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Chevan
08-09-2010, 07:30 AM
You all know , guyes, i'm proud owner of Lada.
Germans are advocating, the Lada is better then Hummer:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUHHANKAOQo&feature=related

Rising Sun*
08-09-2010, 08:20 AM
You all know , guyes, i'm proud owner of Lada.

As you should be.

It takes an enormous amount of power to get a car's front wheels off the ground.

Here is a video sent to me by an annoyed neighbour of yours.

Apparently this is how you go to work each morning. ;) :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMN4C5_ExtY

tankgeezer
08-09-2010, 08:54 AM
Hummer 2 is nothing like the H-1. just a poor cosmetic rendering of one. its really just a pick up truck chassis with a fairly ugly body on it. The H3 is the same, differing only in that it uses the chassis of an S-10 (small) pickup truck. These are a pure waste of money. The clip shows what the H-2 wishes it were.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b5Qh0JGwqw

Rising Sun*
08-09-2010, 09:09 AM
Hummer 2 is nothing like the H-1. just a poor cosmetic rendering of one. its really just a pick up truck chassis with a fairly ugly body on it. The H3 is the same, differing only in that it uses the chassis of an S-10 (small) pickup truck. These are a pure waste of money. The clip shows what the H-2 wishes it were.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b5Qh0JGwqw

Why any civilian wants a Hummer of any sort is beyond me.

They make a Land Rover look refined. And possibly even slightly reliable.

tankgeezer
08-09-2010, 11:19 AM
People would do much better in the truck this thing is built on, and for far less money.( even though they may have to do without the Ermine cup holders....)

Chevan
08-09-2010, 11:19 PM
People would do much better in the truck this thing is built on, and for far less money.( even though they may have to do without the Ermine cup holders....)
How to drive to work each morning without Ermine cup holders and V8?:)

tankgeezer
08-10-2010, 06:38 AM
How to drive to work each morning without Ermine cup holders and V8?:)

Oh, you get the V-8 engine,just have to deal with no ermine cup holders, fewer video screens, and six way, instead of 12 way electric adjustable seats. (but they would still be heated). :)

Nickdfresh
08-10-2010, 09:10 AM
Why any civilian wants a Hummer of any sort is beyond me.

They make a Land Rover look refined. And possibly even slightly reliable.

I know an unfortunate soul who thought he was posh buying a Hummer 2, thing's nothing but junk wearing out the road back to the dealership service area...

Rising Sun*
08-10-2010, 09:25 AM
I know an unfortunate soul who thought he was posh buying a Hummer 2, thing's nothing but junk wearing out the road back to the dealership service area...

You cannot begin to imagine how much that pleases me.

Schadenfreude is good. ;) :D

Rising Sun*
08-10-2010, 09:40 AM
P.S.

Germany has contributed much to the world, including Clausewitz, Goethe, Schiller, Kant, Nietsche, Heidegger, Hegel, Wagner, Durer, Holbein, Gropius, Riefenstahl, Fassbinder, Wenders, Luther, Bonhoeffer, and so on, but nothing ranks with Germany's contribution of the word for which there is no English equivalent and which gives us so much guilty pleasure: Schadenfreude.

Nickdfresh
08-10-2010, 08:10 PM
You cannot begin to imagine how much that pleases me.

Schadenfreude is good. ;) :D

Personally, I really tend to not like SUVs, but the H2 is nothing but junk and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. That's why GM sold it to the Chinese. :)

tankgeezer
08-10-2010, 10:13 PM
The Chinese were already selling a copy of the H-2, the sale just made it legal...good luck to them...

Chevan
08-10-2010, 11:48 PM
Personally, I really tend to not like SUVs, but the H2 is nothing but junk and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. That's why GM sold it to the Chinese. :)
Russia has a park of Hummers ( all of models) up to 5000. And some of rich still want to buy this monster.They seems aren't afraid ot its fuel "economy" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummer_H2#Fuel_economy)
So China obviously would has found a market for their unregistered "copies" of Hummers:)

Uyraell
08-11-2010, 01:20 AM
The Chinese were already selling a copy of the H-2, the sale just made it legal...good luck to them...

