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tankgeezer
12-24-2016, 09:25 AM
A very Merry Christmas, and New Year to all of our Members, everywhere. And also to those who serve in Foreign Lands far from home, and Family.

Nickdfresh
12-24-2016, 12:05 PM
Merry Christmas to you as well...

Chevan
12-26-2016, 10:50 AM
Mery christmass seems to me is religious celebration. Are you that much religiuos, friends or this is just tradition?

tankgeezer
12-26-2016, 11:13 AM
It's some of Both for most Christian Americans, to some it is a very Holy day, to others merely a tradition of gift giving, and family gatherings, but having no particular Religious significance. Your Country has Sviatyi Vechir, (Holy Evening) Which usually (IIRC) includes a special large meal, and singing of Caroles (Koliadky )
I dont know if this was the way of Ukraine before 1917, or if it continued after, but it sounds like it was an important part of Christmas. And, lets not forget Grandfather Frost. (I know, I look like him. ) :) I wish you a very peaceful, safe, and prosperous New Year friend Chevan !

Chevan
12-26-2016, 12:07 PM
It's some of Both for most Christian Americans, to some it is a very Holy day, to others merely a tradition of gift giving, and family gatherings, but having no particular Religious significance. Your Country has Sviatyi Vechir, (Holy Evening) Which usually (IIRC) includes a special large meal, and singing of Caroles (Koliadky )
I dont know if this was the way of Ukraine before 1917, or if it continued after, but it sounds like it was an important part of Christmas. And, lets not forget Grandfather Frost. (I know, I look like him. ) :) I wish you a very peaceful, safe, and prosperous New Year friend Chevan !
That's great, dear friend TG! Very nice to hear the warm words form you. And yes, you looks much like model Grandfather frost in your last public photo , i remember;))))) Yet i m very impressed - you know about Koliadki. It was very popular before 1917 but now is dying event. Plus i'm very critical about Ortodox church - as about any religia as well. Newertheless i glad to any incoming holidays, and possibilities to congratulate all of you , guys with happy days, whatever it is..

Rising Sun*
12-27-2016, 05:41 AM
A belated Merry Xmas to all.

But I'll get in early with A Happy New Year. :D

Rising Sun*
12-27-2016, 06:02 AM
Mery christmass seems to me is religious celebration. Are you that much religiuos, friends or this is just tradition?

Mate, it's a major commercial enterprise. Many large and small retail businesses here make their main profit at Xmas.

Christ went out of Christmas a long time ago, possibly starting about the time that Coca Cola invented the modern and now standard image of Santa Claus. http://www.coca-colacompany.com/stories/coke-lore-santa-claus

Down here, it's a religious event for the minority of our population who are serious Christians. For the rest it's more about an end of year celebration focused on getting together with family and friends without any religious content. It's enjoyed by plenty of people who aren't Christians, notably many Muslims who join in the getting together with family and friends.

Go to some Muslim dominated countries such as Malaysia and you'll find that their retail stores are happily getting into the swing of making money at Xmas. (BTW, contrary to ill informed people who think that X rather Christ is insulting, the X for Christ has been used for centuries by religious people, as in letters and notes I've had from Catholic priests here who signed "Yours in X').

There are, of course, hardliners in Muslim countries who oppose Xmas and even Santa hats. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/23/world/asia/indonesia-fatwa-christmas.html?_r=0

tankgeezer
12-27-2016, 08:36 AM
That's great, dear friend TG! Very nice to hear the warm words form you. And yes, you looks much like model Grandfather frost in your last public photo , i remember;))))) Yet i m very impressed - you know about Koliadki. It was very popular before 1917 but now is dying event. Plus i'm very critical about Ortodox church - as about any religia as well. Newertheless i glad to any incoming holidays, and possibilities to congratulate all of you , guys with happy days, whatever it is..

Thank you very much old Friend, On the New Year, I will tip a toast to you, and all my Friends here, and around the world. (that may be a lot of Toasts. ) ;) :)

tankgeezer
12-27-2016, 08:40 AM
A belated Merry Xmas to all.

But I'll get in early with A Happy New Year. :D
I'll add my Happy's to that,,

Churchill
12-27-2016, 11:55 PM
Happy day after Boxing day! Computer wasn't working correctly, so I'm a bit late.

Chevan
12-28-2016, 10:49 AM
Mate, it's a major commercial enterprise. Many large and small retail businesses here make their main profit at Xmas.

