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FW-190 Pilot
02-22-2005, 06:03 PM
Russian T-34 tank is not the most powerful tank in the war, since it doesnt have radio, and its cannon is not as powerful as the german most powerful tank (tiger series), the advantage this tank can enjoy over the german tank is the number of tank, in every 1 tank germany can produce, russia produce 5, plus germany has build tanks using materials that is rare in Germany. Moreover, Russia T-34 is build for extremely cold weather, thats why their engine is using disel fuel.

i dont know much about Joseph Stalin tank, but is that possible those tanks are use in the korean war, perhaps the T-34/85 too?
thanks for answering
(more info about T-34/85 and JS tank are welcome)

FW-190 Pilot
02-24-2005, 01:24 PM
here is one good pic of T-34 tank
http://img65.exs.cx/img65/7287/dscn03650yf.th.jpg (http://img65.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img65&image=dscn03650yf.jpg)
KV-85 tank
http://img59.exs.cx/img59/4807/dscn03727mu.th.jpg (http://img59.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img59&image=dscn03727mu.jpg)

lieutlienant Vorontsov
03-09-2005, 12:36 PM
Russian T-34 its powerful tank!

lieutlienant Vorontsov
03-09-2005, 12:38 PM
If you want to know more about Russian T-34 just say me!

Gen. Sandworm
03-09-2005, 01:44 PM
Best thing about the T-34 is the simplicity of the design. Easy to mass produce as well. Which is exactly what the russians needed. Its the AK-47 of WW2 tanks.

lieutlienant Vorontsov
03-09-2005, 11:29 PM
Gen. Sandworm you writre!

FW-190 Pilot
03-10-2005, 01:03 AM
If you want to know more about Russian T-34 just say me!
sure i love to know more, thanks

lieutlienant Vorontsov
03-10-2005, 10:15 AM
FW-190 Pilot can you wait?

FW-190 Pilot
03-13-2005, 11:22 PM
FW-190 Pilot can you wait?
no, can you do that asap, thanks:D

Stalingrad
03-14-2005, 01:52 AM
FW-190 Pilot can you wait?
no, can you do that asap, thanks:D

http://armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/WWII/IS2/
http://zorka.boom.ru/stk/is.htm
Sorry, but all Russian Language......
Ich kann etwas auf Deutsch erzahlen :D

FW-190 Pilot
03-14-2005, 02:27 PM
the pic itself is very good:D
but some of the tanks are not slope armour?

South African Military
03-15-2005, 04:58 AM
most look pretty sloppy to me. Exept for one, but that might just be the way the sun hit it.

good pics.

Stalingrad
03-15-2005, 07:03 AM
Sieh aufmerksam!

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ru_en&url=http://redtanks.bos.ru/js2.htm

Good Site! All english!

South African Military
03-16-2005, 02:45 AM
nice.

Sturmtruppen
04-13-2005, 01:51 PM
Russian thanks were very thoughts! (thought means powerfull,no?) I think this tank haven`t got lots of technology,but all russian tanks were robusts (big,and armoureds).

but I think the best russian units were the snipers! :wink:

Komissar Ombrok
04-14-2005, 01:18 AM
Russia had a lot of hunters, so snipers was good, but really best snipers of ww2 was a Finnish snipers.

FW-190 Pilot
04-18-2005, 06:33 PM
i quote myself
would that be possible that JS tank are used during korean war

Komissar Ombrok
04-19-2005, 01:21 AM
Yep. JS-2 and JS-3, was used in Korean War and a lots of modern Soviet Weaponry. Stalin made excellent supply for Kim Ir Sen and "chinesse volontiers" - group of elite Russian officers who were a pilots and commanders of tank groups.

vad
06-05-2005, 03:40 PM
Russian T-34 tank is not the most powerful tank in the war, since it doesnt have radio,
>>Why do resolve so? tank t-34 have radio and good armo/ You mix up this tank with early sovit tanks http://battlefield.ru/t34_76_4.html. furthermore the german tiger tank is a result working German designers after analyses captured Soviet tank, and Tiger was constructed after 1943 year.
But russian designers after increase the caliber of gun t-34 (t-34-85) and tiger tank losed its advantages
http://battlefield.ru/misc/destroyed/germany/king_05.jpg
http://battlefield.ru/misc/destroyed/germany/tiger_02.jpg

FW-190 Pilot
06-06-2005, 03:51 PM
thanks for the info, vad, but your link does not work:(

Sturmtruppen
06-06-2005, 04:07 PM
try this: http://battlefield.ru/t34_76_4.html :wink: ,the link had a point,you must remove it.

T-34s_Are_Cool
07-01-2005, 10:32 AM
Russian T-34 tank is not the most powerful tank in the war, since it doesnt have radio, and its cannon is not as powerful as the german most powerful tank (tiger series), the advantage this tank can enjoy over the german tank is the number of tank, in every 1 tank germany can produce, russia produce 5, plus germany has build tanks using materials that is rare in Germany. Moreover, Russia T-34 is build for extremely cold weather, thats why their engine is using disel fuel.

i dont know much about Joseph Stalin tank, but is that possible those tanks are use in the korean war, perhaps the T-34/85 too?
thanks for answering
(more info about T-34/85 and JS tank are welcome)

Dani
07-01-2005, 01:22 PM
More info on JS tanks you could find on http://www.battlefield.ru/is2_1.html

Dani
07-01-2005, 02:41 PM
And check this: http://www.davidpride.com/Israeli_Armor/IL_Armor183.htm
IDF (Israeli Defence Force) Armored Corps Museum displays a JS3 tank (captured from Egypt) during the war in .....1967 :D

zerkalli
07-02-2005, 02:56 PM
"Very worrying", Colonel-General Heinz Guderian, Commander of Second Panzer Army.