Considering the H2 is just a RangeRover in drag, it's no wonder the Chinese are trying to knockoff copies of the thing, legitimate or otherwise. The SmartforTwo copy was proof enough of that.

I'd own an H1 for the sake of interest. But after that, the Hummer fell into banal-crap territory from which it will likely never emerge.
There *is* a Russian-built vehicle very similar to an H1, called "Tigr" if I recall correctly.
It is a very solid, reliable looking vehicle.

As for Lada Niva: the most interesting one of those I have ever seen is somewhere on "English-Russia" Site::
Some brilliant spark turned the thing into a Russian StrijdsVagn/SnoCat, and did a damn fine job of it.
The vehicle has the look of a T40 chassis with the Lada body atop it.

Kind and Respectful Regards Gentlemen, Uyraell.

tankgeezer
08-11-2010, 01:00 PM
The H-1 is a great machine, but became too expensive to be a good seller. (except to the military,in its own version) All the other H's were just cobbled up to have a place to staple the name. Personally, I have always found the name to be suspect, like the Toyota TRD series of trucks. (appearantly, the Japanese don't know about the Anglo American penchant for making words out of acronyms.)

Chevan
08-12-2010, 01:14 AM
I'd own an H1 for the sake of interest. But after that, the Hummer fell into banal-crap territory from which it will likely never emerge.
There *is* a Russian-built vehicle very similar to an H1, called "Tigr" if I recall correctly.
It is a very solid, reliable looking vehicle.

The same super expensive car, my friend:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-I-9KXFob8
The civil modification costs 100-120 k$( this is equal of 20-30 UAZs)
The GAZ has developed the "american analog" of H1 for Russian Army. Sad, that forgot the Russian army is a destitute army..


As for Lada Niva: the most interesting one of those I have ever seen is somewhere on "English-Russia" Site::
Some brilliant spark turned the thing into a Russian StrijdsVagn/SnoCat, and did a damn fine job of it.
The vehicle has the look of a T40 chassis with the Lada body atop it.

Mate , you haven't seen like Lada can ..swim?:)
The GErmans didn't include the swimmin test on their video. But you may compare.
Hummer1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stm6kyXmmsw&feature=related
Just childish:)
and NIVA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4kWYvH0_oY
:D
BTW this was the way the Soviet Army planned to invide the Australia and NZ:mrgreen:

Chevan
08-12-2010, 01:25 AM
And Lada can ...fly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZSgNMO7nU4&feature=related
:mrgreen:

Rising Sun*
08-12-2010, 07:53 AM
Lada Niva not subject to laws of gravity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62-SdzL0ISU&feature=related

Uyraell
08-13-2010, 04:27 AM
The same super expensive car, my friend:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-I-9KXFob8
The civil modification costs 100-120 k$( this is equal of 20-30 UAZs)
The GAZ has developed the "american analog" of H1 for Russian Army. Sad, that forgot the Russian army is a destitute army..

Mate , you haven't seen like Lada can ..swim?:)
The GErmans didn't include the swimmin test on their video. But you may compare.
Hummer1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stm6kyXmmsw&feature=related
Just childish:)
and NIVA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4kWYvH0_oY
:D
BTW this was the way the Soviet Army planned to invide the Australia and NZ:mrgreen:

I'd gladly own one of the Tigr vehicles as well, mate.
It seems to be a very capable vehicle, and solidly reliable.

As for Ladas in Australia and NZ: Don't worry: they did invade, and though in small numbers, rather successfully.
Though in some motoring circles they were looked-down upon, in fact they were rather more reliable at the time than many of the vehicles coming out of the UK, which were by then still being imported.
I recall them as being plain, unassuming, and sturdy vehicles, be they the 2105, 2110, or Niva or Cossack (same as Niva, just slightly better upholstery and trim level).
They were also significantly cheaper to buy, and easier to maintain.
A person could have done a lot worse than owning a Lada at the time:
Peugots and Renaults spring to mind as being bad bets, despite being rather speedy vehicles they weren't greatly reliable and getting parts for them was a total bastard of a task.

Kind and Respectful Regards Chevan my friend, Uyraell.