As i guessed - the Xmass is a pure marketing;))

Rising Sun*
12-29-2016, 05:02 AM
As i guessed - the Xmass is a pure marketing;))

Which is why it never took off in communist countries. ;) :D

Marketing requires individual enterprise instead of central control by a bureaucracy committed to making sure that nobody has any fun. ;) :D

Seriously, there are three aspects to Xmas in the West.

1. The commercial exercise where businesses engage energetically in the basic capitalist tactic of trying to separate people from their money. That is the marketing aspect.

2. The real Xmas experienced by many people, which is about family for those who have family and, often, charity for those who don't. And various traditions, such as it being the only time soldiers in our army are served lunch by their senior NCOs and officers.

3. The Xmas experienced by people like me, who see it as a pain in the arse because it requires us to engage in 1. and 2. above and pretend we actually give a shit.

flamethrowerguy
12-31-2016, 07:02 AM
Just in time to wish a happy New Year to everyone!

navyson
12-31-2016, 07:06 AM
I hope everyone had a merry Christmas. And my hope is for everyone to have a blessed and happy New Year!

tankgeezer
12-31-2016, 10:23 AM
A Safe, and Happy New Year to all of us, Imbibe, and Feast well !

tankgeezer
12-31-2016, 10:27 AM
Happy day after Boxing day! Computer wasn't working correctly, so I'm a bit late.

No Matter Churchill, any time is a good time. :)

Nickdfresh
12-31-2016, 05:37 PM
Just in time to wish a happy New Year to everyone!

Good to see you, flamethrower...

Nickdfresh
12-31-2016, 05:38 PM
Everyone have a Happy New Year...

tankgeezer
01-01-2017, 10:07 AM
Did indeed Nick, at Midnight, the fireworks were going off like it was a Firefight, very enjoyable. I usually stay in on New Years, watched Jackie Chan Movies... :)
I hope everyone survived the night well, and not too many hangovers.. ;) :)

Nickdfresh
01-01-2017, 11:44 AM
No hangovers thankfully, usually spend New Years at home pacing myself with beer...

Chevan
01-02-2017, 02:55 AM
...The Xmas experienced by people like me, who see it as a pain in the arse because it requires us to engage in 1. and 2. above and pretend we actually give a shit.
This is coz you are married - the Xmass is turned to you into boring bustle. The adequate people like Nick or TG just spend xmass easy , alone with alcohol;) Seems this is the best way to celebrate the New Year !

Rising Sun*
01-02-2017, 04:52 AM
This is coz you are married - the Xmass is turned to you into boring bustle. The adequate people like Nick or TG just spend xmass easy , alone with alcohol;) Seems this is the best way to celebrate the New Year !

Mate, it is precisely because I am married that I, too, spend Xmas alone with alcohol. It's what keeps my wife and me together. ;) :D

Nickdfresh
01-03-2017, 05:12 AM
Mate, it is precisely because I am married that I, too, spend Xmas alone with alcohol. It's what keeps my wife and me together. ;) :D

LMFAO! :mrgreen:

Nickdfresh
01-03-2017, 05:26 AM
This is coz you are married - the Xmass is turned to you into boring bustle. The adequate people like Nick or TG just spend xmass easy , alone with alcohol;) Seems this is the best way to celebrate the New Year !

Who said I was alone?

tankgeezer
01-03-2017, 08:37 AM
This is coz you are married - the Xmass is turned to you into boring bustle. The adequate people like Nick or TG just spend xmass easy , alone with alcohol;) Seems this is the best way to celebrate the New Year !

That's funny Chevan :) I spend the Holy Evening with My Brothers, and as many of the family as can be near enough to attend. (there are a lot of them) I leave the drinking of alcohol to the younger ones. (somebody has to keep an eye on them ) :) On New Years I visit my Kids, and spend the evening with them. and on such a grand occasion, I will tip a half dram of Whisky to Toast the New Year. ( I used up all of my drinking capacity while in the Army ) :) ;)

Chevan
01-03-2017, 10:27 AM
Mate, it is precisely because I am married that I, too, spend Xmas alone with alcohol. It's what keeps my wife and me together. ;) :D
;):mrgreen: It was the best of you..

Chevan
01-03-2017, 10:31 AM
Who said I was alone?

Me said;) And how else we should learn the details how you has meet the New Year from conspirated you;)?

Chevan
01-03-2017, 10:38 AM
on such a grand occasion, I will tip a half dram of Whisky to Toast the New Year. ( I used up all of my drinking capacity while in the Army ) :) ;)
I'm sure if you know your personal doze - is the guaranty of wealth! That's why you are so good looking and well saved In my army , i usially tip a half of litler before 12 o'clock 31 december - hopefully this way of drinking took only two years of my life in army;)