mobster. I get these movie titles confused).
2. Instead of yet another movie about uprising in Warsaw Ghetto (albeit it was very heroic) see an old ( 1950's) Polish movie about the general Warsaw uprising called "Kanal" (Canal) . I think I saw it on Amazon.com with English subtitles).
3. 633 Squadron with Cliff Robertson. Although the special effects are not that great, this is the last movie showing flyable Mosquitos and the scene that inspired Lucas to film the "trench attack" in Star Wars.
4. I concur with "Dam Busters" but beware, Amazon.com has a horrid 2001 remake (in color). You want the 1956 original.
5. For the flying scenes and the comical relief see "Catch 22", "Sea Wolfs" and "Escape on Athena"
6. I still claim that the three best WWII movies to "Battle of Britain", "Tora, Tora, Tora," and "Battle of Midway.
7. For a pacifist in you see "Hell in the Pacific"