View Full Version : "Hunting" outrage in Zimbabwe.

07-29-2015, 06:34 AM
:evil: American fool with form kills iconic Zimbabwean lion "Cecil" with crossbow, having employed local "guides" (read poachers) to lure him out of a game reserve. The idiot could not even kill the animal outright; he had to track the poor, semi-domesticated fellow for 16 hours before finishing him off. Of course, Mr Palmer will escape penalty; he is safely back in, I believe, Minneapolis, and beyond the effective reach of Zimbabwe law. His accomplices are being pursued by Zimbabwe police, and may (probably will) end up in prison. Proper order, up to a point ...

Southern African states generally allow limited hunting of lions under license. The conditions attaching to such hunting including a very hefty fee, and direction towards killing lions who are too old or sick to contribute to the maintenance of their population. I recognize the economic importance of this activity for these countries. But can this work ? There are instances of "licensed" hunters killing seriously threatened species such as White Rhino - which is never licensed. In this case, the poor lion was not just a national icon; he carried a prominent radio collar, indicating that he was the subject of official research (and which enabled his dumbass killer to track him by GPS). I have no particular moral objection to hunting (in his youth, my brother pursued the fox in a southern Irish hunt, at least as long as he could stay on his horse). I do wonder, however, whether hunting of more-or-less endangered species in Africa by wealthy Western idiots can be regulated effectively in the interests of the species concerned, whatever about the economic interests of locals involved in the process. In anger, JR.

07-29-2015, 06:50 AM
Slight correction and elaboration - the trophy-hunting fool Palmer is, apparently a dentist from Minnesota. He favors the bow, rather than the crossbow (a method distinctly less likely to achieve a clean kill on a large animal). He has a previous conviction in the States for the illegal killing of a brown bear, for which he was heavily fined and sentenced to a sentence of one years imprisonment, commuted to probation. This latest outrage has resulted in an Internet-wide ... shall we say, negative comment. It would be nice to think that he will be conducting fewer overpriced root canal treatments in the future ... JR.

07-29-2015, 07:00 AM
From what I have seen on the local news, the man is a Dentist, and his practice has been closed as he has been stretched on the rack of public opinion, being roundly vilified by one and all in the professional review sections of internet sites. I find hunting for any reason beyond sustenance or needed protection to be distasteful, so he will get no sympathy from me. I think that a sentence of several years of shovel duty at a local Zoo will be appropriate.
On the evening news, it was reported that the hunter may face Poaching charges, but there was no mention of in which Venue. Although as I said the practice of Trophy hunting to be distasteful, not all of the blame can be laid upon the hunter's shoulders. The Nation of Zimbabwe also bears a measure of guilt in that they allow such hunting to begin with, and cannot seem to place adequate control on those who oversee, and administer the licensing, and permitting of these hunts.

Rising Sun*
07-29-2015, 07:07 AM
He favors the bow, rather than the crossbow (a method distinctly less likely to achieve a clean kill on a large animal).

Depends upon how you define "large animal".

"Mad Jack" Churchill recorded the last longbow kill of an enemy human in WWII.


BTW, his sword wasn't a claymore but a basket hilt Scottish broadsword.

Among his many endearing actions and statements is his comment on learning of the atomic bombing of Japan "If it wasn’t for those damn Yanks, we could have kept the war going another ten years."

07-30-2015, 01:55 PM
The sad thing in all of this is that the killing of Large African Animals goes on day in, day out, carried out by criminal poaching gangs, but the news media seldom highlight these crimes. Though that seems to be changing (albeit slowly) This dentist may be just what he says, a victim of corrupt guides. (no comment as to his moral compass) He may be in on it, hard to tell at this point. The upshot to all of this is that maybe the Countries that presently license such hunting may move to legislate against it, which will then leave only corrupt bureaucrats, and officials and criminal poachers to deal with.
Too bad Mad Jack isn't able to assist groups like those Craig Sawyer works with to protect the wildlife, and capture the crims.