"We had nothing comparable", Major-General F.W. Mellenthin, Chief of Staff of XLVIII Panzer Corps.

"The finest tank in the world", Field-Marshal Ewald von Kleist, First Panzer Army.

"This tank (T-34) adversely affected the morale of the German infantry", General G. Blumentritt.

T-34 Tank - The T-34 tank is considered by many experts to be the best designed tank of the war. It gave the German Army a nasty surprise when it was first introduced in 1941 because it was much better than the German Tanks. It was fast, had a powerful gun, sloped armor and was mass produced.

T-34/85

www.battlefield.ru/t34_85_2.html
www.thetankmaster.com/english/afv/t34_85_1.asp
http://pkka.narod.ru/t-34-85.htm
http://pedg.org/panzer/public/website/t34.htm
www.battletanks.com/t34_85.htm
www.onwar.com/tanks/ussr/ft3485m44.htm
www.wwiitanks.co.uk/indexes/USSR-T34.html
http://www.saunalahti.fi/veijju/tankit/tank6.html

IS 3

www.battlefield.ru/is3.html
www.thetankmaster.com/english/afv/is3m_01k.asp
www.battletanks.com/js_iii.htm
www.wwiitanks.co.uk/indexes/USSR-IS.html

DOGolden
07-02-2005, 03:23 PM
No doubt the T-34 was probably the best mass produced tank of WWII. However, the chassis was designed by _____ Christie (forgot his first name) who was an American.

The Germans referred to the T-34 as the 'snow leopard' because it's wide tracks permitted the T-34 to go just about anywhere, including mud, ice, & snow. The armor of the tank was thick & sloped. However, the early production T-34's couldn't penetrate the armor of the German tanks.

The T-34 had a diesel engine which was reliable, easliy manufactured, & maintained as well. Plus, diesel was cheaper to produce than gasoline, & diesel freezes at a much lower temperature than gas tanks. During the batlle of Stalingrad the T-34's diesel engine would actually turn over in the freezing temperatures, while the Germans couldn't get their gas engined tanks to crank (I think the roadwheels were made of aluminum or manganese(?) which helped reduce the weight of the tank).

The Panther was developed because of the T-34. During the battle of Kursk Hitler ordered the Panthers deployed knowing full well that they hadn't worked out all of the bugs. I think the Germans may have lost more Panthers during this battle due to maintenance issues vs. battlefield losses.

Interesting side note, during WWII the US sent the Russians thousands of trucks on the Lend Lease act. While this may seem trivial, the factories that the Russians had that were making trucks were now freed up to make...tanks. Also, we sent them thousands of Sherman tanks. The Shermans were no match for the German tanks & the Russians quickly pulled them back for training & familiarization.

Simply put, the Russians may make crude looking & loose fitting miitary equipment, but whatever they field you can rest assured works in the harshest of environments.

T-34 - best battle field tank of WWII? Probably. Cheap to produce. Cheap to repair. Cheap to fuel. And they were everywhere. How could they go wrong?

the DOG

South African Military
07-03-2005, 05:17 AM
I would say that the T-34 was the best medium tank during WW2.

Comrade_TS
07-03-2005, 07:40 AM
Russian T-34 its powerful tank!

Русский T-34/85 резервуар не был то, что мощный, но это была достаточная сила, чтобы выдвинуть немецкую возможность защиты
*Russian T-34/85 the tank was not that powerful, but it there was a sufficient force to put forward a German opportunity of protection* In English.

pdf27
07-03-2005, 01:46 PM
Interesting side note, during WWII the US sent the Russians thousands of trucks on the Lend Lease act. While this may seem trivial, the factories that the Russians had that were making trucks were now freed up to make...tanks.
It also radically improved the Russian logistic system, as from memory the US trucks were better designed and more reliable than the Russian trucks of the time.
Allegedly (I don't have a proper source on this - it's secondhand off another forum, but the guy is usually right) the Russian frontline soldiers thought the "GMC" on the front of the trucks stood for "Kill More Germans". A sentiment which in the circumstances I thoroughly agree with.

Walther
07-03-2005, 01:54 PM
Actually the only homebuilt truck of the Soviets was a 1920s Ford model, of which the Sovietunion bought the factory after it was considered obsolete in the US.Another thing is: Most lend lease trucks shipped to the Sovietunion were Studebakers, Dodge WC51s and jeeps. The idea was to keep the number of brands small to facilitate logistics and supply of spare parts. Most second generation trucks built in Russia in the 1950s look very much like the wartime Studebakers.

Jan

Firefly
07-04-2005, 08:52 AM
Yes, I have just looked for the figures something like 500,000 vehicles that the Soviets did not have to build for themselves. What would have happened without all them I wonder?

DOGolden
07-04-2005, 05:31 PM
Quite possibly the war would've been prolonged by a few years! Certainly fewer T34's would've been produced. And fewer materiels would've been pushed to the front. The Russians would've have been able to mass muntions & personnel to the front either...

the DOG