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richard1962
05-25-2012, 01:12 PM
Hi Im trying to find out imformation on my father who was in possibly the Ukrainian SS, I was only told about this after his death four years ago.
My question is that is there an easy way to find out if he was SS although my mother assures me that he was the only bit im uncertain about is what division he was in. In one of his books called Hitlers Legions he has underlined SS Major General Fritz Freitag who commanded the 14th Grenadier Division ( Galizische#1 ).
My Father was born in the Ukraine in 1922 in Przemysl which is also Polish all very confusing to me but looking at old maps it does look like he was born in the western Ukraine if anyone can help me I would be gratefull

Chevan
05-26-2012, 03:10 AM
Hi richard.
The Przemyśl were Ukrainain only in sort period of 1939-41. Beeing the part of Poland the most other time.After ww2 it has been passed to Poland again.The ukraianins were the essential population of city but have been almost totally deported out in 1947( operation Vistula) becouse of the sadly known ethnic conflicts with poles.
As for the fate of your father , it's almost impossible to say anything concrete about him unless you know the details like number of regiment or at least the battles he fought.

Chevan
05-26-2012, 03:17 AM
Here is the collection of photos (http://retro.babr.ru/?event=photo&grub=army&grzd=ii_war&gsrzd=ss_gal&IDE=14ss12) of 14 waffenss-division Galicia

richard1962
05-26-2012, 04:45 AM
Hi richard.
The Przemyśl were Ukrainain only in sort period of 1939-41. Beeing the part of Poland the most other time.After ww2 it has been passed to Poland again.The ukraianins were the essential population of city but have been almost totally deported out in 1947( operation Vistula) becouse of the sadly known ethnic conflicts with poles.
As for the fate of your father , it's almost impossible to say anything concrete about him unless you know the details like number of regiment or at least the battles he fought.

My Father died about 5 years ago never talking of the war with me, His birth cert states that he was Ukrainian at birth but when he came over to England it was as a displaced person,around 1955 he was given the option of taking a Russian or Polish nationality so chose Polish as he would never be seen as Russian, My brothers tell me that he fought in the siege of Narva where they were surrounded for six months and then fought in Lithuania and Latvia I was also told that he was part of a team who went hunting for russian partizans in woods in the areas just mentioned.
A story told to me over the years concerned my grandad who decided to kill one of his own pigs to feed his family, when the russians found out he was sent to prison for 6 months hard labour
I notice that you say at the beguinning that Przemysl was only Ukrainian for a short time 1939-41 although dad was born in 1922 and clearly stated on birth cert Ukrainian also his religon was if I get this right Russian Greek orthodox catholic it might be slightly incorrect because I do not have his birth cert in front of me.
I only wish he would have spoke of the war with me to give me some idea but I was always kept out of the conversations

Chevan
05-26-2012, 11:16 AM
I only wish he would have spoke of the war with me to give me some idea but I was always kept out of the conversations
Sad, sad. We often don't apreciate what we have until it's too late.
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Egorka
06-01-2012, 10:38 AM
Hi richard.
The Przemyśl were Ukrainain only in sort period of 1939-41. Beeing the part of Poland the most other time.After ww2 it has been passed to Poland again.The ukraianins were the essential population of city but have been almost totally deported out in 1947( operation Vistula) becouse of the sadly known ethnic conflicts with poles.
As for the fate of your father , it's almost impossible to say anything concrete about him unless you know the details like number of regiment or at least the battles he fought.
Przemyś had app. only half of its population Polish in 1921. The rest were predominantly Ukrainians. So no wonder here.

Chevan
06-01-2012, 12:52 PM
ja ja, Herr Kommissar;)

Egorka
06-01-2012, 03:13 PM
I mean it seriously. Don't you believe me?
I have harrrd evidence for prrrroof. ;)

Chevan
06-02-2012, 08:12 AM
I have harrrd evidence for prrrroof. ;)
don't doubt it.Will no wonder if you again post an top-secret nkvd's papers for proof:)

Egorka
06-02-2012, 10:24 AM
don't doubt it.Will no wonder if you again post an top-secret nkvd's papers for proof:)
No, this time it's enough to use secret American maps.
Przemyśl was located in the Lwow area, where app. half of population is Non-Polish.
The town lays roughly 1/3 way from Lwow (mark L on map) and Krakow (mark K on map).
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/179/470336374_b305ea9f44_o.jpg

Chevan
06-02-2012, 11:44 AM
No, this time it's enough to use secret American maps.

whom you work for , dude?:)

Egorka
06-02-2012, 01:07 PM
whom you work for , dude?:)
For Google. :D

pdf27
06-02-2012, 06:00 PM
For Google. :DGoogle is actually a secret American conspiracy to get rid of the KGB by making it so easy to get information that they never leave their offices to do something nefarious ;)

Chevan
06-03-2012, 01:08 AM
Google is actually a secret American conspiracy to get rid of the KGB by making it so easy to get information that they never leave their offices to do something nefarious ;)
But problem ,he never posted anything nasty about KGB!;)

Egorka
06-03-2012, 02:56 PM
Google is actually a secret American conspiracy to get rid of the KGB by making it so easy to get information that they never leave their offices to do something nefarious ;)
Hey, that is still a classified information! Please, remain seated and don't leave the premises.

Egorka
06-03-2012, 02:58 PM
But problem ,he never posted anything nasty about KGB!;)
KGB is bad! Bad! Very bad! Very-very-very bad!

Feel better now? :)

JR*
06-05-2012, 07:00 AM
Mention of the KGB reminds me of happier working days, when I was, in effect, Little Ireland's national official expert on copyright (we must have been desperate ...). At the time, Russia was not exactly viewed as a paragon of compliance with intellectual property law (the old USSR hardly had any). In any event, somebody I knew professionally - can't remember in what capacity - visited a large market in Moscow where, it was rumoured, one could obtain just about any pirated and/or bootlegged copyright material. Much to his surprise, he was offered a set of disks that was alleged to contain a complete and accurate listing of all telephone numbers in the Moscow region - something he had not thought existed. When pressed to disclose where he had obtained this material, the vendor answered along the lines that it came from an organisation that knew where everybody in Moscow lived ... Yours from the Gulag, JR.

Chevan
06-06-2012, 02:18 AM
When pressed to disclose where he had obtained this material, the vendor answered along the lines that it came from an organisation that knew where everybody in Moscow lived ... Yours from the Gulag, JR.
Not ONLY KGB might to know who and where lives. Currently the hackers could obtain faster and more detailed information about person from a hacked social networks then those retarded special-services.I was puzzled not so long time ago- why many of our friends here fear to show their personal photos in our forum. As it turned out to be , the manies westerners wish not to share their photos and pesronal datas over internet coz it migt be used against them by their countrymans.This phenomenon of social phobia is common for the west. So Gulag might be closer then it seems.:)
Cheers.